No he is not...if he were he would not have been cast from heaven by Michael...read Revelation 12:7-9 . "7 And there was a great battle in heaven, Michael and his angels fought with the dragon, and the dragon fought and his angels: 8 And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And that great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, who seduceth the whole world; and he was cast unto the Earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."

Well, he definitely in the begginning was more powerful or higher in rank than most of the angels, so he probably still is. However, God has set boundaries for all the angelic hosts, so this may be some protection for the lower rank angels. But satan is already judged and awaiting his punishment.

I don't believe there is any hard doctrine on this, it is therefore speculation. It was my understanding that Satan WAS Lucifer. Lucifer was the highest angel in God's choir and therefore a seraphim. He was the prince of all the angels. He began to believe that he was better than God and could act out of concert with God's will. While God is supreme he is also a servant to all of us and Lucifer could not understand this. God loved Lucifer so much that he allowed him freedom to act as he pleases. As God contains all perfections and not the slightest imperfection he will not allow evil in his presence. Evil is an imperfection. Satan and his minions were expelled from heaven but allowed to live in the hope that they might repent. God's love and forgiveness are unfathomable. Anyway Michael the Archangel took the place of Lucifer as Prince of the Angels. I would say that Satan retains much power but i think any angel who wields God-given power with undeniable faith would be capable of defeating Satan. Maybe as Satan is a fallen Seraphim (the highest of the angelic choirs) only a Seraphim with undeniable faith would be able to vanquish Satan. It would seem logical that just the fact that Satan has been seperated from God would reduce his powers (as God is the main source). Suffice it to say that whatever the case may be, at the very least God could vanquish Satan at any instant if he so desired. St Michael the Archangel could vanquish him at the moment God asks him to do so. He would not do so earlier as he is fully obedient to God.

He used to be and might still be, but one day Michael kicks his ass. Read the 12th book of Revelation. Christians believe this tells of Satan's demise.

Yes, he is, he was originaly Gods greatest angel, But then i have to think, "power?" as in what kind of power. Angels just do what God tell them, so i think that the "power" you are refering to is false, and Angels power, just as all the saints, comes from God

Oh yeah, He is the master of disaster.

No he was "ONE OF" Gods most powerful angels. God TRUSTED him and therefore anointed him which turned out to be a mistake. He perverted the power that God GAVE him. As always everything is in GODS hands :)

Satan needs to Respect MY AUTHORITY FOR I AM THE ARCHANGEL GABRIEL

One might say so, in comparing his raw power with that of any particular angel, but then again, Satan is not as powerful as Lucifer, his angelic form, before he fell from heaven due to rebellion. He was more powerful when connected to God, and since Michael and all other non fallen angels, Satan might give Michael a good challenge, but the war has already been lost at Calvary, in the mind of Satan, and he knows it. He is miserable and woefully obstinate, which is why he wants to make as many souls/humans as miserable as possible, even resulting in multiple suicides, sending him company, though they have made their choice, and are not innocent or being victimized in any way.

no-good overrides evil.

that depends, who would win in a cage fight, the easter bunny or the tooth fairy?

