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by webgrunt on September 5th, 2006

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In the past thousand years, how many times has a Muslim nation attacked a Christian nation? And what about Christian nations attacking a Muslim nations?

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  • by dougjnn on October 27th, 2006

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    First starting in 1000CE is both idiotic and misleading. Beginning 350 years earlier pagan Arabs most of whom only later became Muslims (contrary to their Muhammad foundation myths), conquored Christian Jerusalem and Palestine, Greek Egypt and north Africa, and then Spain, and began chipping into France.

    In the first Millenium CE the Christian Gallicians and Castillians, who later became "Spaniards" began pushing Muslims out of the northern Spainish penninsula, and briefly much of the Peninsuala, before a counter invasion from Morocco began and retook most of the same penninsula. The upper half to Toledo was only securred by the 1200's and the whole deal in 1492, the same year Los Reyes Catholicos (Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile, whose union created Spain) send the Italian Columbus on a long shot effort to cut out the Muslim/Venetian extorionate middleman profits on Far Asian spices and luxuries, by finding a sea route.

    The Crusades, much reviled by not only Muslims, but also and of much earlier importance to the Western psyche by our own leftist and many Jews, were an attempt, successful for around 200 years, to TAKE BACK formerly long Christian Jerusalem, Palestine and the primarily holy to Christians Levant generally. Before it was Christian it was Roman, and before that (non Muslim) Persian, Syrian or Egyptian. The Muslim Calipate/Empire sized it from Christians and made Jews and Christians Dihimmis, or distincty second class citizens, subject to much higher taxes, unable to give legal testimony, and socially lower class.

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    • Not only is he correct he is also historically accurate.

      In 636 A.D. Battle of The Yarmuk, Syria. Byzantine Christians vs. Islamic Muslim converts from the Arab Peninsula. Syria was lost and the battle was won by the Muslims.

      In 642 A.D. Egyptian indigenous population of pagans and coptic christians were conquered by Islam.

      711 A.D. Spain is invaded by the Muslims

      733 A.D. Muslims had reached France. The famous battle of Poitiers. Where the West was able to stop and push back Islamic expansion into the West, hence stopping Islam for 700 years, until the Ottoman Empire gains strength.

      ByzantineAngel

      by ByzantineAngel on January 8th, 2007

    • Hey... the union between the "Reyes Catolicos" didn't creat Spain... they married but their kingdoms remained sepparate..Their grandson, Carlos II, was the first person who ruled over Castilla and over Aragon. Also remember that the French army from Carlomagno stopped the Muslims in Potiers, and also the French recovered part of northern Spain, concretely Catalonia.

      Kumbaya

      by Kumbaya on January 14th, 2007

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