I'm no Christian/religious expert but I believe that God once said something to the effect that Jesus is as close as a physical embodiment of God that there ever will be. So I guess that means that they are two separate beings, but in a sense, the same spirit? I'm not sure, I guess it's how you interpret the line you quote.

I am Catholic so i hope that might answer is correct. God, Jesus, and the holy spirit are all one being. the divine trinity. The bible refers to Jesus as God's son for a way for humans on earth understand the trinity.

Because he is referring to him self as a part of God, as is everyone else, and all life, and God is eternal with no beginning or end. And so is all life.

Yes you are 100% correct.

At Revelation 22:13, the Alpha and Omega is also said to be “the first and the last,” which expression is applied to Jesus at Revelation 1:17, 18. Similarly, the expression “apostle” is applied both to Jesus Christ and to certain ones of his followers. But that does not prove that they are the same person or are of equal rank, does it? (Heb. 3:1) from the King James version: “3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus”. So the evidence points to the conclusion that the title “Alpha and Omega” applies to Almighty God, the Father, not to the Son.

By reading I understand this: John's visions from the angel that Jesus sent with God's Power.{ Rev.1:1}This is the book of Revelation. In Rev.22:10&11, John's visions are coming to an end. Rev.22:12-15 is God speaking for the last time in this book. Rev.22:16 is Jesus speaking as it says. Rev.22:17 is John SPEAKING. Jesus speaks again in Rev.22:18,19,20 and John ends in Rev.22:21

Just three points to bear in mind: 1 - This is not a Gospel account. It is a report of one individual of what he saw in private in his vision many years after the departure of Jesus. 2 - Nowhere in any of the NT Gospels is Jesus reported to have uttered the word "Alpha" or "Omega". 3 - It is not difficult to be the first and last. For those who believe in the virgin birth Jesus was the first and last to be born of a virgin.

Crist is the trinity. the father the son and the holy ghost. Therefore he is the alpha and omega.

Correct! He is.

ALPHA AND OMEGA These are the names of the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet and are used as a title three times in the book of Revelation. The additional occurrence of this phrase in the King James rendering of Revelation 1:11, however, does not receive support from some of the oldest Greek manuscripts, including the Alexandrine, Sinaitic, and Codex Ephraemi rescriptus. It is, therefore, omitted in many modern translations. While many commentators apply this title both to God and to Christ, a more careful examination of its use restricts its application to Jehovah God. The first verse of Revelation shows that the revelation was given originally by God and through Jesus Christ, hence the one speaking (through an angelic representative) at times is God himself, and at other times it is Christ Jesus. (Re 22:8) Thus Revelation 1:8 (RS) says: “‘I am the Alpha and the Omega,’ says the Lord God [“Jehovah God,” NW], who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Although the preceding verse speaks of Christ Jesus, it is clear that in verse 8 the application of the title is to “the Almighty” God. In this regard Barnes’ Notes on the New Testament (1974) observes: “It cannot be absolutely certain that the writer meant to refer to the Lord Jesus specifically here . . . There is no real incongruity in supposing, also, that the writer here meant to refer to God as such.” The title occurs again at Revelation 21:6, and the following verse identifies the speaker by saying: “Anyone conquering will inherit these things, and I shall be his God and he will be my son.” Inasmuch as Jesus referred to those who are joint heirs with him in his Kingdom as “brothers,” not “sons,” the speaker must be Jesus’ heavenly Father, Jehovah God.—Mt 25:40; compare Heb 2:10-12. The final occurrence of the title is at Revelation 22:13, which states: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” It is evident that a number of persons are represented as speaking in this chapter of Revelation; verses 8 and 9 show that the angel spoke to John, verse 16 obviously applies to Jesus, the first part of verse 17 is credited to “the spirit and the bride,” and the one speaking in the latter part of verse 20 is manifestly John himself. “The Alpha and the Omega” of verses 12-15, therefore, may properly be identified as the same one who bears the title in the other two occurrences: Jehovah God. The expression, “Look! I am coming quickly,” in verse 12, does not require that these aforementioned verses apply to Jesus, inasmuch as God also speaks of himself as “coming” to execute judgment. (Compare Isa 26:21.) Malachi 3:1-6 speaks of a joint coming for judgment on the part of Jehovah and his “messenger of the covenant.” The title “the Alpha and the Omega” carries the same thought as “the first and the last” and “the beginning and the end” when these terms are used with reference to Jehovah. Before him there was no Almighty God, and there will be none after him. He will bring to a successful conclusion the issue over Godship, forever vindicated as the one and only Almighty God.—Compare Isa 44:6.

(Eph 3:9) And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: To keep everything in context, you may want to read more.

