by DirtyDiana on June 3rd, 2005

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Are people born gay?

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  • by OverRate_504 on September 22nd, 2006

    OverRate_504

    Okay, "Is it learned?" learned... honesty? "I'd like to enroll in the Fall semester for Homo1301."

    No it is not learned, one person who commented above put it best: "People are born gay just like people are born straight. Being gay isn't learned just like being straight isn't learned."

    Another thing though for another fellow commenter up there, mutation and flaw, are not friendly words, altered gene sounds less hatefull.

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    • "Homo1301"! LMAO

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on December 7th, 2006

    • The textbooks - "Lady Lumberjack" and "Vogue: A Century of Portrait Photography"

      jt007m

      by jt007m on December 8th, 2006

    • Lady Lumberjack is good. I saw that.

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on December 8th, 2006

    • hahahaha jt: i think we're on to something, throw in a video lecture class on will and grace and we may have something here.

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 8th, 2006

    • How about a 12 page thesis on "Man vs Superman vs Tom Ford"? Hell, maybe we should start a whole school!

      jt007m

      by jt007m on December 9th, 2006

    • hahahahahahaha

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 9th, 2006

    • Don't you think it's time to change your username from "Anonymous" if you're going to keep hanging out here? You can do that on your profile by clicking the "Account settings" link and updating the Nickname. Otherwise, it's very tough for others to keep track of who you are across time...

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on December 9th, 2006

    • i know i know i'm considering it, i probably will... thats why i got the picture haha.

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 10th, 2006

    • better? haha everything i chose was taken i went through like 10 names

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 10th, 2006

    • much better!

      jt007m

      by jt007m on December 10th, 2006

    • Whaddya do to OverRate_503 when you found that was already taken?! :-)

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on December 10th, 2006

    • no haha 504 is the area code of my home town, i added that behind it figuring it wouldn't b taken

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 10th, 2006

    • Looks like you were right! But why not just plain OverRate?

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on December 10th, 2006

    • that was probably one of the ones i tried. and if not then i got to it after i decided to add 504 to the end.

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 10th, 2006

    • Alright, last of our bonus questions: who's the avatar, and where's the detailed information on your profile? Get with the program, girl! :-)

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on December 11th, 2006

    • haha thats steven tyler and i'll fill everything else out don't worry ;-P

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 11th, 2006

    • Steven Tyler! Thank god I didn't go with my first comment plan, which was going to be "you look cute, post a bigger picture..."

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on December 11th, 2006

    • I have deduced that you live in Louisiana! You're getting less anonymous all the time.

      LynfromNM

      by LynfromNM on December 11th, 2006

    • hahahaha hes pretty much my idol, and yeah thats about as big as i think the picture gets as an aviator because on my computer its big, but its not me anyway haha. and actually Lyn, yeah the 504, I lived in New Orleans for most of my life, I just moved to Texas after Katrina.

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 11th, 2006

    • Long live N.O.! I'm planning a trip with my band to do a discovery adventure in New Orlean. 3 days and nights of nothing but music, culture, and food. I'm hoping it'll motivate and inspire us.

      jt007m

      by jt007m on December 12th, 2006

    • Oh that sounds like fun, the city is pretty much centered on those 3 things and it's inspired many great bands living in and outside of New Orleans, so I wish you luck.

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 12th, 2006

    • Does that mean that some people are born child molesters? Think about it... You are born a baby, grow up around straight parents, one day you just decide that you find "Jonathan" or "Mary" attractive. OKay, do you think it's wrong? Normally, if you feel something is wrong, it is. Just like you are born a baby, you grow up, you find yourself attracted to little kids, you know its wrong, so it's a choice you make. I don't see how you guys get that you are born gay?? It's impossible.

      LdyCharlene

      by LdyCharlene on December 17th, 2006

    • Just so we re clear I DO NOT condone child molesting at all, period. I think they should fight their urges at any and all costs possible. (I am working on a doctorate in Psychology and one of my professors once told me about a patient of his *no names* who tried just that, he was a child molester and got so frustrated with his disease that he tried to cut off his own penis.) It has been proven that child molesters have a chemical imbalance in their brains, so yes, they are born that way. It s not impossible if you think about it, you don t choose who you re attracted to. Attraction is an emotion deep inside of you that you can t alter no matter how abnormal your attraction may be. Straight people are born straight. As their hormones mature they become attracted to the opposite sex. Likewise, gay people become attracted to the same sex. And some people find attraction elsewhere. Puberty can occur at a young age, lets just say for arguments sake an average of 13 years old. At around 13 and younger your parents aren t going to be influencing who you re attracted to because they will either think you re too young to be attracted to anyone or not realize you even have any attractions yet at all. Also your statement: "You are born a baby, grow up around straight parents, one day you just decide that you find "Jonathan" or "Mary" attractive." contradicts your argument, if you grow up in a heterosexual environment all your life you re not going to just decide to become attracted the same sex.