LUCIFER THEOLOGY IS NOT TRUE (PART 1-4) by Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe This message has been send to over 3000 US churches, seminaries, theologians, to South African famous pastors, and pastors, evangelists, teachers, bible schools. Many have asked for forgiveness from the man of God prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe though email. Korean missionaries have asked for more lessons and have accepted the truth revealed to them in the scriptures. The man of God, has send the same messages to US pastors who are pastoring big churches, ministries, para-churches, networks and most importantly to benny hinn, myles, td jakes, hagee, ernest angley, creflo dollar, jimmy swaggart, dag mills, jerry savelle and etc. Many US theology universities, colleges and seminaries have accepted the correction, including pastors networks, apostles and prophetic teams, women breakfast networks. From over 3000 emails sent to churches, pastors, seminaries, we have thus far only received four (4) replies who have rejected the bible truth, and remain deceived, and refuse to accept the bible truth sent to them for warning and correction. TO : SENIOR PASTORS, EVANGELISTS, PASTORS, TEACHERS, CHURCH MEMBERS PART 1 DISCUSSION Look about your ‘lucifer theology’ you are lying! You are a deceiver William Cook; you teach 100% lies of satan which benny hinn, myles, td jakes and hagee are teaching. Look, am not against them, I am against the lies they have propagated by lack of bible study and reading, taking other people’s references, books and thoughts and saying the same things to millions of children in faith(novices), who are defenseless, and without bible truths. In Africa, there are thousands of pastors who have heard them say that, and are preaching the same thing(deception, error), till today. Their influence above other pastors, when it comes to unbiblical doctrine must be questioned with love and warning, as did apostle Paul to Peter (Gal 2:11, 1 Tim 1:20, 2 Jhn 9). Not to condemn but to warn and save (Jude 1:23). WHAT WAS SATAN FROM THE BEGINNING? What is satan? he is a devil, a murderer from the beginning.(JHN 8:44) the word beginning means "where things began". now, Jesus said "the devil was a murderer from the beginning" JESUS not you or theology! He said the devil was a murderer from the beginning! BEGINNING! Did you know the beginning? The BEGINNING (who is JESUS) said: SATAN (devil) was a murderer from the beginning. He NEVER said he was an ARK angel of worship, a leading angel of worship, nor an angel of light. He said "satan was a devil" from the beginning and that devil was a murderer. HOW DARE YOU TWIST THE WORD OF JESUS! You theologians like adding things that are not in the bible; you think you are wise and clever than JESUS! You use scriptures to say things that are not in the bible. The bible further says he (satan) is a thief. As a thief to kill, steal and destroy, a thief according to the bible has never entered or approached heaven (God’s throne). JESUS said where no thief approacheth" (Luk 12:33). How did he (satan) approach heaven when JESUS said no thief ever approached HEAVEN (God’s throne). God’s throne is God’s seat, and his throne is HEAVEN. You are confused! Because you do not know which heaven is JESUS referring to! You must study “heaven, heavens, generations of heavens, heaven of heavens, heavenly” FIRST! Did you know that God created satan a serpent. He is a serpent you read in Gen 3 which tempted the Eve. Verse 1 of Gen 3 says "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made" (KJV). DO YOU SEE HATH MADE! THE LORD GOD HATH MADE! That serpent is the same serpent you read in Rev 12:9, 20:2 is satan! And that serpent is a devil which the Lord God hath made in Gen 3:1 and you know that, it is just that your lying ‘theological’ nature does not permit you to accept that. If you ask benny hinn, hagee, td jakes and all preachers all over the world "who is the snake that tempted eve or the serpent that spoke to Eve, they will all say: ‘it is satan’. But they don’t want to accept that ‘the serpent is satan’ which God created in Gen 3:1. They are deceived (in error, led astray) like you. THEY ACCEPT what they want the rest they distort and refuse! God formed the crooked serpent by his hand (Job 26:13)KJV. The word ‘crooked’ means: evil, subtil, wicked, vile. The heaven which is implicated and you read in Rev 12:7-8 which satan fell from is Gen 1:7-8. satan has never been in heaven (God’s throne, God’s seat); he (satan) is a murder a thief, a liar and God NEVER permits liars, murderers, thieves in his throne. Heaven is God's THRONE (seat)- Matt 23:22. It is not a place of fighting; it is God's ruling throne. AND HIS WILL IS DONE IN HEAVEN!(Mtt 6:9-10). Rev 12 is speaking about the birth Jesus, Mary, Herod (red dragon) who killed the 3rd of the children of Rama; and it reveals satan (great dragon,devil). Never take scriptures out of context and mix verses you have no business mixing.AS YOU DO EZEK 28 with ISAI 14. Before you read Rev 12 have you read Rev 9. IF YOU HAVE NOT READ Rev 9, YOU will propagate and proliferate what you said because you have never read the bible from genesis to revelation non-stop. You have used your carnal mind and have taught what other deceivers have taught. GOD CREATED THE CROOKED SERPENT BY HIS HAND (Job 26:13). And that serpent is satan, devil crooked serpent, liar, deceiver of all the world, great dragon, old serpent, belial, and he (satan) has his beginning as a devil and will burn in the lake of fire forever and ever (Rev 20:10). ALELUYA. satan is called the angel of the bottomless pit, not angel of heaven(read REV 9:11). He is a king over the evil beasts you read in the book of revelation. He is NEVER called LUCIFER but "They have as king over them, the angel of the BOTTOMLESSPIT; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon." The word abyss is the phrase in KJV "bottomless pit" not HEAVEN. The names of satan ABADDON and APOLLYON, one is destructor and another destroyer. And God created the destroyer (waster) (Isai 54:16). Search the scriptures! You will see that for yourself. Do not add to the bible. Satan was NEVER an angel of light and has never been in heaven leading worship. 2 Cor 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light". satan himself is transformed into an angel of LIGHT. HIMSELF! God never made him a worship angel of light. SATAN does that himself! NOT GOD made him an angel of light. The light is Jesus! SATAN WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF JESUS. AND GOD IS LIGHT AND GOD NEVER MADE satan an angel of worship! The scripture NEVER TEACHES that, you lying theologians teach that. You market satan as an angel of LIGHT. In other words you are his messengers, false apostles, promoting satan (2 Cor 11:13-16). one false preacher said and I quote: “Lucifer[satan,devil] was holy, pure and he held an office of significance in heaven]”. What did JESUS say? He said he(satan) was a DEVIL [MURDERER] from the beginning but they say JESUS is wrong, satan was an angel of worship, an ark angel protecting the throne of GOD. This is what lying pastors say! furthermore if you claim LUCIFER to be satan as an anointed cherub. Do you know what you are doing? you are saying satan was anointed. and do you know what the anointing is? it is the HOLY SPIRIT and POWER, that means you are saying satan had the HOLY SPIRIT and POWER. And that is a sin that WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN IN THIS WORLD AND IN THE WORLD TO COME. HARD! hMMM, this is an african preacher who is not afraid of theologians but a man who is a prince of the of the ROYAL BAKWENA BAMARE-A-PHOGOLE, Prophet S.STEPHEN Mogagabe. International Cell No.:+27820532122 (website http://mogagabess.magix.net/website). PART 2-DISCUSION I QUOTE WHAT YOU said: "My friend, you confuse me". NO! I do not confuse you are have been confused by lying pastors who taught you that satan was in heaven (God’s throne) when he was never in the heaven (throne of God) but heaven which is the firmament (Gen 1:7-8). the heaven you read in Rev 12 which you have quoted not in the KJV (which is another error you are doing not reading the bible in KJV), that HEAVEN is FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8)-read KJV! Thief (is satan), murderer is satan, dragon is satan, satan is devil, father of lies, ALL THIS WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne, God’s seat)! Did you not read what Jesus said when he said "thieves cannot approach HEAVEN". Satan is a murderer and murderers are never permitted (Rev 22:15,21:8) in heaven(God’s throne, God’s seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) GOD who said murderers are never permitted in heaven (Rev 22:15,21:8) has never changed; he has been the same and his word has never changed. if he said that; he has forever said that. When JESUS said: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" this heaven you read is the same in GEN 1:8 (read KJV). Because he is the Lord God who created the heaven and the earth and the same Lord God who said “heaven is firmament”. The second part with all preachers you claim that there is one heaven , and you are lying. The bible teaches about heaven as: 1. firmament (sky) expanse,dome- Gen 1:7-8 kjv, this firmament (heaven) is going to be burned with fire together with the earth when God judgment takes place. this is the heaven where the PRINCE OF PERSIA withstood Gabriel the angel of God. those whom the Lord Jesus showed this heaven knows and have seen it , and have said it is dark, evil and gross darkness, this is where the devil was 2. generations of heavens (Gen 2:1) 3. heavens Gen 2:1 KJV 4. heaven of heavens- this one look it for yourself! 5. heaven (God's throne) 1 king 22:19, psa 11:4 So before you confuse yourself; study heavens, heaven and all heavens in the bible; you will stop coming to hasty conclusions. JESUS IS NOT CONFUSED WHEN HE SAID HE SAW SATAN FALL LIKE A LIGHTING FROM HEAVEN; HE SAID FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8). BECAUSE HE WAS THE MAN CHILD WHO YOU HAVE READ OVER IN THE SAME BOOK OF REV 12:5 YOU’ve QUOTED! Rev 12 speaks of Jesus Birth as the man child who was caught up to HIS THRONE, DO YOU SEE THRONE, AND DO YOU SEE HEAVEN! TWO DIFFERENT WORDS USED IN THE SAME REVELATION 12! how blind can you be! Micheal and the dragon fought in the HEAVEN(FIRMAMENT)-GEN 1:7-8. When you read Rev 12:1 is speaks of Mary the woman who is clothed and carrying what he is carrying, the red dragon is Herod who killed the 3rd of the children of RAMA (Matt 2:15-19,20), and the man child is JESUS who was caught up to his throne. Then you have the great dragon that dragon is not the red dragon, that great dragon which is not red is satan and he was cast out of heaven (firmament). "AND LORD CALLED THE FIRMAMENT HEAVEN"(Gen 1:7-8).The firmament is called heaven! YOU CANNOT FIGHT IN GOD'S THRONE (HEAVEN, God seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). But you can fight in the firmament which is (heaven-the sky). Before you start reading Rev 12; have you read revelation 9? where did that dragon you are reading about come from? THE BOTTOMLESS PIT! HE CAME AS A KING OVER THEM "evil creatures", and that king is called the angel of the bottomless pit, abaddon and appolyn". Do not jump verses! read, and read and read and read! Be humble let the word of God teach you, do not come with our opinions and thoughts. PART 3 DISCUSSION I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “If you care to read Isaiah 14:12 you will see that God is speaking of Satan as, Lucifer, son of the morning." STOP YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! LUCIFER to be satan or as satan. All this is what theologians teach! And it is untrue you like saying things you do not know, don't you! That verse you have quoted never said what you are claiming. You said: “you will see that God is speaking of satan”. THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT! GOD NEVER SPOKE THAT. YOU HAVE LIED ABOUT GOD! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer if you care to search the scripture's is a created being, one of only four angels mentioned [Michael, Gabriel, Lucifer and Apollyon] in the Bible." LYING! THERE IS MORE THAN FOUR ANGELS (Heb 12:22), and there are EVIL ANGELS (Psa 78:49), YOU LYING, THERE IS MORE THAN FOUR ANGEL, YOU LYING THING! YOU ARE FULL OF LIES, LUCIFER IS NOT AN ANGEL CREATED, THE BIBLE NEVER SAID THAT! WHICH BIBLE SAID THAT? NOT KJV, i sure know that, maybe it is the bible you have written or the one which benny hinn, tb jakes, myles , hagee are propagating. I QOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Isaiah 14:12-15 declares that this created being who is named Lucifer, son of the morning, in his pride because of his desire to usurp God Almighty from His Throne, was thrown down out of Heaven where he [Lucifer] had a place of significance". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! “LUCIFER CREATED?”. HMM...ALL LIES! Lucifer is Light Bringer, Light Bearer, Morning Star. And Jesus is the Morning Star (Below I have quoted all the verses that shows us all that, look at them and stop your lies). LUCIFER [satan, devil] as you said HAD A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE? WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT? NO WHERE, NOT IN THE KJV OF THE BIBLE! IT IS YOUR OWN WORDS, NOT THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE NEVER SAID, AND I QUOTE YOUR WORDS: “his desire to usurp God Almighty from his throne”. YA! YOU ARE REALLY FULL OF LIES, REPENT AND BE SAVED FROM HE BURNING FIRE OF HELL THAT SHALL BURN ALL WHO MAKE LIES AND TWIST THE WORD OF GOD LIKE SATAN DID WHEN HE SPOKE TO EVE. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: Lucifer [Satan, devil, dragon] said his haughtiness". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, LUCIFER IS SATAN WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT. Lucifer is Light Bringer, Light Bearer, Morning Star. And Jesus is the Morning Star (Below I have quoted all the verses that shows us all that, look at them and stop your lies). JESUS SAID: "the devil was a murderer from the beginning!"JESUS SAID THAT HE WAS A DEVIL, A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING NOT ANGEL of worship! JESUS SAID A “DEVIL” WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING! Not an angel of worship from the BEGINNING. When things began he was a devil, a murderer NOT ANGEL OF WORSHIP,OR A PROTECTOR OF THE THRONE OF GOD AS YOU SAY! NOT WHAT YOU SAID. I QUOTE what you said "down out of Heaven where he [Lucifer] had a place of significance". LUCIFER[who you call satan] NEVER HAD A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE IN HEAVEN (GOD'S THRONE). YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! YOU LIE AGAIN BY SAYING LUCIFER IS, I QUOTE: Lucifer "[Satan, devil, dragon]" I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "And for this reason it cost him his esteemed place in heaven." YOU ARE LYING AGAIN "him" NEVER HAD AN ESTEEMED PLACE IN HEAVEN (GOD’S THRONE)! HE NEVER HAD IT; THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT, IT IS WHAT ALL THEOLOGIANS TEACH! SATAN[DRAGON,DEVIL,OLD SERPENT], is from the bottomlesspit READ THE BIBLE(Rev 9:1-13) NOT HEAVEN (God’s throne- God’s seat)! HEAVEN IS GOD'S THRONE! (Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) SATAN NEVER HAD A THRONE IN HEAVEN(GOD’S THRONE)! THE STAR OPENED THE BOTTOMLESS PIT (REV 9) AND EVIL CREATURES CAME OUT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT WAS A KING OVER THEM, THAT KING IS ABADDON, APOLYON, SATAN, DEVIL. THE BIBLE DID NOT SAY HE CAME OUT OF HEAVEN BUT OUT OF THE BOTTOMLES PIT! BUT YOU WON’T AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU LIED ABOUT THE BIBLE, you have jumped chapter 9, in your un-teachable attitude. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID:"the serpent, became the vessel through which this fallen angel Lucifer [Lucifer has the ability to disguise himself in any way] could communicate with Eve to beguile her". JESUS IS LUCIFER (light bearer, light bringer, morning star). See verses and bible references I have listed below in the study, you will stop saying what you are saying. AHA, I WANTED to hear what you are saying and you made it clear that you are confused! SATAN IS NOT A FALLEN ANGEL! HE IS AN ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT AND THE KJV BIBLE SAYS THAT; NOT FALLEN ANGEL, BUT ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT! YOU ARE full of LYING, LUCIFER DOES NOT DISGUISE HIMSELF AND HAS NO ABILITY TO DISGUISE HIMSELF, NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT TEACH THAT, BUT LIKE ALL THEOLOGIANS YOU LIE ABOUT THINGS AND ADD TO THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE SAYS: "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.". IT NEVER SAID SATAN WAS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. IT SAYS HE IS AN ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT[Rev 9] NOT LUCIFER OF HEAVEN AS YOU SAID.THIS SCRIPTURE IS SAYING SATAN HIMSELF! DID YOU HEAR? Satan HIMSELF! IT NEVER SAID GOD MADE HIM AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, BUT SATAN HIMSELF! HE WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF LIGHT IS THE BEGINNING AND JESUS SAID THAT HE WAS A DEVIL IN THE BEGINNING! AND JESUS IS GOD, AND GOD(JESUS) SAID SATAN WAS A DEVIL (MURDERER) IN THE BEGINNING; I BELIEVE HIM(JESUS) NOT YOU! MY JESUS CHRIST NEVER LIES, you are the ones who lie. I QUOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: "No sir you are wrong in your assumption that the serpent is the devil, or Lucifer or Satan." THE BIBLE TEACHES US THAT SATAN IS AN OLD SERPENT! DOES NOT IT! WHAT IS A SERPENT? OH! I SEE, YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE, YOU BELIEVE LIES THE BIBLE CALLS SATAN AN OLD SERPENT, YOU SAY NO! HE IS NOT, HE IS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. SO WHAT ARE YOU? A CHILD OF SATAN OR GOD, YOU PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL NOT JESUS’ GOSPEL. THE BIBLE SAYS WE MUST NOT ACCEPT SUCH A PERSON LIKE YOU WHO PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer led a rebellion in heaven against God and was thrown out of God's Kingdom taking with him 13 of the heavenly hosts". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! GOD'S ANGEL NEVER REBEL AND NEVER DO. THERE ARE HOLY ANGELS AND EVIL ANGELS.READ THE KJV (PS 78:49) "He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels [among them]. ". YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU DO NOT READ THE BIBLE, WAKE UP THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “was thrown out of God’s Kingdom”. HEY! YOU ARE RELY FULL OF LIES, SATAN WAS NEVER IN GOD’S KINGDOM, HE IS AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD NOT IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, HE WAS AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU, CAN’T YOU JUST ACCEPT THE SCRIPTURES THE WAY THEY ARE AND STOP ADDING TO THE HOLY WORD OF GOD. LUCIFER NEVER took 1/3 OF THE ANGELS; WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT. YOU HAVE LIED AGAIN. THE 1/3 OF THE STARS THAT FELL WHERE THE CHILDREN OF RAMA (Mat 2:15-18,20). "In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping [for] her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not." THE RED DRAGON you read in Rev 12 is HEROD. And the woman you read about in Rev 12:1-2 IS MARY and the man child is JESUS, who was caught up to HIS THRONE. DID YOU SEE HIS THRONE IN THAT KJV BIBLE. HEAVEN IS JESUS THRONE! AND HE SAT ON IT! As he sat on his throne he saw SATAN FALL FROM HEAVEN THE SKY (FIRMAMENT) (READ GEN 1:7-8). This heaven is not GOD's throne but the sky the KJV say FIRMAMENT! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: " You can read about this revolution in Isaiah 14:12-20 and Ezekiel 28:11-19. Ezekiel's lamentation concerning this fallen-being gives one an indication of the beauty of Lucifer." HMM.., FULL OF LIES..YOU STILL YOU MIX EZEK 28 WITH ISAI 14, that’s what all liars say. I have heard that and the bible does not say that! THE BIBLE SAYS: "That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon" IT NEVER SAID SATAN! It said king of Babylon. DOES YOUR BIBLE HAVE KING OF BABYLON or did it change itself to replace the phrase “king of Babylon” to satan. I GUESS NOT! YOU ARE STILL FULL OF LIES, YOU TWIST VERSES AND BIBLE SCRIPTURES. THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU! EZEK 28, is a lamentation to the King of Tyrus, not satan. YOU ARE FULL OF LIES! I QOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: Furthermore if you care to read up on Job 1:6-7, you will see that the sons of God, the angels, came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan was among them [v6]" STOP! HERE IS ANOTHER LIE, SONS OF GOD, THE ANGELS, NEVER!!! THE BIBLE SAYS THE SONS OF GOD NOT ANGELS, THE KJV SAYS: “SONS OF GOD”. ANGELS ARE NEVER SONS! AND THEY WILL NEVER BE FOR ETERNITY. THE SCRIPURE SAYS: "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? " Heb 1:5 ANGELS ARE NEVER SONS , THAT IS ANOTHER LIE WHICH THEOLOGIANS AND PASTORS PREACH! YOU LIE ALL THE TIME! THERE IS NO ANGEL WHICH IS A SON OR SONS! I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY GOD NEVER ALLOWED ME TO STUDY THEOLOGY, THATNK YOU LORD JESUS FOR PROTECTING ME FROM LIES. I GIVE YOU HONOUR AND GLORY. THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING MY HEART FROM DECEPTION BY YOUR HOLY WORD. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Notice that Satan says walking. If Satan as you say is a serpent then how come he is walking as verse 7". THIS IS ANOTHER CONFUSION; YOU FORGOT WHAT THE BIBLE SAY: HE IS A FATHER OF LIES.THIEF, MURDERER, DEVIL, DRAGON, ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, SERPENT (OLD SERPENT). YOU QUOTED THE WORDS OF satan, you quoted his lies. God never said that; but satan said that, so satan’s children like to say what you are saying. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "So Satan, devil, Lucifer is summoned from time to time to appear before God Almighty,because God is still the Sovereign Ruler of his creation, and when He summons angels, fallen or otherwise they obey. " YOU ARE LYING; THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY SATAN IS LUCIFER THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE LIKE THAT IN THE BIBLE; AND NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT SATAN APPEARED BEFORE GOD FROM TIME TO TIME! NO WHERE! HE IS AN ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN (Rev 9:10); BUT THE SCRIPTURE NEVER SAID HE APPEARS BEFORE GOD FROM TIME TO TIME. THE KJV SAYS: “for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before God DAY AND NIGHT”. DO YOU SEE DAY AND NIGHT? Not from tiem to time, you are a liar, you add to the bible, and the same book of Revelation says: “if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add him the plagues that are written in this book, and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, GOD shall take away his part out of the book of life” (Rev 22:18-19). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer is known by several different names. Rev 12:9 states, "And the great dragon was cast out, 'that old serpent', called the Devil, and Satan which deceives the whole world". DO YOU SEE THIS VERSE YOU HAVE QUOTED? IT SAYS GREAT DRAGON, OLD SERPENT, CALLED THE DEVIL AND SATAN” . Do you see that there is no angel of worship, or ark angel or Lucifer. IT SAYS SATAN! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU STILL BLIND, THAT YOU CAN’T SEE THE VERSE YOU HAVE QUOTED? WHEN I CAST OUT DEVILS; I HEAR THEM SAY “I AM LUCIFER”, THEY ARE STILL LYING EVEN IF THEY SAY THAT; THEY ARE LIARS AND SATAN IS THE FATHER OF LIES. LUCIFER IS NOT SATAN, LUCIFER IS THE HEBREW WORD, WHICH MEANS: “heylel”. This word means: light bringer, light bearer (Acts 9:3, Jhn 12:46,36,35, 9:5, 3:21,19, 1:9,5,4 ). ONLY JESUS IS THE LIGHT AND LIGHT BEARER AND BRINGER! SATAN HAS NEVER BEEN A LIGHT BEARER AND BRINGER, JESUS SAID HE WAS A MURDERER, DEVIL FROM BEGINNING. JESUS NEVER SAID HE IS A LIGHT BEARER, DID HE? YOU ARE SAYING JESUS “SAID HE IS A LIGHT BEARER, BRINGER AND THAT MAKES YOU A LIAR (DEVIL). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "but rather the man-child spoken of is the many Jews who will come into repentance during the Great Tribulation." YOU ARE LYING, child of satan! THE BIBLE SAYS THE MAN CHILD NOT JEWS! AND IT SAYS “TO HIS THRONE”, NOT THEIR THRONES! YOU ARE LYING, little viper! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Your continuous mention that Satan was never an angel of light is unfounded because scripture implies that he was (2 Corinthians 11:14)." YOU LIKE QUOTING VERSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAN, DON’T YOU? YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, IT SAY SATAN HIMSELF! NOT GOD HIMSELF TRANSFORMED HIM (satan) INTO AN AGNEL OF LIGHT". HE (devil) WAS NEVER angel of worship, HE (satan) TRANSFORMED HIMSELF, HE WAS NEVER an angel of worship, leading worship BY CREATION, HE DOES THAT(transformation) HIMSELF! DO NOT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES! IF HE (satan) TRANSFORMS HIMSELF, INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, IT MEANS HE (satan) WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF WORSHIP. YOUR IGNORANCE IS HUGE AND BLINDING YOU. YOU ARE MARKETING HIM (satan) AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT WHEN JESUS SAID HE WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING! In simple terms you are his servants doing satan’s bidding marketing him to be good, while he was a devil, murderer from the beginning. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Satan was in his original state the Morning star. He was once known as the [bright day-star] morning star". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN HE WAS NEVER A MORNING STAR THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT, HE (satan) WAS NEVER A BRIGHT DAY STAR, YOU SAY THAT NOT THE KJV BIBLE. JESUS SAID: “HE WAS DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING” (Jhn 8:44). HIS ORIGINAL STATE WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER ACCORDING TO JESUS (GOD). YOU SAY HE (satan) WAS A MORNING STAR, HOW CONFUSED CAN YOU BE! YOU ARE CHILDREN OF SATAN, YOU TWIST SCRIPTURES, THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID : "Jesus Christ is now the worthy title holder of "the bright morning star". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, JESUS HAS BEEN WORTHY BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD! JESUS HAS NEVER BEEN UNWORTHY! HE WAS WITH GOD AND IS GOD, MIGHTY GOD (Jhn 1:1, Isai 9:6). HE IS THE MORNING STAR IN OUR HEARTS!(2 Pet 1:9, Rev 22:16). JESUS WAS, AND IS THE MORNING STAR FOREVER. HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER. SATAN NEVER HELD THE TITLE OF MORNING STAR. JESUS IS THE MORNING STAR FOREVER. HE IS THE BEGINNING (MORNING STAR) AND THE END (MORNING STAR). MORNING STAR IN THE KJV IS DAY STAR! DONT LIE TO ME! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Satan when he was Lucifer in heaven was an anointed cherub, because God set it so". YOU ARE FULL OF LIES ARENT YOU? SATAN when he was lucifer? JESUS SAID HE WAS A DEVIL FROM THE BEGINNING. THE BEGINNING IS WHERE THINGS BEGAN! HE BEGAN A DEVIL NOT AN ANOINTED CHERUB! AND JESUS SAID THAT!(Jhn 8:44). YOU SAY, “because God set it so’. NOW WHERE DID GOD SET IS SO IN THE WHOLE KJV BIBLE. YOU SAY HE(satan) WAS ANOINTED? NO; HE WAS NEVER, SATAN WAS NEVER ANOINTED AND WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne)! WHEN THE ANOINTING COMES ON YOU CANNOT LIE AND YOU ABIDE IN THE TRUTH!(1 JHN 2:27). SATAN NEVER ABODE IN THE TRUTH (Jhn 8:44). THE ANOINTING IS THE HOLY SPIRIT AND POWER! (Acts 10:38).HOW WAS SATAN ANOINTED WITH THE HOLY GHOST! YOU ARE LYING AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE LYING! Child of satan! Your tongue is full of poison (false doctrine). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID "As an anointed cherub he walked in beauty and splendor amongst the Holy Mountain of God, up and down in the midst of the stones of fire, Ezekiel 28:14. Yes he was an anointed angel; but lost that pure, holy and perfect anointed state because of rebellion. But Satan can, given the opportunity anoint a human being with evil, hatred, murder, envy, maliciousness, corruption etc.” YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, HE WAS NEVER PURE, HOLY AND PERFECT, JESUS said he was a devil (murderer) from the beginning! SO ACCORDING TO YOU, satan was holy, pure, in other words, you are a satan worshipper, you proclaim him to have been holy and pure, WHEN JESUS said he (satan) was a DEVIL, MURDERER from the BEGINNING (Jhn 8:44). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "My writings are purely research based on facts and scripturally sound”. SO FAR NOTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS BIBLICAL; IT IS CARNAL AND THEOLOGIAL, AS ALL THEOLOGIANS LIE; YOU HAVE SAID EXACTLY THAT (LIE); IT IS NOTHING NEW BUT WHAT THEY TEACH! MAY BE YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID: “my writings are evily satanic based of satan and satan spoken”. NOTHING YOU SAY IS BIBLICAL! REPENT FOR THERE IS HELL FIRE AND THE LAKE OF FIRE THAT WILL DESTROY FOREVER AND EVER THOSE WHO MAKE LIES LIKE YOU (Rev 21:27, 22:15). TODAY, YOU ARE GIVEN A CHANCE TO REPENT AND TURN FROM YOUR WICKED WAYS! (I, S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE, PROPHET OF THE LIVING GOD; FORGIVE YOU THIS DAY, FOR SPEAKING LIES WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD OTHERS SPEAK, I FORGIVE YOU IN JESUS NAME. AND I URGE EVERYONE WHO WILL READ THIS MESSAGE TO FORGIVE ALL THOSE WHO SPOKE THIS ERROR AND DECEIT. FORGIVE THEM; BUT CONTINUE TO STAND AGAINST ERROR [DECEPTION], DOCTRINES OF DEVILS (1 Tim 4:1). IF YOU SEE YOUR BROTHER ERR, CORRECT AND REBUKE HIM, IN THAT WAY YOU WOULD HAVE SAVED HIM FROM DEATH (Lev 19:17, 1 Jhn 5:16)). PART 4 DISCUSSION I QUOTE: YOU SAID "Now, you do raise an interesting point about the Son's of God. I don't believe that the "son's of God in Genesis 6 are angels but I do believe the one's in Job are. [shrug] Satan and the other sons of God were angels but as we learned in several places; Jude, James and Revelation, they rebelled against God. YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! AS ALL THEOLOGIANS DO! Gen 6 is talking about the “SONS OF GOD” it NEVER said they are angels. It said they are SONS OF GOD, read the KJV bible. WHICH OF THE ANGELS DID GOD EVER SAY YOU ARE MY SON? ANSWER ME! WHICH? NONE IN ALL THE BIBLE, YOU HAVE HEARD THAT FROM THEOLOGIANS WHO ADD TO THE BIBLE AND READ IT IN PIECES. HEB1:5 READ IT IN KJV! THE BOOK OF JOB IS SPEAKING about the "sons of GOD" not angels! READ KJV! YOU SAID AGAIN "satan amongst angels". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! Read KJV it says satan amongst the SONS OF GOD! HOW CROOKED can you be! SONS AND ANGELS ARE NOT THE SAME AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME FOREVER AND EVER! DO NOT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES YOUR IDEAS. READ HEB 1:5 BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND AND CONFUSED, YOU SAID: "I believe that he was an angel created by God to serve but who rebelled". WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY HE WAS AN ANGEL WHO SERVED? SATAN WAS NEVER AND ANGEL WHO SERVED! NEVER! HE (satan) WAS A DEVIL (MURDERER) FROM THE BEGINNING AND JESUS (GOD) SAID THAT. You are all saying that JESUS is a LIAR because you think He (JESUS) is lying, JESUS SAID HE (satan) WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING. When things began he (satan, devil) began a devil (murderer). THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH! and JESUS who said that is GOD and LORD.AMEN! YOU SAID AGAIN: "Jude6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" KJV. DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS? Read the bible those are the angels. Read Psa 78:49 (read KJV). BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND, LET ME OPEN UP YOUR EYES. 1. ANGELS ARE SPIRITS 2. EVIL ANGELS (Psa 78:49), are EVIL SPIRITS 3. EVIL SPIRITS ARE DEMONS, DEVILS 4. WHEN YOU READ THE REVELATION OF HELL, by those JESUS appeared to, they have recorded, that Jesus said: “the demon which was cast out, was having one wing, the other wing broke, when the man of God cast it out to the abyss (deep)”. THE PROBLEM WITH YOU PASTORS YOU ARE NOT HUMBLE, YOU REFUSE THE BIBLE AND PREACH LIES IN JESUS CHURCH (Acts 20:28). You are become [grievous] ravening wolves (Acts 20:29). CONCLUSION: I am not against preachers, I love them, I urge them to repent, I am 100% against lies they have taught and teach. If and when they repent our Heavenly Father will forgive them, Jesus will forgive them, and the Holy Spirit will forgive them. I urge you to study the bible correctly with the Holy Spirit, and preach the truth of God whether people [co-partners or pastors] like you or not. JESUS never lies and never lied, he is THE TRUTH. I desire all preachers teach no other doctrine, but Christ’s doctrine and sound doctrine. I am here to tell you to repent, for I am sent to warn you and to tell you to return to the bible. Do not preach lies, fables, stories. Preach the word in season out of season, line upon line, precept upon precept, teach the sound doctrine and add nothing to it. Do your best to read the revelations of hell and heaven by those whom the Lord appeared to, I read them, I soak myself in them for they are the words of JESUS to warn this perverse and adulterous generation. Now i declare unto you this day as a prophet of the living God, i forgive you. i forgive you for teaching error in the church. i stand on behalf of the church of the living God, i stand to forgive you, start today to preach the truth. your sins are forgiven. I forgive you benny hinn, td jakes, myles, hagee, i forgive you in Jesus name! Start afresh! Jesus (God) loves you. The anointing will teach you all things From PRINCE S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE To contact PRINCE S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE (Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe) Email: mogagabess@yahoo.com Website: http://mogagabess.magix.net/website Cell Number: +27820532122 (International Line) Address: PO BOX 7001, BAMARE-A-PHOGOLE, 2843, SOUTH AFRICA