If you really want an answer to your question about the devinity of Jesus, then here goes. The Trinity Trinity (definition) – That the Father, the Son (Jesus), and holy ghost are all together god, each eternal, each almighty, and none greater of less than the other. The belief that Jesus Christ is god, is based on the idea of the trinity. But if you take a look at the history of this teaching: First the word trinity or the teaching is never found in the bible. Also the Encyclopaedia Britannica says that the belief of the trinity or that Jesus was god or was part of god did not even exist until two to three hundred years after the death of Jesus. The Encyclopedia Americana says - “Fourth century Trinitarianism was a deviation from early Christian teaching.” This teaching was adopted into “Christianity” from pagan religions from Egypt, Babylon, from Hinduism, and even from the philosopher Plato that taught the trinity belief 400 years before Jesus. Finally the trinity became the central teaching of the church not because of the bible but because of the order of the Roman Emperor Constantine who was pagan himself. He really couldn’t care less about bible teachings but only wanted to end the debate between church leaders to keep unity in his kingdom. After he made that decision in the year 381, anyone that openly disagreed with the trinity were violently persecuted or killed with the permission of the church. Back to the Scriptures After that history lesson In reading the bibles record of Jesus, Jesus never claimed to be God or any part of God. Everything he said about himself indicated that he did not consider himself equal to God in any way – not in power, not in knowledge, or age. The bible calls Jesus “the only-begotten Son” of God (John 1:14; 1 John 4:9) - First off, John 1:18 – “No man has seen God at any time…” (The bible says no man has ever seen god but thousands saw and interacted with Jesus during his earthly life.) - God has no beginning and no end. Psalms 90:2 – “…even from time indefinite to time indefinite you are God.” But the bible says that Jesus was “the firstborn of all creation.” (Colossians 1:15) Also see (Revelation 3:14) Unlike God, Jesus was created and had a beginning. - Notice another scripture. When a man came to fall at Jesus’ feet and then called him “Good Teacher”, Jesus said to him at Mark 10:17, 18 “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.” (If Jesus himself was god would that statement make any sense? Jesus always directed any praise to god, not to himself.) - John 14:28 – “The Father is greater than I.” (Jesus talking) - 1 Corinthians 11:3 - “…the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (The bible always talks of God of being superior in power to Jesus.) - Philippians 2:6 – “…Jesus Christ, who, although he was existing in God’s form (as a spirit in heaven) gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” - Also 1 Timothy 2:5 Says that the disciples viewed Jesus as the “one mediator between God and men,” not as God himself. A mediator is obviously someone separate from those who need mediation, not part of one of the two parties that need mediation. ---That’s just a short list of the many accounts since I did want to make this to long--- But the bible is clear and consistent about the relationship of God to Jesus. Jesus Christ always distinguishes himself from God and showed that he never desired to be seen or worshipped as god. That he only wished to do the will of his father. Consider Psalms 83:18 – “That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the most high over all the earth.” Isaiah 12:2 – “Look! God is my salvation. I shall trust and be in no dread; for Jah Jehovah is my strength and my might, and he came to be the salvation of me.” Jesus stressed the importance of his father’s name at John 17:26 – “I have made your name known to them and will make it known.” Even in Jesus model prayer: - Matthew 6:9 – “YOU must pray, then, this way: “Our Father in the heavens let your name be sanctified…” Another thing Many people don’t know that when they say Hallelujah, it means “praise Jah” short for Jehovah. Even Jesus’ name itself means “Jehovah is Salvation” The mother of the prophet Moses was named Jochebed, which means “Jehovah Is Glory” The prophet Joel in the bible, his name means, “Jehovah is God” The prophet Elijah in the bible name means “My God Is Jehovah” Isaiah’s name means “Salvation of Jehovah” Hezekiah, Josiah, Nehemiah, Obadiah, Zechariah and Zephaniah all are well-known Bible names whose meanings involve Jehovah, or Jah, the shorter poetic form of Jehovah’s name. Even many people’s names today have Jehovah in their meaning: Johnson means “Jehovah has favored” The name Jonathan means, “Jehovah has given” Joshua means, “Jehovah is salvation” or “Jehovah rescues” Jacqueline, Jackie, Jacquelyn, John and Jack means, “Jehovah has been gracious” Chanya means “The Grace of Jehovah” Kayla means “Jehovah has given” Joey means "Jehovah increases" Jesse means “Jehovah exists” Jeremiah and Jeremy means “appointed by Jehovah” Josiah means “Jehovah supports” Joe or Joesph means “May Jehovah give increase” Jane, Jan, Janelle, Janet, Janice, Janie, Janine, Joan, Joanne, Jodie, Joni, Jonie, Joanna, Johannah all are variations that mean “Jehovah is gracious” One last thing: Also remember that “god” is not a name, it’s a title. Just like “boy” or “king”, “God” and “Lord” are titles, “God” is anything you choose to worship. Your money can be your “God”, your possessions can be a “God”, but the only God the bible points to is Jehovah, God’s name. ---Explanation of pictures--- -The "Christian" Trinity was just a pagan befief that was incorporated into the church hundreds of years after Christ. The pictures are of the Hundu trinity, then the ancient Egyptian trinity, and finally the "Christian" trinity. -An ancient painting of the scene in Nicaea when Emperor Constantine made his decision-

Yeah - of course. He is God.

