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by Anonymous on July 14th, 2008
Why do Creationists not realize that the Bible does not teach that the
creative periods were NOT 24 hour days?
by TrueSeeker on August 15th, 2011
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I was just wondering, if there is no oxygen in space, why does the sun keep burning?
by sntrada on May 25th, 2011
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In this Universe, the Only Way One can Be "Saved", is By Understanding the Universe?
by mdGreg on October 30th, 2011
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Has time travel already happened?
by Gormanghast. on June 24th, 2011
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Is it reasonable to believe that the universe and intelligent life
came about from chance events, from mindless chance?
by TrueSeeker on July 19th, 2011
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You're reading Many Christians argue that since one cannot disprove god and the bible then one should believe in them. By that reasoning - do those Christians also believe in The Celestial Teapot and the Flying Spaghetti Monster? If not, can you disprove either one?
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"but in the end we don't know ... and the only answer we will get is when we are dead." What makes you think that we will get answers when we are dead? We don't know that, either.
by AntigoneRising on July 14th, 2008
I'm only asking because that argument is used so often. Usually with quite a lot of anger.
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As for proof/disproof... If you are talking in some deep metaphysical way then I suppose you are right. But in the practical, analytical way we can and do all the time. The computer you're using isn't a product of pure unproven guesswork, nor are the medicines most of us take, the cars we drive etc.
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Science is supposed to have gaps. It's the process of seeking answers - to put it another way, it's the exploration of the unknown. There HAVE to be gaps - entire swaths of unknown for science to work. Religions claim to provide answers. The questions is, does one trust the side that developed the airplanes we fly in or the side that says a person was born to a literal virgin and he eventually died but after 3 days decided to go hang with his old buds?
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Answers after we die? Why should that be? :-)
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I can't see any Dawkins quotes in my question. Mind pointing it (them) out pls?
by 23Skidoo on July 14th, 2008
plus 5
by 23Skidoo on July 14th, 2008
Antigone: Sure we do, if we are dead and nothing happens, then what difference does it make? If we die and we go to hell or heaven or whatever else, then we would know lol.
by Anonymous on July 14th, 2008
Good point, 12skiddo. The teapot is Bertrand Russell, the FSM is Bobby Henderson, and the claim that you should believe in any deity and/or the Bible because one cannot disprove them (actually, we can disprove many parts of the Bible, but I digress) are Christian. I don't see a Dawkins quote anywhere.
by AntigoneRising on July 14th, 2008
"Sure we do, if we are dead and nothing happens, then what difference does it make? If we die and we go to hell or heaven or whatever else, then we would know lol." If we are dead and nothing happens, we won't know anything at all. This is different than finally knowing anything. If there is no conciousness or sense of self after death, you will never know. What if you are simply reincarnated by perpetual natural processes, and there is no explanation of them? There are a lot of possibilities.
by AntigoneRising on July 14th, 2008
Sure - after death possibilities are, quite literally endless. I just think it's kind of an amusing assumption to expect any answers.
Do you recall any info from before your birth? :-)
by 23Skidoo on July 14th, 2008
amen.
by angelzz on July 14th, 2008
Ramen... to Pastafarians. :-)
by 23Skidoo on July 14th, 2008
23Skidoo: Its argued with much anger, which is people arguing with their own knowlege, rather then actually stopping and letting God work through them (as some believe)
by Anonymous on July 14th, 2008
Oh and I didn't mean you were quoting just him, it just reminded me of when he mentioned the monster thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CI6c-VCMBI
by Anonymous on July 14th, 2008
Have you heard of the FSM? Look it up. It's an actual movement.
by 23Skidoo on July 14th, 2008
Anon - I don't follow your anger response.
by 23Skidoo on July 14th, 2008
AntigoneRising: Good point with the reincarnation thing, I forgot about that one. Its true there are many possibilities, but whether alive or dead, we can't know exactly how our earth came to be. However, I'm not going to go nuts on this debate, because I'm not the smartest guy in the world. I can't prove to you that Jesus is truely God, and I can't truely prove to you that there was a big bang and the universe came to be. All I have are my own expereinces and what I've seen with my own two eyes, because I'm certanly not going by what others tell me to believe.
by Anonymous on July 14th, 2008
23Skidoo: I just mean that I hate it when Christians argue with people with their own wisdom, rather then actually stopping and seeking wisdom from God. Like they will go out and say people are sinners, without actually reading the bible, and praying before engaging in a battle of witts per se. Proverbs, "Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding."
by Anonymous on July 14th, 2008
If you or anyone find value or strength or beauty in a belief in god then great. Not everyone does. I'm not really debating you in that case.
I actively challenge those who would push their belies on the public. That's all.
by 23Skidoo on July 14th, 2008
And that's your right, and I support you in that 100%. I think people should be challenged in what they believe. If you say you believe in the easter bunny, then you should have a good reason, and not just say... "because?"
by Anonymous on July 14th, 2008
In that case you either are or will become a very wise person.
:-)
by 23Skidoo on July 14th, 2008
Heh, well I try my best.
by Anonymous on July 14th, 2008
I would quote Richard Dawkins, rather than the Bible, because he makes much more sense. There is no absolute proof of anything, except in mathematics, but we sane people go along with the best available evidence. Science has much evidence, while religions ahve none at all.
by MegumiS on February 11th, 2011
Error. Pls ignore.
by 23Skidoo on February 12th, 2011
hahaha! 23Skidoo, you crack me up (your last comment, at least).
@MegumiS, if you're interested in science and Biblical truths, there is a book that I think you would find much interest in. I strongly recommend it and it would perhaps broaden your perspective on science and evidence :D
It's called The Case for a Creator by Lee Strobel
http://www.amazon.com/Case-Creator-Lee-Strobel/dp/tags-on-product/B000ION2HG
Thanks :D
by angelzz on February 19th, 2011