Should they bring back corporal punishment in schools?

Should they bring back 'racial' segregation policies on public transport? Should they repeal the law that recognises sexual harassment? Should they relegalise child pornography? Should 'hysteria' become a valid legal and medical term again? How far back do you want to go? Wouldn't you rather just accept the present and all its wonderful advances?

Yes. Ask any teacher that taught school for many years. They had far fewer issues with students when the students knew they would get a few whacks on their rear ends. Now we (the taxpayers) have to fund school district police departments, hoards of behavorial counselors and several vice principals to deal with behavorial problems. Bust their tails from the first grade on and we can stop pouring money into cop's and counselors and spend most, if not all of our tax dollars on educational matters. Stop begging these little tyrants to mind and bust their tails. Tell them to sit down, shut up and to pay attention. If they refuse bust their tails a few more times, let the head coach do it and see how these little tyrants like that. Eventually we would take our schools back. The problem is, we now have a generation of spoiled brats raising their own tyrants and before long, this country will be nothing but a country of lazy, fat, video gamers that can steal music, take drugs and text message better than anyone in the world. Forget about being globally competitive as a nation, we can buy all of our cars, food, appliances and everthing else we need from China or India. Two countries which do whip their children and deal with crime far more effectively than we do. Murder someone in China and see what it get's you. They will cut your head off. I hope no one bombs Pearl Harbor again because this generation of whimps could not fight their way out of a wet paper bag. They would just stand on the pier and cry "that's not fair" the whimps. As the greatest generation of WWII dies off and their children follow them to the great here after, the spoiled darlings of today will finish ruining this country. Maybe if we had whipped their little tails, taught them responsibility, respect and a little about honor, they may have been able to carry on with this great nation. Ok, bring on the crapola about this.... I could care less. My kids are grown. Got their butts whipped when they needed it and are college graduated successful professionals and are stuck managing the twits you whimps raised in what's left of industry in this country.

bring back??? they still have it in the southern united states. i'm actually terrified to teach in the south; not that i'd ever have to do it, but that i would end up in a school where it was condoned. when i was in school (7 yrs out now), our parents had to sign forms and say whether or not it was permitted. my parents said 'NO'.

Not corporal punishment I have problems with someone else hitting my kids, but they need to do something. Make them work if they do something wrong. People are getting lazy in this world I know I am one of them, but something needs done.

yes, I am currently in highschool, and I constanly see kids getting in teacher's faces, yelling and swearing at teachers, and all the teachers can do as make them leave the room; that doesnt teach the student anything, because the kids that do that don't want to be in class anyways. i say corporal punishment is a great thing to have in schools.

if done in a controlled environment,can make great change in childrens behaviour.

If practical then Yes, unless they can find a better way. It's not like they haven't had any time to figure it out. At the very least the disruptive students should be put out of harm's way. I'm sick of seeing classes being run by the class clown.

I think they should institute capital punishment in schools.

no you can not condone any sort of violence towards children

Not with these knuckleheads growing up in this time. I bet if it was to happen some kid will come back trying to shoot the teachers ass off.

Forgive my bluntness, but f*ck no! Hitting someone will not make them a better person. I know from experience.

No...if someone else would hurt my kid...no matter what she did...I think I would kill them...

no. if my boys need disaplining, prove it to me. i'll take care of it.

I went to school to get an education, not the shit beat out of me by some teacher.

i think the schools shpuld be run by teachers. They should have the power of an airline pilot. To do whatever is needed to teach a class. If corporal punishment is deemed necessary by the teacher. Let them go for it!

As a teacher, I am not in favor of corporal punishment (though I feel the need to point out that at least in my state, it is not illegal -- just rarely used). However, I'm not against it because I think it's child abuse -- I don't. I think there are many reasons why it's not the best choice now, though.

First, it puts teachers in a precarious position. In a litigious society, I don't want to give my kids' parents any more reason than they might already have come up with to accuse me of doing something wrong in their child's life. It's asking for trouble.

Second, I think that in order to spank a child, you have to love that child. I know not everybody agrees with spanking, and as I don't have kids, I can't tell you how I'll feel about it when it's my kid. What I can say with some certainty is that teachers are not the right ones to do it.

Finally, I think that, especially as kids get older, we need consequences that more closely model the real world into which they are going to enter, and not the artificial one that education can create. We want the kids to be motivated in the same way they will be in their future, and I think we can safely say that corporal punishment does not mirror life after graduation.

