I dont see it..My clock says 11:45

It kinda freaks me out when i see that too. I dont know if it is considered bad luck but it just tends to freak me out because when i look at the clock it's just there. Sounds dumb but that's what i think.

You are just looking at the clock then. It comes around twice a day. It means nothing except that you may be subconsciously aware of that.

Yeah I'm not sure about the bad luck thing either but it does send a chill down my spine when I see it.

I get it, but not for 9:11. I get it for 7:52 am, the time my fiancee died.

you're not alone! i keep seeing 9:11 too and the creepy part its like everyday.. eveytime i pick up my phone to check the time its 9:11 or glance at my computer time it says 9:11.. and yes i do see diffrent times too but not as repitive as this one. its almost 3 years now

I see that time every day, twice per day. ☺ It isn't considered bad luck as far as I can tell. Just because it corresponds to the 9/11 tragedy, doesn't mean it's bad luck. It just means you are reminded of this and are sensitive to it.

You have that time "stuck" in your subconscious, as Tomsims says. So that's why you keep seeing it. The subconscious mind is a very tricky thing.

I always happen to look when it's 11:11. The ONLY connections I think you could possibly be thinking of is 9/11 and or the story/one of the stories when someone got into an accident and it killed the power and the clock got stuck on 9:11 or in most stories 11:11. Other than that, maybe you're crazy? :P

You have been affected by other outside instances (September 11th) that subconsciously triggers something in your brain to link that number and events linked to it back to you... it would be the same if some event that impacted you in some way occured on another date like December 12th for example... everytime you looked at the clock ... if by chance it was 12:12 your subconscious would remember what happend and trigger that kind of unsetted feeling we tend to get when instances like this happen. I get it too, a lot of people do I'm sure. 9/11 and 9:11 are probably one of the most common triggers in present day.

be low has a great responce to this, also it could hold a different meaning. It is a little long but basically, it is called Numerology. 9+1+1= 11 then you go 1+1=2 That would be your Number in life or just to explain: The Life Path 2 suggests that you entered this plane with a spiritual quality in your makeup allowing you to be one of the peacemakers in society. Your strengths come from an ability to listen and absorb. You are a fixer, a mediator, and a very diplomatic type of person using persuasive skills rather than forcefulness to make your way in the world. When you embrace and exhibit the strenghth of your spiritual side, you are intuitive, avant-garde, idealistic, and visionary. These extremes make you interesting with much to offer society. You have the potential to be a deep-thinker, and no doubt interested in understanding many of life's mysteries and more intriguing facets. If you are living with the positive attributes of the number 2 Life Path, you are apt to have the most delicate ability to be balanced and fair. You clearly see the full spectrum of viewpoints in any argument or situation, and because of this, people may seek you out to be a mediator. In this role you are able to settle disputes with the most unbiased flair. There is sincere concern for others; you think the best of people, and want the best for them. You are honest and open in thought, word and deed. You excel in any form of group activity where your expertise in handling and blending people can be used effectively. Manners and tact mark your way with others, and you are not one to dominate a group or situation. You are the master of compromise and of maintaining harmony in your environment. As the ultimate team member, you never demand praise or recognition. In many ways, you are a creature of habit and routine, and you like your path and pattern well worn and familiar. Your ability to analyze and render accurate judgments is a wonderful natural trait you bring to the business world. You strive for complete accuracy and even perfection in your work. Perhaps you are not a leader, but you are a visionary and a very talented idea person. On the negative side of the 2, nervous energy is a trait often observed in the 2. Because of this, you may be seen as an extremist who is sometimes the zealot in expressing likes and dislikes. Nervous tension can bring the normally easygoing 2 into a state of emotional outrage, which to those around you, may seem so out of character. Indeed, the 2 can sometimes become oversensitive. In some instances, the strength of the 2 can also become its weakness. You may find it hard to decide what to do at times. Twos often struggle against indecisiveness. Making decisions and getting your life in gear, so to speak, may be a challenge. There is a tendency for the many 2s to harbor feelings of uneasiness, and dissatisfaction with accomplishments and personal progress in life. The biggest obstacle and difficulty you may face is that of passivity and a state of apathy and lethargy. The negative 2 can be very pessimistic. When this sets in to any degree, you are able to accomplishes very little. If living on the negative side of the 2, you may lack common sense, and you are quite often unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality. Even the more positive individuals with the 2 Life Path will prefer a more amiable and less competitive environment, often shunning the business world. You can best serve society in endeavors utilizing your skills of counseling and guidance. Much of your idealism is people oriented and quite humanitarian in nature. You expect a great deal of yourself.

