by Gone. on June 7th, 2009

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How would you feel if your government made it law everyone MUST provide a DNA sample to be placed on a national database?

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  • by Phillis - Zacks little sister on June 7th, 2009

    Phillis - Zacks little sister

    I grit my teeth to say it, but I'd be happy to contribute (at least, part of me would be). If it will deter crime or catch those who commit them, then I say Hell Yes!

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  • by Lemonyellow Di Vintage on June 7th, 2009

    Lemonyellow Di Vintage

    Sounds like incentive to move.

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  • by The Chief on June 7th, 2009

    The Chief

    If you're in the military, or have been sometime in the last ten years or so, then you already are in such a database.

    The military started keeping DNA records the last ten years or so in order to have a database for use in positively identifying bodies which cannot otherwise be identified.

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  • by pedal junky on June 7th, 2009

    pedal junky

    they can have all they want when i'm dead.they can't have squat while i breathe.

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  • by Ed the Jetpacking Headbanger on June 7th, 2009

    Ed the Jetpacking Headbanger

    I would think we are one step closer to '1984'.

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  • by Dodgy Dog in a Sable COAT on June 7th, 2009

    Dodgy Dog in a Sable COAT

    I come from a country where everyone was fingerprinted. I don't see it any different. If it will help reduce crime, why not?

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  • by Fiddle Playing Creole Bastard on June 7th, 2009

    Fiddle Playing Creole Bastard

    They can take my DNA from my cold dead fingernails.

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  • by Polar Aurorae on June 24th, 2009

    Polar Aurorae

    I'd pack up my crap and gtfo.

    Some people say that it will be a good thing - it will help solve crimes! Yay!

    Unless the government falls into the wrong hands and they end up prohibiting things like...I don't know, dissent. Non-conformity.

    Call me paranoid, but I'm not concerned about what will happen with my DNA if I give it in tomorrow. I'm concerned about what it may be used for in the future.

    "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." - Benjamin Franklin

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  • by Capital J on June 7th, 2009

    Capital J

    id say great. i dont see why people would have a problem with it. what "rights" is it infringing on??

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  • by Bookworm on June 7th, 2009

    Bookworm

    Annoyed, but not surprised.

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  • by phirad -you can call me Mike on June 7th, 2009

    phirad  -you can call me Mike

    I don't plan on doing anything wrong, so go ahead and have it.

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  • by Brian on June 7th, 2009

    Brian

    I wouldn't mind, as long as they made the collection process totally convenient for me.

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  • by Thinker on June 24th, 2009

    Thinker

    No! that is in violation of my 1st ammendment guarentee to right of privacy. To be required to supply a DNA sample would be playing right into the hands of those who want to control the world. Fight that with all you have as an American against the illegal central government in Washington DC! Unless of course you would like to live under a totalitarian type government. Fight for your freedom Not tearany!

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  • by Anonymous on June 24th, 2009

    Anonymous

    If I trusted the government and the law I'd be okay with it. Being that I don't, I wouldn't do it unless I absolutely had to. Look...you gotta have SOME privacy. It's bad enough there's cameras everywhere, they monitor your phone conversations, your internet activity, your television activity, anyone can see your house from the internet, etc.

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  • by DudeLer 2 on June 24th, 2009

    DudeLer 2

    I could go for that. Thats a great idea.

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  • Go for it, as long as it's just a sample and not an analysis. I don't mind seeing the information used in a way that pertains to law enforcement, but once genetic discrimination occurs, that's crossing the line.

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  • by Yarnlady is happy every day on June 24th, 2009

    Yarnlady is happy every day

    I'd say it's about time, and be first in line. It would stop identity theft and solve a huge number of crimes.

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  • by Lady Alathia of Vulcan on July 6th, 2009

    Lady Alathia of Vulcan

    I would renounce my citizenship and hightail it to the first less-invasive country that would take me.

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  • by -Icy- on July 6th, 2009

    -Icy-

    there are pros to this but i don't think anyone should be forced unless convicted of a prior crime. i still think criminals lose some rights.

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  • by Dr_Dredd on July 6th, 2009

    Dr_Dredd

    They can have my DNA sample when they take it from my cold, dead cheek cells.

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  • by RC loves ice cream on July 5th, 2009

    RC loves ice cream

    I'd send in a DNA sample of my goldfish. Think they'd notice?

    There are so many wrong things about this. First off, even if I trust the current government implicitly, what about the next government? What about in 20 years time?

    Besides, what if that data is "lost" or stolen? Imagine if your full genetic profile ends up in the hands of, say, the insurance companies who determine that you have the genetic markers that indicate an elevated chance of heart disease?

    Apart from that, you're shedding DNA all the time. Can you imagine how easy it would be for someone to collect some DNA from you and plant them at a crime scene at which the real criminals wore rubber gloves and hair nets?

    No thanks.

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  • by Ain-EST on July 5th, 2009

    Ain-EST

    I would start protesting, even taking everyone's fingerprints is wrong imo, it's not worth taking liberties from 100 people to make the life of a single person better.

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  • by resident for good on July 5th, 2009

    resident for good

    A law like that would be contrary to our constitution and what our founding fathers intended. The constitution allows each of us to bear arms and overturn a roage government that violates our original constitution

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  • by Anonymous T. Jackson on June 28th, 2009

    Anonymous T. Jackson

    You are all so naive.
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    If they don't trust me with a rifle, I don't trust them with my DNA.
    Oh wait ... we now have a list of everyone with genetic "defects".
    Oh wait ... we now have a list of everyone with a Cohanim gene. Hope we don't have any more Hitler-types in power.
    Looky here ... these people are likely to have children with inferior intelligence. Better send that list over to the draft board. Oh, and these people with serious hereditary diseases - send them over to the draft board too.

