To the 30% of America that still supports the war in Iraq, I have a question. Would you be willing to support the war fiscally, and just leave the rest of us (the ones who don't believe in unjustified wars) out of paying the trillion dollar bill?

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• excellent response.....take my points

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  by COMMON SENSE on January 30th, 2008

• I couldn't have said it better myself.

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  by Anonymous on March 19th, 2008

• Public education is something that HAS had use for you, or else you would not be typing this. If programs that benefit EVERYONE were funded by tax dollars that you cannot decide on, and let us decide where the rest goes, this country would find their priorities shifting a great deal.

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  by Keysha on March 19th, 2008

• And who decides what programs benefit EVERYONE? I mean, there are a lot of programs that some POLITICIAN WITH A PERSONAL AGENDA decided benefits everyone that benefits me not at all. Affirmative Action is a good example.

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  by Anonymous on March 19th, 2008

• By the numbers. If more than 75% of the people in the United States uses, has used, or will use it significantly in their lifetime, it is a public benefit.

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  by Keysha on March 19th, 2008

• And what of those 25% who will NEVER use it? They shouldn't have to pay for something they never use.
  
  Under your definition, nothing would change.

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  by Anonymous on March 19th, 2008

• You are trying circular arguments. You asked how the programs would be decided. Under that simple formula, the top four places for funding would be social security, health care, education, and public works, like police, firemen, and road commissions. The four most UNDERFUNDED of all.

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  by Keysha on March 19th, 2008

• Affirmative action is a bad thing?
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  AdmiralSirJohn, have you ever been discriminated against?
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  I have.
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  My people are not part of affirmative action... we are ignored. I would LIKE to have us be part of any efforts to stop the bigotry against us but that is not going to happen.
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  The only reason I can think of that you would NOT support affirmative action is that you have never faced discrimination and do not care about those of us who have.
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  That must be nice.

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  by Arisztid on March 19th, 2008

• I have been discriminated against specifically BECAUSE of affirmative action.

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  by Anonymous on March 19th, 2008

• Read my answer here: http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/630048
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  ... then come back and complain about how bad you have it. Please pay attention to the job issue. I have been turned down for more jobs than I can count just because I am a Gypsy. They get a hard look in their face and you know you do not have the job.
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  I know of someone who was fired within a day of admitting to being 1/4 Gypsy. A friend of his quit over it and the boss taunted her about supporting his "filthy friend". This happened less than a week ago.

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  by Arisztid on March 19th, 2008

• ... her "filthy friend" I mean.
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  I know of someone who worked at a gas station for a long time. A couple of Gypsy women came in and he was chatting with them.
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  The boss asked if he knew them. He told the boss that they were his cousins. The boss asked what HE was... he said he was a Gypsy.
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  The boss said he did not need to come to work tomorrow. The guy said "ok, I could use a day off". The boss said to never come back again.
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  Need I go on? I could fill you with these stories, both my personal ones and those of my friends.
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  Oh, all of this goes on in AMERICA.

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  by Arisztid on March 19th, 2008

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• I believe that history reveals truth. Look back on history, no empire has ever fallen because of military means, but rather internal economic means. This normally includes a small war that bleeds a country dry. Take a look at the soviets for example. Staying in Iraq costs us trillions of dollars, money that we cannot afford to spend.
  
  
  
  "Hold on, let me see if I can get this straight. We need to borrow ten billion dollars from China, Then we give it to Musharaff, who's a military dictator, who overthrew an elected government. Then we go to war, we lose all these lives, promoting democracy in...Iraq?"
  
  
  
  -Ron Paul

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  by JTP on March 19th, 2008

• Would you rather see bodies in the streets of America?
  
  You're trying to equate money with lives, which can never be done. In today's dollars, both world wars cost just as much as what we're doing in Iraq, yet NOBODY ever said those wars were for nothing. They knew that we were fighting for nothing less than the lives of the entire world.
  
  So it costs a lot of money. News flash: wars ARE expensive. But cowardice, which is exactly what you are advocating, costs far more.

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  by Anonymous on March 19th, 2008

• I believe in helping the homeless. I believe in providing medical care for all Americans. I believe in funding schools. I believe in spending American money on AMERICANS, not on some stupid, useless war.
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  I do not believe that we should have been there in the first place and I do not believe we should be there now.

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  by Arisztid on March 19th, 2008

• bush's war is not worth my life, nor any lives of those already lost. Nor worth one cent of my money

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  by DiSTurBiA on March 19th, 2008

• Then I fear for us all...

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  by Anonymous on March 19th, 2008

• Given that the public reason for this war was 9/11, it makes the entire thing a joke. 9/11 was due to Osama Bin Laden, a person who leads a terrorist organization in Afghanistan. NOT Iraq. When this war started, it was said that it was a grudge war for GW. I agree.
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  And the sad part is, the longer this fiasco drags on, the more likely that it will end up another Viet Nam.

