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  • I have been getting sore throats nad headaches. There is a burning when i smoke them. Severals of my friends have said the same .
  • Yes! They made me so sick I thought I was dying. My throat got sore, I was hoarse, I had headaches, BUT, the worst was the fact that my lungs and chest felt like they were on fire and I could NOT breath. I was sick, to say the least. I have done a lot of reading since I found out about these FSC cigarettes, yet I have found nothing on what we can do, as smokers, to put a stop to this nonesense.
  • It took some getting used to at first, but they don't really affect me in an abnormal way anymore. The thing I hate is the way they burn, and the way the ashes build up, fall off, and burn me. Fire safe my ass.
  • Yeah!.....I'm sick of the beurocracy that started this. That was a slap in the face to us smokers!...Terrable taste...When the light goes out after not even a minute, the relight tastes terrable. What about cigars. Why dont they put the treated outer leaf so it extinguishes! Then see what happens!......Also...let them cut the alcohol content in drinks! HELOooooooo! NAaaa! Let the drunk drivers alone. Let them put that in their pipe and smoke it! ( Punn Intended ),,...Whatever~!!!
  • These new fsc cigarettes make me cough and they are really harsh tasting. we should not let the goverment get so involved wjth our personal lives. was it not enough to ban them in public pkaces? Why do they need to go any further? They have ruined the taste of cigarettes and added fsc without long term study of the effects of smoking more paper than tabacco. Can we start a claas action suit?
  • So does anyone know what we can do to rebel against this crap?????
  • I live in Canada so I don't know what they are. Can you tell me.
  • Yo, they just pass this stupid law here in NJ. I've noticed recently, I've been getting sore gums and have this constant stomach ache, they DO NOT taste the same... I'm 32... been smoking since I was 14. That's 18 years and never have cigarettes bothered me until recently... I'm tired of getting a stomach ache from smoking! Never before!! Forget it... I'm going on vacation next week down the Jersey Shore... going to quit for sure. At least I can be sick for 2 weeks on a beach. Fcuk these shi**y cigarette companies... taking away one of the few things bad things I so liked. What's next... additives to Budweiser? Oye vey... I hope the next president changes things, cause they just cant get any worse. Dabonka1 Out!
  • I have been sick to my stomach....feeling like nothing will go down....Give us back normal ciggs!!!! People have been burning their homes down for years....that's their problem.. I don't know what they added but it stinks!!! May have to quit!!!
  • Yes these cigarettes are making me sick and I can't stand the taste of them. They make my gums hurt and my chest hurt. Does anyone know of a reliable site to order non fsc cigarettes from?
  • Pennsylvania does not have FSC cigarettes and they are the same GOOD cigarette, however starting 1/1/09 they will be required to sell FSC cigarettes. You can thank democrates for that.
  • they are actually trying to stop you from smoking
  • i hate it, i cant keep fucking lighting it anymore its killin me
  • I ufckin hate the fsc cigs. I just realized there doing it to the Djarum Black cloves, thats what i smoke, and it dosent really work. as im typing this my clove is burning away and now they make me gag and think I may vomit. wtf! if its going to make sick it should god dam well ufckin work.
  • IM IN DELAWARE IVE BEEN GETTING HEADACHES SORE THROATS AND STOMACH ACHES SOMETHING THAT IS ABNORMAL FOR ME IM 40 AND DONT REMEBER THE LAS TIME I HAD A HEADACHE TILL I BOUGHT THIS CARTON OF NEWPORTS AND LONG BEHOLD I FIND OUT THAT IM SMOKIN SOME NEW FSC CIGARETTES AND THEN I COME ACROSS THIS SITE AND THIS EXPLAINS IT THEY EVEN TASTE DIFFERENT IM PISSED THAT I HAD NO WARNING THERES NO ADVERTISEMENT AND NO ONE TOLD ME I WAS SMOKING SOMETHING DIFFERENT ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO THAT
  • Yes, I have become Alleric to the new fsc papers.. I went to a Ears nose and throat specialist.. I have sever sore throats and numbing in my mouth. I have tounge ulcers and splitting.. I have spent over $2000.00 dollars at the office.. I am tring to find out where I can by cigarettes that do not have this paper...
  • Well there is an alternative.......If you want to get NON FSC Ciagarettes, you can still get most brands without the Fire Safe Paper in North Carolina from a place called Carolina Cartons. Here is the website: www.carolinacartons.com You should be able to get them NON FSC for about another year and half until Jan. 2010.
  • Well there is an alternative.......If you want to get NON FSC Ciagarettes, you can still get most brands without the Fire Safe Paper in North Carolina from a place called Carolina Cartons. Here is the website: www.carolinacartons.com You should be able to get them NON FSC for about another year and half until Jan. 2010.
  • Well there is an alternative.......If you want to get NON FSC Ciagarettes, you can still get most brands without the Fire Safe Paper in North Carolina from a place called Carolina Cartons. Here is the website: www.carolinacartons.com You should be able to get them NON FSC for about another year and half until Jan. 2010.
  • I thought feeling sick and having a cough for 2 weeks was a reaction to the flu shot but it was the new fsc Marlboro's. I had the same reaction months ago to Winstons when they became fire safe. I hadn't realized Marlboro did it until last night. I sent Winston the cigarettes for testing and, of course, they found nothing wrong with them. Now I've emailed Marlboro to complain but it won't do any good. The law goes into effect in 2009 for all Pa. cigarettes to be fsc. The only solution is to quit or roll your own.
  • When will they start this in oklahoma?? maybe I better stock up now......
  • THEY ARE NOW IN MINNESOTA TOO!!!! My mom kept telling me about the new FSC cigarettes and she was constantly complaining about them. I thought how could they really be that bad? Well just today my store finally stocked the FSC brand and I got my first taste. IT IS HORRIBLE!!! They leave a foul taste in your mouth and are very harsh. They taste extremely stale and I am not happy at all with the new version. I tested their theory that they will burn out on their own and they will if you are holding it in your hand and sometimes in the ashtray but if it falls on the floor it still burns down to the filter which will still set your home ablaze if it were to happen. I have read many complaints online today of migraines, phlegm, throwing up, etc, etc, etc, so I am trying to find an online site that sells normal cigarettes. Or maybe them becoming so disgusting and expensive will be just what I need to finally quit. !!! My mom also told me that this was going to be a country wide effect Dec 1st, but from what I have read online is that on 21 states have passed the new law so you may be lucky if one of you neighboring states still sells normal cigarettes and the drive isn't too far.
  • Everyone who gets sick from the cigarettes needs to email the cigarette manufacturer. I did but I'm just one person complaining. If they get many emails saying the cigarettes are defective and maybe fear a class action lawsuit they may lobby the government to repeal the fsc law. I also told my family doctor about them. As a non-smoker he's out of the loop and never heard of them. I told him he's going to get people coming in with symptoms mentioned here and he should ask if the patient smokes then look at their cigarette pack for the fsc symbol. Medical documentation of the effects of these cigarettes is good to have too.