I believe that the world is in a state of chaos because of a system that is not strict enough. We have a youth that have low ( or none ) moral values, talk back to people who know more about life and the world, and believe that the way they live is actually acceptable.

Teachers can't teach and students can't learn because of the other students that can't behave themselves. The only thing what that students must do is to sit down, be quiet and do their work. But because of the current system those students can't be punished and the disrupt the entire class, de motivate teachers to teach and create an awful atmosphere in the class that leads to the teacher quitting his/her job in 2 - 3 years.

Those undisciplined children leave school without the necessary skills to go to collage or university. They can't read, think logically and they can't act as an responsible citizen. So they seek jobs like drug dealing or they make up an excuse and start living on the government's money. They join gangs, start stealing, murdering and raping.

All this chaos is created because the teacher, the principle and the parent could not ( or was to afraid ) to put the child in place ( with a good hiding or smacking ) when he did wrong.

In Nature the cub has to listen to the lion to survive. And it will always obey the adult lion. If the cub would step out of line the adult lion would bite him. This way the cub learns his place in the society and knows what is right and what is wrong.
But in the Human's world today, the cub is biting the lion and the lion can do nothing about it. The weak is biting the strong.

My personal opinion is that there is nothing wrong with corporal punishment. It is something that has been done for hundreds of years. It helps the school and the class to be more organised, fun and productive for the child. And ensures that the child's future is secure and that the child will be a high morale, educated and responsible citizen when he/she leaves school.

YES!! With specified guidelines. Whiney parents and the federal government have taken ALL authority out of the teachers hands.
I have a teaching cert. but after subbing i woulde never teach under present conditions. I feel children will live up the the standard you set for them. As of now and in most public schools the standard is tooooo low.

At this time all power is in the hands of the students you don't give that much power to someone who is sent there to learn. If the students were disiplined, educated and so mature then they should teach.

THEY ARE THERE FOR A REASON! AND THAT REASON IS NOT TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE OTHER STUDENTS CAN'T LEARN.

Yes. When I was at school the belt was in force and if you got it you didn't dare tell your parents when you went home. We knew we were getting punished for doing wrong and accepted the fact. The world isn't full of free thinking, peace loving individuals. There is a pack mentality on the streets and between hooligans and their parents. In nature there is no second chances. Fire does not reason with you to remove your hand from it, it just burns you. If punishment is not the answer then why don't more people stick their hands into naked flames. I live in a very tough neighbourhood where gangs run the streets and most people are afraid to stand up to them. Is this the society that a generation of men and women fought and died for. Anyone who believes that their kids should not be punished when they do wrong should be ashamed of themselves. Wars were fought to banish tyrants and to maintain law and order, fairness and discipline. Not to let kids run about thinking there are no consequences to their actions. A society needs discipline and order. Without it we have anarchy. Teach them young. Wake up before it is too late and you raise a generation of a***holes.

Yes, they should bring it back. The rights table needs to be turned back to those in authority so they can do their job rather than be thwarted by kids who don't care and bring everyone else down. Why are you giving kids so much rights? Aren't the teachers supposed to be teaching? What happens is teachers have no authority and power and kids can mouth off and be profane and do whatever bad thing they want all day long and the the teachers can do nothing but complain to the principal who will then do nothing. If the parents who refuse to discipline their kids ever get told at all, they'll get gold third hand nothingness, and nothing will happen.

Discipline, authority, and power should reside in the one who has the most direct contact with the trouble makers. The more indirect you make it, the more beaurocraticness makes any correction inneffective. Verbal persuasion means nothing without the force to back it up, governments know that.

The youth of today’s society are out of control. They have the “I don’t care, I’ll do what ever I like” attitude and think that there aren’t any consequences for their actions. There is no discipline anymore. The parents nor the police have no authority over the yobs anymore the parents can’t control their kids and send them out onto the streets to get drunk and cause a nuisance to others using the public areas or services. The police are having problems due to the lack of man power and funding so all they can do is hand out ASBO’s which adds to the yob’s so call ‘ard’ reputation or tell them move along which doesn’t stop the problem it just moves it to another area for more people to be intimidated and abused. What’s the point of having a police force that is over stretched with no power?

It is down to lack of discipline that we have a knife culture in certain areas of Britain. In some areas the more sensitive people of society are too afraid to leave their own homes due to fear of the youth abusing them in one way or another.

