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Conversion means "changing direction". It is a heart decision not one of convenience. It might seem the logical and most easy thing to do, but, believe me, I have seen many people regret such decisions later. I would wait and see how the relationship develops. I would also be investigating the beliefs deeply to see whether you can believe them. It is no use just signing on, if you don't believe it.
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I think that you will most likely 'have' to convert if you expect his family to accept you. Many LDS only marry within their religion. With that said, I think that you need to seriously take some time to think about this. To me, my spiritual beliefs are very important to me and an integral part of who I am. I could never make a life commitment to someone who expected me to sacrifice that part of myself.
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No. You should only convert if you actually agree with the religion and believe in it. If you decide to convert for convenience, then I would go as far as to say you are being foolish in order to get acceptance. That's not a good way to live. You need your own opinions, values, and beliefs. If you happen to share all these things in common with someone else, that's cool. If you don't, then don't singlehandedly force their religion down your own throat. That's not cool. In the end, it's your decision.
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Do not change you religion for a boyfriend
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Please read this before jumping out of the "Pan" & "Into the Fire"! U probably have the most common type of Love called "Lust" that causes "Severe Blindness" and shuts down the "Reasoning Center" of the "Mind"!!! So what we have to say here is Purley a "Labor of Love" as U have Already made up Ur mind & just want Us to "Bless" U actions!!! Oh well! Enjoy! John DOCTRINE OF RIGHT MAN AND RIGHT WOMAN A. The right woman is the oldest and one of many grace gifts to man. 1. There are three prominent grace gifts from Christ to man delineated in Scripture, and these are the order in which they occur in the human race: a. Right woman, He built her, Prov 18:22, 19:13-14. b. Salvation, He did it. c. Doctrine, He thought it, 1 Cor 2:16. 2. In all of human history, right woman is the oldest human gift, for Christ brought the woman to the man, Gen 2:18. 3. The fall of man did not change their relationship. B. Attacks on the gift of right man/right woman. 1. Reversionism, especially phallic reversionism is an attack on the concept of right man/right woman. 2. Life in the cosmic system is an attack on right man/right woman. 3. All mental attitude sins attack right man/right woman, SOS 8:6, 8; Prov 27:4, 6:34. 4. Negative volition to doctrine is an attack on right man/right woman, Jer 15:8-9, 15-21, 16:1-2, 17:9-11, 12:7-9. Negative volition to doctrine destroys right man/right woman relationship. 5. Scripture: Prov 5, 6:20-32; 1 Cor 11:3-16; Jer 31:22; Eccel 7:26-29. 6. No disaster, pressure, or unfaithful act, can destroy personal love between a right man and a right woman. 7. The greatest attack on right man/right woman comes from the soul: scar tissue of the soul, emotional revolt of the soul, and reversionism. These attacks are accompanied by fornication and promiscuity. C. Perversions of Right Man/Right Woman. 1. Auto-erotism, masturbation, or self-response to self. 2. Homosexuality or lesbianism, Lev 18:22; Rom 1:26-27. 3. Bestiality, Lev 18:23. 4. Fornication, Ex 20:14; Prov 5:20, 6:32. D. Analogies of Right Man/Right Woman. 1. Right man/right woman is used to teach many types of doctrine since it is one of the most common relationships to the human race. 2. The Lord and Israel, Jer 2, 3, 13; Ezek 16, 23. 3. The Lord and the Church, Eph 5:26-33. 4. Operation Z, James 1:19-22. 5. Christ, the shepherd and bishop of the believer's soul, 1 Pet 2:25 cf 1 Pet 3:1. 6. The mature believer is the glory of God, 1 Cor 11:7. E. Right Man/Right Woman Related to the Laws of Divine Establishment. 1. Monogamy is designed to remind the human race that there is only one right man for one right woman and visa versa, 1 Cor 7:2-4. 2. Under these laws marriage becomes the second divine institution. 3. Marriage is still the protection of romantic love, Heb 13:4; 1 Cor 7:9; 1 Tim 5:14; Rom 7:2-3; Gen 2:24-25; Eph 5:22, 25, 28, 31, 33. 4. Marriage forms the basis for stability in society, and rejects the theory and practice of anarchy, promiscuity, and communal living. 5. Marriage is also protected by the third divine institution, family, where parents have the responsibility of training their children. 6. The husband is the authority in the marriage, Eph 5:22. 7. God protects the woman from tyranny by the training of the little boy by his mother. His mother teaches the man respect for womanhood, and keeps him from becoming an animal. Prov 31:1-2. 8. Once the couple is married, the doctrine of right man/right woman no longer applies. Now it is a matter of honor, integrity, and impersonal love which must provide the power for the marriage to work. F. The Man and Woman's Relationship at the Fall. 1. After the Fall, God confirms the fact that the man's authority is not changed, even though he responded to the woman, Eph 3:16b, 5:22. 