  • Symbee I have been sick for the past 4 weeks and I couldn't explain why. I have been having sinus infections, fatigue, coughing and a hoarsness in my throat. I have been through 2 rounds of antibiotic treatments and still I don't feel better. Now after just finding out about FSC cigarettes this sure explains a lot. I'm sure that the cigarette companies won't miss me since I have made it my goal to quit rather than feel this way all the time. I am ready for this difficult battle and I will win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
  • http://www.carolinacartons.com/selfcigs_008.htm Click above to see the list of states that have them and will have them soon...... You can alo still get most brands NON FSC at the same place..... :)
  • HEY guys i know how you all feel i have never felt so sick in all my life i have been smoking for a long long time and i have never had any problems until now , It started with my chest feeling as if it was being crushed then my lungs felt as if they were on fire ,I got the feeling i wanted to throw up and lost my appetite, felt faint all the time my heart was pounding non stop i had really bad headaches and man i was so tired all the time i knew something was really wrong but i didn't know what i honestly thought i was going to die i also started to get sharp pains in my head and pains shooting up my left arm so I'm thinking this is it my time is up i have to say i have never felt so scared in all my life i never ever thought about the fsc cigs , Until my hubby came home from work he works at a cigar store he told me that a lady came in and asked if he had any of the old brands of cigs left NOT THE FSC ONES she had told him what was happening to her and how sick she was feeling since smoking the new cigs she said she had been reading up on the internet about them , I couldn't believe it when i stated to read that everyone is getting so sick smoking these cigs It's now been three weeks and i am still feeling sick luckily enough my hubby has still got some of the old brands of cigs left in store and brought them home for me although i have cut down i think i will have to quit theres NO WAY i'm smoking the fsc brand ... I wonder if they are going to change the papers for rolling your own cigs ? for all you people that are sick from smoking the new fsc cigs i wish you all to get well soon THERE IS SOMETHING IN THESE CIGARETTS AND THEY AIN'T TELLING US
  • HELLO , YES ,I HAVE BEEN GETTING HEADACHES FROM THESE NEW FSC CIGS SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN OUT . I AM IN PA AND WHEN I GET MY CIGS FROM VIRGINIA ,WHICH ARE NOT FSC CIGS ...I AM FINE...JOHN FROM PA
  • Yes, They Suck big time. The taste is bad and makes my lungs feel heavy and hurt. I believe the purpose behind these is not being fire safe but social engineering. We all know the Govt wants everyone to not smoke and this is their way to force all the "bad" smokers to quit. They don't care if it hurts everyone who smokes. The final goal is 100% smoke free society. Back when Clinton was in office, it became law that you could not smoke in any federal building. (I know, I work for the Feds). Now they are stepping up the war. Do I smoke?... yes. Do I like spending $5 a pack?... no. But I'm hooked. I like a cup of coffee and a smoke. I like a beer and a smoke. That's life... I understand where they are coming from but I also know that personal liberties are being taken away from all Americans. We are no longer the home of the free but the home of the legislated. We should appologise to the USSR for our efforts to bring down communism because our elected government is becoming the exact same thing our forefathers fought against. Freedom is leaving our grand experiment and is being replaced by a big brother mentality. Our country is becoming a collection of people who think the government will take care of us and we work for them. This is the opposite of what Washington and Jefferson believed. In the end, We are all slaves to the state. Dont get me wrong, I love this country but I am concerned about the direction it is taking. This is just one more example of social emgineering and controlling the masses. I have another suggestion for the State... How about spill proof milk? That way no one will need to clean up after their kid spills a cup...thus no one will slip on it and file for OWCP or waste paper towels... and We can save the rain forest!!! Who cares the kids can't drink it, it tastes bad, has no nutrition and it kills them, at least the Rain Forest is saved, our GDP is higher and health care costs are down.. . in the end we are all told we are better off, thanks to BIG BROTHER... Legislation is a double edged sword. It can apply freedom or take it away. I believe this is an example of social engineering and taking away freedom. Personal Choice is is being taken away. Do what you can and call your senator or representative and express your views. No one should be able to take away your freedom!!! Z-Mann
  • Yes, people all over america are getting sick from these chemically treated cigarettes.These cigarettes are being forced into the market without the state governments properly notifying the smoking public.A grassroots repeal petition has been started at WWW.the petitionsite.com/1/repeal-fire-safe-cigarette-laws.
  • Since the President Elect smokes maybe he'll get sick from fsc cigarettes and make them repeal the law. As for me, I quit smoking 6 days ago.
  • I HATE these "new" cigarettes and they are actually more of a fire hazard because of the ridiculous way they burn, as I'm sure we've all experienced. Welcome to America were you have no rights, no freedom of speech and no warning or communication when something is changed that effects you. I can't even find out how they have changed these smokes and what they have used to make the change. Be scared people -be very scared- this country is going straight to hell and "we the people" will have very little to say about it as it's dropping into the pit of fire we are headed for.
  • they just started these cigs a week or so ago. couldnt figuare out why they tasted so strange and made my mouth and throat burn. no news or any program warned us or told us this was going to happen, i heard about it from a teen boy! whats in this stuff?
  • I'm vehemently ill from them. I've smoked for 9 years and I feel like the government has killed my best friend. It just isn't fair. Cough. Chest pain. Headache and nauseousness. Somebody has to change this... This HAS to stop!
  • Yes,I am and so is everyone.I'm starting a class action suit.Go to http:\www.topclassactions.com tell them you want to join the class action lawsuit for "FSC cigarettes"started by robert koch of minnesota
  • Get non-fsc cigs online from North Carolina....... http://www.carolinacartons.com
  • Email the Obama people and voice your complaints. I'm not saying it will do any good but it's time to stop silently putting up with the anti-smoking policies. The website is: http://change.gov/ Maybe someone will take notice if a lot of emails come in especially since they'll be needing that cigarette tax money to bail out the auto industry. They can't have all of us quitting because of fsc's.
  • Most people are in some way or another....Their out to kill all smokers..they have the great aliby now..Oh he died from smoking....what a crock of shit...soon all the states will contain this crap. Ive emailed many discount cigarette sellers asking them if their cigs have the FSC in them and no answer...figures!
  • Our lawyers: http://www.cmht.com/investigation_smokers.php Our petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/repeal-fire-safe-cigarette-laws I've already e-mailed the Obama site. Sign the petition and make yourself heard. I've also e-mailed the lawyer's site.