Corporal punishment will restore order in there society and the classrooms which will help prevent the bully’s from preying on the so called weak just because they have differences and they don’t look anything like one of the size zero models that are out there poisoning the minds of the already easily mislead youth.

Absolutely not.

No...I got if from the nuns at school (early 50's) and then got it again when I got home. One would have been plenty....from the parents. Teachers job should be to send them to the principals office then call the parents.

For some kids YES but not all. some kids you can try EVERYTHING and nothing gets to them and they just sit there and laugh at you in your face, if they got a good hit once in a while it might help out a little. Our parents were aloud to get hit, and I don't know about yours, but mine turned out all right.

As a principal, it is my belief that if a child is behaving badly enough to warrant corporal punishment, they need to go home instead. It is not my place, nor do I want it to be, to spank someone else's child....and by the way....I live in the south. :-)

I don't think so, because not everybody punishes the way a parent would authorize.
When I went to christian school years ago, my teachers were allowed to spank us. There was a special paddle with all of our names ingrained on it. The high schoolers got hit on the knuckles with a long ruler. Another punishment was to stand on the wall bending down, with our arms up in the air.
My mom and dad knew the teachers, and my dad would come to school in a minute and pull me out of class and beat my behind it I acted up. I only got 2 paddles in my whole time of being a that school; stood on the wall about 3 times. There was always one other teacher there to witness the punishment. My dad was one of the music teachers out of 2, and he took his students and other classes to canada. We went to plays we went to tourist areas like Stanley park, Grouse mountian, the zoo and more. The rule was: if you act up once, you sit out for the whole time.
In those days corporal punishment was just fine, these days you just don't know who your dealing with-especially in public schools.
Every kid needs some discipline, and maybe if they had more in the homes and in the schools the kids would have more focus.

a few years ago wheni was in middle school they used this time of punishment. i lived in south florida then, and they still do this type of punishment down there. i think its wrong

No, school is for learning. Certain lessons should be taught at home.

NO !!!!! Because bring back corporal punishment in the public schools
is violating the Constitutional principle mandating
separation of church and state.

No, I think I would beat a bitch ass if she/he touch my kids with any kind of weapon ! STUPID BITCHES AND HOES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, I think I would beat a bitch ass if they touch my kids. STUPID BITCHES AND HOES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't trust the average educator today to know when to beat a dirty rug, let alone a child.

It's a contentious issue, but I believe it could be the only solution to get society back on track. Back in the 80s, when I was at school in the UK, I experienced the transition of corporal punishment to less harsh punishments such as detention. The result was staggering. Respect for teachers, each other and the school environment diminished rapidly. In the year that CP ended, largely due to the then Headmaster retiring, practically the whole school queued up at the headmasters office to say goodbye and thank you - which shows a great deal of respect for that man. The school was a council run comprehensive school. The following year showed a marked increase in school vandalism and shortly after I left part of the school was burned down by a group of its pupils.

Unfortunately humans, by their nature, are ruled by fear and consequence. This principle is gradually being removed from society, and the result will be anarchy. If you go to the top level of control by fear - you have governments with their armies, which are there as a deterrent mainly. Corporal punishment is the same principal at a smaller scale. You can only condition people (including children) to have respect and fear the reprisals of their actions by having in place some sort of fear mechanism.

It seems that presently the teens who cause problems have great respect from their peers. This will only continue to exacerbate an ever increasing problem unless we return to methods of correction that have been in use for centuries.

I do agree, that in a perfect world, reasoning and discussion would lead to behavioural improvements in individuals. However, we don't live in a perfect world and not all humans are rational.

Only if I can whack the parents...

No, because corporal punishment is kinda like...well is exactly like child abuse to me, so teachers shouldn't do it because parents would whined up doing it. They'll get to saying to there kids "I'm just teaching you a lesson," and you it as a reason for abuse so in this case I say N-O NO!!!!!!

