by Valparaiso on February 15th, 2007

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Should I become a freemason?

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by Firebrand on February 15th, 2007
Do you want to stand around with one breast bared and your trouser leg rolled up swearing allegiance to God only knows what nefarious deeds
, I am not sure that their ideals are ones that run alongside your religios beliefs val
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- From my understanding this is a lot of rumors to it.
  
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  by Valparaiso on February 15th, 2007
- Um --- why is this the #1 answer here when it is clearly uninformed and just plain dumb?
  
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  by JohnTheRoman on August 22nd, 2009
- Lighten up it is a 2 1/2 year old question and answer with a joke between friends. Val was a very good friend of mine and it is hardly a high scoring answer.
  
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  by Firebrand on August 22nd, 2009
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by singwell-is off researching a lot on February 15th, 2007
no. My father was one, and, as a precious little early teenager, I took him on when I found one of their magazines beside his bed. It read that if someone revealed the secrets of the masons to an outsider, that they should be hanged, drawn and quartered (it was described in detail). I confronted him and asked him why he belonged to an organisation that taught this. He said I should not have read it, to which I replied: then don't leave it lying round. You know I read anything.
He left soon after. I think it got to him.
The Freemasons are a strange group, very gnostic in teaching, whose beliefs are built on fables (that they are descended from the builders of Solomon's temple) and who control by secretism. ANy organisation that encourages secret initiation ceremonies has to be suspect, would you not say. And as for the secret handshakes that win you business deals....hmmm. not on.
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- Really, thats weird because they have a website up where you can join and they take Christians, Jews, and Muslims. You just have to belive in a God, but I'll take your word for it.
  
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  by Valparaiso on February 15th, 2007
- yes, they say that, but that is the gnosticism showing through. "We welcome everyone who believes in a god, but once you are in, we will introduce you to the deeper truths, which will correct you and lead you into higher knowledges that just those simple beliefs you once professed." Wikipedia has an article on Freemasonry that is pretty good, although not as personal as my comments, naturally. lolol
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry
  
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  by singwell-is off researching a lot on February 15th, 2007
- Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, and is not a good source to quote. Try this one: http://www.masonicinfo.com
  
  And you have some very wrong ideas about what Freemasons are singwell.
  
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  by jbigie on July 7th, 2008
- Oh, I am soooo sorry jbigie...I just got my ideas from their literature. Of course it wouldn't give me the right ideas.
  
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  by singwell-is off researching a lot on July 7th, 2008
- duplicate
  
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  by singwell-is off researching a lot on July 7th, 2008
- You got those ideas from Masonic literature? Nothing I've ever read in my ten years of membership has ever been along those lines.
  
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  by jbigie on July 7th, 2008
- If you read my intial post, you will see that I became interested in because my father was in it. He inadvertently provided the literature I learnt about Masonic beliefs from...and then I researched. Your answer does not change my words. I know that, like most secretive organisations, masons will not confirm anything that is deemed a no-no for outsiders...and if you are a Mason you will be no different.
  Unsubscribing from this.
  
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  by singwell-is off researching a lot on July 10th, 2008
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by maccmann on July 4th, 2009
For honest, direct answers to all of your questions:

http://www.masonicinfo.com

Don't believe the rumors and uninformed masses who know nothing of what they speak.
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by Abbyguy on February 10th, 2009
No! Val I know you are a Christian and what they stand for is the complete opposite of what you stand for, once you get beneath the shiny happy surface. Go to You tube and watch the series of videos Riddles in Stone by Chris Pinto, it'll really open your eyes!
Here's the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcLDPoeI4ms
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by la reina on February 10th, 2009
are you crazy......are you willing to denounce god( if thats your belief)....good luck.do you like men? how about going to the bohemian grove....you will see then what its all about...
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by Anonymous on November 22nd, 2008
Let's get one thing straight - no one needs to wait to be asked.

If anyone (man or woman, because contrary to the common misconception that women can't become Masons they can and have been for over a 100 years) wishes to become a Freemason then they simply need to contact either their nearest lodge or even send an email to whichever GL/Obedience they're interested in joining.

People should only ask if they are serious about joining and if they wish to do so for the right reasons. You cannot be a Freemason if you are racist or have murderous or criminal intent. Also those wishing to join for social networking, furthering their career opportunities, etc… will soon be very disappointed and leave.
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by dainty fetish is back HARD and READY on July 7th, 2008
If that is your wish.
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by Anonymous on February 15th, 2007
Freemason's will do away with religions in the near future, they will unite all religions through economics as they pretty much own the world in this area. They control majority of the seats in the UN and believe in a NEW WORLD ORDER.

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Daniel 2:44 says that God will do away with goverments and kings.
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- Actually being part of a religion is a requirement to join.
  
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  by Valparaiso on February 15th, 2007
- Yes i know, they are going to join all religions together, it is UN backed. it will happen!
  
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  by Anonymous on February 15th, 2007
- I imagine that will go over well with the all the world's religions. . . yeah right
  
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  by Valparaiso on February 16th, 2007
- well the pope has allready hinted that way. cant be to far away.
  
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  by Anonymous on February 17th, 2007
- Wrong, very wrong.
  
