by Aero is back and wiser on March 25th, 2008

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Religious beliefs aside,do you think that evolution makes logical sense enough and has enough supporting evidence to become a scientific fact?

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  • by andthenitsgone on February 7th, 2009

    andthenitsgone

    No matter the answers you receive, it will never quite satisfy your soul. It's like an incomplete phone number or a meal missing the main entree.

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    • I don't understand your stance. Please explain.

      Aero is back and wiser

      by Aero is back and wiser on February 8th, 2009

    • Evolutionary perspective will never quite fill one up, always searching for something they'll never quite attain to their fulfillment.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 9th, 2009

    • It certainly won't raise a persons' self-worth.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 9th, 2009

    • Ok, so that's a no to the question then? Also, I do find the fact I'm part of a race that evolved for roughly 7 millions to be something to pride my species and self in. The fact we were able to surive this long through all the things nature has thrown at us is something to be proud. We may not hold the billions like bacteria, but millions is bloody impressive.I'm proud to be part of a race that has flourished for countless centuries.

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      by Aero is back and wiser on February 9th, 2009

    • That's a resounding "no" to the question. The question we must ask ourselves is, "Where does LIFE come from?"

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 11th, 2009

    • From God.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 11th, 2009

    • From Abiogenesis of course. Also, evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life, that's abiogenesis. Evolution is the changes of life to better adapt to it's enviroment so it can surive. I don't understand why theists get defensive about evolution when only the evolutionary track of homosapiens clashes with their religion, Which, ironicly, is one of the evolutionary paths we have momentual proof for. Evolution is proven on a microscopic scale already, and the process in larger beings would be the exact same. Why not just dispute human's evolution and leave the theory itself alone. Attacking the evolutionary concept really makes you look thick when it has such overwhelming backing it has withstood over 100 years of scrutiny from the scientific community.

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      by Aero is back and wiser on February 11th, 2009

    • Science indeed has a place; in backing up what the Bible says about the creation is true. Otherwise it acts only in self-interested bias. It disregards morality, scruples. Today's path of "human evolution" is taking us down a dark road we've traveled before. I've come to know the effects of "science" has had on the human body. It is evil.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 12th, 2009

    • Of course there's been some amazing advances in organ transplants, but this is getting off the subject here..

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 12th, 2009

    • Aero: Yes, or no: Do you think it wise to fuse technology with the body.
      A:

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 12th, 2009

    • That's.. what I thought.

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      by andthenitsgone on February 13th, 2009

    • Sorry, but I do have other things to do, being a freshmen high school student. It took me awhile to get back to this. Science does not, in any instance, back up the claim of creationism at all. If you have such proof, I'd love to hear it because every one I've ever heard of has been easily debunked. Science is not a living thing, it can't have a bias. Science of the UNbiased advancement of knowledge. How in the world is human's evolution taking us down a "dark road"? All it's doing is explaining our origins. How can that possibly be undermining humanity. You claim science is evil. The science that brought the vaccine for polio. The science that allows us to live in luxury instead of caves wearing animal skins. The science that has saved millions, of lives with various advances in medical treatment. The science that I owe my own life to many times over as I'm sure you do as well. The science that allows you at this very moment to be reading on this blog site?!

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      by Aero is back and wiser on February 13th, 2009

    • The level of ignorance shown by saying "science is evil" is disturbing. As for fusing technology with the body, you will need to elaborate on that about what your getting to. Although as far as I know, giving people the artifical heart, prosthyetic limbs, surgical plates, hearing aids, and diaylsis has proven pretty positive when used.

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      by Aero is back and wiser on February 13th, 2009

    • Not trying to attack you. Getting back to your original question before we get all haywire over here: There is a tendency to treat humans differently from an evolutionary perspective then we would from a creation perspective. Your question is good! I'm just trying to elude to a belief system; Are you and I just a piece of meat stemming from the goo years ago, or were we created with a purpose greater than ourselves?

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 14th, 2009

    • Our belief system is everything, because what we believe on the inside should manifest on the outside. I ask that as you move on in life to ask the hard questions, seek past the answers offered, and to really think beyond the immediate.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 14th, 2009

    • As important as it is to get good education, don't let school be the only source of information. The time of 2+2=5 is coming.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 14th, 2009

    • Are we just a piece of meat stemming from the goo billions of years ago, in simplified terms, yes. No, we don't have a higher purpose, it's merely human arrogance to think that way. We are no different the the rest of the animals that roam this Earth other than our thinking power. That alone sets us above the rest and gives us the level of intellgence to arrognantly assume we are speical among animals and destined for something greater. I have asked myself the hard questions, Where did we come from?, How did life start?, and what happens after death?. Being raised in a highly christian background, I always followed my parents, and believe everything I heard in church without question. It wasn't until I became aware of the other possibilities and researched them that I realized how hugely unlikely the thelogical answers were. So I did look past the offered answers and found the most likely ones, the scientifcly backed ones.

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      by Aero is back and wiser on February 16th, 2009

    • I am curious to know what you mean by "the time of 2+2=5 is coming". Are you insuating our school systems are failing, because I'm inclinded to agree with that, but likely for different reasons.

