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You're reading The Bible tells us to stay a virgin until marriage. I don't ever want to get married. Am I really obligated to stay a virgin until I die?
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Really great answer. You managed to cover all the bases without preaching.
by QWERTY on September 28th, 2008
Yes, that's a great answer, but it happens to be biblically incorrect. Ever hear of the "sin of fornication?" Fornication is any sex outside marriage.
by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on September 28th, 2008
Biblically incorrect? You might want to study to show yourself approved.
http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=08457&t=KJV
http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=02181&t=KJV
http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=4202&t=KJV
http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=4203&t=KJV
http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=1608&t=KJV
Those are the ONLY words for fornication used in the entire KJV. I could add the definitions for the word, fornicators, but the meanings are the same. The OT connotation is and always has been "whoring" yourself to another god. The NT connotation agrees with the OT but also adds all forms of illicit sexual acts, like bestiality and incest, not just adultery or sex outside of marriage.
Now, since you want to be literal, find me chapter and verse, in the Bible, that defines the parameters for the establishment of a divine union between two people.
by urk on September 28th, 2008
I Corinthians 6:18-20 - "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have recieved from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body."
The Bible explicitly forbids any sexual experiences outside of marriage. Period.
DISCLAIMER: I present this here as being biblical, not necessarily being my personal belief.
by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on September 29th, 2008
1 Cor. 6:18 is listed in the third link in my previous comment as using the same broad definition as all other NT references to fornication. It is a great example of the Bible attitude toward all types of sexual immorality, but it has to be over-interpreted to support your claim.
Regardless, this still does nothing to provide a framework for a divine union that would legitimize sexual intercourse. There is no such guidance in the Bible.
What I fail to understand is why you would argue a point that may not even be your personal belief when the aim of my answer was to attempt to offer hope to someone whose heart is clearly pure.
by urk on September 29th, 2008
Does it bother you?
by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on September 30th, 2008
Wow. How quaint.
by urk on September 30th, 2008
You didn't answer my question.
by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on September 30th, 2008
urk, several elements of the traditional wedding ceremony antedate the Catholic (Christian) faith by a long way.
"With my body I thee worship, and with all my worldly goods I thee endow; and thereto I plight thee my troth" is older than Christianity. So are the rice, the "something blue," and the Chivaree, and carrying the bride over the threshold.
by Sandman on August 29th, 2009
Urk: P.S: your Hebrew reference pages are fascinating.
Kudos and +points.
by Sandman on August 29th, 2009
Thank you sir!
by urk on August 29th, 2009
URK..If Maranda wants your opinion she has it...On the other hand if she wants to know what the Bible says..it tells us to flee from fornication . Exactly what is “fornication”? While the Bible’s use of this term can include sexual intercourse on the part of unmarried persons as well as adultery, it has a much broader meaning. The Greek word used was Por‧nei′a which was used in Bible times to describe all forms of unlawful sexual intercourse. (The Vocabulary of the Greek New Testament, by Moulton and Milligan) It includes ordinary sexual relations between persons who are not married to each other.
by vew573 on September 19th, 2009
What she should be fleeing from is religion. There is nothing more devastating to the spirit of man than religion. It is the single most powerful means to separate man from his creator.
by urk on September 19th, 2009
I don't know what your experience has been with religion...certainly Christendom does not accurately represent the Bible...On the contrary. When I firt started seriously studying the Bible, I was shocked to learn that most of the main doctrines taught in Christendom are not supported by Scripture. And as far as living according to Scripture...for a large part, this is not the case either....I think hypocracy on the part of those professing to be "Christian leaders" in Christendom is one of the most prominent reasons why many have turned away from religion.
by vew573 on September 20th, 2009
Thank you, you guys. I appreciate both answers. I still don't feel marriage is the right choice for me, and I'm 25, so I don't believe I'm going to change my mind. I just wanted to see what other people thought about the situation. Didn't want to start an argument, either. I guess argument comes with the subject of religion.
by Anonymous on October 25th, 2009
As it does also with the subject of sexual morality, dear Miranda.
BTW, I changed my mind at age 27.
by Sandman on November 3rd, 2009
Great answer, urk! I was going to say the same thing.
by Anonymous on November 4th, 2009
Thanks LD! You should see how many DRs I got for it!
by urk on November 4th, 2009
Not to worry. Several of us gave you some of ours. : D
by CaptainHarley adores his life penguin on November 4th, 2009
Sadly, I am not surprised. Why people care what others do in bed is beyond me. I gave you 5 points (all I can give right now), so hopefully that will offset the DR's for a bit.
by Anonymous on November 4th, 2009
PURITY IS THE WORD U SHOULD TAKE INTO ACOUNT.... SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE IS A SIN..... WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU??..... KEEPING VIRGINITY IS RECORDED THERE. ITS VERY CLEAR WHEN IT SAYS SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE IS SIN.......DON'T OVER LOOK THAT(OBEDIENCE) OBEY GOD, NOT MAN.....Hebrews 13:4
Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. (NIV)
People don't get urselfs tricked into giving ur Virginty away just for Fun.....Marriage is the proper boundary....thats what the WORD says.
Cheers and take care
GOD BLESS YOU ALL
by Mrnld_E on January 9th, 2011
just because you have sex outside of marriage, it doesn't mean you're only doing it for fun. Grow up. Also, using all capitals stops you from being taken seriously.
by Seraphim Shinobi on January 9th, 2011