  • For some reason I've been getting non FSC's for the last week in Minnesota.Can't tell you where cause that might blow it,but oh what a difference.Not sick anymore
  • http://www.fsccigarettes.com/
  • It looks like the new e-cigarette is the answer to the fsc issue. They have a nicotine cartridge and water filter. You inhale and exhale a water vapor not tobacco smoke so it's not a cigarette and can be smoked in any public place. I saw on the news they're for sale at the mall but I checked online and they're all over the internet and even amazon.com
  • . I beleive THEY HAD GOOD INTENTIONS in efforts to save 700-900 lives a yr with these fsc., but this is going to kill millions.. THEY MIGHT AS WELL LINE US UP AND SHOOT US NOW ..i too was feeling sick for aprox 3 weeks and knew something was up with my cigs,after all, i smoked the same cigs (salem lights) for over 25 yrs, MESS WITH UR CIGS YOU KNOW IT. After finding out i was smoking fsc cigs i got on line ,signed the petition site.com and have read a lot of info on this and have come to the conclusion that we all have to quit.THIS WILL KILL YOU FAST..NO CIG IS GOOD FOR YOU.THERE ARE NO BENEFITS FROM SMOKING AND NO CIG IS SAFE .BUT THESE FSC CIGS ARE NOT ONLY A HEALTH RISK ,THEY ARE A FIRE HAZARD .THEY ARE BURNING SMOKERS CLOTHES, CAR INTERIORS AND BODIES LET ALONE MAKING EVERYONE DEATHLY ILL... SADLY HALF OF THE PEOPLE DONT EVEN KNOW IT YET. .. PLEASE GET THE WORD OUT... there is no doubt these cigs are FAR WORSE FOR YOU ..THEY NOT ONLY HAVE CARPET GLUE IN THEM NOW THEY HAVE A CANCER CAUSING CHEMICAL FOUND IN MOTHBALLS ..IF THIS DONT SCARE YOU LOOK UP, HAZARDS IN MOTHBALLS... Im gonna to take this as a BLESSING in disguise and im gonna to do my best to quit.RIGHT NOW I FOUND SOME SALEMS IN CIRCULATION NOT STAMPED YET. BUT as of jan.09 ALL STORE OWNERS HAVING REG CIGS WILL BE FINED IF NOT FSC STAMPED .I WILL NOT SMOKE THEM AGAIN..IM TELLING EVERYONE NOT TO ..I HAVE HAD ALL THESE SYMPTOMS ,SORE THROAT ,HEADACHES,SINUS PROBLENS, SHORT OF BREATHE ,COUGHIN ,CONGESTION, STOMACH PAINS, NAUSEA, EXTREME DIZZINESS.NOT TO MENTION A CALL TO 911. I THOUGHT I WAS HAVING A STROKE....... FOR THEM TO PUT THIS CRAP IN OUR CIGS WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE AND MAKE US SO SICK IS ABSURD..IT WASNT EVEN PROPERLY TESTED. WHERE IS THE NEWS ALERTS ,YOU HEARD ABOUT THE DAMN TV BOX GOING TO CHANGE FOR OVER A YEAR NOW AND THATS SOMETHING PEOPLE JUST LOOK AT.THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE INGESTING AND SMOKING FOR GODS SAKE(BESIDES WHO HAS RABBIT EARS ON THEIR TVS.ANYMORE. LET ME JUST SAY THIS IS AMERICA.. FREEDOM OF CHOICE. I WILL NOT SMOKE THESE NASTY CIG. AGAIN ,ILL QUIT COLD TURKEY FIRST,, ALL SMOKERS RIGHTS HAVE NOW BEEN VIOLATED.WHAT LITTLE JOY I FOUND IN SMOKING IS GONE.IF IT WASNT BAD ENOUGH TO BE THROWN OUT IN THE COLD ,WITH NO PATCH ,NO PILL, NO NOTHING.ITS JUST AS ADDICTIVE AS HERION. HELL YOU WOULD PROB BE BETTER OFF ON HERION,CRACK, COKE, WEED,OR PILLS,THEN THEY INVITE YOU INTO THE METHODONE CLINIC AND GIVE YOU OTHER DRUGS AND THE INSURANCE CO PAYS FOR IT ALL..I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND ILL GO AS FAR AS TO MARCH IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.. I WILL ALSO BE SEEKING SOME LEGAL ADVICE IN THIS MATTER...WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING NOW......THINK ABOUT THE OLDER PEOPLE THAT SMOKE AND THE KIDS TO YOUNG TO KNOW ANY BETTER WHAT WILL THESE TOXINS DO TO THEM..SURELY WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS NEEDS TO ADMIT THEY HAVE MADE A SERIOUS MISTAKE AND STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND Be ACCOUNTABLE....
  • I'm so frustrated with this. I noticed months ago that NJ cigarettes were extinguishing themselves and tasted different, as well as the slight change in appearance of the paper (there were bands at two different spots, which immediately freaked me out because I had never seen that before. I dont like to admit it, but when I was in high school, we used to use the paper to roll joints, and while that was a long time ago, I was positive those 'bands' werent there before. I didnt smoke THAT much pot to where I couldn't SEE straight, lol). Anyway, I had actually moved into Bristol, PA and only purchased cigarettes in Jersey when I absolutely had to due to the price difference and I decided that the cigs being sold in Jersey were being altered intentionally for some reason and I just wasnt willing to spend 2 extra dollars a pack for that kind of crap. For the last year, I've refused to buy the Jersey cigarettes and only crossed the bridge after stopping at a WaWa to 'stock up' for my trips. A month ago, here in PA, it took me exactly 1.5 cigarettes of a new pack to realize the bait and switch had occured in my PA cigarettes, and I was angry. I went back to the store and spoke with the manager, and (silly naive me) I believed her when she told me she was not aware any changes had been made. She offered to replace the cigarettes I had purchased the night before with new ones from an as-yet-unopened carton and I let it go. And whaddayaknow? Same shit, different pack. So I dug up an empty box from my trashcan (aka the floor of the passenger seat, lol) and compared it with the new ones. Right away, it was obvious: the new packs had 'FSC' above the bar code. I knew immediately what it meant and I went online to confirm my suspicions. I think I could have lived with the change had I known about it ahead of time. What I CANNOT and WILL NOT live with is the fact this occured without any notice or warning. Because of the total lack of respect society has for smokers, nobody figured it would be worth it to even inform us that they were changing the big bad chemicals we were ingesting because, hey...we're killing ourselves willingly already, right?. This kind of malarkey would be simply unnacceptable if it were, say...baby food. Or even friggin lawn fertilizer, for Pete's sake. I don't need ANYONE to tell me my habit is addictive and destructive; I am not a moron. In fact, smokers in this day and age are ridiculously OVERINFORMED about whats in cigarettes and what the health risks are, and there's also the liberal bleeding-heart tree huggers who are constantly throwing it in our faces that we're hurting the people around us and we're terribly selfish. I get it, Sparky, so settle down, yeah? Sheesh. People in the beginning were told by the companies (and, even if only by omission, the government) that cigarettes were not addictive and they were, in fact, harmless. They said it was all just over-hyped and they continued to produce and sell them, reaping huge profits all the while. THAT would have been a great time to 'sneak' in legislation the way it has been done in this era. Doing it now, without even TELLING us about it is the same as lying about it then! The difference is now the lie is all that much more costly to tell and we are paying the price under duress. I dont understand how THEY dont understand that! When did I lose my right to smoke? They will tell me I haven't. And they'll be right. So fine...when did I lose the right to make informed decisions?! Even with all the things I have to say, this IS a good thing, which is why I'm conflicted. This is forcing me and my peers to cut down or even quit, and I believe that is a positive outcome. What I will not sign on for, however, is deception. You know who we do that to? Children. We sneak their meds into applesauce; we tell them thats Santa who's leaving them toys under the tree; we don't allow them to party all night even though its fun and we force them to do their homework even though they hate it. We do these things because they are our children, we love them, and we are responsible for them. But I am not the government's child and it'll be a cold day in hell when they give even the smallest damn about me at any other time of the year besides April 15th. Just like the parent who keeps the jellybeans away from the diabetic 4-year-old for their own good, the government takes my taxes from me for the same reason. The kid gets to live and I get public works, paved roads, and the occasional police protection. If I don't feel that is an adequate trade, however, I can take my complaint all the way to the border, and scream about it from the other side. And thats about it, so lets call a spade a spade and admit that for me, my redress is nonexistent, just like the sugar-shocked kid: if we don't like it, then tough titty, so sorry. The PARENT has control and will force you to bend to their will. This leaves me to wonder again: what the hell happened to my rights? It dawns on me that I was born in the wrong era. Even as a child, I remember learning about early America and lamenting that I hadn't been a part of such a wonderful evolution of society. Sitting here now at 30, I'm still pissed because I can only ENVY the group of people who tossed a bunch of tea in the harbor and gave the Queen a nice high bird to punctuate it; I can never be a part of that group or any other one like it. In today's America, we no longer have that freedom - that TRUE and INALIENABLE freedom we used to hold so dear - to speak our minds freely and to stand up against our oppressors. What the hell can *I* dump in the harbor, huh? Christ almighty, I can't even wear a funny anti-Bush t-shirt within 50 miles of a political speech or gathering without adding a page to my criminal record. I watched a man get arrested and incarcerated for saying something stupid AS HE WALKED AWAY PEACEFULLY when the police directed him to from a rowdy gathering at a site not far from where a metermaid had issued a ticket to the friggin MAILMAN. They gathered in the street and began to loudly denounce the ridiculous parking laws in defense of the mailman. The "criminal" said the following VERBATIM: "And you guys wonder why people shoot at cops..." Smartest