2. In Gen 3:6 we see the reversal of the roles of the man and woman in the Fall. 3. Until the Fall, sex had been a total pleasure and an experience of perfect happiness. After the Fall, a secondary role is added: it is the means of perpetuating the human race. Without children they had only themselves to consider. But with children a second authority develops of parents over children, and this develops problems and complications in the right man/right woman relationship. 4. Therefore, the woman bears the children, Gen 3:15, and through her comes Jesus Christ, Gen 3:16. G. The Recognition of Right Man/Right Woman. 1. Personal love is recognized by both parties. 2. Right man can always tell the mood of his right woman by her voice. The right man's soul will have a total understanding of the right woman's soul, emotions, moods, etc. 3. The right woman may love or hate her right man, but she cannot stop thinking about him. Right man/right woman can never be just friends. 4. You won't be adjusted to people until you find right man/right woman. 5. Every time right man is with right woman, it is a blessing to him. 6. The man cannot work to get his right woman; it is a grace gift from God. God always brings the right woman to the right man. Grace takes up the slack before you find right woman. Doctrine is your right woman until God leads her to you. You don't need to date others while waiting. 7. If a woman doesn't recognize God's authority, she will never recognize her right man's authority. Long hair on a woman is a sign of the right man's authority over her. Wearing long hair is a sign that a woman is waiting for her right man. 8. Your right woman will not react to you. Bitchiness in a woman is an indication of the wrong woman. 9. A wrong woman is always dressing to show off what she has physically. 10. With the right woman there is a period of waiting, resisting temptation, and a period of doubt before God brings the right woman to the right man. H. Right Man/Right Woman and the Soul Climax, 1 Cor 7:8-9. 1. When you find your right woman, physical compatibility is no problem; the difficulty is recognition in the soul. a. Right man/right woman are not ashamed or disappointed in each other physically. The right woman fits the right man perfectly in sex. The right woman's body is the most magnificent thing to the right man. b. You cannot make a woman your right woman by having sex with her. c. Right woman is a storm of passion when the right man makes love to her. When the right man makes love to his right woman, he satisfies her soul as well as her body. This gives her insatiability. The right man sees his right woman as personifying symmetry and beauty. d. Jesus Christ is the giver of sex as the total concept of happiness with one's right woman. e. Before your right woman comes along, you must have an affair with Bible doctrine by taking in doctrine every day until it becomes the love of your life. 2. When the right woman comes along, both will have a soul climax. a. Sexual burning is not a soul climax. This is an indication of wrong woman. Fornication excludes the soul, and therefore always produces wrong man/wrong woman. Shopping around is human viewpoint. b. The soul climax is the divine design of recognition of your right man or right woman. "Burning" has nothing to do with libido. It refers to when two souls have climaxed and are not yet able to make love because the two people are not yet married. No sex can compare with the sex between right man and right woman. c. Therefore, it is better to marry than to burn in personal love for right man or right woman after you have made the soul identification. The right man or right woman can make identification without touching. c. The right woman always emphasizes the soul of her right man when they first know each other. She is looking for his precious soul. The right man is the most precious thing to the right woman, but she emphasizes his soul and hunts for that soul. d. To recognize his right woman, the right man needs only to have the soul climax; no physical contact is necessary. There is no need for heavy necking before getting married. Heavy necking knocks out the ability of the right woman to recognize her right man via a soul climax. e. The soul climax is being out from soul control, because someone else so stimulates your soul. This is the only person who pulls you away from your own self-consciousness into being more aware of them than yourself. You become more thoughtful of them, interested in them, and more concerned and involved with them than yourself. f. A super-rapport develops where the two people cannot wait to share what has happened while they were apart. They enjoy conversation, and even their silence has super-rapport. g. Sex before marriage destroys your capacity to have a soul climax, Prov 6:32. Abstaining from fornication protects the soul, so that it can have a soul climax and the fantastic happiness Christ wants every member of the human race to have. God isn't trying to keep you from having fun, but from missing out on greater fun than Satan and his