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If we were going to propose a new amendment to the constitution, what would be the most needed amendment and what are the pros and cons of it?

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by Tater on Aug 2, 2008 at 11:55 am Permalink

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I would like to eliminate the Presidential Electoral College vote. We live in an age where we can count each person's vote and the college "voters" do not have to vote the will of the people. I also think the Presidential and Vice Presidential election should be separate. We have had some lame veeps because no Prez candidate will bring on a mate that will be better than he/she.
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Avatar Glenn Blaylock Nov, 08 2009 at 08:11 AM
I never said that the majority don't want a reform of the healthcare system. (I have many times proposed reforms that I think would go a long way to reducing costs and making healthcare more accessible.) However, a majority don't want THIS reform and the numbers of people who don't want it are growing.
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You and I are probably never going to agree. So, I would say that it is time to agree to disagree and let it go at that.
Avatar Slightly less anonymous Nov, 08 2009 at 01:06 PM
OK. But I'd bet the farm that a majority don't know what this reform contains. Tell me, do you read the bills that Congress is looking at? Proposed amendments? Do you even read the full text of propositions that you vote on?
 
And even if we suddenly got a well informed public, I doubt we'd get a majority. There are so many ways of reform, and the spectrum is so large, that there are going to be people who like most of the bill but want A, or B. Or want C removed. To get a majority on a specific bill, things would have to be dire enough for enough people, that they stop sticking on points that are only sticking points in theory. If they really understood that no reform would happen if they didn't let IT go, IT wouldn't be a sticking point. But we're not there yet, things aren't that bad. Not yet.
 
Congress's job is to pass a bill that is mostly ok to most people. If every person got a hand at amending bills, we'd never pass anything. As it is, Congress moves slowly enough.
Avatar Slightly less anonymous Nov, 08 2009 at 01:16 PM
And you're right, we probably won't agree on much of anything. And I'm fine with agreeing to disagree. But we agree on a lot too. We just pick out what we disagree with to argue about and don't mention the things we do agree on. Because what's the fun in that?

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by Glenn Blaylock on Sep 14, 2009 at 6:32 pm Permalink

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There are a number of things that I would like to see enshrined in amendments.

First of all, I would like to see term limits for the members of Congress. Too many of them are making a career out of it and I think that spending that much time in Washington, they lose touch with what it is really like for the rest of us. I think that I would like to see both houses limited to three terms with the option to run again after sitting out for one full term.

Second, I would like the line item veto given to the President. This would make it a lot easier to strip the pork out a budget.

It seems to me that there were others, but I can't think of them right now.
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I just remember the other amendment that I would like to see. I would eliminate the winner take all system that most states have for their electors. Instead, I would prefer the electors awarded for the House districts be chosen according to how their districts vote. As it is, in a state like California, those who live in rural areas are pretty much disenfranchised by Los Angeles and the Bay Area because those two areas tend to dominate the elections. If you take a look at the maps from the last election ( http://www-personal.umich.edu/.../...predbluer1024.png http://www-personal.umich.edu/.../...predbluer1024.png ), you can see how much of the country was not really represented by the election results.

One of the main reasons for the electoral college was to insure that Presidential candidates could simply ignore the smaller states when campaigning. However, the winner take all system creates a different inequality. It makes it possible for Presidential candidates to simply focus on urban population center and ignore rural areas. By apportioning representation in the college according to how the Congressional districts vote it would prevent the urban areas from dominating a state's delegation.
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Avatar Slightly less anonymous Nov, 01 2009 at 01:05 PM
One last thing, because I'm not going to waste my time going through every president--you want to learn from history you can learn how to read yourself.
 
 
Elections work. You don't like our leaders? You don't like our voting system? Or how uninformed people are? Or some other part of the system? Then do something about it. Start by saying something about it. Do I see problems? Damn straight I do. But I don't see any problems that term limits are the solution to. And the things you've been complaining about-I don't see how term limits help. So complain. Tell me what the problems are. Tell me why term limits are the solution. Do SOMETHING. Don't just repeat term limits over and over again. Then you sound like a duck. And we have more than enough of those to go around.
 