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      by Aero is back and wiser on February 16th, 2009

    • Aero, Go with the background in which you've been raised, it is the truth. The Bible will never ever fail you. Do you recall the saying "Science built the Titanic, but Noah built the Ark.?"
      Yes it is a mystery, and it is OK that this is so.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 18th, 2009

    • The equation is a simplified form of reasoning. We're quickly moving into a time where reasoning will not suffice. It really will not make sense. I'm not insulting school systems as much as some of the hooey some within its' system would like to present as "fact."

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 18th, 2009

    • John 8:44 Aero.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 18th, 2009

    • I looked up that passage and really, I have to say WTF. All I got from that was apparently I'm the father of the devil, and my father is supposedly a lying, murdering, demon. I've never heard the Noah Titanic saying before, and I don't really get the metaphor. As for my christian background, you claim it is the truth and that the bible is infailible. The bible is, in my personal opinion, barbaric, hypocritical, gruesome, and contradicted by what we already know countless times over. If you would like to know why I think such, this site is one of the many examples that will show you a fraction of the maddness in the bible. As for christianity, where is your proof any of it is true? Their isn't a shred of physical proof Jesus even existed or preformed any of his "miracles". Christianty dosen't have a any proof to back it none. Having nothing to back the claim "their's an invisible man In the sky who is omnipresent and omninipitent, and all powerful made everything."

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      by Aero is back and wiser on February 18th, 2009

    • "He also loves you unconditionally but if you break in of his 10 golden rules, regardless of which, and don't worship him your entire life every day, he has a special place full of unimagianable torture where he will send you to endure for all eternity. But remeber, he loves you. So much so he sent his son down to us to keep us from going to hell, but instead of opening the gates to heaven instantly, like he could have with his infinite power, he had is son inhumanely tortured, whipped, and nailed to a tree until he suffocated under the strain of moving he chest. The fact he was covered in several sereve injuries that poured blood also played a factor." Sounds like a egotistical, sadistical, unfeeling monster. Not a benevolent god whom loves all living things.

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      by Aero is back and wiser on February 18th, 2009

    • Well, these things take time. No freshly made chile tastes all that great until the ingredients have been hanging out awhile, and the same applies here. I kicked and balked too, but let me tell you something: His Word will stand true forever, and nothing here on earth, no science or anything that man can come up with will ever surpass Him, His Word,or His ways. You may not "get it" right this moment, but I hope you do later on.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 18th, 2009

    • And it is by faith, not by "Prove it to me and then I'll believe." Who made who?

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 18th, 2009

    • The old "God works in mysterious ways". You think I will understand better later. It dosen't take a 15 yr. old to figure out how sadistic the bible and biblical god is. Your making claims about your God's divinty based on no evidence. Why should I believe something with no backing, seems foolish to me. You have faith, because you have no evidence of your god yet you believe he exists anyway, the definition of faith. I on the other hand, refuse to believe in such a outlandish claim without some creditible evidence. So let's just agree to disagree. You believe on faith, and I don't believe because I believe such faith is foolish.

      Aero is back and wiser

      by Aero is back and wiser on February 18th, 2009

    • So you think the world will eventually come into its' own perfection through man's vast intelligence? That matter starts as chaos and comes together in uniformity? Not. This is not true. It started fresh, and it runs down. The whole of this reality is in conformity to what the Bible says it is. Eventually this one is going to go away, and be replaced with one that will not corrupt.
      Amen and out.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on February 19th, 2009

    • @Aero, very deep thoughts for a freshman in highschool (sophomore by now?), respect;) I went through a similar journey of research as you, altough I started in my junior year.
       
      Why do you say humans had about 7 million years of the 'race'? That's the time we've parted ways with the chimpanzees, our closest relatives, but our ancestors before that evolved too. Our ancestry goes back to 3.5 billion years ago to the very origin of life (as does every other organism's).

      773491

      by 773491 on August 14th, 2009

    • @andthenitsgone, what matters first is what's true, and not 'what sounds nice'. Just because something sounds good to you doesn't make it true. Evolution tells us how we got here, not how we should act. Evolution equipped us with the capacity to feel for others (empathy). If you do need a God that punishes you if you do bad, then you're not a very 'moral' person. You'd be the equivalent of a person that only doesn't kill someone because he/she might get punished by the law if caught.

      773491

      by 773491 on August 14th, 2009

    • Very true 773491. I was just counting from the branch of the evolutionary tree where we broke from chimpanzees and on. I have learned a lot about those billions of years of evolution, and still am. I think it's one of the most fascinating fields of science. It combines my passions of science and history. The long treck from the wandering planet collision, to the first sea creatures, to the mass extinction that wiped out 90% of all life, to the dinosaurs and the next mass extinction, to modern day is absolutely mesmerizing. I still love to learn more and am actively doing so. [and yes, it's sophomore now ; ) ]

      Aero is back and wiser

      by Aero is back and wiser on August 14th, 2009

    • John 1 when you have decided to open your heart and mind.

      andthenitsgone

      by andthenitsgone on August 14th, 2009

    • I know exactly what you mean, aero;)

      773491

      by 773491 on August 15th, 2009

    • Andthenits gone, How spot on can you be??LOL

      denidowi

      by denidowi on November 18th, 2009

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