Can the police enforce the new Arizona Immigration Law without racial profiling?

Chances are, if you get stopped with a bogus driver's license, your name does not appear in any public-information database, claim an address that is registered to 57 other persons, cannot speak English, your tags are registered to a different vehicle, and you look mestizo, you may be hauled in as a suspect for immigration law violations.

The only way this law can be enforced without racial profiling is if it is applied equally across the board. If every person is asked for proof of citizenship and everyone, regardless of the color of their skin, is pulled over for the exact same offenses.

If that is done, yes, it can be enforced without racial profiling.

However, the popular view of "illegal" is someone who, well, looks like a Mexican. If police pay more attention to people with brown skin (typical "Mexican") than white skin, they are going to be racially profiling.

I would say that, given the nature of humanity, racial profiling is going to occur. Most people do not think of the millions of illegal immigrants who are white.

I am not Hispanic, my ancestry is Romanian Gypsy, but I am glad that I do not live in Arizona because I am from a "brown skinned" ethnicity and have black hair (another "Mexican" trait). I do not need more crap.

Yes. Anytime and everytime, ANYONE has contact with the police--traffic, domestic issues, arrested etc. You will be asked for you ID --- DRIVER'S LICENSE. If you do not have one then it will move to the next step, checking with Immigration. Non citizens living in the USA with permission from the Fed gov. are required by federal law to carry their papers at all times.

Of course not. And that's what the whole whooplah is about. Unless, of course, they made it mandatory for every citizen of the state to carry proof of citizenship on their person at all times. And that, my friend, is another whole can of beans you don't wanna go into.

No.

Yes.They can demand of any identification of any Mexian,or Hispanic.They usually use justifiabe cause.Of course it is racial profiling in one sense since the only people being questioned are Mexicans but that is merely accidental.It is not racial profiling to question anyone who is here that is Mexican since they are the only ones here who are here illegally.

now were sayin racial profiling or how ever you spell it. I think its funny you all should call it that maybe we should check your citizenship status. I am a over the road truck drivin and is stop every time I go thru border patrol and asked if I am a citzen and do I have anyone else in the truck. Funny thing is thats all they ask what a joke no drivers license, ID, or nothing. I dont call it racial profiling when I goto mexico and have a harder time goin across the border then a mexican does. The reason this economy is in problems is illegals come take the jobs dont pay taxes send the money home to mexico. Live 3 or more familys to a house, work off the books and get paid for next to nothing. Plus I dont know too many white people swimmin or goin thru the desert to get here. But I am sure they will be checkin arabs and others just not mexicans isnt that how the terrist came in thru mexico.Best day will be when I see a train full of illegals going back to Mexico.

The simple answer to your question is yes.

It is time to put and end to the propagation of the divisive use of the term "racial profiling".
It is time to educate ourselves, rather than listening to individuals who are purposely and incorrectly misrepresenting and using this term to further their own (usually political) agendas.

Let me ask a simple question "What exactly is racial profiling?" Do you really know where and how this supposed racial profiling came to be and what its purpose was and is?

If you are going to get pissed off about racial profiling then you had also best be pissed off at the medical profession as well for if you want to look at racial profiling they are right up their at the top of the list of ones doing so. Oh what did you say? Thats different because they are using it to look at and establish health problems that tend to fall with in certain ethnic groups? They are using it to help people.

This is exactly how your "racial profiling" by police is used as well.

Police write incident reports, doctors write medical reports. These reports are then recorded and categorized as to what the incident,or medical condition, was and yes, ethnic origin is recorded as just one part of the information collected. This information is then compiled, sorted, cataloged, and statistics are derived from the information and registered or posted both locally and nationally. This information is then analyzed to determine what are significant problems existing with in a given category or categories.

So are you going to get pissed off if said data collected indicates X ethnic group has a higher incident of heart attacks or that Y ethnic group appears to have more incidents of hypertension than Z ethnic group?

This is the exact same thing that police do and exactly the same way they use it.

So if you are X,Y, or Z in the medical report groups are you going to cry not true your racially profiling us this is wrong? Or are you going to get serious and start changing your diet and other factors to improve your health in order to reduce the incidents of whatever health issue it is that is affecting you and then by doing so also change the statistics being collected by the medical profession.

If you choose to view the world so cynically who's to say that doctors aren't targeting (racially profiling) X,Y and Z in order to sell them medications based upon their X, Y, or Z medical problems even if they don't need it?

Ethnic origin is just one piece or part of the information that is collected by police to help them to determine problems that exist both locally and nationally. It is no different than what a doctor dose. If the data collected and then analyzed indicated that X ethnic group has a higher incident of theft or that Y ethnic group has a higher incident of drunk driving than Z ethnic group dose it make any more sense to protest this than it dose protesting the medical facts? Of course it doesn't. Then to dose it not also make sense for the groups X,Y,Z to root out the causes and then work together to improve their communities to lower or eradicate the cause for the problem just like you would if it was your own heath issue and by doing so change the reported statistics?

The problem is that this is harder to do, it takes hard work, honesty, integrity, perseverance and patients within and outside of the group(s) to fix the larger social problems that are at the root of the problem that is supposedly just a case of racial profiling. Rather than trying to lay blame on an outside factor for what has passed or what is going on it takes having the honesty to look at the problem and then looking to the future and working together to create and environment that nurtures and provide realistic potential/solutions for all in order to negate the conditions that exist, that are at the root of the problem or problems. To many people just want to jump on the easiest band wagon that tends to deflect rather than expose the real problem(s) because its easy to do so and whether it is justified or not is irrelevant. This is all that the cry about racial profiling dose, it deflects the focus away from the real problems that exist and have been recorded. In this case illegal immigrants from Mexico.

I am not saying that all police are perfect, they are not. They are people and human beings and prone to the same flaws as all of us. However many police go into law enforcement because they feel a deep seated need to help people and to protect the communities they live in. The majority of cops do not go into police work to enable some hidden racist agenda as is implied by the use of the term racial profiling, particularly as this question seems to imply. The next time or if ever you have to give the police a description of someone who has committed a crime against you or that you witnessed against another then please feel free to omit the persons skin color or any other ethnically predominant feature and see how far the police can get towards finding the criminal. No problem right well he was 5'-7" thin, wearing blue jeans, a torn tee-shirt and tennis shoes. Good luck on that one getting solved.

You want the police to protect and serve you but you also want to tie one hand behind each of their backs as well as poking out and eye from each of them. Fine then why don't you just step up to the plate become a cop and serve under the conditions that you seem to think will work.

We provide evidence every day of our lives to prove who we are, this is just a given in our society and we have gotten to this point willingly. Now all of the sudden it is a problem? It is not for me I live in Canada, I am a US citizen, I carry my passport and my work permit with me all of the time. Every two years I reapply and prove to the Canadian government that I am up here legally it just is not that big of a deal to do so. I also pay taxes in both countries.

Racial profiling? How about prejudice against an entire community of individuals as to what they will or will not, are or are not doing, based solely upon their profession.......Sounds a lot like the pot calling the kettle black to me.