masonic/evil fucks like 333 (see choronzon)- which adds up to 3square.. then there's Revelation 9:11 which talks about 'abaddon' - which is one of the last entities that 32-33 deg masons learn of... are told that when they die, to talk to them to goto heaven/whatnot. abaddon - is NOT a good entity.

It happens to me as well; although, the numbers are not always in the same sequence. For example, one day I had a late night and I checked the clock before I went to bed and it was 1:19am. While driving that morning I was running late, and oddly enough the time read 9:11am. Later that day I picked up a snack and the total was $1.91. Somedays it gets to the point where I don't even want to look at numbers. At first I thought it was me, but I recently pointed it out to my girlfriend, who has thus verified that I am indeed not crazy.

I keep seeing the numbers 10:19, but my son was born at that time! I also 3:15, 'Anmityville' eeeweweweeewewe! And it seems like I always look at the clock at 12:34. I have never heard of 9:11, being bad luck, before 9/11!

I thought I was the only one who this happened to! I don't buy the subconcious theory, cuz its more than that. I'll get texts at exactly 9:11 or phone calls at 9:11. wake up its 9:11, its weird. someone will ask what time it is i open my phone BAM 9:11, seriously its weird. i think its more then the september 11 attack but like an evil omen like 666 or soemthing.

I think the eleven minutes after nine was the best way for catalogue advertisers to show the dial on a clock.

It's nice to know that I'm not alone. This has been happening to me for the past couple of weeks. It's a little unnerving. To know that others are experiencing this lets me know that it is not some kind of message, but my subconcious just f'ng with me.

I see it all the time too. See what Ellie from Crystal Links says about it, meaning the end of the current cycle of human consciousness and a new beginning. http://www.crystalinks.com/wtcmeta.html

i keep seein this alot 9:11 been goin on 4 bout 3 months now but i fink its the number 11 cos i see 8:11 and 6:11 but 9:11 is most common 4 me

Me too!!!!! It's been going on for at least a good year maybe? And I keep wondering if this is some sort of sign or something. Luckily, I haven't had any bad luck after looking at the time at 9:11pm (i see 9:11 more in the evening than in the morning). I don't know if there is any history behind this either.

I see 9:11 everyday, 2 times a day, either waking up to it, hearing it on the radio, ect. I don't believe this is a coincidence because it started happening to me a few months ago, randomly. And why 9:11, which happens to be a a number seen often by many as well. Thats just my opinion.

I see it too and I am NOT a clock watcher. But, not only do I see it on my clock, but on my bicycle computer (miles ridden, time, etc) and my cell phone, which I rarely use. And for work, my home office is 3 hours behind, so I see it on my company computer, too. This started happening several months ago. Now it's getting real creepy.

hey i see the same thing i dont what it is but every time i look at the clock i see 911 it feaks me out we should talk sometime about it

Are you really that stupid not to know its the date of the twin towers????? you damn well knew what it ment so why bother asking everyone else they are only going to tell you the same thing!

I keep seeing 9:11 on my clock too. I think it had to do with my relationship with God. The weird thing is that I was baptized on 3/9/08 and I received the holy ghost on 3/11/08. But I still see it on the clock. It could be a good thing. However 9:11 means emergency, so who knows. Pray about it. That's what I do.

Its got so bad i had to post i see it like 5-6 times a week. You wont believe it but i just saw it a min ago and at the same time i was extracting something from Winrar and i went back to check how long its been running and it said 9.11 Clock and this at the same time is very scary.

It doesn't mean anything. For a few months I kept seeing 11:13 a lot which was strange because my birthday is 11/13. I was just prone to looking at the clock around that time because in the morning I was getting ready to go to class and at night it was going out for my last smoke break before I got out of work

I cannot believe this. I too have been seeing 9:11 all the time on my clock, phone etc. It started a few years ago and has never stopped. No one I know thinks anything of it; I wonder how widespread this is happening? I think it would be most interesting if we could get our heads together and compare notes - see if we all share anything in common? This is definately worth investigating in my opinion.

