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by Spixxy on January 18th, 2004

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Why does Judaism not acknowledge Jesus Christ the same way that Christianity does?

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  • by TShilo12 on April 28th, 2004

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    OutThere's answer is slightly inaccurate, in that the statement is made that the Jewish objection to Jesus:

    centers around one criterion: the Messiah will bring
    peace to Israel and defeat its enemies. Anyone who
    didn't or doesn't accomplish this must not be the
    Messiah.

    I would modify this by saying that, from a knowledge of Hebrew, and with the text of the original prophecies in hand, there is no way that Jesus fulfilled ANY of the prophecies concerning the Messiah, including his lineage, if the Christian scriptures are to be believed.

    Without intending to step too painfully on anyones' toes, I'll just point you to the Jews for Judaism site, where this is discussed in much greater detail: http://www.jewsforjudaism.org/

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    • If Jesus' lineage was in question the Jews of that time could easily prove he was not the Messiah, but they could not.

      Anonymous

      by Anonymous on July 22nd, 2005

    • Truthful, solid answer, but one I disagree with (still 100%): http://www.teachinghearts.org/dre03propchristnotes.html

      Joshua Zambrano

      by Joshua Zambrano on February 17th, 2006

    • Anonymous's response --

      "If Jesus' lineage was in question the Jews of that time could easily prove he was not the Messiah, but they could not." --

      is anachronistic, and just a little bit silly. Jesus never claimed to be Messiah, nor did he ever claim to be descended from King David through Solomon. These claims were made (inconsistently, I might add) by the Gospels, and later by Paul (who never even met Jesus) -- decades after Jesus died. There _was_, however, according to a number of sources, including a restatement by Celsus (a Greek opponent of Christianity, who was not particularly fond of Jews either), a widespread understanding among Jews at the time of Jesus, much of the record of which was destroyed by Christians over the millennia, as "blasphemy", that Joseph, Mary's husband, was not Jesus's father, that he was, instead, a Roman soldier named Panthera (possibly Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera, whose tomb was unearthed in Germany in 1859).

      TShilo12

      by TShilo12 on May 11th, 2008

    • It should also be noted that it was not until the destruction of the Jewish "church" in Jerusalem, by the Romans, that the nonsensical ideas of what became Christianity were accepted by any but a small handful of quasi-pagans: that Jesus was God, that you didn't have to become Jewish to be a genuine follower of Jesus's teachings, etc. Even the notion of the resurrection and salvation through the blood of Jesus played no part in the beliefs of the early church. This stuff was all brought in later by pagans and gnostics, many of them, such as Augustine (a Manichaean), forced converts, or religious opportunists (such as Origen).

      TShilo12

      by TShilo12 on May 11th, 2008

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