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 17th, 2006

    • LdyCharlene: whether or not child molesters are born that way isn't really relevant to the question -- child molestation is clearly a moral wrong, because the adult (with power) is abusing the child (with no power) for their own sick craving. This is NOT the case with ordinary homosexuality, which involves consenting adults.

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on December 18th, 2006

    • Um, being attracted to consenting adults isn't wrong. Its when you are attracted to helpless children that it is wrong. Gay people are attracted to consenting adults. Child molestors are attracted to children. There's a whopping big difference between the two.

      eternal0void

      by eternal0void on December 18th, 2006

    • LdyCharlene: You say "Normally, if you feel something is wrong, it is." I was born lefthanded. Everyone around me was righthanded. I just barely missed the period when they were strapping lefthanders' left hands behind their backs and beating them to try and make them give up being a lefthander. Normally, if you think something is wrong, it is because you are different from the people surrounding you. It doesn't necessarily mean that you are wrong for being who you are. Does "The Ugly Duckling" ring any bells? Not all of us are righthanded ducks like you.

      eternal0void

      by eternal0void on December 18th, 2006

    • eternal0void is right: the feeling that "something is wrong" can arise simply because of being different than others. It can also arise for any number of psychological reasons, mostly involving past conditioning. This feeling is not a good, sound basis for making moral judgments at all, and in fact relying mainly on that feeling indicates a fairly low level of moral development and self-awareness.

      Stableboy

      by Stableboy on December 18th, 2006

    • woooo lefthanded!!! haha it always feels like i'm the only one...

      OverRate_504

      by OverRate_504 on December 19th, 2006

    • There is a strong correlation between left-handedness and homosexuality.

      Magenta

      by Magenta on August 26th, 2007

    • No, there is "cause for further study" as far as left-handedness and homosexuality. The studies say that homosexual men are lefthanded just as often as the general population, or only slightly higher (11% homosexual to 10% heterosexual, or in another study 14% homosexual to 9% heterosexual). The only "strong correlation" is in lesbians, who are anywhere from 70% to 90% more likely to be lefthanded than heterosexual women. However, the only study groups so far have had less than 40 participants in each group, lesbians and gay men, so it is "cause for further study", not "strong correlation."

      eternal0void

      by eternal0void on August 27th, 2007

    • seesh...
      I will concede the word "strong".

      Magenta

      by Magenta on August 27th, 2007

    • "Learned" no, but a perception.

      We have Perceptions of sex, and relationships.

      these affect what we perceive as "Gay" or "Strait"

      these perceptions are just that, what we come up with in our own heads based on what we have learned over our years here on the earth. Many would have your believe that we are Born with these perceptions, But I say we each develop them on our own. But they are affected by our environment, and how we perceive it.

      until a sexual study is done, allowing for Physical response to sexual stimulation, it can not be proved to me that a physical body, cannot enjoy any sexual act, that is done without malice, and to cause pleasure to the partner. regardless of the sexuality of the participants.

      sex is sex, when the room is dark and you have a orgasm, it matters not whether the hand or mouth touching you belongs to a man or women. enough stimulation will give you pleasure.

      BubbaTech

      by BubbaTech on November 15th, 2009

    • Bubbatech, physical orgasms aren't always the same as sexual enjoyment.
      .
      Female rape victims often have a physical pleasure reaction to the rape, because of the stimulation, and then spend decades in therapy to come to terms with the fact that they only had a physical reaction and don't "enjoy rape."
      .
      Men were often raped in the Soviet gulags by gangs of women. Tie a leather strap to the right place on a man and he gets an involuntary erection, and sometimes even ejaculates from the forced sex with women. Its an orgasm, but it is not, in any sense of the phrase, "enjoyment of sex."
      .
      Loving sex is one thing. Forced sex with someone to whom you are not sexually attracted is another. I hope you seek therapy for your conclusion that sex with a partner to whom you are not attracted is in any way "pleasurable" in the same sense that loving sex is pleasurable.

      eternal0void

      by eternal0void on November 16th, 2009

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