No and it should be outlawed in all states. I had the misfortune of having a teacher in the 4th grade who abused her authority to wield the paddle. She was the type of teacher who wasn't very fair once she paddled you for something. After that she was more likely to paddle without trying to sort out the situation. One time a kid was teasing me while we were in line at the water fountain. I was behind him and grabbed him just as she rounded the corner. I got paddled for fighting and when I tried to say anything in my defense she said, "Those are just words, you should just ignore them. I saw YOU fighting." Well, ignoring something is not in a 9 yr old's mindset. It only made me hate and resent that particular teacher to the point I wished death on her constantly. I'm sure she would have hit me with a board even more if she had known that. After that year and due to other experiences throughout school I had a high mistrust of teachers in general. How can you trust someone who may decide to hit you with a board? I was also an outgoing kid and became very shy and withdrawn after fourth grade. I attribute this to being subjected to teachers who misused corporal punishment. I still hate that teacher to this day. She got away with bullying and abusing me along with others just as many were allowed to do back in those days. If I had a do-over for that particular time I'd probably beat the hell out of her the first time she took out the paddle and tried to use it on me. She and any other teacher who strikes a kid with a board are definitely deserving of getting that board planted in their skull.

It doesn't work on everyone. I prefered getting the belt as detention, lines, and other forms of punishment ate into my free time, so they were a much worse punishment to me.

No, just because some kids are brats, doesn't mean it should be forced on everybody in school. Honestly, in school I never acted immature. If the teacher went after me I'd hit back.

Definitely not -- hitting is rather barbaric.

If it's okay for teachers to hit their students, then is it okay for parents to hit their kids, or what about spousal abuse? I don't want to teach students that hitting is okay.

I'd much prefer to teach people about compassion, inner peace, meditation, deep breathing, yoga, etc.

Ah, I feel better already.

I dont believe people should beat children but we took a good fight against a bad thing and turned it into an overblown rights fest for children. now they think they can get away with anything and every other month or week or day one of them shoots somebody. paddling might be out of line but its the bottom and in court thats not child abuse. and smacking a wrist never caused permanent dammage maybe a red wrist but seriously people need to stop whining over small things like that and worry about the thousands of kids out there who are actually abused not just punished.

Yes. During the 80"s when I was in elementary school no student was a starnger to the fiber glass pattle with holes in it. The principal game you a wack or two on the bottom if your behavior was so bad that it warrented it. I grew up during a time when your neighbors spanked you, then you came home and got one from your parents. Society needs to go back to the old school teachings. The parents are afraid of the kids now a days. Kids call CPS cause the parent spanks them.. Really? Parents tell the courts the child is incorrigible.... As a parent you should be ashamed to say you can't control your own child. That's a problem. The law says you can't beat or bruise your child. The law didn't say you couldn't spank your child. I'm a juvenile probation officer I see it all. Discipline your children people......

yes...but under specific guidelines.....nowadays, kids behaviors and disruptions could push a teacher over the edge .....if kids got the discipline AT HOME they needed, we wouldn't have a need for it.......
i had quite a few friends that were teachers and told them constantly I did not see how they do it....I would of lost it....they soon learn who wants to learn and help...but the parents , with the rotten, selfish, home lives, ALWAYS blamed them for their kids bad grades......
corp. punishment would not do much good, ....it starts at home....

no just add pirannahs to the pool and let them run rampant when slippery

Yes.

I don't know about anyone else but a teacher slapped me across the face and that was the last time he used his hand for along time. My father never hit so why should some scum bag hit me and I was not even guilty of what he claimed. Today if a teacher hits a child the consequences could be far worse than what happened with me. Students today think nothing of killing everyone in there path

hell yes kids in my class are disrespectful to the teacher and extremly rude
give em a few lashes and it would straten them out real quick

well I was spanked as a child and I turned out fine. I am in college in the premed program and have a 3.2 gpa. I have family and religious values and I never get in trouble. My brother and I both turned out fine. So it worked for us. Children do need some sort of punishment.

well, yes...wish the parents could be spanked...but the 'truency laws' still don't help much.......

I say Yes. Kids have no respect or discipline. Parents are not doing their jobs. If parents would actually be parents and not ‘friends’, then maybe we will not have kids going on shooting rampages, disrespecting adults or having sex at 14 years of age. Kids are in school to learn and get an education, not play on their cell phones, doing drugs and having sex. If they miss behave in school and disrupting class or failing grades, do not bring the standard of the school down so that they pass. Do not give them 3 red marks and silent lunch. What good does that do? I say, take him/her, and paddle his/her behind. That way the class can continue and kids will actually learn and pay attention. The school will actually have people that finish school and can actually do some real work, so much so that we can keep the jobs in America because we have people that can do the work. Why do you think people from other countries can get jobs in America? They can do the work better than Americans can. Take back the country, one paddle at a time!

They must bring it back, because none of the other softer alternatives, succeed in reducing vandalism/crime.