Why do pro-abortion people say that a baby is not a person until it can live independently of the mother? does this also apply to other humans who are functional and productive but depend on a machine to live? and does that make it ok to "abort" them too?
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Interesting thought. I've always found it odd that it's not a person until it's born, or if the mother wanted the child - which is why someone who murders a pregnant woman can be charged with double murder.
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.avallach brought up a good point. If the baby isn't a person than how can a person be charged with 2 murders. and you make a good point. someone who is in a coma or not breathing on their own without help, should be "assist them to die". same thing. If we "assisted them to die"..we are murderers. but we kill babies and it's legal. am I reading your question right.?
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I've yet to hear that reasoning from a "Pro-Abortion" advocate, actually. The reasoning I have heard, is that (unlike people who are functional but dependent on machines), unborn babies are not conscious of their own death, nor apparently willful against it.
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i am pro-life. I understand what you are asking, though. I think that pro-lifers feel its more than deciding when a baby is a person. For me, its about deciding what you want for YOUR life and the life of the BABY. Its not about religion or god, for me. Some ppl say, "why not give it up for adoption?" but that is not always an option. #1 you get attached to the baby. #2 you put your body at risk. And, it takes 2 ppl to make a baby, but only 1 person carries the baby. We have rights to our bodies. Many complications come with pregnancy. I guess i could ask you the same question as you have just asked... why do you think its a person when it has not been born? is it religious reasons? if not, what? i am curious. mostly, b/c i cannot talk about abortion with ppl i know... b/c i dont like to argue... :-( sux that its such a sore subject... but i would like to know more about why ppl are so strongly supportive of anti-choice.
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My answer to this type of argument is that the decision is up to the people involved, and it is not my place to tell them what to believe. The US is a free country, and that means people are free to believe and pursue their beliefs without any interference. The arguments can be extended to the death penalty for murderers as well. My personal belief is that "life" is a privilege and not a right.
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I think a lot of its got to do with some not realizing that there is a soul there. But believe me. In time they will.
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I don't think that I've ever met anyone who is truly pro-abortion. I find that term offensive. The term is pro-choice because the woman must choose between the difficult choice of ending or continuing the pregnancy. The argument is really about whether the woman should have a choice or not. Your question implies that you feel that the woman should not be able to choose to abort the fetus if she feels that it is her best option. Where is the divide between human and not human? If science cannot determine this, do we want the judicial and legislative branches of the government to determine this? Maybe there should be a vote in various churches? Or maybe there should be some other arbitrary criteria. If the general population decided, the woman would likely be able to choose.
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Because some are ignorant and/or have a vested interest in the abortion industry. There is a lot of money to be made in preying upon desperate people with unplanned pregnancies. Many are well meaning and do not understand the cruel and abhorrent methods that are generally used to procure an abortion. It's not a matter of simply injecting the foetus with a needle and killing it outright - nearly all methods are messy and nasty.
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There are no "pro-abortion" people. This is a right-wing attack on pro-choice and planned parenthood. You're the victim of false information.
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Are you saying that the mother is merely a machine that the baby depends on to live? Does that mean the fetus has more rights than the mother? Personally I am pro education and free contraception. Both of which along with the morning after pill would eliminate the need for most abortions.
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