Certainly does. Only God is the beginning and end of ALL things.

Yes, they are one, as is the Holy Ghost. He is the third part of the Trinity.

okay last answer rated unhelpful....(?) He IS God - what I mean is that he is part of the Holy Trinity. My interpretation of the question was that it was questioning this, as in "Jesus is the SON of God". However, for me, in its most simple form: the power of the Holy Trinity means that (although this is a hard concept to deal with) that he is both GOD and the SON OF GOD. Hopefully that explains my previous (admittedly short!) answer! :-)

I didnt know Jesus was the Greek Alphabet, maybe Jesus was a Greek, but Mithras of Persian was also proclaimed Alpha and Omega and he was a sun god, and greek god "Apollo" another sun god was also proclaimed "Alpha and Omega" Alpha is the First Letter Omega is the Twenty Forth Letter in greek Gematria Alpha is 1 Omega is 800 Alpha is connected to Moon Omega can mean great Great Moon in hebrew alpha and omega would be Aleph and Ayin Ayin means Eye Aleph mean truth Alpha and omega may mean Truth Eye, or true accounts meaning when jesus said he is alpha and omega he is telling the truth from eye point of view "theory"

strangely enough a similair story was told in the Egyptian book of the Dead which just so happens to pre-date both Judiasn AND Christianity. Quel signifie pour ton Dieu?

"And Peter said,'Lord, show us the Father and we will be content.' Jesus looked at him and replied, 'Have I been with you this long and you do not yet know me, Peter?'" John 10:30 "I and the Father are one." This is one of the enduring mysteries of the faith. How can Jesus be both man and God, or is he simply taking poetic license to make a point? I honestly don't know, but it's fun to speculate about.

Jesus is God (John 10:30)

God said in OT...HE was a jealous God and that there was only one Saviour, HIM!!! HE does not like speculation or not being able to decide...see Job when he told him to STAND UP! and questioned him.... Jesus was God in the FLESH.... God is Jesus and the Holy Spirit....3 personalities...With HIM all things are possible and HE works sometimes in mysterious ways...amen

This is my own guess. I know nothing of the New or Old testament. This is based on my spiritual beliefs. I think that we are all one with God. That does not mean we are God but God is inside/outside all of us. Therefore because we are one with God (Godlike) we are part of the Alpha and the Omega. A minester friend of mine explained it this way. If you think of one drop of water from the ocean that drop is part of the ocean. It is one with the ocean. However it is not as vast or as powerful as the entire ocean.

A close examination of the scriptures wherein the phrase "alpha and omega" and "the beginning and the end" appear reveals that they are being applied to the One that Jesus referred to as "my God," (Revelation 2:7; 3:2,7, World English) the One whom the Lamb (Jesus) approached to take the scroll (Revelation 5:7), and not to Jesus. Some translations, such as the King James Version, have Jesus applying the phrase "Alpha and Omega" to himself in Revelation 1:11. However, the phrase "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:", as it appears in the King James Version, is missing from most modern translations, and most scholars agree that this phrase in this verse is an interpolation. No other verse has any clear indication of application of "Alpha and Omega" to Jesus. Jesus does apply the phrase "the first and the last" to himself in Revelation 1:17 and Revelation 2:8. However, since he says that the first and last "was dead, and has come to life," he could hardly be claiming that this expression as meaning that he was God Almighty. In other words, if, by referring to himself as "the first and the last," Jesus was saying that he was God Almighty, then we can only conclude that God Almighty "was dead." Most who claim that Jesus is God Almighty claim that the alleged "God-Jesus" did not die, but that only the human Jesus died, while the alleged God Jesus kept on living. Such an application cannot be made toward Jesus' usage of "the first and the last" in Revelation 1:17,18 or in Revelation 2:8, since in both cases, Jesus refers to the death of "the first and the last." Obviously, the expression "the first and the last," as Jesus applies this term to himself, does not mean the alleged "God nature" of Jesus as defined by trinitarians and some others, since the alleged "God nature" of Jesus is supposed not to have died at all, but is supposed to have continued in life while it is claimed that only the human body of Jesus died. In reality, all of these 'dualistic' suppositions concerning Jesus having "two natures" at once have to be added to and read into the scriptures, and, additionally, these added on suppositions actually deny what Jesus stated in Revelation 2:8. Jesus, however, connects his being "the first and the last" to his death and resurrection. Jesus stands alone as being the first and last human to be sinless, with a body prepared by God (Hebrews 10:5), born into a world of sin, yet who maintained full obedience, and thus having the right to live forever as a human being, nevertheless, giving himself in sacrificial death for all the rest of mankind. He is the first and the last to do this. Such a life and sacrifice will never again be needed. All others who receive everlasting life receive their life through Jesus as the last Adam (Romans 5:21; 1 Corinthians 15:21,22,45; Hebrews 7:25; 1 John 4:9), not directly from the only true God, the God and Father of Jesus. Ronald http://godandson.reslight.net