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  by Keysha on March 19th, 2008

• Bush's war is not worth my life, is not worth the lives of any American, is not worth the suffering caused by the only-the-Gods knows-how-much-money-is-being-blown-over-there has caused.
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  We have people starving right here in America. We have people dying from lack of healthcare right here in America... I am one of them. Keysha is not dying from it but she lives in agony every day due to not having medical care.
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  I do not want this war, I never wanted this war, but I am PAYING for this war.
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  This disaster is going to be another Vietnam.

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  by Arisztid on March 19th, 2008

• already is Vietnam 2. Bush just simply wanted to fuck this country over, then leave and rake in the money from the oil he's taking.

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  by DiSTurBiA on March 19th, 2008

• "You're trying to equate money with lives, which can never be done." Bullshit. The trillion dollars spent in Iraq could be used to provide first class healthcare for every person in America, stop those with cancer and aids from dying, at least 100k lives a year, at LEAST. You'll find that I can very easily equate money to lives.
  
  It's not being a coward my friend, it's being intelligent. Would you rather see America slip down, when the bubble bursts and our monetary system falls? When our system of credit falls and all this money we owe to china is wanted back? Where we wont be able to even afford to defend ourselves, much less wage war on citizens of a country we had no right to invade?

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  by JTP on March 19th, 2008

• I believe that, since you, AdmiralSirJohn, are oh so in favor of this, that YOU should pay MINE and KEYSHA's medical bills. I think that everyone who is supporting this should pay for those of us who are going without due to the war, including those who are turned away by DSS because the States they live in are bankrupt. The great State of Michigan is in a dire depression.
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  People are dying out here.

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  by Arisztid on March 19th, 2008

• By the time this fiasco is done, America is going to be in a full on Depression, not a Recession. Personally, I believe that we already ARE in a Depression.
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  America... take care of those within your OWN borders!

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  by Arisztid on March 19th, 2008

• Actually if you look closely at the great depression, and now, you see some very startling similarities. Our economy is based on a system of credit-like the '30s, we're bleeding money out the ass on maintaining an empire-like the '30s (though the '30s was mostly latin america), and the bubbles starting to burst-like the '30s. It's actually rather depressing.

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  by JTP on March 19th, 2008

• I fully and truly believe we are in a Depression and that we are heading into a Great Depression. I am sitting in Michigan which, at last time I heard, has 50,000 residents unemployed and that is an OLD number. It is getting steadily worse.
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  The State is bankrupt... literally. They are turning families away that are begging for help. There are people here with Master's degrees applying for menial labor.

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  by Arisztid on March 19th, 2008

• great........because of dubya's war mongering we are all fucked. UGGGGGH! WE COULD'VE GOTTEN RID HIM IN 04!!!!!!!!!! Hell circumvented i think everything due to electing AlGore, just like the episode of family guy where peter goes back in time.

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  by DiSTurBiA on March 19th, 2008

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• Your right, you didn't answer the question at all. The point was, this is not a needed war, this is not a required war, this is an unjustified war. If you really support it, why not offer to let you and those like you pay for it instead of letting the government sink deeper and deeper into debt?

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  by JTP on January 29th, 2008

• I didn't say I support the war at all. I just pointed out that you cant decide which taxes you going to pay and witch ons your not going to pay. The way we determine how the money is spent is by voting for people that believe in spending the revenue on things you believe in.

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  by Tempter on January 29th, 2008

• I never asked anyone to exempt others from paying for the war, I asked if those supporting it would willingly take on the burden of paying for it themselves. IE volunteer to do so.

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  by JTP on January 29th, 2008

• If the 30% are willing to volunteer to pay for it. Then wouldn't the other 70% then not be paying for it? I don't understand your argument.

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  by Tempter on January 29th, 2008

• Of course they wouldn't be paying for it, but your saying those that don't want to pay don't have the right to slide responsibility of paying taxes. I agree, However if the 30% volunteer, it's not a slide of responsibility, but rather letting those that volunteer pay.

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  by JTP on January 29th, 2008

• That leads back to my original point. Who would like to volunteer to pay for welfare, should only people with kids pay for education? The way to cherry pick how the money is spent is by voting. The best side doesn't always win unfortunately.

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  by Tempter on January 29th, 2008

• Once again, I wasn't asking on the basis of other things such as welfare, I asked IF YOU SUPPORT IT, WILL YOU PAY FOR IT. I didn't ask about other circumstances, nor about other issue.

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  by JTP on January 29th, 2008

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• Well, your answer demonstrates why we don't get to pick. First we would have to have everybody educated enough to make responsible decisions.

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  by Kteachers Pet on February 2nd, 2008

• That was the point in my answer...We do not get to pick directly, We pick through our vote...I hope you are not suggesting that the items in my last statement are due being "uneducated" on these subjects. I am tired of hearing that opposing views are due to ignorance or not being educated on these issues..

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  by designer is wearing a ....... on February 2nd, 2008

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