I keep seeing 11:11, and when I saw this question the clock read 4:44. (don't worry about it)

this is bizzare i came here out of curiosity i've been seeing 9:11 on my clock for about the last 13 years way before the tower 9/11 every day, and on time. i look at the clock more than twice a day but no matter what at 9:11 i see it. i've even set the clocks 5, 10, 15 minutes apart and guaranteed every time 9:11 9:11 9:11. i dont understand it, but it is what it is. whats even more bizzare is the answer by Lady of Trishalia that comment rings sooo close to home its unreal and the fact that i came here today was do to a video i saw about 11:11 numerology. things are getting stranger and stranger and they seem to be happening for a reason (for me at least) everywhere i go, i meet someone or do something that leads me somewhere else where i find new information and become aware of something new that changes some part of of my life or the way i view things. I believe we are all in this world going to see a major change in things to come.

I keep seeing 9:11 on my clock it is uncanny and happens actually more and more frequently, my wife does the same to me, we talk, look at the clock, 9:11! aggh!. I am a scientist and have to consider the brain conditioning itself to being sensitive to this time. However why this time, why not 2:11? Apparently we are at our lowest energy state at 2pm and 2am, so are we at our highest at 8pm and 8am, (not 9:11) so logically this is perhaps a phenomenom. It is odd. Perhaps it is just a social and cultural timing effect, we do our communicative/thoughtful discussions a few hours after we get home from work, say 3 hours after get home at 6, 9:11?. Also 9,1,1 is quite a number, stamped into our subconcsious on a cultural level. Are we programmed to stop and think at 9:11?

I bet you it's Al Qaeda messing with time itself!!! Run!!!!!!

i keep seeing the munbers 9:11 too since about 3 or 4 months ago didnt nothing happen at that time or nothing like that i just keep seeing it if it isnt 9:11 its 6:11 im glad im not alone because i just thought something bad was gone happen to me on september 11, 2008 sound crazy but numbers just to stand out like that for no reason

you are fixated, subconsciously, on that because of september 11th more than likely so when you see that time you remember it. it's like when a stoner sees 4:20 on the clock every time he looks at it. merely coincidence and fixation.

I'M SEEING IT TOO AND IT'S FREAKING ME OUT DAY AND NIGHT. IT HAPPENS A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK. DOES IT HAVE SOME MEANING IN NUMEROLOGY?

Im From Australia, the 9/11 attacks are not as significant to me as what it may be to others in America etc.. However, it has only been within the last 6-12 months that i have been seeing 9:11 on clocks, mostly it has been at night.. I think that as sep 11 is comming up that something significant may happen to me so ive maked it down also the 9 day of the 11 month,(November). It does freak me out and it is a common thing. I have read all posts about it online.. Whatever it means.. Im prepared

wow i didn't know a lot of you guys also see those numbers I see it ALL THE TIME, also for like 3 years now!.... I always wondering if there is a connection between the people who see it. I would like to get to know you guys more. I don't ONLY see it on the clock anymore, its everywhere in my life. My name is Parthiban Munnainathan, I live in Canada, HBSc in Neuroscience and Integrative Biology, will be entering medical school in January. I am 23 years old. You all keep saying you see it, but lets work together and find out why we see it. Lets find out if there is any connection between us. I 100% believe it is not a coincidence in my life anymore. If you guys would like to contact me, we can find out. My email address is thiban_16@hotmail.com. Maybe its fate we meet.

wow i didn't know a lot of you guys also see those numbers I see it ALL THE TIME, also for like 3 years now!.... I always wondering if there is a connection between the people who see it. I would like to get to know you guys more. I don't ONLY see it on the clock anymore, its everywhere in my life. My name is Parthiban Munnainathan, I live in Canada, HBSc in Neuroscience and Integrative Biology, will be entering medical school in January. I am 23 years old. You all keep saying you see it, but lets work together and find out why we see it. Lets find out if there is any connection between us. I 100% believe it is not a coincidence in my life anymore. If you guys would like to contact me, we can find out. My email address is thiban_16@hotmail.com. Maybe its fate we meet.

