by tominhouston on May 24th, 2009

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Thomas Jefferson said, "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." Is liberalism breaking the chains?

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  • by bagicide stayed 10 months too long on May 24th, 2009

    bagicide stayed 10 months too long

    Thomas Jefferson was a very astute man. I don't think either party has a lock on protecting or destroying the Constitution. Both have been guilty many times. I think what is really destroying it is a constant drip of irresponsibility by the citizenry.

    Every time someone sues someone in the hope of getting rich, and says it isn't hurting anything because it will only take money from bloated insurance companies, the country and the Constitution take a hit. Every time insurance companies (and these decision are made by people with names and faces, not faceless companies) rob patients, hospitals and doctors to make a huge profit themselves, the country and the constitution take a hit. Every time citizens are selfish and refuse to live up to their duties, the country and the constitution take a hit. Never forget, WE are the country and the constitution. They are only as good as the people who live and die by them.

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  • by RC loves ice cream on May 24th, 2009

    RC loves ice cream

    No, liberalism is what is trying to prevent the second from actually becoming the first. They've always been the primary defenders of the constitution.

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  • by Anonymous T. Jackson on May 24th, 2009

    Anonymous T. Jackson

    To say that "liberalism" is responsible is dangerous. It is the landed and moneyed elite that have been regulating the masses since the time of the Sumerians. We escaped to an unoccupied continent about 200 years ago but they have just completed rounding us all up and reducing us to indebted wage-slaves again. Enjoy!

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  • by Old School on May 24th, 2009

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  • by Temple.U.college.student on January 30th, 2010

    Temple.U.college.student

    "liberalism" with a lower case "l" does not break these "chains"; this is a world view all about freedom. Liberalism with a capital "L" (also known as "Progressivism") broke the "chains" by legally stealing the fruits of my labor to give to those who perform little to no labor.

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  • by andycasanova on January 30th, 2010

    andycasanova

    No. Progressives see the Constitution as a living document. They seek to break the chains by evoultionary change rather then revolutionary. It is time for the liberals to expell the progresives from the democrat party as they have eroded their core values.

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  • by Don Gorgeous George on May 24th, 2009

    Don Gorgeous George

    Maybe a little, but I think it's more the right wing that is breaking the chains.

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  • by Moongrim on May 24th, 2009

    Moongrim

    No.

    Conservatism has already removed hundreds of links of such chains.

    Liberals are just trying to bring back some sanity, and the Conservatives are crying foul because they like not having such chains.

    http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Examples_of_Republican_hypocrisy_on_moral_values

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  • by Eidelweiss on May 24th, 2009

    Eidelweiss

    I think the chains have already been broken.

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  • by ConservativelyLiberal on May 24th, 2009

    ConservativelyLiberal

    Nope.

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  • by mailbagger on February 10th, 2010

    mailbagger

    Yes, liberalism (progressivism) is big government and big government is NOT restrained government. Jefferson wanted a small, well regulated government, not a large government and a well regulated populous. We need to return to the rule of law. Where is it written that Lehman Brothers should be allowed to fail and the rest of the finical sector is given large sums of the people’s money?

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  • by Darrin Knode on February 10th, 2010

    Darrin Knode

    Modern "liberalism" has nothing to do with the sentiments of real liberalism. So I would agree that "liberalism" has been destroying these chains. The modern liberal is nothing but a repackaged conservative - who has no love for individual liberty and a sickening attachment to communitarian obligation and duty to others. Liberalism properly understood, died in America and the rest of the western world, a long time ago. Unfortunately, its enemies prevailed.

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  • by playdoo on March 11th, 2010

    playdoo

    Jefferson forgot the greatest enemy of the people ... apathy. Every state that ever existed and failed on this earth wasn't ruined by criminals or government but by the apathy of its citizens.. America or any state functions in the supreme when its citizens are of purpose . Corruption can not exist but either though the will of the majority to allow it or the apathy of the social good from the majority. The indignant citizen is the best citizen of the state and for the state BUT ONLY IF HE HAS THE TRUE INTEREST OF SOCIAL GOOD. Indignant citizens bound the powers of government and send a clear message. Some however hide behind outrage and agenda . Is it the far left?......yes It is the far right? .....yes . Both have no interest of the other or for that matter for the majority which lay inbetween their rigid idealogy. Their idealogy is more important then any exception to curcumstance and the indignation is not of injustice but impotence to inflict their idealogy on others. Unfortunely these are the people who get into government and set up power structures to say mildly enforce their idealogy . If the liberals were so liberal they would use technology to include free votes on everything and if the conservatives don't believe in over reaching government and the freedom of the indivual they would endorse the very liberal idea of one person one vote on anything that affects the citizens of the state. But lets face it will never happen and not because of the government. I suspect apathy would rule the day

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  • by jfermiller on April 29th, 2010

    jfermiller

    The quote is mistakenly attributed to Thomas Jefferson. As Ayn Rand was fond of saying: "Check your premises".

    "The Jefferson misquotation appears in April 2000 in an essay, “Rule by Brute Force,” by Steve Kubby of the American Medical Marijuana Association."
    http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/the_two_enemies_of_the_people_are_criminals_and_government/

    "He did employ the phrase "chains of the Constitution" at least once, however, in the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798: "...in questions of power then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the constitution..."
    wiki.monticello.org/...php/The_two_enemies_of_the_people

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  • by chipperoni on July 3rd, 2011

    chipperoni

    Thomas Jefferson actually never said that. It's one of those bogus quotes that nobody can find in his papers that floats around the internet, along with many others falsely attributed to the founding fathers these days. It's the equivalent of those chain letters that claimed Microsoft was paying $200 for every e-mail forwarded and other such nonsense. If you consider the quote carefully, it really doesn't sound like something he would have written simply because he was a better writer than that. Abraham Lincoln has an interesting quote about fooling people. You should take a look at that. In answer to your question - no.

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  • by Lindsey on May 24th, 2009

    Lindsey

    Yes and no. It depends on if you're asking about personal rights or fiscal policies. I believe we're moving towards greater individual rights, while at the same time enslaving ourselves with higher taxes for the government to dole out the fruits of our labor to those they deem fit. The first is an improvement, as no man should judge the life or choices of another, so long as he is not directly impacted by it. However, the second is government-forced thievery.

    Do you feel the same way? You may be a Libertarian.

    www.lp.org

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