cosmic system can provide. h. Mentally this person becomes your frame of reference for everything. All memories are related to this person. Over a period of time your norms and standards change so that this person is the honorable one, while other people are insignificant. In your viewpoint, everything in life is related to that right man or right woman. From your volition, you adjust your life with pleasure to please your right partner. You dress to please them and omit things in life to please them. Your emotion has a fantastic response to them. i. If you are in emotional revolt of the soul, you cannot have a soul climax. j. The soul climax is that soul identification in every compartment of the essence of the soul, which stimulates total soul concentration on a member of the opposite sex. It is involuntary total soul concentration. k. Total involvement of the soul essence means that the climax of the soul as an identifier will cover every area of the soul except the old sin nature. l. The right man fulfills her norms and standards, principles, categories, provides soul stimulation, and gives reality to her romantic dreams. 3. The soul climax is the divine design for recognition of your right man or right woman. I. Identification of the Right Woman, Prov 31:10-31. 1. Verse 10 says that your right woman will have certain things for you that she doesn't have for anyone else. The man must recognize her first and be aggressive to her. The man makes the identification first. 2. In verse 11, the right woman becomes a home to the right man. The heart of the man is at home with the right woman's soul. The right woman regards the right man as her lord. The right man's right lobe has confidence in her. This is called love-security of the soul. The right woman won't flirt, tease, or think about some other guy. She is totally occupied with him when he is absent. 3. In verse 12, the right woman will do good to the right man, show him good, and cause him good. 4. In verse 13, the right woman makes decisions to please her right man. The right woman dresses only to please her right man. Her soul is so occupied with him that she is motivated to always appear in clothing he appreciates. She searches diligently to find clothes to impress him. She works with pleasure because it is for her right man. 5. Verse 14 says that she goes to extra effort to find things for her right man to please him, like his favorite food. 6. Verse 15 says that her mental attitude determines how things go around the house. The right woman places love for her right man above her own comfort and personal wants. 7. Verse 16 says that she pleases her right man in business, e.g., she is an aggressive business woman. 8. In verse 17, her soul and body are at his disposal. She responds to only her right man sexually, and anything goes. She encourages him with her arms. 9. In verse 18, anything she does related to her right man always tastes good to her. He always tastes good to her. She is stimulated by him and in a state of perfect human happiness. 10. In verse 19, her hands are occupied with those things which bless him. She gives him no cause for concern. She doesn't play games (cheat on him), nor is she vindictive and seek revenge against him. 11. Verse 20 says that because her soul is full of grace happiness from her right man, she extends grace to others. 12. Verse 21 says that the right woman anticipates certain kinds of disaster and heads them off. She prepares for disaster before it arrives and makes provision. Her instincts of love keep her concentrating on her right man. She no longer depends on parties, outside friends, and fun. She doesn't try to hurt her right man who is so vulnerable to her social or mental unfaithfulness. 13. In verse 22, the right woman makes herself beautiful around the house because her right man is there. 14. Verse 23 says that she is not a nag. The right woman makes it possible for the right man to concentrate on work and be away from home without worrying about her. She compliments and implements, but never competes with her right man. She turns him on, but never puts him down. She seduces him, but never belittles him. 15. In verse 24, the right woman supports her right man with fanatical loyalty and love. 16. Verse 25 says that the right woman is the glory of her right man and wears her glory in her soul, which includes having a sense of humor. She has beauty of soul. She is totally relaxed, giving her the ability to laugh at housework, office work, or whatever she must do. 17. In verse 26, when she speaks, the right man is thrilled because wisdom comes out of her mouth. Divine viewpoint and Bible doctrine is the basis of her conversation. She refrains from verbal sins. 18. In verse 27, she is alert in her soul and not idle. 19. Verse 28 says that her sons remember her with happiness. 20. In verse 29, she waits for her right man by taking in doctrine. For the right man only one woman surpasses all others: his right woman. 