thing to say? Of course not. But it was far from a threat and this dude was manhandled and arrested. That is where we are now in this country: speak your voice and we will squash you. It really is not hard for me to imagine getting chucked straight into Guantanamo for being a part of a demonstration or protest, even if its done peacefully and lawfully, and it makes me positively nauseous. With this FSC issue, they never even gave us a chance. They (quite like a parent) did what they wanted, without explanation, because thats what they think is best for us. They had the power to inform us ahead of time, maybe even help us PLAN to quit! Instead of putting the new cigs on the market with a marketing campaign aimed at showing us how awful these cigs would become thereby encouraging people to seek cessation and giving us TIME to plan and implement our 'stepdown' programs or therapies in some sort of reasonable timeframe, they pulled a quarterback sneak. How effing low can you get? You don't think the majority of us want to quit? Well excuse me, you government geniuses, if it were so damn easy, we WOULD. And I know I speak for probably ALL of us when I say these new cigarettes are horrible and revolting, so much so that we are refusing to buy them and desperately seeking out retailers who still have old stock they can sell us. Because of the sickening effects these new cigarettes are having on people, myself included for the week I couldnt find any of the old ones, people are being forced to quit cold turkey (which is torture) or smoke the new ones (which, I believe and most others agree, is far more harmful to both our health AND our safety). Neither one of these options is a good one. Smoking the new ones is the worst option of them all, in my opinion. I also feel its unlawful; it has to be! Again, I don't see them pulling this crap with baby food, and last I checked, in this country all men are created equal and dammit that includes babies AND smokers. It is no more acceptable to lie to me about what I ingest than it is to lie about what your baby ingests. Imagine the uproar! The steps of the Capitol would be swarming with angry mothers demanding justice. Probably beheadings, too. And you can be damn sure none of them will be sharing a cell with a guy named Mohammed al-Kamikaze for it when its all over. What this all amounts to is that we are having our civil rights violated and we are all victims of some serious crimes. The way I see it, it is downright intentional consumer fraud on the part of both the tobacco companies AND the government, and I'm beginning to wonder if they are not guilty of reckless endangerment, as well as physical assault, and to be quite frank (and if you never hear from me again, it will be because they have locked me up at Gitmo for saying this) I feel its very possibly attempted murder. Have you seen the flaming crap that flies off these things? Huge flaming chunks of FIRE SAFE PAPER landing in our laps, on our furniture, and on our floors. The irony is stupefying. Anyone with eyes can see the danger, and so therefore one can only deduce they are not only aware of the problem, they are TRYING to kill us through arson. Its not like we havent seen that before....or have we forgotten about the biological warfare we commenced against the Native Indians? Hello, McFly. FSC cigarettes are the modern-day equivalent of smallpox-infected blankets and rations. They say history repeats itself. I say if we were willing to kill off an entire indigenous people whose only crime amounted to the defense of their own land in the face of intruders and pirates, we are certainly not above knocking off another round of people because they aren't cookie-cutter images of ourselves. Anyone not frightened by the continuous erosion of our rights and liberties should be checked for a pulse. I would love to stand up on a podium somewhere and tell anyone listening that today its my cigarettes and my problem, but that is Today. Tomorrow, it could be something they care about. What would they do then? Today its just me, but they damn sure better be smart enough to realize its only a matter a time before they take away something THEY loved. Sushi, porn, air conditioners, ATVs, video games, cosmetic surgery...something. One day, they WILL gun for them; its just a matter of time. All I know is that when they look to us for support they will find none. We will smile and say "Hey Jackass, how do YOU like it?" I can't wait to discuss this with an attorney, because I think there is a real case here They are f*cking with the wrong people. Americans may have become apathetic, but we're still pretty damn scrappy when we need to be. After reading all this, I have decided I will fight. Hard. I would love to bring suits against anyone and everyone for trying to harm us (possibly even KILL us), for usurping our rights, and for wiping their dirty asses with the Constitution. Crimes are being committed upon us and we need to fight back. What true American can deny the thrill of freedom and defense of same? What red-blooded American would stand for a conspiracy such as this, where innocent people are suffering, having been betrayed by the very system we have long fought to uphold and perfect? While they collect tax revenues on cigarettes, they pray we won't realize what they've done because as long as we keep buying them like sheep, they get to profit from us. Fraud and treason, plain and simple, as well as theft by deception, aggravated assault, and my new personal favorite: taxation without representation. Yeah I said it. And I'm beginning to see that MY time has finally come. I CAN be a patriot and fight! Its high time we threw some tea in the harbor, my friends. High effing time.
  • It's not cool, I guess Im going to have to start packing my own cigarettes. I found more information on these "FSC" here: http://www.fsccigarettes.com/
  • Well i'm not getting sick,but they are messy.The ashes fall off every where and they are hot enough to burn the skin. So i dont see how they are safe. And i can't find any cigarettes that are not fsc. I guess it's time to quit,with help of course!
  • We are still trying to expand grass-roots support. Go to "thepetionsite.com" and type in "FSC" or repeal-the fire-safe-cigarette-laws We need to get the word out.Ex smokers like Lautenberg in New Jersey have imposed a product which is known to be the cause of ACUTE physical harm as opposed to what they are saying is inherent CHRONIC effects of cigarette smoking.They imposed these cigarettes on the smoking public without a proper review by a government agency.And if a government agency approved these cigarettes I(we) should be able to access the study which said that these cigarettes have been tested to be as safe as regular(non-fsc) cigarettes and that they impose NO GREATER RISK as the cigarettes that they are replacing. I can understand if someone opposes smoking.The "so-called" effects have been proven to the governments standards even though the analysts which proved "the second hand smoke theory" recanted their theory saying that they were forced into their decision. Why is it that we cannot advertise cigarettes on television and yet the majority of sporting events are sponsored by someone pushing alchohol? teenagers get pregnant-not because they are smoking women get raped-not because they are smoking people speed-not because they are smoking fights break out-not because of smoking people decide to commit gun crimes-not because of smoking These are only a few examples of how we live in a world of hypocrites.We deamonise smoking so that we can tax it at an orbitant rate and yet we teach our yungsters that drinking is O.K. If you want to dispute me then take your home "Neilson". On any given Sunday poll how many referenceces you have to smoking and how many to alchohol. Unfortunately, Many many many decisions over the years which effected the manufacturing,pension,retirement ,and medical benefits of our blue collar workers have been decided by upper management which had "half a load on" A show of hands- how many of you making less than $ 70,000 have been helped by the 1,000,000,000,000 bail-out? Take Care
  • I emailed John Stossel since this seemed like the kind of issue he would be interested in investigating but I haven't heard anything. We need to email journalists and reporters, there must be someone with enough nerve to investigate this. As for me, I quit smoking a month ago tomorrow. I wish I could sue the tobacco industry and government for putting me through a month of withdrawal and mental stress as I had to quit without really wanting to. If there were regular cigarettes I would smoke them.
  • SEVERE HEADACHES, CHEST PAIN & COUGH. I THINK ITS GREAT BECAUSE I WAS PLANNING TO QUIT FOR NEW YEARS BUT I DON'T THINK I NEED ANY HELP WITH THE PATCH OR ANY PILLS. THEY JUST DON'T TASTE LIKE THEY USED TO . I THINK WE SHOULD THANK PHILLIP MORRIS AND EVERY CIGARETTE PRODUCER SOON THEY WILL BE OUT OF BUSINESS
  • I DONT KNOW FOR SURE WHERE TO REBEL OTHER THAN SIGN THE PETITION ONLINE AT CARE2 PETITION SITE,BUT LET ME KNOW IF YOU FIND SOMETHING ELES OUT..(LIKE RALLYING IN WASHINGTON).IM SO PISSED THAT IM READY TO GO AFTER THE HOLIDAYS.. DID YOU KNOW OUR NEW PRESIDENT ELECT SMOKES.I CANT FEEL THAT WE ARE GONNA NEED HIM AROUND AND IF HE SMOKES THESE POISONOUS CIGS,HES NOT GONNA BE HERE..NONE OF US ARE. THIS B.S. HAS CONSUMED MY ENTIRE LIFE THE LAST 4 WEEKS,(FIRST I WAS SICK AND FELT LIKE CRAP FOR WEEKS,GETTING BEHIND ON THE HOLIDAYS AND IHEN AFTER I FOUND OUT THAT EVERYONE ELES WAS GETTING SICK FROM FSC. .I WENT OUT AND FOUND SOME OLD CIGS IN CIRRCULATION NOT STAMPED, AND MOST SYMPTOMS ARE FADING(.CANT HELP BUT WONDER WHAT THE LONG TERM EFFECTS MIGHT BE).STILL NOT BACK TO NORMAL....BUT I WONT SMOKE FSC. AGAIN.IM GONNA TRY AND QUIT IN JAN...GOD GIYE ME STRENGHTH I AM ADDICTED...