Dear Prophet STEPHEN, [1] Luke 10:18 AndG1161 He saidG2036 unto them,G846 I beheldG2334 SatanG4567 asG5613 lightningG796 fallG4098 fromG1537 heaven.G3772 (Ouranos) This verse shows Satan fell from heaven (not the sky, but Heaven (eternity where God dwells)). G3772 "Heaven" --> Ouranos ; the idea of the abode of God; eternity. This Greek word 'Ouranos' is also used elsewhere in the holy bible for the Lord's prayer: "Our Father, who art in Heaven (Ouranos), hallowed be Thy Name..." in other words, Ouranos is used in this prayer. So, clearly Ouranos, is the abode of God. Not the sky. YOU SAID IN YOUR MESSAGE ON PAGE ONE: "...When JESUS said: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" this heaven you read is the same in GEN 1:8 (read KJV)...". Actually its not the same as in GEN 1:8. I've checked it out. Its different. Look: Genesis 1:8 And GodH430 calledH7121 the firmamentH7549 Heaven.H8064 And the eveningH6153 and the morningH1242 wereH1961 the secondH8145 day.H3117 This word used in Genesis 1:8 is "Heaven H8064" or 'shamayim' which means the sky, or universe. The same word'shamayim' is used elsewhere in the bible in many places such as Deut 10:22 (Thy fathersH1 went downH3381 into EgyptH4714 with threescore and tenH7657 persons;H5315 and nowH6258 the LORDH3068 thy GodH430 hath madeH7760 thee as the starsH3556 of heavenH8064 for multitude.H7230) and here (Deu 11:11 But the land,H776 whitherH834 H8033 yeH859 goH5674 to possessH3423 it, is a landH776 of hillsH2022 and valleys,H1237 and drinkethH8354 waterH4325 of the rainH4306 of heaven:H8064). So clearly, this Heaven in Genesis 1:8 refers to the sky or the universe. Its not the same as the Heaven used here "...I saw Satan fall like lightning from Heaven (Ouranos)..." - the Abode of God. God bless you brother, Remember, life is a school and in it, we all are students. Knowledge puffs up love edifies (1 Cor 8:1).

JOHNNYBGOOD Are you saying that Jesus is a liar? Are you saying satan was an angel of God, when Jesus who is God, said he(satan) was a devil, murderer from the beginning. Be frank and state which one you believe. do you believe Jesus to be true or false. I believe Jesus is GOD and Jesus is truth. He(Jesus) said satan was a devil, murderer from the beginning according to the bible in Jhn 8:44. If you do not believe what Jesus said, you are a satan worshipper, a liar, a servant of the devil. You must repent, there is hell fire, for those who make Jesus a liar. satan has deceived many, and you are one of the decieved, but you are given a chance to repent again, heaven is God's throne and satan has never sat, walked, stayed in God's heaven (seat, throne).(HEAVEN, God seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18).The bible further says he (satan) is a thief. As a thief to kill, steal and destroy, a thief according to the bible has never entered or approached heaven (God’s throne). JESUS said where no thief approacheth" (Luk 12:33). How did he (satan, a thief) approach/enter heaven when JESUS (GOD) said no thief ever approached HEAVEN (God’s throne). God’s throne is God’s seat, and his throne is HEAVEN.he was never in the heaven (throne of God) but heaven which is the firmament (Gen 1:7-8). the heaven you read in Rev 12 which you have quoted not in the KJV (which is another error you are doing not reading the bible in KJV), that HEAVEN is FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8)-read KJV! Thief (is satan), murderer is satan, dragon is satan, satan is devil, father of lies, ALL THIS WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne, God’s seat)! Did you not read what Jesus said when he said "thieves cannot approach HEAVEN". Satan is a murderer and murderers are never permitted (Rev 22:15,21:8) in heaven(God’s throne, God’s seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) GOD who said murderers are never permitted in heaven (Rev 22:15,21:8) has never changed; he has been the same and his word has never changed. if he said that; he has forever said that. When JESUS said: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" this heaven you read is the same in GEN 1:8 (read KJV). Because he is the Lord God who created the heaven and the earth and the same Lord God who said “heaven is firmament”. The second part with all preachers you claim that there is one heaven , and you are lying. The bible teaches about heaven as: 1. firmament (sky) expanse,dome- Gen 1:7-8 kjv, this firmament (heaven) is going to be burned with fire together with the earth when God judgment takes place. this is the heaven where the PRINCE OF PERSIA withstood Gabriel the angel of God. those whom the Lord Jesus showed this heaven knows and have seen it , and have said it is dark, evil and gross darkness, this is where the devil was 2. generations of heavens (Gen 2:1) 3. heavens Gen 2:1 KJV 4. heaven of heavens- this one look it for yourself! 5. heaven (God's throne) 1 king 22:19, psa 11:4 So before you confuse yourself; study heavens, heaven and all heavens in the bible; you will stop coming to hasty conclusions. JESUS IS NOT CONFUSED WHEN HE SAID HE SAW SATAN FALL LIKE A LIGHTING FROM HEAVEN; HE SAID FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8). BECAUSE HE WAS THE MAN CHILD WHO YOU HAVE READ OVER IN THE SAME BOOK OF REV 12:5 YOU’ve QUOTED! Rev 12 speaks of Jesus Birth as the man child who was caught up to HIS THRONE, DO YOU SEE THRONE, AND DO YOU SEE HEAVEN! TWO DIFFERENT WORDS USED IN THE SAME REVELATION 12! how blind can you be! Micheal and the dragon fought in the HEAVEN(FIRMAMENT)-GEN 1:7-8.