    These people have Type I diabetes. Don't waste any college scholarships on them.

    And these people have severe rheumatoid arthritis. No government jobs for them or their children. Too many days off work. We just don't want to deal with it.

    This DNA looks like they may have a tendency to criminal behavior. Better send that over to the legal system and make sure they get maximum sentences the first time they commit a crime. Let's get them off the street and locked up before they can do any more damage.

    Laugh if you want.

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  • by Molloy_373 on June 28th, 2009

    Molloy_373

    I shiver, because it could happen some day. There are many violations of privacy going on already. Lose your privacy and you can lose your safety, since there is a strong tendency towards distortion and misconstruances.

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  • by LarryH54 on July 6th, 2009

    LarryH54

    I would feel that it's time that the gov't MUST surrender its power back to the People.
    If necessary, at the point of 10,000 guns.

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  • by Twisted Taco on July 6th, 2009

    Twisted Taco

    Better think quick, my friends, for that is coming to a country near you sooner rather than later

    It's already been implemented as a matter of course when people are arrested and they're expanding on the idea so watch out 1984, here we come and if you ain't scared yet, you should be!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/19/us/19DNA.html?th&emc=th#secondParagraph

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  • by IntotheForge on July 5th, 2009

    IntotheForge

    they can't sequence what they can't catch, and they can't catch what's too expensive in terms of time and energy to see!

    All governments become tyrannies, because all governments are eventually nothing but people who are good at taking and keeping power. This would be another example of executive power being used to mutate a government into an empire, but like the old saying goes, this has all happened before and this will all happen again.

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  • by resident for good on July 3rd, 2009

    resident for good

    We've all been witnesses to the corruption in government......this would just make it easier for crooked cops to frame people who never committed a crime....perhaps the homeless or anyobe that has a beef with you.

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  • by bagicide stayed 10 months too long on June 28th, 2009

    bagicide stayed 10 months too long

    That would be a frightening invasion into the privacy of average citizens and waaaaaayyyyy too Big Brotherish. However, I wish they would do that with convicted felons, like they do with fingerprints. It would probably really cut down on the number of cold cases out there, as well as the number of innocent men in jail.

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  • by John McCain on June 28th, 2009

    John McCain

    Pathetic.

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  • by Nancy on June 24th, 2009

    Nancy

    I fell like it's a violation of civil rights and privacy; but I know that if they did it, it would be to weed out the criminals. Since I am not a criminal and dont' plan to become a serial killer any time soon, I wouldn't have a big problem giving one.

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  • by john pennington on June 24th, 2009

    john pennington

    Since i do not plan on killing someone or committing a felony crime, i have no complaints with your question.

    The only people that would complain are the guilty or potential guilty.

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  • by BigDaddyBS on June 24th, 2009

    BigDaddyBS

    Concerned, but compliant.

    Concerned, because it FEELS like a freedom may be being violated.

    We all have left our DNA everywhere we go. It would be a shame if you were brought in because your DNA may be somewhere that a crime happened, but it's there because you had some type of physical contact with someone, shed some hair or skin, and then they passed by the place of the crime (where YOU had never been), and it was left there, WHICH I can see happening.

    By the same token, I think it would be easier to eliminate suspects, if their DNA is NOT around. (now criminals will wear biohazard or "clean-room" suits to keep their DNA from spreading around. Of course, that would make them more identifiable before they attacked, right?) But it may muddy the waters in trying to identify suspects, because so many shed so much DNA everywhere they go, and those can be transferred by others, unknowingly.

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  • by Gene H on December 7th, 2009

    Gene H

    Sooner or later the sheep who make up the population of the US will demand it. The government need not intervene. Americans are all for giving up rights to be safe, which is a shame, because being American is better than just surviving.

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  • by Merriment on December 7th, 2009

    Merriment

    A request like that would make my conspiracy theory bone act up.


    I'd have some serious reservations about the program and they would have to show me the plans for creating the database and more importantly for destroying the initial samples before I'd feel even semi-okay about it.

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  • by good2know on December 7th, 2009

    good2know

    I would think that to be a invasion of privacy

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  • by RustyShackleford on August 17th, 2009

    RustyShackleford

    On its face, it seems like this would make it easier to catch criminals, and rule out innocent people as suspects. The problem, however, is when the criminal justice system starts putting too much weight on any one type of evidence.

    Is DNA evidence useful? Absolutely - it's helped catch people who otherwise would never have been caught, and has exonerated innocent people who have been wrongfully convicted.

    Has it made other types of evidence, such as fingerprints, eyewitness accounts, etc. less useful or less important? Absolutely not.

    But with a nationwide DNA database, I could see detectives getting lazy in their investigations, and treating the presence of DNA at a crime scene as conclusive proof of guilt. The problem is that DNA evidence (especially in the form of hair and dead skin) can end up just about anywhere, without your knowledge. It's also easily contaminated and tampered with.

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  • by 5DRelease on July 10th, 2009

    5DRelease

    They already have most of everyones DNA who is someone in a 1st world country.
    Through the hospital system.
    Thought they didn't?
    Osara

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  • by BritishPatriot on July 9th, 2009

    BritishPatriot

    I would say no, my dna is my property and they have no right to it unless I committed a crime.
    Also this scheme can be misused in so many ways, for example, a corrupt cop can plant my dna at a crime scene when I'm here typing this.
    So I would refuse with everything I got.

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