21. Verse 30 says that you should not use physical beauty to determine your right woman. Beauty is deceitful. Identification is made in the soul. When you get turned on by some woman's looks, then you missed your identification. She is not your right woman. Beauty, sex appeal, and a great body, is not the basis for recognition of the right woman. Once identification is made in the soul, you will find she has the most beautiful body. The woman occupied with Christ will receive praise from her right man. 22. In verse 31, the responsive right woman becomes aggressive with her hands and lips. No wrong woman can compare. You don't have to prove anything in public to others that you are right man/right woman; touching is private. J. The Responsiveness of the Right Woman. 1. When a woman is a true responder, she initiates her response from her own free will. Right man/right woman have true communication. 2. A woman in response is aggressive. She doesn't stand around and wait for the right man to be aggressive. He doesn't have to be the aggressor on every occasion. 3. The right woman can respond to an aggressive act the right man committed a year before. She is designed for compliments, recognition, and individual attention. K. The Submission of the Right Woman. 1. If a woman is in love, she is happy to surrender her volition to the man and he will care for it. Without mental rapport, there is bad sex life. If the woman doesn't give her soul, she is cheating her man. 2. Submission of the right woman is not slavery but fulfillment. Grace inner beauty in the woman is something which the wrong man sees which he cannot fulfill. A right woman may even change friends to please her right man. The right woman's norms and standards will become one with her right man's. One person's sins don't cause sins by the other person; the same is true for human good. 3. The man should never demand anything from a woman, because he won't get anything anyway. The man cannot demand volitional response or appreciation. 4. The right woman is never shocked by the good or bad points of her right man. Her right man is a point of doctrine. Because Bible doctrine is in her soul and he is a point of doctrine, he is always in her soul, and therefore she will always be faithful. 5. A woman goes quickly from objectivity to subjectivity because she is a responder. 6. The right man will always give her something to which to respond. She saves those things in her memory so that she can respond to them again. 7. The right man, positive to doctrine, will lead in spiritual things. 8. A woman has no security in life except the security of her right man. When a man comes along and is faithful to her and no one else, and she knows it, then that person has her attention forever. 9. When you keep a promise to a woman, it impresses her. She responds. A woman who is a responder to too many things in life also makes herself a reactor to many things in life. The more you respond, the more you react.
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You should only convert for yourself, not for anybody else. Considering your boyfriend is willing to date outside the church, I'd be willing to bet it's not a deal breaker for him, but one day it might be, and you may find that one day it might be for you as well. Religion is a very personal thing and sometimes, interfaith relationships do not work. I was raised very liberal by two pagan, mormon hating lesbians and dated a mormon boy whose family (unfortunatly) spoke very loud and clear on thier opinions against homosexuals and anybody not like them. It wasn't easy for anybody but here I am years later, married to this fellow with wonderful children and a wonderful life. You need to do what feels right for you, and nobody else in the world can tell you what that is.
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I strongly urge taking the missionary discussions and reading the Book of Mormon, and deciding for yourself if Mormon beliefs have any merit and/or resonate with you. If they don't -- then DO NOT convert for his sake, that will be a huge mistake.
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GREAT question. I think you should honestly with an open heart and look at this from a different perspective. Your madly in love with your boyfriend I'm assuming. Well, why? If you truly love him for who he is. I think you owe it to yourself to look into the LDS faith. Whether or not he has been a member for long, the Church has obviously played a very large role in his life and in helping him realize who he is. If your in love with this man. Why wouldn't you want to find out more and to understand how he became who he is. It's a beautiful thing. I don't believe you should convert for him, but there is nothing wrong with joining the church because of him. If that makes sense. It will definately be hard on your family. As it was on mine, my whole family is Catholic and they didn't take too well to either. But it's made my life better and I am happier than I have ever been. It will be hard on you but it will all be worth it. Your family is going to love you no matter what and although they may not understand it's not like your not their daughter anymore? Or that your some other person now? Your still you and that will never change. So I encourage you to look into it. It's up to you, but with whatever you choose I wish the best of luck and I hope that what ever decision you come to, your happy with it.