History is great. Learn from it. I get being jaded and assuming life doesn't change. But assuming you know what happened when it's at your fingertips? When you can look? The point of history is to learn
Avatar Factotum Nov, 02 2009 at 05:40 PM
What do you have to say about the Congressional fiefdoms and the uneven distribution of power that comes from the seniority system? Does the fact that certain Congressmen wield special bill-crushing power not fly in the face of the whole idea of representation by state and by populace?
Avatar Slightly less anonymous Nov, 02 2009 at 06:42 PM
Ok...I feel like a teacher pulling teeth trying to get a student to make an argument. Pretend you're writing a paper, or trying talking to someone who knows nothing about this. You can't just make a statement and assume that from that, everything, including your position is obvious and falls into place.
 
But, you've started. You've finally made a complaint. I'm not going to argue over the validity of it or whether or not I agree. Pretend it's true, absolutely factual--it IS a problem. Now, how will term limits help? How will they stop this from happening? Make your case. Go for it. Give me the complaint. In detail. Tell me what's wrong, tell me why, and tell me why and how term limits will fix this problem. Tell me why they are the best fix for the problem. Then, then I'll respond. But until you do that, you're just spastically throwing out complaints and half arguments. There's nothing to argue against, no one to debate with until you do this. Go ahead. Make your case.

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by Moongrim on Sep 15, 2009 at 4:37 am Permalink

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The "Put your money where your mouth is" Amendment.

You want a war- you're the first on the front line.

You want your church to run things? They're liable to pay their fair share of taxes, and they're liable to fund any mistakes made.

Essentially- you wanna change things- you get to pay for it, personally.
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Avatar Moongrim Oct, 06 2009 at 04:46 PM
And what pray tell do THOSE have to do with Constitution Amendments?
Or are we getting huffy?
Avatar Glenn Blaylock Oct, 07 2009 at 06:33 AM
Have you or have you not supported those initiatives? If I remember correctly, you have supported them. So, in light of your proposed amendment, you should have to pay for them.
Avatar Bob Oct, 16 2009 at 07:56 AM
A-A-A-A-A-A-MEN!!!!!! you're on to something moongrim!

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by ExactlyTwentyLetters on Oct 16, 2009 at 7:40 am Permalink

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I would like to see an amendment that decriminalized all vice-laws. Our prisons are filled with non-violent offenders that cost our country millions. These people need medical rehabilitation, not incarseration.
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Avatar Slightly less anonymous Nov, 01 2009 at 01:29 AM
doesn't belong in the constitution

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by purplecows on Oct 6, 2009 at 3:22 pm Permalink

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When a statute is declared/found unconstitutional, the Legislators who voted for it are permanently disqualified from holding office.
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Avatar Bob Oct, 16 2009 at 07:53 AM
interesting!!!!

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by wheaten on Sep 4, 2006 at 11:49 am Permalink

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I would think that to go to war would require a vote of american people so by popular vote, americans would decide if they wanted to engage in war over in another country.
Pros being that the majority of americans would decide to make that investment and not a few sitting in Washington that never send their own kids to war.
Cons would be in attaining the popular vote. The constitution was written to allow an amendment by popular vote as it is written for the people and the people's voice rule the course. It would have been more impossible to do years ago but with the technology we have today, the people could vote and the majority rule.
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Avatar Ron C Sep, 14 2009 at 05:26 PM
Good idea. Congress is supposed to declare war but can obviously be talked into it by a devious president.
Avatar purplecows Oct, 06 2009 at 03:16 PM
investment?
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"hey, let's go kill thousands of people, including our own kids, there's money in it"
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"naw, let's not, there's not enough money in that war ... but how about this one?"
Avatar Ron C Oct, 06 2009 at 04:56 PM
Sarcastic but it is a pretty good word picture of the process.

Answer 7 out of 27

by Kat on Oct 16, 2009 at 1:03 pm Permalink

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A most needed amendment should be same-sex partner marriages should be allowed in all States. I am not gay but I do not see why some people should be regarded as 'less'.
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by MrJosh on Oct 16, 2009 at 7:34 am Permalink

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Corporations are not persons. They have no rights, only privledges. They are dissoved after 100 years.
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Elections are publicly funded. Senators and members of congress have term limits. Lets say 20 years for a senator and 10 years for a representative.
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Answer 9 out of 27

by purplecows on Oct 8, 2009 at 2:22 pm Permalink

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Everytime a new law is passed, an old one must be repealed
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by Will on Aug 2, 2008 at 12:24 pm Permalink

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Term limits.
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