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LUCIFER THEOLOGY IS NOT TRUE (PART 1-4) by Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe This message has been send to over 3000 US churches, seminaries, theologians, theology lecturers and professors, to South African, Africa, and Asian famous pastors, and pastors, evangelists, teachers, bible schools. Many have asked for forgiveness as a result of hearing this message from the man of God, prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe though email. Korean missionaries have asked for more lessons and have accepted the truth revealed to them in the scriptures. The man of God, has send the same messages to US pastors who are pastoring big churches, ministries, para-churches, networks and most importantly to benny hinn, myles, td jakes, hagee, ernest angley, creflo dollar, jimmy swaggart, dag mills, jerry savelle, bismark and etc. Many US theology universities, colleges and seminaries have accepted the correction, including pastors networks, apostles and prophetic teams, women breakfast networks. From over 3000 emails sent to churches, pastors, seminaries, we have thus far received only four (4) replies who have rejected the bible truth, and remain deceived, and refuse to accept the bible truth sent to them for warning and correction. TO : SENIOR PASTORS, EVANGELISTS, PASTORS, TEACHERS, CHURCH MEMBERS PART 1 DISCUSSION Look about your ‘lucifer theology’ you are lying! You are a deceiver William Cook; you teach 100% lies of satan which benny hinn, myles, td jakes and john hagee are teaching. Look, I am not against them, I am against the lies they have propagated by lack of bible study and reading by the help of the Holy Spirit, taking other (deceivers)people’s references, books and thoughts and saying the same error to millions of children in faith(novices), who are defenseless and without bible truths. In Africa, there are thousands of pastors and millions who have heard them say that error, and are preaching the same thing (deception, error), till today. Their influence above other pastors, when it comes to unbiblical doctrine must be questioned with love and warning, as did apostle Paul to Peter (Gal 2:11, 1 Tim 1:20, 2 Jhn 9). Not to condemn but to warn and save (Jude 1:23). WHAT WAS SATAN FROM THE BEGINNING? What is satan? he is a devil, a murderer from the beginning.(JHN 8:44) the word beginning means "where things began". now, Jesus said "the devil was a murderer from the beginning" JESUS; not you or theology! He (Jesus) said the devil was a murderer from the beginning! BEGINNING! Did you know the beginning? The BEGINNING (who is JESUS) said: satan (devil) was a murderer from the beginning. He NEVER said he was an ARK angel of worship, a leading angel of worship, nor an angel of light in the BEGINNING. He said "satan was a devil" from the beginning and that devil was a murderer. HOW DARE YOU TWIST THE WORD OF JESUS! JESUS is GOD, and my God (Jesus), is TRUTH, only he alone speaks the truth, the rest are liars, no matter who or what they are. You theologians like adding things that are not in the bible; you think you are wise and clever than JESUS(GOD)! You use scriptures to say things that are not in the bible. The bible further says he (satan) is a thief. As a thief to kill, steal and destroy (Jhn 10:10), a thief according to the bible has never entered or approached heaven (God’s throne). JESUS said where no thief approacheth" (Luk 12:33). How did he (satan) approach heaven when JESUS said no thief ever approached HEAVEN (God’s throne). God’s throne is God’s seat, and his throne is HEAVEN (Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). You are confused! Because you do not know which heaven is JESUS referring to! You must study “heaven, heavens, generations of heavens, heaven of heavens, heavenly” FIRST! Did you know that God created satan a serpent. He (satan, devil) is a serpent you read in Gen 3 which tempted the Eve. Verse 1 of Gen 3 says "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made" (KJV). DO YOU SEE ‘HATH MADE’! THE LORD GOD HATH MADE! That serpent is the same serpent you read in Rev 12:9, 20:2 is satan! And that serpent is a devil which the Lord God hath made in Gen 3:1 and you know that, it is just that your lying ‘theological’ nature does not permit you to accept that. If you ask benny hinn, hagee, td jakes and all preachers all over the world "who is the snake that tempted eve or the serpent that spoke to Eve, they will all say: ‘it is satan’. But they don’t want to accept that ‘the serpent is satan’ which God created in Gen 3:1. They are deceived (in error, led astray) like you. THEY ACCEPT what they want the rest they distort and refuse! God formed the crooked serpent by his hand (Job 26:13)KJV. The word ‘crooked’ means: evil, subtil, wicked, vile. Bismark (a Zimbabwean novice preacher), said and I quote: “serpent was a healer, good in the beginning, created to destroy viruses” while JESUS said: ‘’the devil (satan, serpent) was a murderer in the beginning’. Bismark who claims to be an apostle, preached this error (deception) at Eddie Long’s church in the US. Bismark further said: “the word subtle means, intellectual, the serpent was wise to clean the garden”. satan according to the bible is not intellectual, the word ‘subtil’ is the word: ‘evil, subtil, wicked, vile’. While he said that the people were screaming and shouting not hearing the error he was speaking. The heaven which is implicated and you read in Rev 12:7-8 which satan fell from is Gen 1:7-8. satan has never been in heaven (God’s throne, God’s seat); he (satan) is a murder a thief, a liar and God NEVER permits liars, murderers, thieves in his throne. Heaven is God's THRONE (seat)- Matt 23:22. It is not a place of fighting; it is God's ruling throne. AND HIS WILL IS DONE IN HEAVEN!(Mtt 6:9-10). Rev 12 is speaking about the birth Jesus, Mary, Herod (red dragon) who killed the 3rd of the children of Rama; and it reveals satan (great dragon,devil). Never take scriptures out of context and mix verses you have no business mixing.AS YOU DO EZEK 28 with ISAI 14. Isai 14:12 is a proverb against the king of Babylon (not satan), Ezek 28 is a lamentation against King of Tyrus. These two kings are evil kings, they had to be judged and cast to hell, the same way Jesus said would happen to Capernaum(Matt 11:23, Luk 10:15). Before you read Rev 12 have you read Rev 9. IF YOU HAVE NOT READ Rev 9, you will propagate and proliferate what you said because you have never read the bible from genesis to revelation non-stop. You have used your carnal mind and have taught what other deceivers have taught. GOD CREATED THE CROOKED SERPENT BY HIS HAND (Job 26:13). And that serpent is satan, devil, crooked serpent, liar, deceiver of all the world, great dragon, old serpent, belial, and he (satan) has his beginning as a devil and will burn in the lake of fire forever and ever (Rev 20:10). ALLELUIYA! satan is called the angel of the bottomless pit, not angel of heaven(read REV 9:11). He is a king over the evil beasts you read in the book of revelation. He is NEVER called LUCIFER but "They have as king over them, the angel of the BOTTOMLESSPIT; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon." The word abyss is the phrase in KJV "bottomless pit" not HEAVEN. The names of satan are ABADDON and APOLLYON, one is destructor and another destroyer. And God created the destroyer (waster) (Isai 54:16). Search the scriptures! You will see that for yourself. Do not add to the bible. Satan was NEVER an angel of light and has never been in heaven (God’s seat, God throne) leading worship. 2 Cor 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light". satan himself is transformed into an angel of LIGHT. HIMSELF! If he transformed himself to an angel of light, it means HE WAS NEVER an angel of light. That is faking! It is the same sin for which the evil angels in the book of Jude 1:6 are reserved in darkness for and in chains for, they are there for the sin of making themselves light as did satan (Jude 1:6). Satan transformed himself. The bible says HIMSELF! God never made him a worship angel of light. SATAN does that himself! NOT GOD made him an angel of light. The light is Jesus(Matt 4:16, Jhn 1:4-5,9, 3:19,8:12,9:5,12:35-36,46). satan WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF JESUS(LIGHT,GOD). AND GOD IS LIGHT AND GOD NEVER MADE satan an angel of worship! The scripture NEVER TEACHES that, you lying theologians teach that. You market satan as an angel of LIGHT(JESUS). In other words you are his (satan) messengers, false apostles, promoting satan (2 Cor 11:13-16). one false preacher said and I quote: “Lucifer[satan,devil] was holy, pure and he held an office of significance in heaven]”. What did JESUS say? He said he(satan) was a DEVIL [MURDERER] from the beginning but they say JESUS (GOD) is wrong, lying, they proclaim’ satan was an angel of worship, an ark angel protecting the throne (heaven, seat) of GOD. This is what lying pastors say! Furthermore if you claim LUCIFER to be satan as an anointed cherub. Do you know what you are doing? you are saying satan (devil, murderer from the beginning) was anointed. And do you know what the anointing is? it is the HOLY SPIRIT and POWER, that means you are saying satan had the HOLY SPIRIT and POWER. And that is a sin that WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN IN THIS WORLD AND IN THE WORLD TO COME. HARD! HMMM, this is an african preacher who is not afraid of theologians but a man who is a prince of the of the ROYAL BAKWENA BAMARE-A-PHOGOLE, Prophet S.STEPHEN Mogagabe. International Cell No.:+27820532122 (website http://mogagabess.magix.net/website). Address: PO Box 7001, Bamare-A-Phogole, 2843, South Africa. PART 2-DISCUSION I QUOTE WHAT YOU said: "My friend, you confuse me". NO! I do not confuse you are have been confused by lying pastors who taught you that satan was in heaven (God’s throne) when he was never in the heaven (throne of God) but heaven which is the firmament (Gen 1:7-8). the heaven you read in Rev 12 which you have quoted not in the KJV (which is another error you are doing not reading the bible in KJV), that HEAVEN is FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8)-read KJV! Thief (is satan), murderer is satan, dragon is satan, satan is devil, father of lies, ALL THIS WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne, God’s seat)! Did you not read what Jesus said when he said "thieves cannot approach HEAVEN". Satan is a murderer and murderers are never permitted (Rev 22:15,21:8) in heaven(God’s throne, God’s seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) GOD who said murderers are never permitted in heaven (Rev 22:15,21:8) has never changed; he has been the same and his word has never changed. God, is the same, yesterday, today and forever. If he (God and Word) said that; he has forever said that. When JESUS said: "I saw satan fall like lightning from heaven" this heaven you read is the same as the one you read in GEN 1:8 (read KJV). Because he (GOD) is the Lord God who created the heaven and the earth, and the same Lord God said “heaven is firmament”. The second part with all preachers you claim that there is one heaven , and you are lying. The bible teaches about heaven as: 1. firmament (sky) expanse, dome- Gen 1:7-8 KJV, this firmament (heaven) is going to be burned with fire together with the earth when God judgment takes place (2 Pet 3:12,7). this is the heaven where the PRINCE OF PERSIA withstood Gabriel the angel of God (Dan10:13). those whom the Lord Jesus showed this heaven knows and have seen it , and have said it is dark, evil and gross darkness, this is where the devil was. This is an evil spiritual celestial realm, called high places (Eph 6:12). 2. generations of heavens (Gen 2:1) 3. heavens Gen 2:1 KJV 4. heaven of heavens- this one look it for yourself! 5. heaven (God's throne) 1 king 22:19, psa 11:4 So before you confuse yourself; study heavens, heaven and all heavens in the bible; you will stop coming to hasty conclusions. JESUS IS NOT CONFUSED WHEN HE SAID HE SAW SATAN FALL LIKE A LIGHTING FROM HEAVEN; HE SAID FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8). BECAUSE HE(JESUS) WAS THE MAN CHILD WHO YOU HAVE READ OVER IN THE SAME BOOK OF REV 12:5 YOU’ve QUOTED! Rev 12 speaks of Jesus Birth as the man child who was caught up to HIS THRONE, DO YOU SEE THRONE, AND DO YOU SEE HEAVEN! TWO DIFFERENT WORDS USED IN THE SAME REVELATION 12! how blind can you be! Micheal and the dragon fought in the HEAVEN(FIRMAMENT)-GEN 1:7-8. John the apostle, wrote ‘throne; and ‘heaven’ in the same verse to show you the truth, but you still do not want to accept his testimony. Your eyes are covered with satanic blindness and deception! When you read Rev 12:1 is speaks of Mary the woman who is clothed and carrying what he is carrying, the red dragon is Herod who killed the 3rd of the children of RAMA (Matt 2:15-19,20), and the man child is JESUS who was caught up to his throne. The great dragon that dragon is not the red dragon, that great dragon which is not red is satan; and he (satan, devil, old serpent) was cast out of heaven (firmament). "AND LORD CALLED THE FIRMAMENT HEAVEN"(Gen 1:7-8).The firmament is called heaven! YOU CANNOT FIGHT IN GOD'S THRONE (HEAVEN, God seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). But you can fight in the firmament which is (heaven-the sky). This is the exact realm called high places (Eph 6:12), were the prince of Persia withstood Gabriel (Dan 10:13). This heaven (firmamanet) is not GOD’S THRONE (HEAVEN, SEAT). Before you start reading Rev 12 have you read revelation 9? where did that dragon you are reading about come from? THE BOTTOMLESS PIT! HE CAME AS A KING OVER THEM "evil creatures", and that king is called the angel of the bottomless pit, abaddon and appolyn". Do not jump verses! read, and read and read and read! Be humble let the word of God teach you, do not come with our opinions and thoughts. PART 3 DISCUSSION I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “If you care to read Isaiah 14:12 you will see that God is speaking of Satan as, Lucifer, son of the morning." STOP, YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! LUCIFER to be satan or as satan. All this is what theologians teach! And it is untrue, you like saying things you do not know, don't you! That verse you have quoted never said what you are claiming. You said: “you will see that God is speaking of satan”. THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT! GOD NEVER SPOKE THAT. YOU HAVE LIED ABOUT GOD AND HIS HOLY WORD! DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE PATORS IN HELL WHO ARE BURNING FOR TWISTING GOD’S HOLY WORD LIKE YOU. (Read the revelations of hell by those JESUS appointed and took to hell in order to record it for your learning). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer if you care to search the scripture's is a created being, one of only four angels mentioned [Michael, Gabriel, Lucifer and Apollyon] in the Bible." LYING! THERE IS MORE THAN FOUR ANGELS (Heb 12:22), and there are EVIL ANGELS (Psa 78:49), YOU LYING, THERE IS MORE THAN FOUR ANGELS, YOU LYING THING! YOU ARE FULL OF LIES, LUCIFER IS NOT AN ANGEL CREATED, THE BIBLE NEVER SAID THAT! WHICH BIBLE SAID THAT? NOT KJV, i sure know that, maybe it is the bible you have written or the one which benny hinn, tb jakes, myles , hagee are propagating. JESUS (GOD) said the devil, was a devil, murderer from the beginning, HE (JESUS) never ever said he was “LUCIFER”. The devil was a serpent subtil from the beginning. Read Gen 3:1, Job 26:13, Isai 54:16 the serpent was made a serpent (devil, waster). This serpent is called old serpent in the book of Revelation 12:9 I QOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Isaiah 14:12-15 declares that this created being who is named Lucifer, son of the morning, in his pride because of his desire to usurp God Almighty from His Throne, was thrown down out of Heaven where he [Lucifer] had a place of significance". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! “LUCIFER CREATED?”. HMM...ALL LIES! Lucifer ‘heylel’ is Light Bringer, Light Bearer, Morning Star. And Jesus is the Morning Star. Light bearer and bringer (Below I have quoted all the verses that shows us all that, look at them and stop your lies). Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus which you also misquote). Don’t be blind how can you mix two kings (tyrus and babylon) and make them satan. You are lying and you know that! LUCIFER [satan, devil] as you said HAD A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE? WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT? NO WHERE, NOT IN THE KJV OF THE BIBLE! IT IS YOUR OWN WORDS, NOT THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE NEVER SAID, AND I QUOTE YOUR WORDS: “his desire to usurp God Almighty from his throne”. YA! YOU ARE REALLY FULL OF LIES, REPENT AND BE SAVED FROM THE BURNING FIRE OF HELL THAT SHALL BURN ALL WHO MAKE LIES AND TWIST THE WORD OF GOD LIKE SATAN DID WHEN HE SPOKE TO EVE. Satan has never approached God’s heaven(seat), when did he enter heaven(Luk 12:33) , to usurp GOD Almighty as you claim? DO YOU KNOW WHO GOD ALMIGHTY IS? GOD ALMIGHTY IS JESUS (Isai 9:6). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “Lucifer [Satan, devil, dragon] said his haughtiness". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, LUCIFER IS SATAN WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT. Lucifer is Light Bringer, Light Bearer, Morning Star. And Jesus is the Morning Star, Light Bearer and Birnger (Below I have quoted all the verses that shows us all that, look at them and stop your lies). Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus which you also misquote). JESUS SAID: "the devil was a murderer from the beginning (Jhn 8:44)!"JESUS SAID THAT HE(satan) WAS A DEVIL, A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING NOT ANGEL of worship! JESUS SAID A “DEVIL” WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING! Not an angel of worship, ark angel, and protector of the throne of God from the BEGINNING. When things began he was a devil, a murderer NOT ANGEL OF WORSHIP,OR A PROTECTOR OF THE THRONE OF GOD AS YOU SAY! NOT WHAT YOU SAID. I DISAGREE AND REJECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, you are spreading evil lies, deception, iniquity, blasphemy and you make lies (Rev 22:15). JESUS is God! And God NEVER lies, He(JESUS) is the TRUTH. I QUOTE YOU SAID: "down out of Heaven where he [Lucifer] had a place of significance". LUCIFER[who you call satan] NEVER HAD A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE IN HEAVEN (GOD'S THRONE-seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! YOU LIE AGAIN BY SAYING LUCIFER IS, I QUOTE: Lucifer "[Satan, devil, dragon]". Satan NEVER held the title of LUCIFER ‘heylel’, LIGHT BEARER, LIGHT BRINGER, MORNING STAR. WHEN DID HE DO THAT , BECAUSE JESUS IS THE MORNING STAR. AND JESUS WHO IS THE LIGHT BEARER, BRINGER ‘heylel’, IS GOD, AND HE HAS BEEN GOD FOREVER. WHEN DID SATAN OCCUPY HIS(JESUS, GOD) PLACE? He(satan) has never and shall never!!! Never be morning star. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "And for this reason it cost him his esteemed place in heaven." YOU ARE LYING AGAIN "him" NEVER HAD AN ESTEEMED PLACE IN HEAVEN (GOD’S THRONE)! HEAVEN IS GOD’S THRONE (SEAT), AND HE (satan) NEVER HAD IT; THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT, IT IS WHAT ALL THEOLOGIANS TEACH! And you know you are lying. GOD'S THRONE (HEAVEN, God seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). SATAN[DRAGON,DEVIL,OLD SERPENT], is from the bottomlesspit READ THE BIBLE(Rev 9:1-13) NOT HEAVEN (God’s throne- God’s seat)! HEAVEN IS GOD'S THRONE! (Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) SATAN NEVER HAD A THRONE IN HEAVEN(GOD’S THRONE)! THE STAR OPENED THE BOTTOMLESS PIT (REV 9) AND EVIL CREATURES CAME OUT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT WAS A KING OVER THEM, THAT KING IS ABADDON, APOLYON, SATAN, DEVIL. THE BIBLE DID NOT SAY HE CAME OUT OF HEAVEN BUT OUT OF THE BOTTOMLES PIT! BUT YOU WON’T AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU LIED ABOUT THE BIBLE, you have jumped chapter 9, in your un-teachable attitude. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID:"the serpent, became the vessel through which this fallen angel Lucifer [Lucifer has the ability to disguise himself in any way] could communicate with Eve to beguile her". JESUS IS ‘heylel’ in KJV is written ‘LUCIFER’, and LUCIFER means (light bearer,light bringer, morning star). See verses and bible references I have listed below in the study, you will stop saying what you are saying. AHA, I WANTED to hear what you are saying and you made it clear that you are confused! SATAN IS NOT A FALLEN ANGEL! HE IS AN ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT AND THE KJV BIBLE SAYS THAT; NOT FALLEN ANGEL, BUT ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT! YOU ARE full of LYING, LUCIFER DOES NOT DISGUISE HIMSELF AND HAS NO ABILITY TO DISGUISE HIMSELF, NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT TEACH THAT, BUT LIKE ALL THEOLOGIANS YOU LIE ABOUT THINGS AND ADD TO THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE SAYS: "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.". IT NEVER SAID SATAN WAS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. IT SAYS HE IS AN ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT[Rev 9] NOT LUCIFER OF HEAVEN AS YOU SAID.THIS SCRIPTURE IS SAYING SATAN HIMSELF! DID YOU HEAR? Satan HIMSELF! IT NEVER SAID GOD MADE HIM AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, BUT SATAN HIMSELF! HE WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF LIGHT IN THE BEGINNING AND JESUS SAID THAT HE(satan) WAS A DEVIL IN THE BEGINNING! AND JESUS IS GOD, AND GOD(JESUS) SAID SATAN WAS A DEVIL (MURDERER) IN THE BEGINNING; I BELIEVE HIM(JESUS) NOT YOU! MY JESUS CHRIST NEVER LIES, you are the ones who lie. I QUOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: "No sir you are wrong in your assumption that the serpent is the devil, or Lucifer or Satan" THE BIBLE TEACHES US THAT SATAN IS AN OLD SERPENT(Rev 20:2)! DOES NOT IT! WHAT IS A SERPENT? OH! I SEE, YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE, YOU BELIEVE LIES; THE BIBLE CALLS SATAN AN OLD SERPENT, YOU SAY NO! HE IS NOT, HE IS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT(ark angel, throne protector of God, worship angel). SO WHAT ARE YOU? A CHILD OF SATAN OR GOD? YOU PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL NOT JESUS’ GOSPEL. THE BIBLE SAYS WE MUST NOT ACCEPT SUCH A PERSON LIKE YOU WHO PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL(2 Cor 11:4, 2 Jhn 1:10,9). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer led a rebellion in heaven against God and was thrown out of God's Kingdom taking with him 13 of the heavenly hosts". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! GOD'S ANGELS NEVER REBEL AND NEVER DO. THERE ARE HOLY ANGELS AND EVIL ANGELS.READ THE KJV (PS 78:49) "He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels [among them]". YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU DO NOT READ THE BIBLE, WAKE UP THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS. READ THE REVELATION OF HELL BY THOSE THE LORD JESUS HAVE SHOWED HELL, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS, CREATURES, BEASTS IN HELL, AND YOU WILL STOP, BLASPHEMING THE NAME OF JESUS. Be humble! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “was thrown out of God’s Kingdom”. HEY! YOU ARE RELY FULL OF LIES, SATAN WAS NEVER IN GOD’S KINGDOM, HE IS AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD NOT IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, HE WAS AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD, murderer, devil from the beginning. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? CAN’T YOU JUST ACCEPT THE SCRIPTURES THE WAY THEY ARE AND STOP ADDING TO THE HOLY WORD OF GOD(Deut 4:2,Prov 30:5). LUCIFER NEVER took 1/3 OF THE ANGELS; WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT. YOU HAVE LIED AGAIN. THE 1/3 OF THE STARS THAT FELL WHERE THE CHILDREN OF RAMA (Mat 2:15-18,20). "In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping [for] her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not." THE RED DRAGON you read in Rev 12 is HEROD. And the woman you read about in Rev 12:1-2 IS MARY and the man child is JESUS, who was caught up to HIS THRONE. DID YOU SEE HIS THRONE IN THAT KJV BIBLE. HEAVEN IS JESUS THRONE! AND HE SAT ON IT! As he sat on his throne he saw SATAN FALL FROM HEAVEN (FIRMAMENT) (READ GEN 1:7-8). This heaven is not GOD's throne but the sky the KJV say FIRMAMENT! By the time satan fell, JESUS was sitting in his throne (heaven- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "You can read about this revolution in Isaiah 14:12-20 and Ezekiel 28:11-19. Ezekiel's lamentation concerning this fallen-being gives one an indication of the beauty of Lucifer." HMM.., FULL OF LIES..YOU STILL YOU MIX EZEK 28 WITH ISAI 14, that’s what all liars say. You teach deception, deceit, error, lies, doctrines of devils not JESUS DOCTRINE! Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus (Ezek 28) which you also misquote). I have heard that and the bible does not say that error, deception! THE BIBLE SAYS: "That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon" IT NEVER SAID SATAN! It said king of Babylon. DOES YOUR BIBLE HAVE KING OF BABYLON or did it change itself to replace the phrase “king of Babylon” to satan. I GUESS NOT! YOU ARE STILL FULL OF LIES, YOU TWIST VERSES AND BIBLE SCRIPTURES. THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU! EZEK 28, is a lamentation to the King of Tyrus, not satan. YOU ARE FULL OF LIES! I QOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: “Furthermore if you care to read up on Job 1:6-7, you will see that the sons of God, the angels, came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan was among them [v6]" STOP! HERE IS ANOTHER LIE, SONS OF GOD, THE ANGELS, NEVER!!! THE BIBLE SAYS THE SONS OF GOD NOT ANGELS, THE KJV SAYS: “SONS OF GOD”. ANGELS ARE NEVER SONS! AND THEY WILL NEVER BE FOR ETERNITY. THE SCRIPURE SAYS: "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? " Heb 1:5 ANGELS ARE NEVER SONS , THAT IS ANOTHER LIE WHICH THEOLOGIANS AND PASTORS PREACH! YOU LIE ALL THE TIME! THERE IS NO ANGEL WHICH IS A SON OR SONS! I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY GOD NEVER ALLOWED ME TO STUDY THEOLOGY, THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR PROTECTING ME FROM LIES. I GIVE YOU HONOUR AND GLORY. THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING MY HEART FROM DECEPTION BY YOUR HOLY WORD. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Notice that Satan says walking. If Satan as you say is a serpent then how come he is walking as verse 7". THIS IS ANOTHER CONFUSION; YOU FORGOT WHAT THE BIBLE SAY: HE IS A FATHER OF LIES.THIEF, MURDERER, DEVIL, DRAGON, ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, SERPENT (OLD SERPENT). YOU QUOTED THE WORDS OF satan, you quoted his lies. God never said that; but satan said that, so satan’s children like to say what you are saying. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "So Satan, devil, Lucifer is summoned from time to time to appear before God Almighty,because God is still the Sovereign Ruler of his creation, and when He summons angels, fallen or otherwise they obey. " YOU ARE LYING; THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY SATAN IS LUCIFER THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE LIKE THAT IN THE BIBLE; AND NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT SATAN APPEARED BEFORE GOD FROM TIME TO TIME! NO WHERE! HE IS AN ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN (Rev 9:10); BUT THE SCRIPTURE NEVER SAID HE APPEARS BEFORE GOD FROM TIME TO TIME. THE KJV SAYS: “for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before God DAY AND NIGHT”. DO YOU SEE DAY AND NIGHT? Not from time to time, you are a liar, you add to the bible, and the same book of Revelation says: “if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add him the plagues that are written in this book, and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, GOD shall take away his part out of the book of life” (Rev 22:18-19). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer is known by several different names. Rev 12:9 states, "And the great dragon was cast out, 'that old serpent', called the Devil, and Satan which deceives the whole world". DO YOU SEE THIS VERSE YOU HAVE QUOTED? IT SAYS GREAT DRAGON, OLD SERPENT, CALLED THE DEVIL AND SATAN”. Do you see that there is no angel of worship, or ark angel or Lucifer. IT SAYS SATAN! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU STILL BLIND, THAT YOU CAN’T SEE THE VERSE YOU HAVE QUOTED? WHEN I CAST OUT DEVILS; I HEAR THEM SAY “I AM LUCIFER”, THEY ARE STILL LYING EVEN IF THEY SAY THAT; THEY ARE LIARS AND SATAN IS THE FATHER OF LIES. LUCIFER IS NOT SATAN, LUCIFER IS THE HEBREW WORD, WHICH MEANS: “heylel”. This word means: light bringer, light bearer (Acts 9:3, Jhn 12:46,36,35, 9:5, 3:21,19, 1:9,5,4 ). ONLY JESUS IS THE LIGHT AND LIGHT BEARER AND BRINGER! SATAN HAS NEVER BEEN A LIGHT BEARER AND BRINGER, JESUS SAID HE WAS A MURDERER, DEVIL FROM BEGINNING. JESUS NEVER SAID HE(satan) IS A LIGHT BEARER, DID HE? YOU ARE SAYING JESUS “SAID HE(satan) IS A LIGHT BEARER, BRINGER AND THAT MAKES YOU A LIAR (DEVIL). YOU ARE A LIAR! A DEVIL, CHILD OF SATAN, THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU AND IN YOU TONGUE, REPENT! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "but rather the man-child spoken of is the many Jews who will come into repentance during the Great Tribulation." YOU ARE LYING, child of satan! THE BIBLE SAYS THE MAN CHILD NOT JEWS! AND IT SAYS “TO HIS THRONE”, NOT THEIR THRONES! YOU ARE LYING, little viper! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Your continuous mention that Satan was never an angel of light is unfounded because scripture implies that he was (2 Corinthians 11:14)." YOU LIKE QUOTING VERSES YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND, DON’T YOU? YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, IT SAY SATAN HIMSELF! NOT GOD HIMSELF TRANSFORMED HIM (satan) INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT". HE (devil) WAS NEVER angel of worship, HE (satan) TRANSFORMED HIMSELF, HE WAS NEVER an angel of worship, leading worship BY CREATION, HE DOES THAT(transformation) HIMSELF! DO NOT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES! IF HE (satan) TRANSFORMS/TRANSFORMED HIMSELF, INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, IT MEANS HE (satan) WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF WORSHIP, LIGHT. YOUR IGNORANCE IS HUGE AND BLINDING YOU. Satan was created serpent (waster, devil, murderer)- Read Gen 3:1, Job 26:13, Isai 54:16 the serpent was made a serpent (devil, waster).. YOU ARE MARKETING HIM (satan) AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT WHEN JESUS SAID HE WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING! In simple terms you are his servants doing satan’s bidding marketing him to be good, while he was a devil, murderer from the beginning. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Satan was in his original state the Morning star. He was once known as the [bright day-star] morning star". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN HE WAS NEVER A MORNING STAR THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT, HE (satan) WAS NEVER A BRIGHT DAY STAR, YOU SAY THAT NOT THE KJV BIBLE. JESUS SAID: “HE WAS DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING” (Jhn 8:44). HIS ORIGINAL STATE WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER ACCORDING TO JESUS (GOD). AND YOU ARE NOT GOD (JESUS), you are a liar. YOU ARE AGAINST GOD’S WORD AND GOD IS HIS WORD (Jhn 1:1).YOU SAY HE (satan) WAS A MORNING STAR, HOW CONFUSED CAN YOU BE! YOU ARE CHILDREN OF SATAN, YOU TWIST SCRIPTURES, THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID : "Jesus Christ is now the worthy title holder of "the bright morning star". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, JESUS HAS BEEN WORTHY BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD! JESUS HAS NEVER BEEN UNWORTHY! HE WAS WITH GOD AND IS GOD, MIGHTY GOD (Jhn 1:1, Isai 9:6). HE IS THE MORNING STAR IN OUR HEARTS!(2 Pet 1:9, Rev 22:16). JESUS WAS, AND IS THE MORNING STAR FOREVER. HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER. SATAN NEVER HELD THE TITLE OF MORNING STAR. JESUS IS THE MORNING STAR FOREVER. HE IS THE BEGINNING (MORNING STAR) AND THE END (MORNING STAR). MORNING STAR IN THE KJV IS DAY STAR! DONT LIE TO ME! I HATE LIES! I HAVE RECEIVED THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH (JESUS). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Satan when he was Lucifer in heaven was an anointed cherub, because God set it so". YOU ARE FULL OF LIES ARENT YOU? SATAN when he was lucifer? JESUS SAID HE WAS A DEVIL FROM THE BEGINNING. THE BEGINNING IS WHERE THINGS BEGAN! HE BEGAN A DEVIL NOT AN ANOINTED CHERUB! AND JESUS SAID THAT!(Jhn 8:44). YOU SAY, “because God set it so’. NO WHERE DID GOD SET IS SO IN THE WHOLE KJV BIBLE. YOU SAY HE(satan) WAS ANOINTED? NO; HE WAS NEVER, SATAN WAS NEVER ANOINTED AND WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne)! WHEN THE ANOINTING COMES ON YOU CANNOT LIE AND YOU ABIDE IN THE TRUTH!(1 JHN 2:27). SATAN NEVER ABODE IN THE TRUTH (Jhn 8:44). THE ANOINTING IS THE HOLY SPIRIT AND POWER! (Acts 10:38).HOW WAS SATAN ANOINTED WITH THE HOLY GHOST? YOU ARE LYING AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE LYING! Child of satan! Your tongue is full of poison (false doctrine, doctrine of devils, seducing spirits). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID "As an anointed cherub he walked in beauty and splendor amongst the Holy Mountain of God, up and down in the midst of the stones of fire, Ezekiel 28:14. Yes he was an anointed angel; but lost that pure, holy and perfect anointed state because of rebellion. But Satan can, given the opportunity anoint a human being with evil, hatred, murder, envy, maliciousness, corruption etc.” YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, HE WAS NEVER PURE, HOLY AND PERFECT, JESUS said he was a devil (murderer) from the beginning! SO ACCORDING TO YOU, satan was holy, pure, in other words, you are a satan worshipper, you proclaim him to have been holy and pure, WHEN JESUS said he (satan) was a DEVIL, MURDERER from the BEGINNING (Jhn 8:44). YOU ARE NOT arguing with me, you are arguing against GOD (Jesus), who said: “he (satan) was a DEVIL, MURDERER from the BEGINNING” (Jhn 8:44). And be rest assured you will never win against GOD (Jesus)-Acts 5:39, 23:9. No matter how ,much you try to come up with ways to make your ‘lies’ complex, you will remain a liar and GOD (Jesus), will remain true. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "My writings are purely research based on facts and scripturally sound”. SO FAR NOTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS BIBLICAL; IT IS CARNAL AND THEOLOGIAL, AS ALL THEOLOGIANS LIE; YOU HAVE SAID EXACTLY THAT (LIE); IT IS NOTHING NEW BUT WHAT THEY TEACH! MAY BE YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID: “my writings are evily satanic based of satan and satan spoken”. NOTHING YOU SAY IS BIBLICAL! REPENT FOR THERE IS HELL FIRE AND THE LAKE OF FIRE THAT WILL DESTROY FOREVER AND EVER THOSE WHO MAKE LIES LIKE YOU (Rev 21:27, 22:15). TODAY, YOU ARE GIVEN A CHANCE TO REPENT AND TURN FROM YOUR WICKED WAYS! (I, S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE, PROPHET OF THE LIVING GOD; FORGIVE YOU THIS DAY, FOR SPEAKING LIES WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD OTHERS SPEAK, HAVE WROTE AND TEACH, I FORGIVE YOU IN JESUS NAME. AND I URGE EVERYONE WHO WILL READ THIS MESSAGE TO FORGIVE ALL THOSE WHO SPOKE THIS ERROR AND DECEIT. FORGIVE THEM; BUT CONTINUE TO STAND AGAINST ERROR [DECEPTION], DOCTRINES OF DEVILS (1 Tim 4:1). IF YOU SEE YOUR BROTHER ERR, CORRECT AND REBUKE HIM, IN THAT WAY YOU WOULD HAVE SAVED HIM FROM DEATH (Lev 19:17, 1 Jhn 5:16)). PART 4 DISCUSSION I QUOTE: YOU SAID "Now, you do raise an interesting point about the Son's of God. I don't believe that the "son's of God in Genesis 6 are angels but I do believe the one's in Job are. [shrug] Satan and the other sons of God were angels but as we learned in several places; Jude, James and Revelation, they rebelled against God. YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! AS ALL THEOLOGIANS DO! Gen 6 is talking about the “SONS OF GOD” it NEVER said they are angels. It said they are SONS OF GOD, read the KJV bible. WHICH OF THE ANGELS DID GOD EVER SAY YOU ARE MY SON? ANSWER ME! WHICH? NONE IN ALL THE BIBLE, YOU HAVE HEARD THAT FROM THEOLOGIANS WHO ADD TO THE BIBLE AND READ IT IN PIECES. HEB1:5 READ IT IN KJV! THE BOOK OF JOB IS SPEAKING about the "sons of GOD" not angels! READ KJV! YOU SAID AGAIN "satan amongst angels". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! Read KJV it says satan amongst the SONS OF GOD! HOW CROOKED can you be! SONS AND ANGELS ARE NOT THE SAME AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME FOREVER AND EVER! DO NOT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES YOUR IDEAS. READ HEB 1:5 BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND AND CONFUSED, YOU SAID: "I believe that he was an angel created by God to serve but who rebelled". WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY HE WAS AN ANGEL WHO SERVED? SATAN WAS NEVER AND ANGEL WHO SERVED! NEVER! HE (satan) WAS A DEVIL (MURDERER) FROM THE BEGINNING AND JESUS (GOD) SAID THAT. You are all saying that JESUS is a LIAR because you think He (JESUS) is lying, JESUS SAID HE (satan) WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING. When things began he (satan, devil) began a devil (murderer). THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH! and JESUS who said that is GOD and LORD.AMEN! I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART, HE IS MY GOD AND I WILL NEVER BE ASHAMED OF HIS WORDS. I LOVE THEM AND I WILL ABIDE IN THEM FOREVER. YOU SAID AGAIN: "Jude6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" KJV. DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS? Read the bible those are the angels. Read Psa 78:49 (read KJV). BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND, LET ME OPEN UP YOUR EYES. 1. ANGELS ARE SPIRITS (search for this verse, you will see it in the bible) 2. EVIL ANGELS (Psa 78:49), are EVIL SPIRITS 3. EVIL SPIRITS ARE DEMONS, DEVILS 4. WHEN YOU READ THE REVELATION OF HELL, by those JESUS appeared to, they have recorded, that Jesus said: “the demon which was cast out, was having one wing, the other wing broke, when the man of God cast it out to the abyss (deep)”. THE PROBLEM WITH YOU PASTORS YOU ARE NOT HUMBLE, YOU REFUSE THE BIBLE AND PREACH LIES IN JESUS CHURCH (Acts 20:28). You are become [grievous] ravening wolves (Acts 20:29). CONCLUSION: I am not against preachers, I love them, I urge them to repent, I am 100% against lies they have taught and teach. If and when they repent our Heavenly Father will forgive them, Jesus will forgive them, and the Holy Spirit will forgive them. I urge you to study the bible correctly with the Holy Spirit, and preach the truth of God whether people [co-partners or pastors] like you or not. JESUS never lies and never lied, he is THE TRUTH. I desire all preachers teach no other doctrine, but Christ’s doctrine and sound doctrine. I am here to tell you to repent, for I am sent to warn you and to tell you to return to the bible. Do not preach lies, fables, stories. Preach the word in season out of season, line upon line, precept upon precept, teach the sound doctrine and add nothing to it. Do your best to read the revelations of hell and heaven by those whom the Lord appeared to, I read them, I soak myself in them for they are the words of JESUS to warn this perverse and adulterous generation. Now i declare unto you this day as a prophet of the living God, i forgive you. i forgive you for teaching error(doctrine of devils, spirit of error) in the church. i stand on behalf of the church of the living God, i stand to forgive you, start today to preach the truth. your sins are forgiven. I forgive you benny hinn, td jakes, myles, hagee, i forgive you in Jesus name! Start afresh! Jesus (God) loves you. I release you from that chain of satan, that held your tongue and release you from accusation. The anointing will teach you all things From PRINCE S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE To contact PRINCE S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE (Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe) Email: mogagabess@yahoo.com Website: http://mogagabess.magix.net/website Cell Number: +27820532122 (International Line) Address: PO BOX 7001, BAMARE-A-PHOGOLE, 2843, SOUTH AFRICA BIOGRAPHY OF PROPHET S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE S.Stephen Mogagabe is the first born son of King Harry Diale and Queen Pauline of the Royal Bakwena Bamare-A-Phogole Nation, a nation of black people in South Africa, whose land was taken away from them by whites in order to mine gold from it. Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe, has learned valuable lessons from his up-bringing in pains, sufferings and imprisonment for lies. From these experiences he stand fast and firm on the word of KING JESUS. He is unmovable from the words of his KING. He suffered tortures at age fourteen until twenty five for standing for JESUS and accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour. He is sent into the ministry as a prophet to correct teachers, leaders, kings and world presidents, this was the first anointing that came upon his life. The second anointing he received was teaching, to teach God’s sheep the word of God. He has seen many angels, and spoke to them and have answered their questions, recently has seen a man from heaven, who taught him the bible, and has also seen the hand of the Lord, and the Lord Jesus gave him words to tell the people. He is not sent to entertain but to tear down lies that are taught in church, and to tell people to return to the bible. Of recent, his right hand and finger vanishes when he speaks to people God’s word, as a sign for his calling (see pictures of the man of God, prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe). You may request the pictures of the vanishing prophet at mogagabess@yahoo.com.