  • Told ya, The Gov. is out to cut back the population. I say we hold some of the bastards at bay and make them smoke 3-4 packs of these damn things straight, just like our parents made us do when we got caught smoking. There isnt a non FSC to be found around here and i cant purchase cigs on carolinacartons because my bastard government in Pa will tax us for it. Isnt that the crack of the cows ass being stuffed. Not only they change shit with out us knowing but also contradict what we buy online. I'll tell ya this i see crime rate doubling, economy goin in downward spriral, people not spending much...Not a smart decission to fuck with the cigs especaily when it has alot to do with economy. If 45% quit, tobacco companies would be forced to sell these aluminum shit tasting things for half price cause no ones buying them and i hope no one does, well it would be another jobless rate going to hell, Can ya see the domino effect here?....I know we the consumer can, but the fat ass government cant they already got there cuts......
  • I tried the camel crushes which used to be my fav tasted awful went out too fast and made me feel sick. NOW IM SMOKING CIGARS AND TRIBAL CIGS. LIKE SENYCAS AND CHEYENNES...
  • Overheard in the store today: "When I run out of these, I'm DOUBLING my daily habit and then suing the pants off of anyone connected to this law when I get deathly sick. I've smoked two packs a day in the past and I know what the symptoms Ive developed from that are. I'm writing everything down now, like a scientific trial, and when I begin developing abnormal results, I'm dragging everyone into court and my family will be filthy rich. It may be too late for me cuz Ive been smoking 20 years, but dammit I can still help others not be killed through lies and obfuscation!" I gotta hand it to the guy - thats some serious vigilantism! What cajones...
  • Go to www.thepetitionsite.com and type in repeal-the-fire-safe-cigarette-law and sign the petition.Also get the word out to other smokers to sign the petition.
  • They just got those ciggs. down here in Texas. At first I thought it was a good idea until I started to get sick. I feel like I have bronchitis or pnumonia. My head hurts all the time and my muscles ache. What the hell did they put in these things? I work at a gas station so I can still dig through the old ciggs. and buy a pack without that 'FSC' on the barcode. But when they run out, what do I do then? Crumble under the government's idea to slowly kill us all? This is like genocide. Thanks alot uncle sam and you too obama! We should make them smoke them so they know how we feel and what us smokers are going through!!!
  • Had me break out in HIVES!!!! Had to get an eppy Pin Thoat was closeing! I get cigs from carolinacartonscom NO FSC Cigs available on line!!!!!
  • Well as far as I am concerned, I have smoked for 25 years, and have not lit one up in the past week. I refuse to give any more money to something that tastes like crap, and it is nolonger pleasurable for me to continue smoking. I am wearing a patch, and keeping busy to keep my mind off the missing cig in my hand. I can only hope after researching what it is they have done to us, more of us will unite and quit. I think it's the only way to truly take a stand and stick it to them, as they have done to us. I quit on principle, NOT BECAUSE I WANTED TO....but hey, atleast I will be healthier for it....Thanks Goverment for once again sticking your nose where it had no business being. Good luck to everyone out there trying to quit, and to those that are not there yet mentally, don't let the goverment get you sicker with there back door tricks. I am so tired of the average person not being able to "do anything" to stop all the craziness that the gaverment is putting us through. I swear they start something in one corner to distract us from what they are doing to us in the other corner. Does that make sense??? I just DO NOT trust them, never really have. I am a grown person capable of making my own choices, I would like to be able to make such choices though with all the needed information on hand. They always have a way of twisting there convaluted "truth" and making most Americans believe they are "helping us"...I am looking out for myself and my family thank you, no need to have your noses in my business. I gave birth to my kids, I will make informed decisions as to whether or not they should have the daily recomened toxins via vaccines the govt. says they should have....Okay that is a whole different topic. LOL Final statement is that we (smokers) over the past 10-15 years have been made to be the minority, we are made out to be ignorant, dirty, bad people. How easy they have made it for the FSC paper to be used, and have noone other then the smokers give a crap about the fact that yet again they have manipulated the American people....GM food anyone, Planes whose trails NEVER disipate????? What the hell is going on that people are unable to do anything about all this craziness...Thanks for letting me vent to anyone reading.....It's about all we can do I suppose.
  • moemoe, good luck not smoking. I've been smoke free since November 20, it does get easier so hang in there. I didn't want to quit either but since my cigarettes don't exist anymore I didn't have a choice.
  • I HAVE HAD THE FLU & DOUBLE EAR ACHE FOR A WEEK NOW OR SO I THOUGHT . I JUST LEARNED OF THESE FSC SMOKES & REALIZED I BOUGHT THEM IN OKLAHOMA @ WIND STAR CASINO I RAN DOWN TO THE LOCAL CORNER STORE & CHECKED & WE DON'T HAVE THEM HERE IN FORT WORTH TX YET SO I BOUGHT A CARTON & AND MY FLU SYMPTOMS HAVE DISAPPEARED . WE PAY ALLOT IN TAXES & NOW THEY WANNA DO THIS !!! ONCE THE SMOKING HAS STOPPED WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO TAX US FOR THEN ? WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO STAND UP AS WE THE PEOPLE HOW THIS NATION BECAME A NATION WHAT OUR FORE FATHERS,FATHERS,BROTHERS& CHILDREN FIGHT FOR !!! FREEDOM FOR ALL !!!
  • Apartment building's are hazardous & easily prone to fire & kill allot of people when do the put fire bump's in the wall's of them ?
  • Apartment building's are hazardous & easily prone to fire & kill allot of people when do the put fire bump's in the wall's of them ?
  • ALCOHOL IS DANGEROUS WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO PUT ALUMINUM IN IT OR HOT COFFEE ?
  • I live in Austin Texas. These "safe" cigarettes were snuck in about 3 weeks ago. I first noticed they tasted like glue, they constantly go out and the cherry falls off. Then I started noticing headaches, sore throats and chest pain. I thought they had been tampered with and I thought I was being poisoned. I threw away the rest of the carton and bought more from 2 other stores with the same problems. I just found out last night that this is our Governments doing. It's pretty funny that they say we should not notice a difference, so then why did we all notice without ever being told? I definately noticed and I don't appreciate it. If I want to "poison" myself that's my problem but the Government does not have the right to make me sick when I'm not doing anything illegal!! So if smokers are now legally being poisoned don't they think the fumes are going to affect non-smokers too? I'm tempted to let the cherry burn my house down the next time it falls off so we can prove these are more of a fire hazzard than normal ones. I guarantee no smokers were in on this. Come on Texas, it's finally time to succeed from the US before they kill us!!
  • This is more TERRORISTIC & COMMUNISTIC THAN STALIN OR HITLER !
