Where in the Bible does it specifically say that Satan was casted out of heaven, or that he was ever an angel in the first place, or that he is called Lucifer?

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• The context of the scripture you referenced was a word from God to an earthly king. It has traditionally been used to point to Satan, however, it does not specifically say that Lucifer IS Satan. It is merely a theoretical translation.

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  by Metaphiz on December 28th, 2006

• I know the context of the scripture fully in regard to the earthly king you mentioned. However, this verse refers to the fall of Lucifer who became Satan. It makes no reference to the earthly king being cast out of heaven. To me, this is neither just a tradition or merely a theoretical translation. In Ezekiel 28, the prophecy is for the King of Tyre. But, in verses 12-19 the description is not of the King of Tyre it's of Lucifer/Satan. Let's just agree to disagree.

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  by Anonymous too on December 28th, 2006

• It doesn't mention Satan though. I just would like to know where the teaching originated. It certainly didn't originate in the Bible. Someone just enterpreted it that way. I wasn't aware that angels had free will anyway. If that be the case, how could one rebel, much less lead a whole army of angels to do so?

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  by Metaphiz on December 28th, 2006

• Satan, Lucifer, Morning Star, The Hidden One, The Fallen One. All the same, evil has many names. Only in later documents outside the bible were the names seperated into different lords. Beilzibub, Lucifer, ect...

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  by Final_Starman on March 6th, 2007

• There is no scriptual bases for the teaching that Lucifer is another name for Satan.

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  by Metaphiz on March 8th, 2007

• It is widely accepted by Biblical historians that Isaiah 14 concerns the king of Babylon, and Babylon generally, and not Satan at all. It was John Milton who conflated Satan and Lucifer, in Paradise Lost.

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  by LibrarianMax on July 25th, 2007

• Isaiah and Ezekiel were written as separate books with many years in between and were later complied into the bible. Not once in these books is the word satan mentioned. These ideas are the results of the ex-pagan turned christians interpretations and have yet to come to a complete monotheistic understanding of the bible. It is always amazing that people will go and teach their presumptions to others as though it was fact. What kind of ego would do such a thing is beyond me. In stead of using love (as God does to attract people to Him) man uses fear and threats of hell and devils for that is the only power man has to play god. Those that lead others into captivity will them self go into that captivity. Devils and hell are totally subjective and deal completely with the individual psyche but heaven is objective and true.

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  by Thomas_N4857 on November 13th, 2010