John 14:9 - Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you such a long time, and do you not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How do you say, 'Show us the Father?' Jesus no where calls himself "God" above, so one has to add such a thought to what is written. I can see how a "oneness" believer might use this verse to support the idea that Jesus is his Father, but I have never seen any trinitarian explanation as to how this verse is supposed to prove that Jesus is Yahweh. Actually, of course, Jesus was not claiming to be his God nor his Father, but rather that his God and Father could be seen in him, through his words and through his works, which were done in the name of his God and Father, Yahweh, which agrees with the rest of the scriptures. No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God [THEOS, mighty one] who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him. -- John 1:18, New American Standard Version. (NAS) John was not saying that Jesus was the Supreme Being whom no one had seen, but rather that Jesus was a mighty one begotten by the only true Supreme Being, and that Jesus explained the only true Supreme Being. -- John 17:3. John 4:34 - Jesus said to them, "My food is to do the will of him who sent me, and to accomplish his work." -- World English (WEB) Who sent Jesus? -- Isaiah 61:1 - Yahweh ... has sent me. (WEB) John 9:4 - I must work the works of him who sent me. (WEB) Who sent Jesus? "Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers, like me; to him you shall listen." -- Deuteronomy 18:15 (WEB). John 10:32 - Jesus answered them, "I have shown you many good works from my Father. For which of those works do you stone me?" John 14:10 - I speak not from myself; but the Father living in me does his works. -- Whose words did Jesus speak? "Yahweh said... I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him." -- Deuteronomy 18:17,18 (WEB). John 10:25 - The works that I do in my Father's name, these testify about me. -- In whose name did Jesus perform his works? -- "Yahweh said... whoever will not listen to my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him." -- Deuteronomy 18:17,18 (WEB) When Jesus said: "He who has seen me has seen the Father," did he mean that everyone who saw him walking around on earth had seen the Father? No, because he also had earlier said to the unbelieving Jews: "The Father himself, who sent me, has testified about me. You have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his form." (John 5:37) And again in John 8:19: "You know neither me, nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also." So Jesus could not have been speaking of seeing the Father in him by physical eyes, but rather by means of the eyes of comprehension. This indicates that Jesus meant that if his disciples had seen him, that they also had seen his Father, since Jesus did the works of his Father. (John 8:38) As John said: "No one has seen God at any time. The one and only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him." (John 1:18) And Jesus also had said: "Therefore everyone who hears from the Father, and has learned, comes to me. Not that any man has seen the Father, except he who is from God. He has seen the Father." -- John 6:45,46. However, Jesus in the context does tell us what he meant when he said that he who had seen him had seen the Father also: "Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I tell you, I speak not from myself; but the Father living in me does his works." (John 14:10) Rather than claiming to be God Almighty, he is saying that he spoke the words of God Almighty his Father, and thus in this manner the Father could be seen in him. This is in harmony with the prophecy that Yahweh would put his words into his mouth, and that he would speak in Yahweh's name. -- Deuteronomy 18:15-19. Jesus was stating in John 14:9 that he so reflected the Father's character, that to observe and learn of him was tantamount to observing and learning of the Father. Literally, of course, "no man has seen God at any time". -- John 1:18; 1 John 4: 12; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Colossians 1:15. Christian love, Ronald http://godandson.reslight.net

for ME ,no trinity, the word is nowhere to be found..only that they are 1... Jesus had to keep it quiet for as long as HE could, till he time came, that HE was the Messiah...satan would have loved to see Jesus killed before time!!!!you see what happened when the devils children found out HE was our Saviour!!!!can you imagine if HE had walked around saying HE was God???God told us HE would send us Immanuel(GOd among us) , and HE did, HIM...HE told us through the Jews repeatedly, there was only ONE REDEEMER, HIM...HE does not LIE....

Maybe this can help clear it up.. 1 Corinthians 8:5,6 Read this verse a few times.. "For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." This shows the Distinction between both the Father and the Son..when talking about them together. Jesus was at a time called mighty god.. as some said earlier in this post but never God Almighty...Satan also was called a god in the Bible..of this system.. meaning - 'the world'.. does this make him equal to God/Father.....of course not.