  • I am not sure how much good this email will do, but below is the body of the letter I just sent to Phillip Morris....what if everyone sent there own letter??? Can this possibly make a difference. I have not smoked for 6 days now, I have saved LOTS of money, and I feel SO much better....But I am still pissed that I was forced to give it up because they were sneaky about what they did to us.... Letter to PM: Hello, I have been smoking Phillip Morris brand cigarettes for quite some time now. I have recently quit due to the fact that the brand of cigarette I smoked was getting me physically ill every time I lit one up? I have since come to realize that there are MANY people in the same situation. Can you shed any information on what has been done to the cigarettes being produced that would make so many people have such harmful and sudden health issues? I cannot imagine it would be at all beneficial to the tobacco industry to put yet another additive into the cigarettes without the consumers knowledge. I would also have to think that if in fact as many people are choosing to stop smoking because of the effects of these new cigarettes, it would impact the tobacco companies financially. If you are able to provide me any information, it would be most appreciated. If you would like to verify the effects these cigarettes are having on your consumers please visit the site listed below. Thank you for your time. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/repeal-fire-safe-cigarette-laws
  • When Winston's went FSC last summer I emailed RJR and they (with a straight face) told me to send them the open pack of fsc cigarettes I had bought. They sent me a mailing envelope and I sent them my pack of cigarettes. Within a month or so I got a form letter stating they tested the fsc cigarettes and there was nothing wrong with them. I didn't expect any other conclusion on their part since they're the one's who poisoned them in the first place. I also emailed Marlboro last month, they didn't even have the courtesy of letting me know they received my complaint. I think we all need to go to the ER en masse with symptoms related to the fsc cigarettes. If hospitals and insurance companies are subjected to the effects of fsc then maybe we'd get noticed. We need a national fsc symptom day.
  • YEAH THEY FUCKIN SUCK, HOW IS IT FIRE SAFETY IF THE FUCKIN CHERRY FALLS OFF AND IT BURNS YOUR FUCKIN LEG? THIS SHITS CORNY, HOW CAN WE GET OUR NORMAL SMOKES BACK???
  • both my husband & I smoke. The new FSC cigs just came about at the end of 2008. I noticed by the end of the day smoking just a pack I have a bad sore throat. My husband smokes more than I do and he's noticed headaches and stuffy nose. We thought it was flu symptoms at first, but we ordered cigs thru the mail that didn't have the FSC in them and we were fine. Then we used the FSC ones and the illnesses began again!
  • The FSC Cigs are different they make me cough and whizz a lot and burn my throat. I think theirs an unsafe chemical in them, far worse than what has always been in them. Just a way to get us outta (DEAD) sooner.
  • FSC (Fire Standard Compliant) Cigarettes were made "law" in Oklahoma effective January 1, 2009. I was not aware (due to lack of media coverage?) that this new law was even going into effect, much less that a Fire Safe Cigarette???? was even being produced. I purchased a carton of Pall Mall Light 100's on December 30, 2008 and noticed that the very first cigarette I lit kept going out, as did the second, third, etc. I finally made a comment to my 18 year old son about it and he proceeded to tell me about the new law and that FSC would be printed above the UPC code of these new cigarettes. There was NO FSC stamped above the UPC code, so I didn't think I was smoking the FSC's. I continued to smoke packs of cigarettes from the carton, but noticed that something was definitely WRONG with the cigarettes. Especially when I would try to relight one! Very unpredictable. Sometimes the end would flare up in a big flame, or would crackle and shoot sparks in all directions, or just turn into a ball of fire and fall in my lap! I noticed that they tasted different and I had to draw longer, harder, and practically non-stop to keep them from going out! After I had smoked the second pack I started feeling like I was coming down with strep throat. By the time I had smoked 8 packs out of the carton I KNEW FOR SURE that something wasn't right. It was so painful just to swallow anything, even liquids. I had no fever and no other symptoms that I was coming down with the flu or anything else. After the 8th pack is when I started putting 2 and 2 together, and googled FSC Cigarettes to get more information. I have been appalled at what I've been reading! I IMMEDIATELY stopped smoking the FSC's, started rolling my own, and within 12 hours my throat felt better. By the next day, I could swallow without feeling any pain. I have great concerns about this product after just EIGHT packs. I want to know WHAT is in these things and WHO they tested them on! So far, the only "test" information I can find are the tests conducted to determine the cigarettes RIP . . . Reduced Ignition Propensity. To HELL with the health and safety of "responsible" people who smoke. As long as our government can provide a "tool" to the IRRESPONSIBLE who are the REAL culprit behind cigarette related house fires. Yep, let's give them a tool to "enable" them to remain IRRESPONSIBLE. What are we teaching our children? That they don't have to be accountable? That they don't have to be responsible for their actions? It just keeps getting worse and WORSE! Can we tell a difference between the old cigarettes and the new FSC's? YES WE CAN! Can we do something about it? YES WE CAN! Can we see the stats for fire related deaths caused by smoldering cigarettes reduced? Hmmm, in view of the unpredictable nature of these things when they ARE burning, I'm not convinced yet that we can answer "yes we can" to that one. Can we see the stats rise in other areas? YES WE CAN! Here's one I'm sure that very few people have thought of yet. . . A smoker who is not yet familiar with the unpredictable nature of these FSC's (or maybe is) is smoking while driving down the highway. The cigarette goes out, driver attempts to relight, and gets a fire ball that drops off into his lap and startles him enough that he is totally distracted from driving because he's too busy trying to keep from catching his hair on fire or keep from burning his car seat, or carpeting. Driver crosses over the center line and hits another car head on! This could be worse than text messaging while driving! And don't think for a minute that it CAN'T happen! If irresponsible PEOPLE can cause cigarette related house fires, what makes anyone think that FSC related TRAFFIC FATALITIES can't happen? So, there's a WHOLE NEW STATISTIC for you! I don't have any stats on how many people drink, drive, AND smoke. As if a drunk driver trying to get from point "A" to point "B" without killing someone isn't bad enough. Now it's the "law" that this person who chooses to drink, drive, AND smoke must smoke these unpredictable cigarettes. Yes Sir, let's give that drunk ONE MORE CHALLENGE so that he won't be able to keep his vehicle between the lines! Oh well, you can be sure that our government will find a solution. . . They'll make it "law" that we can't even smoke in our own cars. What will be next? Our own homes? Naw . . . the government "plan" will work out. All smokers will either have kicked the habit or be DEAD! If you think that this is the first time that the government has conducted "experiments" on an unsuspecting class of people, then you better read "The Medusa File" and THINK AGAIN! WAKE UP AMERICA! The very fabric of our freedoms is gradually being torn into shreds with each one that is taken away from us. And the saddest part of all, what most people can't even see, is that one of the most basic and valuable freedoms of all is being taken away from us. The freedom to "think" for ourselves . . .
  • Great post Keebler. You hit upon the answer, if you want to smoke roll your own. People can also buy electronic cigarettes that can be smoked anywhere since they don't have tobacco, just a nicotine cartridge. Anyone deciding not to quit should consider those two options since no one knows the health effects of inhaling fsc chemicals. I quit but I miss my old cigarettes and whether or not I ever smoke again I still intend to fight for the repeal of fsc cigarettes.