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  by jbigie on July 7th, 2008
- It's true, after you look at the history you see what they are up to and what they desire. A one world religion is already in the works, the Pope has held worship services with a group of world religious leaders stating that he would like all religion to worship together to one god. Many high level Masons including George Bush have talked openly about a "New World Order." Mason Belief system is based on Gnosticism a religion that embraced many beliefs and acknowledgment of a "Higher Power" no matter where the power comes from. Their occult roots a obvious when placed beside any form of Christianity, and they will o their best to "enlighten you" as to the real way things work.
  
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  by Abbyguy on February 10th, 2009
- George Bush is NOT a Mason.
  
  http://www.masonicinfo.com/famousnon.htm
  
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  by jbigie on February 11th, 2009
- I am a mason for many years and also being an Irish Catholic, I have found that the Vatican a powerful body that has attempted to rule over a New World Order. The abuses of children, especially in Ireland, and the refusal of the Papal See to do anything against pedophille priests and bishops shows the level of contempt the Vatican has over the congregation. There is also the dealings of the Vatican bank and some rather dodgy property deals. The Scandal in Ireland over the Magdalene Sisters came about over a botched property deal which led to the discovery of a secret graveyard. The Nuns that ran the Magdelene Sisters were committing infanticide, and same was going on in the Christian Brothers in the Industrial schools. The Vatican buried and misrepresented these crimes.
  For One World Government conspiracy look at the History and evolution of the Catholic Church since its inception.
  
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by CincinnatiDrummer on February 15th, 2007
lol

You can't just "become" a freemason. You have to be asked! Among other things...
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- Actually I have access to their petition which I would need to start the process. This isn't just a random question.
  
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  by Valparaiso on February 15th, 2007
- No Mason will ever ask a man to join, we are not allowed to. Any man seeking membership must approach us of his own free will, without coersion of any kind.
  
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  by jbigie on July 7th, 2008
- No but you can suggest that they ask you, oddly enough it is quite effective.
  
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  by Abbyguy on February 10th, 2009
- We have bumper stickers that say "To be one, ask one" We can't ask anyone to join, we can't suggest that they ask us to join. All we can do is put ourselves in public view and hope that prospective members view us favorably.
  
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  by jbigie on February 11th, 2009
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by jbigie on July 7th, 2008
If you want to, yes.

Among millions of Masons, not one was lawfully invited to apply for membership. Our code of conduct prevents it. Thus, no faithful Mason can invite you. Any Mason can obtain a Petition for the Degrees of Masonry for you, but you must ask for it, and for good reason.

You should ask yourself a few questions, Do you reflect on the nature of man's existence and your obligations to God, your family, and yourself? We want you to know what we believe, how we act, and what we do; then, should you ever become a Mason, you will be proud to be our Brother and excited to participate in our work. Only those who desire membership because of a favorable impression of us should seek a petition.

That's why you must "ask yourself." Are you ready to become a better man?
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by PCelsus on February 19th, 2011
I don't believe half of what the conspiracy video's are publicisizing. I have thought long and hard about becoming a Freemason, Nearly for two years now waiting until i can answere yes to myself without hesitation, making sure i'm joining for the right reasons. For about three or four years now i've been intriguied with the study of esoteric symbolism, philosophy, and religious paralells. It's a society for universal brotherhood free of social status , race or creed. Embraces the expansion an liberation of intellect and consciousness through philosophic and symbolic rituals that have roots in some of the earliest systems of belief.
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by American4sure on December 27th, 2010
If you want to void the constitution for other americans, go for it. Leave religion out, you will be required to lie under oath (besides murder or treason) to protect a fellow mason. You will get the good jobs, and be promoted due to your membership. All the times youve said"why didnt he get in trouble? I dont remember reading about so n so who got in trouble. How did he get that job? Why was he promoted, so n so was more qualified. All those questions will be answered.
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by Eltinwe has a life Swan - DYOH on February 15th, 2007
Presuming you've been asked...

No.
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  by Valparaiso on February 15th, 2007
- No Mason will ever ask a man to join, we are not allowed to. Any man seeking membership must approach us of his own free will, without coersion of any kind.
  
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  by jbigie on July 7th, 2008
- I tend to be against joining any exclusive club. Which is to say, any club that views themselves as better than "regular" people. I've known certainly a number of masons in my life... some were very nice, some not so much. But my experience is that the higher level ones had some weird/bad theology going on and while that may not be related to freemasonry, I'm sure being a mason didn't help anything on that count.
  
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by Anonymous on February 10th, 2009
Of course, who would pass up an opportunity to join an organization accused of conspiracy and global domination.
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by Little Bo Peep on January 22nd, 2008
Yes why not. It's free!
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- Actually, it isn't. We charge initiation fees, and then yearly dues. Very modest, of course. In Oregon, the norm is $50 per degree, and then $50 per year, although it does vary from Lodge to Lodge.
  
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by FLYxNIGHT on February 15th, 2007
It seems like something that couldn't hurt; I've been dying for someone to sponsor me, but for fifteen years, nothing.
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- All you have to do is ask a Mason to join, if you're a good guy, you'll have no trouble joining.
  
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by Slabu_R on November 24th, 2010
what's the point they are human to,which are the chance not to be rotten?who knows what they practice when gather togheter,maybe worst than ortodox church.
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