Good God I am not alone. I have been seeing this for several years now, morning and night as many have said. I think it is also the birthday of an old boyfriend whom I disgracefully let go. But I think I already apologized for that....hmm maybe twice is better to file that reason away.

Wow! I amazing! I see it too, twice a day, every day...

I have been seeing 9:11 on the clock for more than 8 years. I am 24 and I started seeing this before 9 / 11 attacks. I probably see it 4-5 times a week. WEIRD!!

When you've missed the 9 o'clock plane

There was an episode of the Sarah Silverman Show where her wake-up alarm was set for 9:11, to which she woke up happily to. Just another attempt for her to try and be shocking... how boring.

Honestly..it does remind me of 9:11 but is it deeper than that. First it started off with the clocks and now I am seeing it elsewhere. For example, just a few minutes ago someone added me as a friend on facebook...I am their 911 friend..stuff like that happens to me all the time. Or when I look at a clock and it says 9:11..usually the clock is fast or slow by a few minutes. It's not even the right time. And then I'll look at a real clock like my cell phone and it will say 9:11 once again. When the clock says 9:10 or 9:12 I get really relieved..but the number thing just freaks me out..not so much anymore though.

Hi, I don't know if this will help anyone,but I first started seeing 9:11 2 years ago for about 4 months non-stop. I researched this and found that the two numbers together seem to mean that there is something in your life you need to action. Whether it be work or life. For me, it signified a career change, becasue soon after that, I stopped seeing the numbers. Its now 2 years later, and I am about done with my contract at my current position, and guess what? I started seeing the 9:11 since Nov 17, 2008. Time for action again. Maybe you guys should just seriously sit down and reflect for even a few minuets if things are going well in your life, and if you still have focus on your goals, or if you have maybe swayed away from them. Hope this helps.

You, it's very odd that you mention that cause I see it two: twice a day to be exact

your clock must be broken

i keep seeing 911 myself 2 times a day its just started like 3 days ago! im not sure why it kind of freaks me out i keep thinking it means im going to die or something!!

I see it to its very bizar I dont you guys to say that its because of the mind, there something behind all this and we have to find out because I see the time 9:11 alot and I think its a sign but I dont know what... And what Tricha said she is totally right because I have what she say and I can see things that people may not see and I feel (sens) I think very deaply and I can control my energie and ......... But theres alot of things that I didn't find out yet Thanks

Perhaps you see 9:11, as it has a meaning/memory to 9:11 now. In the past 9:11 was just 9:11, until September 11. It sort of is like when you miss someone, or perhaps they break up with you, then you feel like you see their face every where.

I too have this happen to me. In fact I was wondering just how I was going to research it on the internet, and came to this discussion. For those who want to down-grade it definitely do not understand what we are talking about. It's almost like a force turns your head so you see 9:11 on the clock. I mean, when this happens to me sometimes it's not like I'm even interested in finding out what time it is or wanting to look at the clock even. It's some strange phenomenon, and I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing it. It's been like 3 years or so for me as well.

I see it as well ever since Sept 11th

People do this all the time.. it could be at anytime, not even significant time that has a meaning. It has to do with your brain and how it's programmed now to subconsciously look at the clock at that time. You might glance at the time every now and then and it's not a big deal because it's not a significant number to you, but you just happen to notice it because it doesn't mean anything to you. My time that I always happen to glance at is 3:11... that number is significant to me because it's a band that I like and sings one of my favorite songs of all time. It pops up here and there.. the total on a receipt, the change you that is given back, the time, how long a song is. Just lots of things... and because it's a significant number to you, you happen to notice it more than you'd notice another time showing up a lot.. such as 8:23.

omg maikee ii been seen this 911 stuff everywhere too for a few years now i hate it when ii see it ii try to avoid lookin nn everythin but some how ii just do even when is not nine eleven on d clock or watch ii still see somthin with nine eleven and if ii dont see it during the day a person would just randomly pop out and say ITS NINE ELEVEN when im not even asking or in away messages everyywhere is drivin mee nuts thx god im not alone