  • You will not believe what I found out about these FSC cigarettes. They contain LATEX in the paper. Please read below. No wonder so many people are getting sick. My husband and I are both smokers and I was mad that I just found out there is Latex in the paper. My husband started getting really sick from this "new" product and we were having a hard time figuring out why. I am not sure how many of you are aware of just how latex processes in your system, it doesn't. It builds up until you reach you "level" of intolerance and then every exposure after that will continue to make you sicker. It can even cause respiratory distress, anyway any smoker out there who reads this really needs to learn about latex and the long term effects it will have on you. Shame on the government for not telling us what is in them!!!!! They are going to kill someone who is a smoker, allergic to Latex and does not know that the paper contains Latex! I am no doctor but if you experience any of the following with the FSC cigarettes please stop smoking them immediately and I advise you to talk to your doctor! You could be having a Latex reaction to the cigarettes! Burning of the lips, tongue, throat, stomach pain, redness of the face and/or ears or any other "allergy" symptoms. Title: Self-extinguishing cigarettes Document Type and Number: United States Patent 4303084 Abstract: This invention concerns the use of a class of coatings that are applied to the paper wrapper that encloses the cigarette's smoking medium, for limiting in a predictable manner the free burning time of the treated cigarette, or controlling the lapsed time prior to self-extinguishment after being lit and left unattended. The coating materials are generally identified as polymeric chlorine-containing film-forming latexes that cure at ambient temperature, forming flexible, water-resistant, flame-retardant deposits. Comparable results are obtained, for equivalent weight percentages of the deposited latex solids, by either pre-coating the portion of paper wrapper that encloses the charge of tobacco or smoking medium or by post-treatment of the external surface of the assembled cigarette. For cigarettes having paper wrappers coated to contain 19±6 weight percent latex solids of this invention, based on the weight of the treated paper that encloses the smoking medium, after being lit and left unattended a self-extinguishing time of from 1 to 3 minutes can be expected, meeting a practicable compromise for the smoker between safety and smoking convenience.
  • Yes, lots of people are getting sick and here's why. ABSTRACT: This report examines New York’s initial experience implementing fire safety standards for cigarettes. This study provided the first assessment of the ability of manufacturers to produce cigarettes that reduce ignition propensity, while maintaining price and consumer acceptability. The study also measures a number known toxic compound s commonly found in cigarettes to determine if there are substantial differences in their levels compared to Mssachussetts cigarettes. The study compares laboratory testing of RIP and the level of nineteen known toxic compounds for the same four cigarette brands sold in New York and Massachussetts. The study further examines measures of tax revenue, pricing, and brand availability to assess the effects of fire safety standards on the consumer market. SUGGESTED CITATION: Hillel R. Alpert , Carrie Carpenter, Gregory N. Connolly, Vaughan Rees, and Geoffrey Ferris Wayne, “The Effect of the New York State Cigarette Fire Safety Standard on Ignition Propensity, Smoke Toxicity and the Consumer market” (January 24, 2005). Tobacco Control. Surveys and Program Evaluations from Outside UCSF. Paper Cigarettes2005. http://repositories.cdlib.org/tc/surveys/Cigarettes2005 The above report lists nineteen toxic compounds found in cigarettes. FSC cigarettes compared to non-FSC cigarettes showed an 11.4% increase of Carbon Monoxide and 13.9% increase of the compound Naphthalene. What are the effects of Carbon Monoxide? http://www.carbonmonoxidekills.com/coinformation.htm Concentration of CO in air Naphthalene - CAS Number: 91-20-3 http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/hazard/wastemin/minimize/factshts/napthal.pdf Other increased levels of the FSC Cigarettes are Propionaldehyde 6.3%, Crotonaldehyde 6.3%, Methylethylketone 6.1%, and Fluorene 6.1%, Anthracene 5.6%, Acetaldehyde 5.8%, Acetone 5.4%, Phenanthrene 4.7%, Fluoranthene 4.3%, Butyraldehyde 4.1%, MS TPM 3.8%, Tar 3%, Benzanthracene 3.1%, Pyrene 2.6%, Chrysene 2.7%, Acrolein 2.7% Benzo(e)pyrene 2.6%, Formaldehyde 2.3%, Benzo(a)pyrene 1.4%, and Indeno[1,2,3-cd]pyrene 1.1%. According to these test results, nicotene level was decreased by -1.8%
  • Like others have said before. The only place we can still get NON FSC cigs out there is online. Get all the regular brands such as Marlboro, Winston, Parliament, Virginia Slims, Newport, Salem and more. Best place people have been talking bout is: http://www.carolinacartons.com You get the cigs in about 5 or 6 days and they are NON FSC!!!!! Hurray!!!!
  • I live in Texas and noticed in late December in Central Texas I was getting what I thought were bad Marlboro 100's that seemed to go out all the time and tasted funny. Then back home in S. Texas I got some that were ok, then in early January I finally found out about the FSC thing. My wife and I have both been getting sick and we were not sure from what. I was taken to the emergency room on Jan 09, with blood pressure 246 over 160 and I have been dealing with some strange feelings every since that day. I have numbness, nasuea, congestion, and a number of other things. I am not sure what is going on and we have talked about the only thing we are doing different is smoking FSC cigs. My wife has had a bitter drainage for weeks now as well and has been taking antibiotics to no avail. IMO something is wrong with these things.
  • Buy online and get NON FSC CIGARETTES!!! http://www.cartons4free.com/
  • Does anyone have experience with clove cigarettes because I want trying to buy some packs from this site www.clovecigarettesstore.com and anyone have buying from this guy?
  • The FSC cigs have destroyed the enjoyment of having a smoke once in a while for me. I could tell from the first time I was unknowingly smoking the FSC "latex" burning smoke. It really made me wonder just who was responsible and why did the gov't do this without letting smokers know what new chemicals we would be smoking to meeet up with their socialist agenda. As is recent I am digusted with our government on many levels. Now I will only smoke a cigar once in a while. Less sales for tobacco companies, less regressive tax income to the feds and state, and less choice for me. Thanks Uncle Sam. What new decisions will you be making for me today? Or what new chemicals will you be poisioning me with today without me knowing?
  • I have always enjoyed smoking for 34 years. I worked i the tobacco fields from 7 to 17 years of age. I knew nothing about the FSC. I bought 4 packs of cigarettes thinking that I bought a stale pack. Well anyway I got sick..with every drag of a cigarette it felt like razor blades in my throat. When I laid down at night I thought I was going into cardiac arrest. I was sick to my stomach and nothing tasted good. I got up the next morning and have not smoked a cigarette in 5 days. It was way too scary for me and I smoked a pack a day for 34 years sometimes more. If quitting was the intentions of the cigarette maker then they have succeeded. I guess they do not need my money nor my tax dollars. I was in the doctors office and several women were talking and this subject came up and 2 out of 3 women were experiencing the same affects.
  • Everyone knows that in America the only way you can effectively vote is with your dollars. They will continue to put these chemicals in your cigarettes banking on the fact that you will still buy them because you are hopelessly addicted to nicotine. As long as they are turning a high enough profit they will continue to do so. Your only recourse is to send your money and their tax dollars to the Native Americans making plain tobacco cigarettes, roll your own or if you have the will power quit. Have all your friends do this as well. When profits drop enough they will change them back. Politicians will listen only when it hurts their bottom line. Everyone knows they could care less about your health if it makes them money. Greed and ignorance could cause what is tantamount to a Holocaust unless this happens. These cigarettes are EXTREMELY Dangerous!
  • Yes. Many people. Time to SUE.
  • Things that make you say "hmmmm..." 9 pages of answers in this one, the VAST (and I mean "vast") majority of answers are level 1 blue bag accounts or one black bag level one that is spamming somewhere to get non FSC cigarettes. I would think that if I gave enough of a d*mned I would see that most of these accounts have only been used in THIS question. If this was cleaned out the REAL AB members could be heard amongst the clamour.
  • They suck and I hate them, just rollies for me now.
  • Bob here from CA. Yes I am sick of FSC cigarettes. That is all we can get in CA now. So I now order online from www.nmcsmokeshop.com :)
  • These smokes just hit kansas. I was in oregon a few months ago and my smoke kept going out. My cousin tried to convince me of these new "burn out" smokes. I seriously thought she was high! Came home to kansas still not believing until i bought a 5 pak and was told they were the new fsc smokes. Headaches, nonstop. The taste i noticed immediatly and the funny sensation on my tongue was weird. I honestly thought of goin to my doctor to get checked out until i read this thread. Now i know its the damn smokes! I am not quittin yet...no...I feel more like rebelling. Im 37 years old and feel like a teenageer. My mom says dont smoke, so im gonna smoke. The government hikes up cigarette costs, doesnt let us smoke anywhere but out own home AND now makes us smoke these shit cigarettes. Ut uh, you cant make me quit smoking. That sucks! Thats honestly how i feel. Smokers got a BAD wrap! Just make em illegal already! No, they wont, they generate to much money in this country. I would hate to see what the economy would look like right now, if we did all quit smoking. Scary! Make cigarettes illegal, legalize marijuana, the side effects are much more healthy for the mind, body and soul!