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If you are serious about each other you should research each others beliefs and then decide - why should you assume it is you who has to convert; what do you believe in and could he convert? Religion should not rule our lives or our relationships but if you both feel strongly that you need a designated faith to follow then you should decide together which one it should be. Parental pressure to follow their religion is wrong and although they might not like your decision I hope they would have the intelligence and respect for you to make your own decisions. having said that, you don't say how old you are - I would personally not want to make any decisions (or see my children make any decisions) that were not as important to make as it may feel - if you and your boyfriend are still quite young I would leave religion out of it and just have fun ;0)
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I have married into a Muslim family and have the same problem. I think all one can do is follow one's heart. Read up on the religion and you will know if it is right for you. I have chosen to stay Christian but am reading the Koran and finding it totally amazing. So I could be converting.
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i myself am in the same position. I am a non-mormon and my boyfriend and his family are, my family dont understand. I love this man more than life itself and refuse to let his family come between us, i am getting taught at home just now by the missioniries and learning so much which is making me understand where my boyfriend is coming from more. I urge you to do the same and to stick in there if your really in love with this man everything is worth it, but you do have to understand his faith and either embrace this or not...only you can decide i wish you the best in the future and hope it all works out xxx
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OH MY GOD, WHAT?!?!!? Are you joking!?!?!? THAT is how people pick a religion!?!? NO! You should not convert. The whole religion is one big scam. Learn about it (not from the high-pressure salesmen they call "missionaries") from both Mormons AND ex-mormons and maybe a neutral source as well. THEN decide whether or not you can call yourself a Mormon and still respect yourself or look other people in the eye.
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ask your boy friend to convert to your way of thinking...and then you will see what the results are.
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Hi, I was in the same boat as you...every Sunday i went to church with my boyfriend and attended relief society, etc. I did so because i wanted to share in his passion. He loved the church and i wanted to be a part of that with him by attending. However, i said i would look into LDS and see if it was for me. I am Christian and thought that the values would ideally be the same. Well, they are, but there are much stricter rules to follow to make sure that you are in "good standing" with the church. When i first started dating my now ex-boyfriend, he told me that he prayed and asked God if I was the one...apparently, his revelation was a "yes". As well, his parents whom are VERY LDS (The whole family is from a total Mormon community in Stirling, Alberta)prayed and got the same answer. The ring was chosen, he asked my dad for permission..then a week later he had a revelation from the Holy Spirit that said he was not to be with me. I am devastated. I went to the LDS church when the lights were off and no one was there and sat alone crying and praying. I asked why God only spoke to him because I was certain that the God I spoke to had answered my prayers for a man like him. We were supposed to be together because we loved eachother....I felt terribly alone and unable to understand how the Holy Spirit just apparently changed views...my ex couldn't give me a straight answer...just that his revelation told him we were through. So, i now feel like the Holy Spirit can even control love...I am so hurt... I guess the reason for me telling you this story is because I know in my heart that Love is something you feel and can not deny it. I know that the LDS ideology believes that your prayers will be answered...but my thoughts are: what if you encounter an argument with your boyfriend and he tells you your suggested path is wrong because the Holy Spirit told him so? Can you deal with that? or do you think becoming Mormon will change you into someone who can easily deal with such a situation. All in all, it's not about just believing in God...the ideology runs much deeper than that and i think you should investigate. Do your research and find out for yourself if it is the right path for you to follow. If not, than i hope your boyfriend can still be with you. Please note, that if you decided to get married, because you are not Mormon, LDS states you would not be with him in the afterlife and that is a VERY HUGE ISSUE for Mormons. Please do all you can to discover for yourself and don't do it just for the relationship. In the end, you could just be compromising too much of who you are as a person...the person who he fell in love with
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I totally know how you are feeling. I have a Mormon boyfriend in which i am totally crazy about. But, just like you my parents, mine are totally against him, and feel that he and his family is trying to convert me. This is not the case at all. He and his family tell me that they love me for who i am and feel that i do not need to be mormon to be with their son or to be apart of their family. My parents believe though that they are just telling me what i want to hear, then when we do get married, i will HAVE to become mormon. My boyfriend knows that if this is the case, then i do not want to be with him, because i shouldn't have to make that sacrafice to be with him. Its a huge conflict in my family to a point where they wont even talk to me. I know what your feeling, but if you and your boyfriend believe you can hold an interfaith relationship, then there shouldn't be a reason you can't. But if he can only be with you if you convert, then he isn't the one. But if you want to convert because you believe it, then go for it. good luck.