Hello, I too se the 911. It's been about 4 to 5 years. It's still happens to me pretty much every day, and thats not counting 911 cops or ambulances.People do not understand, they think we haven’t thought that it might be we’re susceptible to the number because it has some meaning to us, or that we have a predictable pattern of behavior. I use to get up at 9:11 am and go to sleep at 9:11 pm or vise versa. I would look up and there it was (almost mocking me) and I didn’t even own a watch. It did not matter if I tried to pick another number and tried to see if it would happened the same as with the 911, it didn’t. I would buy stuff and the change would be 911, the clock, the phone, license plates, it got so bad that I decided to uses them in the lottery and I won 500 buck!!! The number is everywhere and it’s very weird and annoying, my wife did not believe me, she said I was just imagining. But, everyday I would show her when it happed. She asked me not to show her anymore. I’m not religious and have been an atheist for over 15 years I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I cannot understand this particular number show’s its ugly head every day.

My sister and I see the numbers 9 and 11 all the time. Sometime they are out of order. WE see them on clocks, house numbers, license plates, account numbers and so on. We didn't start seeing them until after our grandma died on september 11th 2002. We believe it is her way of communicating with us. We believe that the year 2009 and 2011 will be significant years for us.

My sister and I see the numbers 9 and 11 all the time too. Almost ever day. We see these numbers mostly on clocks but sometimes on account numbers, phone numbers, house numbers and so on. We believe my grandma is trying to show us she is still with us and is watching over us. She died on september 11, 2002. We know that 2009 and 2011 will be good years for us.

I have recently experienced the same 9:11 coincedence, wether by phone, clock, signs, or bumper stickers. Here is my story. I was about to meet someone for the first time, this was an internet meet that was about to turn into a person to person friendship. During the course of a week and a half i started getting 911 numbers... as stated in all above forms. I First related it to emergency and possibly with me, until i noticed that he would send a text at the time of 9:11 or call .. and eventually in that day he would have a certain question for me that really needed a mature answer. I was observant of this phenomenom to see if the 911 messege was for me or for him. The day came that we went out to dinner and talk our heads off.. but as we were walking to the front door, I turned my head and suddenly saw 911 again. This was in red and plain as day. Yes i thought twice and decided to really pay attention to what he had to say in case this was to protect myself from him! The evening was a great talking fest and we had fun, nothing happened.... well since then i continued to have 911 pop up and remind me that its still there. So far its been 2 months... and during this time i also found out that on a 911 day a different friend called me and needed my help.. this was in conversation of ideas.. and then i felt as if this 911 isn't about EMERGENCY... but about HELP.. and how this signifies that you will be needed to help someone... for me its my original person and so far i havent gotten to the bottom of the problem.. however, one day i did tell him.. he's got to stop 911ing me... and for 4 days, I didn't get any 911. That was actually nice. = ) So folks if your not walking under a ladder, getting into fender benders, or actually hurting yourself inside or out.. this probably means to HELP another .. and also ONLY you have the right ablility to HELP correctly... if you want to go into a metaphysic angle.. is it possible that its a Karma and you OWE help to this individual? I don't know... nor think thats it for me... but why not throw it out there... so i have my plate full of 911 however i can answer 411 easily..lol!

It's not a sign of bad luck. You're just more attuned to noticing this number because of 9/11.

omg. i cannot believe someone sees that time 9:ll like i do. i have seen it for over a year. to me i do not believe it is because of what happened on september 11th because i was only 8 yrs old and i didnt know anyone that was hurt or killed during that tragedy. i just see 9:11 the time ALL the time. it sometimes scares me. but i just know it means something. i always feel like someones watching me during that time. i think it may be my desceast grandmother.

omg. i cannot believe someone sees that time 9:ll like i do. i have seen it for over a year. to me i do not believe it is because of what happened on september 11th because i was only 8 yrs old and i didnt know anyone that was hurt or killed during that tragedy. i just see 9:11 the time ALL the time. it sometimes scares me. but i just know it means something. i always feel like someones watching me during that time. i think it may be my desceast grandmother.

911 is the emergency number in the United States of America.

I see it too. I can't explain it, but I started seeing those numbers 2 months before 9/11 happened. That really freaked me out too, yet I keep seeing it, just like many others on here. That is just too weird, and too coincidental. How can a majority of people see the same numbers 95% of the time? I think there is something more to this, we just haven't figured this out yet. What scientific explaination is there for a group of people, not just 1 or 2 or 3, but many people seeing the same two numbers almost all the time? I don't care who you are, there's something to this.