  • This is my second pack of FSC cigarettes. I have a terrible headach, sore thoat, chest pains and issues breathing. I can't do it any more. I have to quite. Its not going to be easy, but I feel like I have a terrible flu. I pay hard earned money for quality cigs and thats what I exspect to get. Not these nasty cigs that I am now getting.
  • This is my second pack of FSC cigarettes. I have a terrible headach, sore thoat, chest pains and issues breathing. I can't do it any more. I have to quite. Its not going to be easy, but I feel like I have a terrible flu. I pay hard earned money for quality cigs and thats what I exspect to get. Not these nasty cigs that I am now getting.
  • I REALLY want to be heard guys! This is absolutely crazy. DO YOUR RESEARCH! The chemical that they are putting in these is known to cause tumors in rats! Of coarse it's unknown what it does to humans because THEY DON'T KNOW!!!! THEY DIDN'T TAKE THE TIME TO DO THE RESEARCH!!!! WTF????? Not to mention there is now a 7% level of carbon monoxide now. The only reason why I know all this is because I had a allergic reaction to this crap. WHY AREN'T THE TOBACCO COMPANIES FIGHTING THIS. HERE IS A SOLUTION: Screw these heartless bastards. The smokers are the only thing that keeps these companies on their feet, ROLL YOUR OWN.... don't let these people get away with it please!!!!! Or better yet do all you can to quit. But don't poison yourself more or support the companies that profit off poisoning you
  • I hate the new FSC cigarettes. I called phillip morris and they assured me it was a couple strips with no chemicals in the strips...They taste horrible..Think I will try rolling my own...or quit. This is a government mandate and this is plain WRONG..Noone was asked..or told about this...Is this still the USA????????
  • I am wondering how long have some of you been feeling ill after stopping the use of the FSC's? I have gotten really sick too, but now cut down to 3 or 4 cigarettes a day after smoking a pack a day for many years. I feel a little better than before but still bad enough. I will quit entirely in the next couple days. Just wanted to know if anyone stopped completely after feeling quite ill, and for how long after did you still feel ill? If you did something else to feel better or speed up the healing process? I hope the best for everyone...
  • i hate them, go out all the time, and yes ive had the headaches and my throat hurts some too!,get the damn chemical out of them ~!!!!!!!! kat mccarthy missouri
  • ive noticed alot of headaches and havin to clear my throat every other time i breath... these *speedbumps* that are bein used to put these cigs out are like a paste thats painted on the paper. This stuff is what is used to make hot glue sticks, pads for sporting goods, just for example, what you would use to brush on a surf board for traction. Its like a rubber type substances, and were inhaling it. This is what i love the most though. Alot of nonsmokers saying, well why dont you quit then.. gosh i cant stand you smokers out in public, you make me sick blah blah blah. Ok then, how about this.. How about you put the down the cheese burger fatass, it makes us sick to see you people scarfing down 500 lbs of grease and wobble around bitching about bein able to smell our smoke.... like its going to put you in the hospital cause its going to take your breath away... No whats going to take your breath away is the fact that you have clogged your arteries up with all the fast food you can put your hands on. The world would be so much of a better place if ppl would piss off and only worry about themselves, instead of just picking around trying to find a reason to bitch about someone else. No wonder every other country wants to blow us off the map... its like a million children running around bullying each other
  • Yes, I have been smoking for 60+years, In June I bought cigarettes in Neb, and experienced my first problems I was unaware that these were even on the market withing the first pack, I started coughing got a sor throat, couldnt keep them light. We travelled to another state bought cigarettes and the problem went away, didnt think much about it. Upon returning to Neb, bought more of the cigarettes and within a day was coughing sore throat etc. Upon teturning to our home state, we were able to purchase the non fsc cigarettes and our problems dissapeared. We were blaming it on a "bug". within a few weeks the fsc were being sold here and our problems came back. I was still unaware of what was going on. after two trips to the doctor, a round of anti biotics I discovered it was the new fsc's that was causing my problems. Scheduled another visit with my Dr and was poo poohed by him and sent on my way. As of yesterday I committed myself to stop smokeing and hopefully have not caused a lingering problem brought on by mindless governmental meddling and inadequate testing b efore marketing a product. Coughing, hacking, sore throated non smoker in Arkansas.
  • FSC's suck! I don't know what's in em but they are horrible. I get Non Firesafes plain ol Marlboro Reds at http://www.cheap-cigarette-city.com and they're only $25 per carton delivered. Screw FSC, the corrupt tobacco companies and State govt's!
  • I GOT REALLY ILL FROM THE FSC CIGARETTES AND IM GLAD I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO QUIT SMOKING CHANTIX HELPED ME IMMEDIATLY AND I SMOKED FOR 30 YEARS I HAVENT HAD A CIGARETTE SINCE MEMORIAL DAY ALMOST 4 MOS AGO AND I FEEL LIKE A MILLION BUCKS AND MY LUNGS ARE THANKING ME FOR IT I HOPE ONE DAY THE REST OF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO QUIT. I THINK IM GOING TO GO ON VACA WITH THE $5.85 A DAY IM SAVING FROM NOT SMOKING.
  • Oh my gosh I thought I'd gotten the flu. I have been sick since Friday and just learned about these last night on the local news. I have smoked for almost twenty years and never, ever felt like this after smoking a cigarette. This is just disgusting - one more way for the government to try to control our lives. I vote for growing our own tobacco and rolling them ourselves. At least we know what we get. The government needs to step away from my "house" and worry about theirs. Check this out: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4303084.html
  • Yes I am and so are most of my friends. I travel quite frequently and buy cigarettes in lower cost locations for all of my friends. I noticed last time coming from Louisiana that my cigarettes were different. That night I coughed a heck of a lot more and woke up with a ball in my throat. I thought it was just winter coming. When I got home, my friends all came back with the same stories. There is something wrong with the R.I.P. cigarettes and the tobacco companies know it but again aren't telling anyone.
  • You gotta hear this noise! Been smoking FSC tobacco about 5 months and to me these so-called cigarettes seem to not taste as if they have nicotine anymore? I smoke for that nicotine buzz and taste, FSC tobacco has nothing I crave anymore so I buy roll your own bag tobacco to get my fix of what made me addicted to start with. I noticed that FSC TYPE SMOKES caused me to smoke 2 times more packs which has made so many problems to my health,I have smoked tobacco for fifteen years never had as many symptoms as now. Sinus infections, coughing so much my back and head in pain. One night at work I lost my hearing from sinus I guess whatever it is this strange tasting drainage building up from FSC TOBACCO. WAKE UP AMERICA ITS REGULATED CONTROLLED GENOCIDE!! (FSC) FIFTY STATES COALITION!!!
  • i get real bad headaches everytime i smoke one and they last for days i hate them
  • I have had a bad cold, so I thought. It turning out to be these friggin FCS cigarettes. My chest is so congested that I have had to get a inhaler to try to get this crap broken up. Yes I have the headache shit too.. 6 days now. This shit isnt right
  • i am getting sick everytime i smoke them.i puke in my mouth.and i just found out that they started doing this.i started gaging sometime in spring i think all i know that its been a while so when i drink is the only time i can smoke them.i think that its such a stupid idea.BUT ITS THE GOVERMENT AND THEY DO WHAT EVER THEY LIKE.

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