Is it true that Jesus was not actually born on December 25th, the day that is commonly celebrated as his birthday?

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  by Tiger on August 30th, 2007

• I don't celebrate Christmas and Easter because of the paganism. I strongly am against mixing demonic ritual in with the worship of God and Jesus. God doesn't like it either, because He said not to do it. Celebrating Christmas and Easter or not biblical mandates, but if you tell some Christians you don't celebrate them they are ready to string you up.

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  by Randoley on April 6th, 2009

• Randoley, I am surprised. I figured you for all my family traditions. Are you the black sheep too? lol The King James actually translates passover as Easter in one instance. http://bible.cc/acts/12-4.htm

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  by Texasescimo on June 6th, 2009

• Randoley, it sounds like you are just ignoring the celebration of Christmas and Eater just to be contrary. Demonic ritual? Really? I grew up Ukrainian Catholic and between the two (Ukrainian and Catholic) there was enough pagan influence to float an aircraft carrier. Heck, just in the Ukrainian Easter eggs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pysanka) you can find enough influence to satisfy any pagan.
  BUT, all these influences have been converted to Christian references. Saying that an Easter egg is part of a demonic ritual demeans, degrades and insults those who follow the traditional Easter week which consists almost entirely of fasting, prayer, church attendance and contemplation of the passion and rising of Christ.

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  by mrbuddhafreak on June 6th, 2009

• God punished the Israelites over and over for bringing pagan ritual into their worship of God. I see Easter and Christmas as being the same thing. The only thing Jesus said to do in remembrance of Him was to practice the last supper, or communion, which ever you wish to call it. I don't begrudge people who celebrate those holidays, but I choose no to.

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  by Randoley on June 7th, 2009

• Actually when you refer to it as demonic ritual, you do degrade it though. Your religious theory and practice is at most a few hundred years old. Paul brought Christianity to the Gentiles and it was no longer only the religion and practice of the OT. Many traditions have been melded into Christianity since then. If a church is built from the oaks of a grove sacred to the Druids, does that make it a pagan church? The practice and purpose of the traditions is what makes it worthwhile or not, not the origins.

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  by mrbuddhafreak on June 7th, 2009

• Quote, "If a church is built from the oaks of a grove sacred to the Druids, does that make it a pagan church?" Yes it would be if they gave religious significance to the wood and slapped Jesus' name on it to hide the Pagan influences. That is the way I see Christmas and Easter. The origins are what is most important, people celebrate rituals praising Jesus, the living God, but all of those rituals are based on lies. How is that pleasing to God?

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  by Randoley on June 7th, 2009

• We all have personal opinions. Most of my family would agree with nrbudd. I think that there are some scriptures that deal with these situations. I believe that the scrptures show that after the death of Jesus and the Apostles, that an Apostasy would happen where they would turn to myths or false stories. The Apostles did not use cleverly devised myths to help people to come to Christ, in fact they were told to reprove and rebuke false teachings, not to embrace it and rename it. That is kind of like what happenned with the Israelites after they left Egypt. They took a custom of the surrounding nations of the Israelites, making images and then giving it a scriptural name and declaring a festival in God's name. I don't think that it was okay. Please look up the scriptures and see if these things are so, my opinion should not count. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts20:29-30;%202Pet1:16;%202Tim4:3-4;John4:23-24;%201tim4:1-3;&version=47;49;9;16;77; /-/-http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2Cor6:14-17;Mark7:13;1Tim4:7;1Tim1:4;Exo32:5-10;&version=47;49;9;16;77;

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  by Texasescimo on June 7th, 2009

• Look at how the Israelites started sacrificing their children in the fire, they were condemned and the valley of Hinnom was turned into a garbage dump where carcases of dead animals and bodies of criminals not worthy of a burial were thrown. By the time of Jesus it was known as Gehenna and the judgement of Gehenna was used as a symbol of everlasting punishment. They did not just mix in some false stories and scriptural names and make a celebration out of it like they did with Easter with the symbols of fertility such as the egg and rabbit. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer7:30-8:2;1John4:1;1Thes5:21;&version=47;49;9;16;77;

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  by Texasescimo on June 7th, 2009

• It doesn't matter the amount of false stories and practices introduced into the worship of God. All that matters is they are there and taught as truths.

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  by Randoley on June 7th, 2009