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by ss_69camaro on April 5th, 2008
hey im sarah,
im apostolic and we believe that there is only one god which is jesus christ. we believe that in order to be filled with God's spirit you have to repent of your sins,be baptised in the named of Jesus Christ not 3 different names or under any other name and speak in tongues. i have bible scriptures for ANY question that u have.and if your really interested ill explain to u why we do certain things that we do, and why we dont do certain things also. my email is ss_69camaro@yahoo.com
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These are the EXACT WORDS OF JESUS CHRIST himself to say that you only baptize in the name of Jesus is ridiclious.. Please don't bother showing me the scripture where in ACTS I know that one.. As far as I am concerned it is your heart not your baptism that GOd looks at..
MATT 28:18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the FATHER and of THE SON and of THE HOLY SPIRIT, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
by marielove on June 2nd, 2008
Chill marielove, the question asked what she believes and she answered. She's not trying to convert you, so show her the same respect.
by mysticdeliria on August 15th, 2008
look what you just put the scripture says in the name of! just one name that describes all three. Isiah 9:6 says Unto us a child is born and his name shall be called wonderful consular EVERLASTING FATHER. That's not word for word but Jesus is the everlasting Father. Just think of it this way if you have a child you're a father plus you have parents which means you're a son and finally we all have spirits but you can't just use any name. Acts 4:12 says Jesus is the only name given among men where by we must be saved. ephesians 4:5 says One Lord one Faith one baptism. The apostles baptized in either the name of jesus or the lord jesus christ. You can not baptize in the titles titles mean nothing. Sarah you are very right explaining the Apostolic Doctorine. What church do you go to? I go to Heritage Apostolic : )
by wjthorn on December 26th, 2008
I hesitate to comment because I do not want to debate. The question was, "What is the apostolic religion? What are their beliefs?" Apostolic's, the largest being the United Pentecostal Church (not affliated with Pentecostals, other than the name), believe exactly what ss camaro stated. They are under a legalistic doctrine that adds to salvation by not only the words said over your baptism, but also that you must speak in tongues to show that you're saved (that's another topic that is not scriptural). This among other doctrines that they cling to, picking and choosing which ones must be obeyed by their tribe. They will tell you that you 'just got wet' if you were baptised any other way. Your baptism isn't valid, etc. When Jesus stated in Matt. 28:19 'in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit' the phrase 'in the name' means in the 'authority'.
in the name of, (dictionary.com)
a. with appeal to: In the name of mercy, stop that screaming!
b. by the authority of: Open, in the name of the law!
c. on behalf of: to purchase something in the name of another.
d. under the name or possession of: money deposited in the name of a son.
e. under the designation or excuse of: murder in the name of justice.
There were other baptisms at the time. Baptism of Moses; baptism as a Jew; baptism of John the Baptist, etc. What Jesus was trying to convey, although not a formula, was that we are baptised in the 'authority' of God almighty, no one else, through Jesus Christ the Son, giving glory to the Father. I believe that you should confess Jesus as your savior before or during baptism, but you are not saved by the words of someone else speaking over your baptism. Whether Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or in the name of Jesus... it is your heart that God knows, not the words of another speaking over you. That's bordering on Catholicism where a priest becomes your mediator. I'll leave it at that. If you'd TRULY like more information on the subject please visit christianchallenge.org or spiritualabuse.org as they have wonderful information and the scriptures to back it up.
by Gone! on June 25th, 2010
John 3:16 !! proves there is a GOD, who sent His SON -JESUS- & the holy spirit lives in your heart! So YEAH there are 3 different NAMES!!!!!! READ YOUR BIBLE! :P
by jmi94083657284 on August 20th, 2010
You all are right Matt28:19 does say to baptize in the Farther,the Son,and the Holy Ghost. Nonetheless this was when Jesus walked the earth. In Matt 16:19 says and I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven; Jesus is talking to Peter. Now when we turn to Acts 2:38 we read that Peter(the one Jesus gave the keys to) said to baptize in the name of the Jesus Christ.