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No you should not convert. The LDS are a dangerous cult. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=mormon+vs+christian+doctrine&spell=1 Read up on them, if you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, the LDS will tell you that is foolish. Consult any Christian minister... they will say that Mormonism is a cult not Christian, and ask them why. You can go to any Christian church ie Baptist - Methodist - Assemblys of God - Christian Life Center - Etc they will all say the same thing. Stay away from LDS
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If you convert, it should be for yourself, not for him. They will be glad to have the missionaries teach you, and then you will be able to make an informed decision. A shared religion acceptable to both will be a joy for life. Anything else will only cause pain. Note: This is also true if HE converts to YOUR church. By the way, I am a Mormon myself.
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My dear, Conversion can only come from the Holy Ghost. You can investigate the Church, and read our literature and pray to God, in the name of Jesus Christ, if the things you are studing is true. And if you are really sincere and want to know the truth for yourself, you will receive an answer. But if you are just going through the motions just to become a Mormon for your boyfriend, you will not receive an answer to any of your prayers. You do not have to join the Church to get married, but I would not recommend that route to anyone. Sooner or later you would have to at least investigate the Church just to keep peace in the family. No my dear, since the Church seems to a big part of your boyfriend's life and family, you would be smart in truly investigating the Church first. Then if you really feel it is true and something you can live with for the rest of your life, you still need to pray to heavenly Father in the name of Jesus Christ to really find out if it is true. Then let nature take it's course. This is not your family's decision, nor is it his family's decision. Your decision will effect your whole life, you need to make very sure this is what you want, for you. No one else matters. whew6
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Only convert to Mormonism if you believe in mormonism. What your boyfriend believes shouldn't affect what YOU believe.
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I think that you should definetly look into doing your research on LDS. I dated a mormon guy after he returned from his mission, I come from a bapist church and have am very clear and familiar with what I believe in and why, however when dating a mormon I found it very hard to been on the same page spiritually because he was constantly pressuring me to convert to the mormon faith, and I did research on mormon marriages and why they had to do it in a temple, after a lot of research I found that for young men in the mormon church they have a goal of making it into the God-Hood which is some sort of thing they 'believe' they have in heaven in which if a man marries a women within the faith then he has made it to into this 'God-hood' hence the reason why mormons are known for polygamy Joseph smith was known to have 9 wives and that just made sense to me but google 'mormonism' and you'll find a lot of info. I can happily say we broke up because I just knew it wasn't for me and it went against everything I believed in.
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Investigate the Church. Then convert if you would want to even if you didn't know him. But don't commit yourself to a church you don't believe in. That would only cause both of you AND your children problems down the road. . When you investigate, you may find that what your family is against are what non-members TOLD them Mormons believe. But that what we actually believe is quite different, and makes sense to you. Try it and find out.
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look into Mormonism, compare it to CHristianity. There is no religion so decietful and blasphimis as Mormonism. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=is+mormonism+Christian&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g1
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Since this question was asked in 2007 I hope that you have listened to the wise counsel that was offered here by those who warned you against the dangers of Mormonism and what life as an LdS Woman is like. If you remain unconvinced I would simply refer you to the following resources: AUDIO: Becky Walker 'The LDS Woman' http://www.concernedchristians.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=42&func=view&id=74636&catid=526 WEB CLIP: Dr. Kent Ponder 'Mormon Women, Prozac and Therapy' http://www.concernedchristians.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=42&func=view&id=74625&catid=526 WEB CLIP: 'Being Unequally Yoked with a Latter-day Saint' by Bill McKeever http://www.concernedchristians.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=42&func=view&id=79971&catid=10
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I think if two people love each other they should naturally be concerned with every facet of the well being of the other, including salvation. If you believe in God I would suggest you and your boyfriend get together and figure out who's religion is right if either and that's the church you should join. But "converting" to please other people is a bad idea and rarely works out in the end.
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