IF Pork is Forbidden in Judaism and Haram in Islam, why did Noah ( Nuh) bother taking pigs on the ark?

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• Islam didn't steal the practices of Judaism, dude. No more than Christianity did or Americans stole English from England. There was a divergence.

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  by NeverWas on April 20th, 2008

• Sorry, Neverwas, but I have more than a bit of expertise in this area. I am an HOnours Graduate of Indonesian and Malayan Studies, which includes studying Islam, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism in depth, because these religions have influenced the Indonesian archipelago. I have also travelled in Indonesia extensively and deal with Indonesians on a daily basis. Islam DID steal its practices from Judaism, because Judaism was around 2500 years before Islam. Several tribes in Arabia at the time of Mohammed had converted to Judaism. (see http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/arabia.html)
  Muhammad, being a trader, had plenty of interaction with the Jews and Christians in the region. Fatima, his first wife, may have originally been Jewish or Christian, and several of the early converts to Islam came out of these communities.
  (And I am not a dude, but a dudette!)

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  by singwell-is off researching a lot on April 20th, 2008

• Wow. All that school and you learned that Judaism came before Islam. I'm very happy for you. Of course there is convergence of practices. All Abrahamic religions trace their roots to the Old Testament, but there is a difference between the cultural diffusion of practice and "stealing"
  
  Of course many practitioners of Islam came from Judiasm and Christianity. Muhammad didn't create an entirely knew belief system, he said that the God of the Christians and the Jews was the one true God, but he added his prophecy to change it. I'm not ignorant to the fact that Islam, Christianity and Judaism are fundamentally related, I just objected to your description of Muslims as thieves.

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  by NeverWas on April 20th, 2008

• I didn't say that Muslims are thieves. I said that Muhammad "stole" his ideas from the Jews. They were around 3000 years before him. If there had been a copyright on ideas, Muhammad would have been sued big time.
  And what is your problem with the statment that Judaism came before Islam? Do you dispute this? A series of historical events happens in one part of the middle East, then thousands of years later, another person in a completely different part of the Middle East claims that they got it wrong- that HIS people were the chosen ones, and that all the prophets and kings of Israel were actually Muslims, not Jews, and you say this can be taken seriously? History is not on the side of Islam, which is why they try to silence it.

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  by singwell-is off researching a lot on April 20th, 2008

• Dudette, I'm not disputing that Judaism came before Islam. I was being sarcastic about your statement of the extent of your education which apparently only culminated in a statement saying essentially, "Judaism came before Islam, therefore, Islam stole Jewish practices"

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  by NeverWas on April 21st, 2008

• Of course its possible Jews did get it wrong. That is the basis of the entire Christian faith that the Jews did not recognize their own savior. On stealing, Christians have ...borrowed the Hebrew bible and the stories of a man going up into a biiig mountain to receive the word of god was not exactly new. Is that stealing? Of course. Its all stealing or borrowing or updating or diffusion. Or maybe God is the end of argument not the way to win one and looks a little different depending on your need or where in the world you're standing or how hungry you are.

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  by Progressive Observer on December 21st, 2008

• Thanks for the input. Welcome to AB

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  by NeverWas on December 21st, 2008

• Dudette you need to choose words more carefully and admit Bias
  Never was is rationally observing and contributing accurately

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  by Anonymous on October 28th, 2011