This is what Jesus commands after His death, burial,and resurrection. For the sake of clarity can anyone give us a supporting scripture where after He resurrected He said to baptize in the Farther the Son and the Holy Ghost?.
The American Heritage College dictionary defines authority as the power to enforce laws; whats that Name again? P.S.I am aware that Peter was a disciple then apostle after Jesus resurrected.
by 4Given2 on August 23rd, 2010
Will someone give a scripture(s) where it says you have to speake in tongues to be saved?
by 4Given2 on September 7th, 2010
John 3:1-8
There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night, and said to Him, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with Him." Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God." Nicodemus said to Him, "How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?" Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, "You must be born again." the wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from or where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit." Nicodemus answered, "how can these things be?!" Jesus answered and said to Him, "Are you the teacher of Israel and you do not understand these things?"
by jenwag678 on September 14th, 2010
Sarah, I'm not trying to be an asshole when I say this but am saying so in an inquisitive manner. What about "Mathew 28:19"?
by BABC on September 25th, 2010
Can you explaine for me the following please:
1 Cor 8.6: There is only one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.
The bible was so clear that the father is God but you don't agree
Luke 3.21-22 records that Father, Son (Jesus), and Holy Spirit were all three present at the same event, at one and the same time. The event was the Baptism of Jesus....
Jesus was in the Jordan River, being baptized.
The Holy Spirit was descending upon Jesus.
The Father was speaking from Heaven.
This makes it clear that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three distinct persons.
Sarah, are you saying Jesus wasn't baptise correctly.
John 14.16-17 further records Jesus's promise that He would ask the Father to give us the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the Holy Spirit is distinct from both the Father and Jesus
Sarah, do you interprete this verse as Jesus promise that he would ask Jesus to give us Jesus.
You problably have difference verse to justify your statement but can you explain what Jesus meant on the three verse
by ccieandrew on November 21st, 2010
John 3:1-8 says nothing of speaking in tongues. This verse is used frequently by UPC and others to try and prove something... that's just not in this verse. Acts 2:38 is the main verse that they base all of their religion on. Some UPC and others actually add to the end of the verse... "as evidenced by speaking in tongues". Funny that some of those people, without checking their bibles, actually believe that's what the verse says. It is not. There isn't one verse in the bible that states you must speak in tongues for salvation, or that you must wear long skirts, and not cut your hair, and not wear makeup, or that men can't have beards, etc, etc... You can't pick and choose, or add to scripture to fit a doctrine. The ONLY way to be saved is faith and belief that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and by his sacrifice we have the opportunity to spend eternity in the presence of God.
by Gone! on November 29th, 2010
Tongues are a language of angels. Its another way to communicate to God. Lets take all our UPC vs any other organization vs the world out of all this and just use the Bible. I left some scriptures on tongues below.
Mark 16:17 “And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;”
Acts 2:3-4 “And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
”Acts 2:8 “And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?”
Acts 2:11 “Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.”
Acts 10:46 “For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,”1 Corinthians 14:2 “For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.”
by Sara_S2841 on March 28th, 2011
I still am not convinced that tongues are a gift for today, And if it is still a gift, then churches are using it incorrectly. They are not following the instructions given in 1 Cor, and they, like the church in Corinth should be corrected.
Mark 16:17 was not in the original manuscripts. However, even if it is added, we must note that not everyone that speaks in tongues will cast out demons, or those that cast out demons may not speak in tongues, etc. The gifts are given according to the Holy Spirit. We don't pick and choose which gifts are given. Not all will speak in tongues, not all will interpret, not all will prophesy, not all will teach, etc.
The tongues that were spoken in Acts were actual languages, not gibberish. There was no interpretation required for the hearers. Those that would use verses and say, see... they spoke in tongues when they were saved, so... for you to be saved you must speak in tongues- are not getting the big pictures. Usually the speaking in tongues was combined with another gift. However, there are many verses that mention the 3000 saved, the 5000 saved with no mention of tongues whatsoever. In addition, Romans tells us that we are saved when we confess with our mouth and believe in our heart that Jesus Christ is Lord. No mention of tongues whatsoever.
by Gone! on March 28th, 2011