Ya I see that time twice a day. It is considerd bad luck because 9/11 was the day the twin towers were destroyed.

If you are seeing 9:11,1:19, 11:19, just 9's and 1's in general, this means that a phase of your life has come to a complete end, it's got nothing to do with bad luck, it's merely a phase of your life coming to an end. And seeing as how you have been seeing it for 8 years, i'm guessing you have had many phases come to and end. And all of these people saying that it's just in your head are full of shit don't listen to them, it does actually mean something. Here is a Link that explains things, as i'm sure you have seen more than just this number, this site should give you a lot of help. http://spiritual-path.com/numerology.htm

well 9 11 is the day that those people crashed planes into the twin towers

it's the way the yanks say the eleventh of september,was the day they're goverment invented a real threat to them so they scam billions more dollars out of they're population for defence so families like the bush's could keep making ridiculous amounts of money through the CIA

It all has to do with your aura and what is programmed into it. You can manipulate that phenomenon to work for your benefit.

I keep seeing 1:19 (starting about 5 years before 9/11), so ya now that I think about that is kind of wierd.

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I thought I was the only one in this world who was experiencing this. I've mentioned it to one or 2 other people, who dismiss it as, "it's just you." It bothers me. Call me crazy, but it may actually mean we should feel urgent about something. What that something is, I cannot say, but just think about how many others have been seeing this and haven't run up on this thread yet....

That happened to me all the time after September 11 and I just figured it was because of that..

me too i am watching tv and i go to the kitchen and it is 9:11. every day!

About 40 years ago, Porsche introduced the 911 model. It was really fast and expensive. It was so fast and so expensive that quite a few rich people died in horrible crashes. The al queda people, being rich like Osama bin Laden, were well aware of the Porsche 911 bad luck story, so when they planned the twin tower crashes, they used the 911 date to make sure it was really bad.

Wow this is crazy. I keep seeing 911 for about 4 years just 10 min ago I seen it on my oven"The power went off earlyer" and just befor I went in my kitchen I was on ups shipping looking for a package date It was 9,11 so I looked it up on google. I found this I see im not the only one whos seeing this number. I guess theres somethings you cant explain and this is one. Its just funny the chance of seeing 9:11 on the clock is 2 out of 1438 in one day and 680 out of 525,600 In a regular year The odds are vary slim But some of us see the number 911. Thats the crazy part

I found this thread while finally researching the phenomenon, it's been happening to me since about February. If it's still happening to you and you'd like to try and help me figure it out, email me: dave AT brooklawnstudios.com I'm a God-fearing developer, logical and rational.

My clock says the same thing. Hum....

hey...even i c 9:11 or 11:09 or 11:17...always everywhere...on my phone or laptop or number plates...don know if i am rite....my bf is born on 11th sep...and i on 17th sep...i use to c these number all the time..since past 2 to 3 yrs...v recently started havin a lot of problems....coz of distance...he first said he wanted to break up...then said he needs some time...v r talkin still...but he is not sure whether he wants to get back or not...i prayed to god...i told him...not to show me these numbers if we r not to b together....but to my surprise i see them more often now...so i feel...maybe its some kind of sign god tries to give....there have been times...when i had decided for myself that if i don c it today then il surely stop talkin to him...but somehow somewhere i saw it...can someone explain?

Get used to it. It's 9:11 at least twice a day, everyday.

hey...even i c 9:11 or 11:09 or 11:17...always everywhere...on my phone or laptop or number plates...don know if i am rite....my bf is born on 11th sep...and i on 17th sep...i use to c these number all the time..since past 2 to 3 yrs...v recently started havin a lot of problems....coz of distance...he first said he wanted to break up...then said he needs some time...v r talkin still...but he is not sure whether he wants to get back or not...i prayed to god...i told him...not to show me these numbers if we r not to b together....but to my surprise i see them more often now...so i feel...maybe its some kind of sign god tries to give....there have been times...when i had decided for myself that if i don c it today then il surely stop talkin to him...but somehow somewhere i saw it...can someone explain?

What is good and bad luck is made up in our imagination. C'est la vie.

thats the day the terrorists hit the world trade center with planes