LUCIFER THEOLOGY IS NOT TRUE (PART 1-4) by Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe This message has been send to over 3000 US churches, seminaries, theologians, theology lecturers and professors, to South African, Africa, and Asian famous pastors, and pastors, evangelists, teachers, bible schools. Many have asked for forgiveness as a result of hearing this message from the man of God, prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe though email. Korean missionaries have asked for more lessons and have accepted the truth revealed to them in the scriptures. The man of God, has send the same messages to US pastors who are pastoring big churches, ministries, para-churches, networks and most importantly to benny hinn, myles, td jakes, hagee, ernest angley, creflo dollar, jimmy swaggart, dag mills, jerry savelle, bismark and etc. Many US theology universities, colleges and seminaries have accepted the correction, including pastors networks, apostles and prophetic teams, women breakfast networks. From over 3000 emails sent to churches, pastors, seminaries, we have thus far received only four (4) replies who have rejected the bible truth, and remain deceived, and refuse to accept the bible truth sent to them for warning and correction. TO : SENIOR PASTORS, EVANGELISTS, PASTORS, TEACHERS, CHURCH MEMBERS PART 1 DISCUSSION Look about your ‘lucifer theology’ you are lying! You are a deceiver William Cook; you teach 100% lies of satan which benny hinn, myles, td jakes and john hagee are teaching. Look, I am not against them, I am against the lies they have propagated by lack of bible study and reading by the help of the Holy Spirit, taking other (deceivers)people’s references, books and thoughts and saying the same error to millions of children in faith(novices), who are defenseless and without bible truths. In Africa, there are thousands of pastors and millions who have heard them say that error, and are preaching the same thing (deception, error), till today. Their influence above other pastors, when it comes to unbiblical doctrine must be questioned with love and warning, as did apostle Paul to Peter (Gal 2:11, 1 Tim 1:20, 2 Jhn 9). Not to condemn but to warn and save (Jude 1:23). WHAT WAS SATAN FROM THE BEGINNING? What is satan? he is a devil, a murderer from the beginning.(JHN 8:44) the word beginning means "where things began". now, Jesus said "the devil was a murderer from the beginning" JESUS; not you or theology! He (Jesus) said the devil was a murderer from the beginning! BEGINNING! Did you know the beginning? The BEGINNING (who is JESUS) said: satan (devil) was a murderer from the beginning. He NEVER said he was an ARK angel of worship, a leading angel of worship, nor an angel of light in the BEGINNING. He said "satan was a devil" from the beginning and that devil was a murderer. HOW DARE YOU TWIST THE WORD OF JESUS! JESUS is GOD, and my God (Jesus), is TRUTH, only he alone speaks the truth, the rest are liars, no matter who or what they are. You theologians like adding things that are not in the bible; you think you are wise and clever than JESUS(GOD)! You use scriptures to say things that are not in the bible. The bible further says he (satan) is a thief. As a thief to kill, steal and destroy (Jhn 10:10), a thief according to the bible has never entered or approached heaven (God’s throne). JESUS said where no thief approacheth" (Luk 12:33). How did he (satan) approach heaven when JESUS said no thief ever approached HEAVEN (God’s throne). God’s throne is God’s seat, and his throne is HEAVEN (Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). You are confused! Because you do not know which heaven is JESUS referring to! You must study “heaven, heavens, generations of heavens, heaven of heavens, heavenly” FIRST! Did you know that God created satan a serpent. He (satan, devil) is a serpent you read in Gen 3 which tempted the Eve. Verse 1 of Gen 3 says "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made" (KJV). DO YOU SEE ‘HATH MADE’! THE LORD GOD HATH MADE! That serpent is the same serpent you read in Rev 12:9, 20:2 is satan! And that serpent is a devil which the Lord God hath made in Gen 3:1 and you know that, it is just that your lying ‘theological’ nature does not permit you to accept that. If you ask benny hinn, hagee, td jakes and all preachers all over the world "who is the snake that tempted eve or the serpent that spoke to Eve, they will all say: ‘it is satan’. But they don’t want to accept that ‘the serpent is satan’ which God created in Gen 3:1. They are deceived (in error, led astray) like you. THEY ACCEPT what they want the rest they distort and refuse! God formed the crooked serpent by his hand (Job 26:13)KJV. The word ‘crooked’ means: evil, subtil, wicked, vile. Bismark (a Zimbabwean novice preacher), said and I quote: “serpent was a healer, good in the beginning, created to destroy viruses” while JESUS said: ‘’the devil (satan, serpent) was a murderer in the beginning’. Bismark who claims to be an apostle, preached this error (deception) at Eddie Long’s church in the US. Bismark further said: “the word subtle means, intellectual, the serpent was wise to clean the garden”. satan according to the bible is not intellectual, the word ‘subtil’ is the word: ‘evil, subtil, wicked, vile’. While he said that the people were screaming and shouting not hearing the error he was speaking. The heaven which is implicated and you read in Rev 12:7-8 which satan fell from is Gen 1:7-8. satan has never been in heaven (God’s throne, God’s seat); he (satan) is a murder a thief, a liar and God NEVER permits liars, murderers, thieves in his throne. Heaven is God's THRONE (seat)- Matt 23:22. It is not a place of fighting; it is God's ruling throne. AND HIS WILL IS DONE IN HEAVEN!(Mtt 6:9-10). Rev 12 is speaking about the birth Jesus, Mary, Herod (red dragon) who killed the 3rd of the children of Rama; and it reveals satan (great dragon,devil). Never take scriptures out of context and mix verses you have no business mixing.AS YOU DO EZEK 28 with ISAI 14. Isai 14:12 is a proverb against the king of Babylon (not satan), Ezek 28 is a lamentation against King of Tyrus. These two kings are evil kings, they had to be judged and cast to hell, the same way Jesus said would happen to Capernaum(Matt 11:23, Luk 10:15). Before you read Rev 12 have you read Rev 9. IF YOU HAVE NOT READ Rev 9, you will propagate and proliferate what you said because you have never read the bible from genesis to revelation non-stop. You have used your carnal mind and have taught what other deceivers have taught. GOD CREATED THE CROOKED SERPENT BY HIS HAND (Job 26:13). And that serpent is satan, devil, crooked serpent, liar, deceiver of all the world, great dragon, old serpent, belial, and he (satan) has his beginning as a devil and will burn in the lake of fire forever and ever (Rev 20:10). ALLELUIYA! satan is called the angel of the bottomless pit, not angel of heaven(read REV 9:11). He is a king over the evil beasts you read in the book of revelation. He is NEVER called LUCIFER but "They have as king over them, the angel of the BOTTOMLESSPIT; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon." The word abyss is the phrase in KJV "bottomless pit" not HEAVEN. The names of satan are ABADDON and APOLLYON, one is destructor and another destroyer. And God created the destroyer (waster) (Isai 54:16). Search the scriptures! You will see that for yourself. Do not add to the bible. Satan was NEVER an angel of light and has never been in heaven (God’s seat, God throne) leading worship. 2 Cor 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light". satan himself is transformed into an angel of LIGHT. HIMSELF! If he transformed himself to an angel of light, it means HE WAS NEVER an angel of light. That is faking! It is the same sin for which the evil angels in the book of Jude 1:6 are reserved in darkness for and in chains for, they are there for the sin of making themselves light as did satan (Jude 1:6). Satan transformed himself. The bible says HIMSELF! God never made him a worship angel of light. SATAN does that himself! NOT GOD made him an angel of light. The light is Jesus(Matt 4:16, Jhn 1:4-5,9, 3:19,8:12,9:5,12:35-36,46). satan WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF JESUS(LIGHT,GOD). AND GOD IS LIGHT AND GOD NEVER MADE satan an angel of worship! The scripture NEVER TEACHES that, you lying theologians teach that. You market satan as an angel of LIGHT(JESUS). In other words you are his (satan) messengers, false apostles, promoting satan (2 Cor 11:13-16). one false preacher said and I quote: “Lucifer[satan,devil] was holy, pure and he held an office of significance in heaven]”. What did JESUS say? He said he(satan) was a DEVIL [MURDERER] from the beginning but they say JESUS (GOD) is wrong, lying, they proclaim’ satan was an angel of worship, an ark angel protecting the throne (heaven, seat) of GOD. This is what lying pastors say! Furthermore if you claim LUCIFER to be satan as an anointed cherub. Do you know what you are doing? you are saying satan (devil, murderer from the beginning) was anointed. And do you know what the anointing is? it is the HOLY SPIRIT and POWER, that means you are saying satan had the HOLY SPIRIT and POWER. And that is a sin that WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN IN THIS WORLD AND IN THE WORLD TO COME. HARD! HMMM, this is an african preacher who is not afraid of theologians but a man who is a prince of the of the ROYAL BAKWENA BAMARE-A-PHOGOLE, Prophet S.STEPHEN Mogagabe. International Cell No.:+27820532122 (website http://mogagabess.magix.net/website). Address: PO Box 7001, Bamare-A-Phogole, 2843, South Africa. PART 2-DISCUSION I QUOTE WHAT YOU said: "My friend, you confuse me". NO! I do not confuse you are have been confused by lying pastors who taught you that satan was in heaven (God’s throne) when he was never in the heaven (throne of God) but heaven which is the firmament (Gen 1:7-8). the heaven you read in Rev 12 which you have quoted not in the KJV (which is another error you are doing not reading the bible in KJV), that HEAVEN is FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8)-read KJV! Thief (is satan), murderer is satan, dragon is satan, satan is devil, father of lies, ALL THIS WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne, God’s seat)! Did you not read what Jesus said when he said "thieves cannot approach HEAVEN". Satan is a murderer and murderers are never permitted (Rev 22:15,21:8) in heaven(God’s throne, God’s seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) GOD who said murderers are never permitted in heaven (Rev 22:15,21:8) has never changed; he has been the same and his word has never changed. God, is the same, yesterday, today and forever. If he (God and Word) said that; he has forever said that. When JESUS said: "I saw satan fall like lightning from heaven" this heaven you read is the same as the one you read in GEN 1:8 (read KJV). Because he (GOD) is the Lord God who created the heaven and the earth, and the same Lord God said “heaven is firmament”. The second part with all preachers you claim that there is one heaven , and you are lying. The bible teaches about heaven as: 1. firmament (sky) expanse, dome- Gen 1:7-8 KJV, this firmament (heaven) is going to be burned with fire together with the earth when God judgment takes place (2 Pet 3:12,7). this is the heaven where the PRINCE OF PERSIA withstood Gabriel the angel of God (Dan10:13). those whom the Lord Jesus showed this heaven knows and have seen it , and have said it is dark, evil and gross darkness, this is where the devil was. This is an evil spiritual celestial realm, called high places (Eph 6:12). 2. generations of heavens (Gen 2:1) 3. heavens Gen 2:1 KJV 4. heaven of heavens- this one look it for yourself! 5. heaven (God's throne) 1 king 22:19, psa 11:4 So before you confuse yourself; study heavens, heaven and all heavens in the bible; you will stop coming to hasty conclusions. JESUS IS NOT CONFUSED WHEN HE SAID HE SAW SATAN FALL LIKE A LIGHTING FROM HEAVEN; HE SAID FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8). BECAUSE HE(JESUS) WAS THE MAN CHILD WHO YOU HAVE READ OVER IN THE SAME BOOK OF REV 12:5 YOU’ve QUOTED! Rev 12 speaks of Jesus Birth as the man child who was caught up to HIS THRONE, DO YOU SEE THRONE, AND DO YOU SEE HEAVEN! TWO DIFFERENT WORDS USED IN THE SAME REVELATION 12! how blind can you be! Micheal and the dragon fought in the HEAVEN(FIRMAMENT)-GEN 1:7-8. John the apostle, wrote ‘throne; and ‘heaven’ in the same verse to show you the truth, but you still do not want to accept his testimony. Your eyes are covered with satanic blindness and deception! When you read Rev 12:1 is speaks of Mary the woman who is clothed and carrying what he is carrying, the red dragon is Herod who killed the 3rd of the children of RAMA (Matt 2:15-19,20), and the man child is JESUS who was caught up to his throne. The great dragon that dragon is not the red dragon, that great dragon which is not red is satan; and he (satan, devil, old serpent) was cast out of heaven (firmament). "AND LORD CALLED THE FIRMAMENT HEAVEN"(Gen 1:7-8).The firmament is called heaven! YOU CANNOT FIGHT IN GOD'S THRONE (HEAVEN, God seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). But you can fight in the firmament which is (heaven-the sky). This is the exact realm called high places (Eph 6:12), were the prince of Persia withstood Gabriel (Dan 10:13). This heaven (firmamanet) is not GOD’S THRONE (HEAVEN, SEAT). Before you start reading Rev 12 have you read revelation 9? where did that dragon you are reading about come from? THE BOTTOMLESS PIT! HE CAME AS A KING OVER THEM "evil creatures", and that king is called the angel of the bottomless pit, abaddon and appolyn". Do not jump verses! read, and read and read and read! Be humble let the word of God teach you, do not come with our opinions and thoughts. PART 3 DISCUSSION I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “If you care to read Isaiah 14:12 you will see that God is speaking of Satan as, Lucifer, son of the morning." STOP, YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! LUCIFER to be satan or as satan. All this is what theologians teach! And it is untrue, you like saying things you do not know, don't you! That verse you have quoted never said what you are claiming. You said: “you will see that God is speaking of satan”. THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT! GOD NEVER SPOKE THAT. YOU HAVE LIED ABOUT GOD AND HIS HOLY WORD! DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE PATORS IN HELL WHO ARE BURNING FOR TWISTING GOD’S HOLY WORD LIKE YOU. (Read the revelations of hell by those JESUS appointed and took to hell in order to record it for your learning). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer if you care to search the scripture's is a created being, one of only four angels mentioned [Michael, Gabriel, Lucifer and Apollyon] in the Bible." LYING! THERE IS MORE THAN FOUR ANGELS (Heb 12:22), and there are EVIL ANGELS (Psa 78:49), YOU LYING, THERE IS MORE THAN FOUR ANGELS, YOU LYING THING! YOU ARE FULL OF LIES, LUCIFER IS NOT AN ANGEL CREATED, THE BIBLE NEVER SAID THAT! WHICH BIBLE SAID THAT? NOT KJV, i sure know that, maybe it is the bible you have written or the one which benny hinn, tb jakes, myles , hagee are propagating. JESUS (GOD) said the devil, was a devil, murderer from the beginning, HE (JESUS) never ever said he was “LUCIFER”. The devil was a serpent subtil from the beginning. Read Gen 3:1, Job 26:13, Isai 54:16 the serpent was made a serpent (devil, waster). This serpent is called old serpent in the book of Revelation 12:9 I QOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Isaiah 14:12-15 declares that this created being who is named Lucifer, son of the morning, in his pride because of his desire to usurp God Almighty from His Throne, was thrown down out of Heaven where he [Lucifer] had a place of significance". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! “LUCIFER CREATED?”. HMM...ALL LIES! Lucifer ‘heylel’ is Light Bringer, Light Bearer, Morning Star. And Jesus is the Morning Star. Light bearer and bringer (Below I have quoted all the verses that shows us all that, look at them and stop your lies). Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus which you also misquote). Don’t be blind how can you mix two kings (tyrus and babylon) and make them satan. You are lying and you know that! LUCIFER [satan, devil] as you said HAD A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE? WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT? NO WHERE, NOT IN THE KJV OF THE BIBLE! IT IS YOUR OWN WORDS, NOT THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE NEVER SAID, AND I QUOTE YOUR WORDS: “his desire to usurp God Almighty from his throne”. YA! YOU ARE REALLY FULL OF LIES, REPENT AND BE SAVED FROM THE BURNING FIRE OF HELL THAT SHALL BURN ALL WHO MAKE LIES AND TWIST THE WORD OF GOD LIKE SATAN DID WHEN HE SPOKE TO EVE. Satan has never approached God’s heaven(seat), when did he enter heaven(Luk 12:33) , to usurp GOD Almighty as you claim? DO YOU KNOW WHO GOD ALMIGHTY IS? GOD ALMIGHTY IS JESUS (Isai 9:6). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “Lucifer [Satan, devil, dragon] said his haughtiness". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, LUCIFER IS SATAN WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT. Lucifer is Light Bringer, Light Bearer, Morning Star. And Jesus is the Morning Star, Light Bearer and Birnger (Below I have quoted all the verses that shows us all that, look at them and stop your lies). Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus which you also misquote). JESUS SAID: "the devil was a murderer from the beginning (Jhn 8:44)!"JESUS SAID THAT HE(satan) WAS A DEVIL, A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING NOT ANGEL of worship! JESUS SAID A “DEVIL” WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING! Not an angel of worship, ark angel, and protector of the throne of God from the BEGINNING. When things began he was a devil, a murderer NOT ANGEL OF WORSHIP,OR A PROTECTOR OF THE THRONE OF GOD AS YOU SAY! NOT WHAT YOU SAID. I DISAGREE AND REJECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, you are spreading evil lies, deception, iniquity, blasphemy and you make lies (Rev 22:15). JESUS is God! And God NEVER lies, He(JESUS) is the TRUTH. I QUOTE YOU SAID: "down out of Heaven where he [Lucifer] had a place of significance". LUCIFER[who you call satan] NEVER HAD A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE IN HEAVEN (GOD'S THRONE-seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! YOU LIE AGAIN BY SAYING LUCIFER IS, I QUOTE: Lucifer "[Satan, devil, dragon]". Satan NEVER held the title of LUCIFER ‘heylel’, LIGHT BEARER, LIGHT BRINGER, MORNING STAR. WHEN DID HE DO THAT , BECAUSE JESUS IS THE MORNING STAR. AND JESUS WHO IS THE LIGHT BEARER, BRINGER ‘heylel’, IS GOD, AND HE HAS BEEN GOD FOREVER. WHEN DID SATAN OCCUPY HIS(JESUS, GOD) PLACE? He(satan) has never and shall never!!! Never be morning star. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "And for this reason it cost him his esteemed place in heaven." YOU ARE LYING AGAIN "him" NEVER HAD AN ESTEEMED PLACE IN HEAVEN (GOD’S THRONE)! HEAVEN IS GOD’S THRONE (SEAT), AND HE (satan) NEVER HAD IT; THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT, IT IS WHAT ALL THEOLOGIANS TEACH! And you know you are lying. GOD'S THRONE (HEAVEN, God seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). SATAN[DRAGON,DEVIL,OLD SERPENT], is from the bottomlesspit READ THE BIBLE(Rev 9:1-13) NOT HEAVEN (God’s throne- God’s seat)! HEAVEN IS GOD'S THRONE! (Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) SATAN NEVER HAD A THRONE IN HEAVEN(GOD’S THRONE)! THE STAR OPENED THE BOTTOMLESS PIT (REV 9) AND EVIL CREATURES CAME OUT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT WAS A KING OVER THEM, THAT KING IS ABADDON, APOLYON, SATAN, DEVIL. THE BIBLE DID NOT SAY HE CAME OUT OF HEAVEN BUT OUT OF THE BOTTOMLES PIT! BUT YOU WON’T AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU LIED ABOUT THE BIBLE, you have jumped chapter 9, in your un-teachable attitude. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID:"the serpent, became the vessel through which this fallen angel Lucifer [Lucifer has the ability to disguise himself in any way] could communicate with Eve to beguile her". JESUS IS ‘heylel’ in KJV is written ‘LUCIFER’, and LUCIFER means (light bearer,light bringer, morning star). See verses and bible references I have listed below in the study, you will stop saying what you are saying. AHA, I WANTED to hear what you are saying and you made it clear that you are confused! SATAN IS NOT A FALLEN ANGEL! HE IS AN ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT AND THE KJV BIBLE SAYS THAT; NOT FALLEN ANGEL, BUT ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT! YOU ARE full of LYING, LUCIFER DOES NOT DISGUISE HIMSELF AND HAS NO ABILITY TO DISGUISE HIMSELF, NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT TEACH THAT, BUT LIKE ALL THEOLOGIANS YOU LIE ABOUT THINGS AND ADD TO THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE SAYS: "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.". IT NEVER SAID SATAN WAS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. IT SAYS HE IS AN ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT[Rev 9] NOT LUCIFER OF HEAVEN AS YOU SAID.THIS SCRIPTURE IS SAYING SATAN HIMSELF! DID YOU HEAR? Satan HIMSELF! IT NEVER SAID GOD MADE HIM AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, BUT SATAN HIMSELF! HE WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF LIGHT IN THE BEGINNING AND JESUS SAID THAT HE(satan) WAS A DEVIL IN THE BEGINNING! AND JESUS IS GOD, AND GOD(JESUS) SAID SATAN WAS A DEVIL (MURDERER) IN THE BEGINNING; I BELIEVE HIM(JESUS) NOT YOU! MY JESUS CHRIST NEVER LIES, you are the ones who lie. I QUOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: "No sir you are wrong in your assumption that the serpent is the devil, or Lucifer or Satan" THE BIBLE TEACHES US THAT SATAN IS AN OLD SERPENT(Rev 20:2)! DOES NOT IT! WHAT IS A SERPENT? OH! I SEE, YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE, YOU BELIEVE LIES; THE BIBLE CALLS SATAN AN OLD SERPENT, YOU SAY NO! HE IS NOT, HE IS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT(ark angel, throne protector of God, worship angel). SO WHAT ARE YOU? A CHILD OF SATAN OR GOD? YOU PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL NOT JESUS’ GOSPEL. THE BIBLE SAYS WE MUST NOT ACCEPT SUCH A PERSON LIKE YOU WHO PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL(2 Cor 11:4, 2 Jhn 1:10,9). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer led a rebellion in heaven against God and was thrown out of God's Kingdom taking with him 13 of the heavenly hosts". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! GOD'S ANGELS NEVER REBEL AND NEVER DO. THERE ARE HOLY ANGELS AND EVIL ANGELS.READ THE KJV (PS 78:49) "He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels [among them]". YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU DO NOT READ THE BIBLE, WAKE UP THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS. READ THE REVELATION OF HELL BY THOSE THE LORD JESUS HAVE SHOWED HELL, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS, CREATURES, BEASTS IN HELL, AND YOU WILL STOP, BLASPHEMING THE NAME OF JESUS. Be humble! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “was thrown out of God’s Kingdom”. HEY! YOU ARE RELY FULL OF LIES, SATAN WAS NEVER IN GOD’S KINGDOM, HE IS AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD NOT IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, HE WAS AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD, murderer, devil from the beginning. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? CAN’T YOU JUST ACCEPT THE SCRIPTURES THE WAY THEY ARE AND STOP ADDING TO THE HOLY WORD OF GOD(Deut 4:2,Prov 30:5). LUCIFER NEVER took 1/3 OF THE ANGELS; WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT. YOU HAVE LIED AGAIN. THE 1/3 OF THE STARS THAT FELL WHERE THE CHILDREN OF RAMA (Mat 2:15-18,20). "In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping [for] her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not." THE RED DRAGON you read in Rev 12 is HEROD. And the woman you read about in Rev 12:1-2 IS MARY and the man child is JESUS, who was caught up to HIS THRONE. DID YOU SEE HIS THRONE IN THAT KJV BIBLE. HEAVEN IS JESUS THRONE! AND HE SAT ON IT! As he sat on his throne he saw SATAN FALL FROM HEAVEN (FIRMAMENT) (READ GEN 1:7-8). This heaven is not GOD's throne but the sky the KJV say FIRMAMENT! By the time satan fell, JESUS was sitting in his throne (heaven- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "You can read about this revolution in Isaiah 14:12-20 and Ezekiel 28:11-19. Ezekiel's lamentation concerning this fallen-being gives one an indication of the beauty of Lucifer." HMM.., FULL OF LIES..YOU STILL YOU MIX EZEK 28 WITH ISAI 14, that’s what all liars say. You teach deception, deceit, error, lies, doctrines of devils not JESUS DOCTRINE! Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus (Ezek 28) which you also misquote). I have heard that and the bible does not say that error, deception! THE BIBLE SAYS: "That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon" IT NEVER SAID SATAN! It said king of Babylon. DOES YOUR BIBLE HAVE KING OF BABYLON or did it change itself to replace the phrase “king of Babylon” to satan. I GUESS NOT! YOU ARE STILL FULL OF LIES, YOU TWIST VERSES AND BIBLE SCRIPTURES. THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU! EZEK 28, is a lamentation to the King of Tyrus, not satan. YOU ARE FULL OF LIES! I QOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: “Furthermore if you care to read up on Job 1:6-7, you will see that the sons of God, the angels, came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan was among them [v6]" STOP! HERE IS ANOTHER LIE, SONS OF GOD, THE ANGELS, NEVER!!! THE BIBLE SAYS THE SONS OF GOD NOT ANGELS, THE KJV SAYS: “SONS OF GOD”. ANGELS ARE NEVER SONS! AND THEY WILL NEVER BE FOR ETERNITY. THE SCRIPURE SAYS: "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? " Heb 1:5 ANGELS ARE NEVER SONS , THAT IS ANOTHER LIE WHICH THEOLOGIANS AND PASTORS PREACH! YOU LIE ALL THE TIME! THERE IS NO ANGEL WHICH IS A SON OR SONS! I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY GOD NEVER ALLOWED ME TO STUDY THEOLOGY, THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR PROTECTING ME FROM LIES. I GIVE YOU HONOUR AND GLORY. THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING MY HEART FROM DECEPTION BY YOUR HOLY WORD. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Notice that Satan says walking. If Satan as you say is a serpent then how come he is walking as verse 7". THIS IS ANOTHER CONFUSION; YOU FORGOT WHAT THE BIBLE SAY: HE IS A FATHER OF LIES.THIEF, MURDERER, DEVIL, DRAGON, ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, SERPENT (OLD SERPENT). YOU QUOTED THE WORDS OF satan, you quoted his lies. God never said that; but satan said that, so satan’s children like to say what you are saying. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "So Satan, devil, Lucifer is summoned from time to time to appear before God Almighty,because God is still the Sovereign Ruler of his creation, and when He summons angels, fallen or otherwise they obey. " YOU ARE LYING; THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY SATAN IS LUCIFER THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE LIKE THAT IN THE BIBLE; AND NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT SATAN APPEARED BEFORE GOD FROM TIME TO TIME! NO WHERE! HE IS AN ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN (Rev 9:10); BUT THE SCRIPTURE NEVER SAID HE APPEARS BEFORE GOD FROM TIME TO TIME. THE KJV SAYS: “for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before God DAY AND NIGHT”. DO YOU SEE DAY AND NIGHT? Not from time to time, you are a liar, you add to the bible, and the same book of Revelation says: “if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add him the plagues that are written in this book, and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, GOD shall take away his part out of the book of life” (Rev 22:18-19). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer is known by several different names. Rev 12:9 states, "And the great dragon was cast out, 'that old serpent', called the Devil, and Satan which deceives the whole world". DO YOU SEE THIS VERSE YOU HAVE QUOTED? IT SAYS GREAT DRAGON, OLD SERPENT, CALLED THE DEVIL AND SATAN”. Do you see that there is no angel of worship, or ark angel or Lucifer. IT SAYS SATAN! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU STILL BLIND, THAT YOU CAN’T SEE THE VERSE YOU HAVE QUOTED? WHEN I CAST OUT DEVILS; I HEAR THEM SAY “I AM LUCIFER”, THEY ARE STILL LYING EVEN IF THEY SAY THAT; THEY ARE LIARS AND SATAN IS THE FATHER OF LIES. LUCIFER IS NOT SATAN, LUCIFER IS THE HEBREW WORD, WHICH MEANS: “heylel”. This word means: light bringer, light bearer (Acts 9:3, Jhn 12:46,36,35, 9:5, 3:21,19, 1:9,5,4 ). ONLY JESUS IS THE LIGHT AND LIGHT BEARER AND BRINGER! SATAN HAS NEVER BEEN A LIGHT BEARER AND BRINGER, JESUS SAID HE WAS A MURDERER, DEVIL FROM BEGINNING. JESUS NEVER SAID HE(satan) IS A LIGHT BEARER, DID HE? YOU ARE SAYING JESUS “SAID HE(satan) IS A LIGHT BEARER, BRINGER AND THAT MAKES YOU A LIAR (DEVIL). YOU ARE A LIAR! A DEVIL, CHILD OF SATAN, THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU AND IN YOU TONGUE, REPENT! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "but rather the man-child spoken of is the many Jews who will come into repentance during the Great Tribulation." YOU ARE LYING, child of satan! THE BIBLE SAYS THE MAN CHILD NOT JEWS! AND IT SAYS “TO HIS THRONE”, NOT THEIR THRONES! YOU ARE LYING, little viper! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Your continuous mention that Satan was never an angel of light is unfounded because scripture implies that he was (2 Corinthians 11:14)." YOU LIKE QUOTING VERSES YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND, DON’T YOU? YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, IT SAY SATAN HIMSELF! NOT GOD HIMSELF TRANSFORMED HIM (satan) INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT". HE (devil) WAS NEVER angel of worship, HE (satan) TRANSFORMED HIMSELF, HE WAS NEVER an angel of worship, leading worship BY CREATION, HE DOES THAT(transformation) HIMSELF! DO NOT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES! IF HE (satan) TRANSFORMS/TRANSFORMED HIMSELF, INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, IT MEANS HE (satan) WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF WORSHIP, LIGHT. YOUR IGNORANCE IS HUGE AND BLINDING YOU. Satan was created serpent (waster, devil, murderer)- Read Gen 3:1, Job 26:13, Isai 54:16 the serpent was made a serpent (devil, waster).. YOU ARE MARKETING HIM (satan) AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT WHEN JESUS SAID HE WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING! In simple terms you are his servants doing satan’s bidding marketing him to be good, while he was a devil, murderer from the beginning. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Satan was in his original state the Morning star. He was once known as the [bright day-star] morning star". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN HE WAS NEVER A MORNING STAR THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT, HE (satan) WAS NEVER A BRIGHT DAY STAR, YOU SAY THAT NOT THE KJV BIBLE. JESUS SAID: “HE WAS DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING” (Jhn 8:44). HIS ORIGINAL STATE WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER ACCORDING TO JESUS (GOD). AND YOU ARE NOT GOD (JESUS), you are a liar. YOU ARE AGAINST GOD’S WORD AND GOD IS HIS WORD (Jhn 1:1).YOU SAY HE (satan) WAS A MORNING STAR, HOW CONFUSED CAN YOU BE! YOU ARE CHILDREN OF SATAN, YOU TWIST SCRIPTURES, THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID : "Jesus Christ is now the worthy title holder of "the bright morning star". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, JESUS HAS BEEN WORTHY BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD! JESUS HAS NEVER BEEN UNWORTHY! HE WAS WITH GOD AND IS GOD, MIGHTY GOD (Jhn 1:1, Isai 9:6). HE IS THE MORNING STAR IN OUR HEARTS!(2 Pet 1:9, Rev 22:16). JESUS WAS, AND IS THE MORNING STAR FOREVER. HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER. SATAN NEVER HELD THE TITLE OF MORNING STAR. JESUS IS THE MORNING STAR FOREVER. HE IS THE BEGINNING (MORNING STAR) AND THE END (MORNING STAR). MORNING STAR IN THE KJV IS DAY STAR! DONT LIE TO ME! I HATE LIES! I HAVE RECEIVED THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH (JESUS). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Satan when he was Lucifer in heaven was an anointed cherub, because God set it so". YOU ARE FULL OF LIES ARENT YOU? SATAN when he was lucifer? JESUS SAID HE WAS A DEVIL FROM THE BEGINNING. THE BEGINNING IS WHERE THINGS BEGAN! HE BEGAN A DEVIL NOT AN ANOINTED CHERUB! AND JESUS SAID THAT!(Jhn 8:44). YOU SAY, “because God set it so’. NO WHERE DID GOD SET IS SO IN THE WHOLE KJV BIBLE. YOU SAY HE(satan) WAS ANOINTED? NO; HE WAS NEVER, SATAN WAS NEVER ANOINTED AND WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne)! WHEN THE ANOINTING COMES ON YOU CANNOT LIE AND YOU ABIDE IN THE TRUTH!(1 JHN 2:27). SATAN NEVER ABODE IN THE TRUTH (Jhn 8:44). THE ANOINTING IS THE HOLY SPIRIT AND POWER! (Acts 10:38).HOW WAS SATAN ANOINTED WITH THE HOLY GHOST? YOU ARE LYING AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE LYING! Child of satan! Your tongue is full of poison (false doctrine, doctrine of devils, seducing spirits). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID "As an anointed cherub he walked in beauty and splendor amongst the Holy Mountain of God, up and down in the midst of the stones of fire, Ezekiel 28:14. Yes he was an anointed angel; but lost that pure, holy and perfect anointed state because of rebellion. But Satan can, given the opportunity anoint a human being with evil, hatred, murder, envy, maliciousness, corruption etc.” YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, HE WAS NEVER PURE, HOLY AND PERFECT, JESUS said he was a devil (murderer) from the beginning! SO ACCORDING TO YOU, satan was holy, pure, in other words, you are a satan worshipper, you proclaim him to have been holy and pure, WHEN JESUS said he (satan) was a DEVIL, MURDERER from the BEGINNING (Jhn 8:44). YOU ARE NOT arguing with me, you are arguing against GOD (Jesus), who said: “he (satan) was a DEVIL, MURDERER from the BEGINNING” (Jhn 8:44). And be rest assured you will never win against GOD (Jesus)-Acts 5:39, 23:9. No matter how ,much you try to come up with ways to make your ‘lies’ complex, you will remain a liar and GOD (Jesus), will remain true. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "My writings are purely research based on facts and scripturally sound”. SO FAR NOTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS BIBLICAL; IT IS CARNAL AND THEOLOGIAL, AS ALL THEOLOGIANS LIE; YOU HAVE SAID EXACTLY THAT (LIE); IT IS NOTHING NEW BUT WHAT THEY TEACH! MAY BE YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID: “my writings are evily satanic based of satan and satan spoken”. NOTHING YOU SAY IS BIBLICAL! REPENT FOR THERE IS HELL FIRE AND THE LAKE OF FIRE THAT WILL DESTROY FOREVER AND EVER THOSE WHO MAKE LIES LIKE YOU (Rev 21:27, 22:15). TODAY, YOU ARE GIVEN A CHANCE TO REPENT AND TURN FROM YOUR WICKED WAYS! (I, S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE, PROPHET OF THE LIVING GOD; FORGIVE YOU THIS DAY, FOR SPEAKING LIES WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD OTHERS SPEAK, HAVE WROTE AND TEACH, I FORGIVE YOU IN JESUS NAME. AND I URGE EVERYONE WHO WILL READ THIS MESSAGE TO FORGIVE ALL THOSE WHO SPOKE THIS ERROR AND DECEIT. FORGIVE THEM; BUT CONTINUE TO STAND AGAINST ERROR [DECEPTION], DOCTRINES OF DEVILS (1 Tim 4:1). IF YOU SEE YOUR BROTHER ERR, CORRECT AND REBUKE HIM, IN THAT WAY YOU WOULD HAVE SAVED HIM FROM DEATH (Lev 19:17, 1 Jhn 5:16)). PART 4 DISCUSSION I QUOTE: YOU SAID "Now, you do raise an interesting point about the Son's of God. I don't believe that the "son's of God in Genesis 6 are angels but I do believe the one's in Job are. [shrug] Satan and the other sons of God were angels but as we learned in several places; Jude, James and Revelation, they rebelled against God. YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! AS ALL THEOLOGIANS DO! Gen 6 is talking about the “SONS OF GOD” it NEVER said they are angels. It said they are SONS OF GOD, read the KJV bible. WHICH OF THE ANGELS DID GOD EVER SAY YOU ARE MY SON? ANSWER ME! WHICH? NONE IN ALL THE BIBLE, YOU HAVE HEARD THAT FROM THEOLOGIANS WHO ADD TO THE BIBLE AND READ IT IN PIECES. HEB1:5 READ IT IN KJV! THE BOOK OF JOB IS SPEAKING about the "sons of GOD" not angels! READ KJV! YOU SAID AGAIN "satan amongst angels". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! Read KJV it says satan amongst the SONS OF GOD! HOW CROOKED can you be! SONS AND ANGELS ARE NOT THE SAME AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME FOREVER AND EVER! DO NOT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES YOUR IDEAS. READ HEB 1:5 BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND AND CONFUSED, YOU SAID: "I believe that he was an angel created by God to serve but who rebelled". WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY HE WAS AN ANGEL WHO SERVED? SATAN WAS NEVER AND ANGEL WHO SERVED! NEVER! HE (satan) WAS A DEVIL (MURDERER) FROM THE BEGINNING AND JESUS (GOD) SAID THAT. You are all saying that JESUS is a LIAR because you think He (JESUS) is lying, JESUS SAID HE (satan) WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING. When things began he (satan, devil) began a devil (murderer). THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH! and JESUS who said that is GOD and LORD.AMEN! I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART, HE IS MY GOD AND I WILL NEVER BE ASHAMED OF HIS WORDS. I LOVE THEM AND I WILL ABIDE IN THEM FOREVER. YOU SAID AGAIN: "Jude6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" KJV. DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS? Read the bible those are the angels. Read Psa 78:49 (read KJV). BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND, LET ME OPEN UP YOUR EYES. 1. ANGELS ARE SPIRITS (search for this verse, you will see it in the bible) 2. EVIL ANGELS (Psa 78:49), are EVIL SPIRITS 3. EVIL SPIRITS ARE DEMONS, DEVILS 4. WHEN YOU READ THE REVELATION OF HELL, by those JESUS appeared to, they have recorded, that Jesus said: “the demon which was cast out, was having one wing, the other wing broke, when the man of God cast it out to the abyss (deep)”. THE PROBLEM WITH YOU PASTORS YOU ARE NOT HUMBLE, YOU REFUSE THE BIBLE AND PREACH LIES IN JESUS CHURCH (Acts 20:28). You are become [grievous] ravening wolves (Acts 20:29). CONCLUSION: I am not against preachers, I love them, I urge them to repent, I am 100% against lies they have taught and teach. If and when they repent our Heavenly Father will forgive them, Jesus will forgive them, and the Holy Spirit will forgive them. I urge you to study the bible correctly with the Holy Spirit, and preach the truth of God whether people [co-partners or pastors] like you or not. JESUS never lies and never lied, he is THE TRUTH. I desire all preachers teach no other doctrine, but Christ’s doctrine and sound doctrine. I am here to tell you to repent, for I am sent to warn you and to tell you to return to the bible. Do not preach lies, fables, stories. Preach the word in season out of season, line upon line, precept upon precept, teach the sound doctrine and add nothing to it. Do your best to read the revelations of hell and heaven by those whom the Lord appeared to, I read them, I soak myself in them for they are the words of JESUS to warn this perverse and adulterous generation. Now i declare unto you this day as a prophet of the living God, i forgive you. i forgive you for teaching error(doctrine of devils, spirit of error) in the church. i stand on behalf of the church of the living God, i stand to forgive you, start today to preach the truth. your sins are forgiven. I forgive you benny hinn, td jakes, myles, hagee, i forgive you in Jesus name! Start afresh! Jesus (God) loves you. I release you from that chain of satan, that held your tongue and release you from accusation. The anointing will teach you all things From PRINCE S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE To contact PRINCE S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE (Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe) Email: mogagabess@yahoo.com Website: http://mogagabess.magix.net/website Cell Number: +27820532122 (International Line) Address: PO BOX 7001, BAMARE-A-PHOGOLE, 2843, SOUTH AFRICA BIOGRAPHY OF PROPHET S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE S.Stephen Mogagabe is the first born son of King Harry Diale and Queen Pauline of the Royal Bakwena Bamare-A-Phogole Nation, a nation of black people in South Africa, whose land was taken away from them by whites in order to mine gold from it. Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe, has learned valuable lessons from his up-bringing in pains, sufferings and imprisonment for lies. From these experiences he stand fast and firm on the word of KING JESUS. He is unmovable from the words of his KING. He suffered tortures at age fourteen until twenty five for standing for JESUS and accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour. He is sent into the ministry as a prophet to correct teachers, leaders, kings and world presidents, this was the first anointing that came upon his life. The second anointing he received was teaching, to teach God’s sheep the word of God. He has seen many angels, and spoke to them and have answered their questions, recently has seen a man from heaven, who taught him the bible, and has also seen the hand of the Lord, and the Lord Jesus gave him words to tell the people. He is not sent to entertain but to tear down lies that are taught in church, and to tell people to return to the bible. Of recent, his right hand and finger vanishes when he speaks to people God’s word, as a sign for his calling (see pictures of the man of God, prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe). You may request the pictures of the vanishing prophet at mogagabess@yahoo.com.

No. Micheal whoops his butt.

LUCIFER THEOLOGY IS NOT TRUE (PART 1-4) by Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe This message has been send to over 3000 US churches, seminaries, theologians, theology lecturers and professors, to South African, Africa, and Asian famous pastors, and pastors, evangelists, teachers, bible schools. Many have asked for forgiveness as a result of hearing this message from the man of God, prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe though email. Korean missionaries have asked for more lessons and have accepted the truth revealed to them in the scriptures. The man of God, has send the same messages to US pastors who are pastoring big churches, ministries, para-churches, networks and most importantly to benny hinn, myles, td jakes, hagee, ernest angley, creflo dollar, jimmy swaggart, dag mills, jerry savelle, bismark and etc. Many US theology universities, colleges and seminaries have accepted the correction, including pastors networks, apostles and prophetic teams, women breakfast networks. From over 3000 emails sent to churches, pastors, seminaries, we have thus far received only four (4) replies who have rejected the bible truth, and remain deceived, and refuse to accept the bible truth sent to them for warning and correction. TO : SENIOR PASTORS, EVANGELISTS, PASTORS, TEACHERS, CHURCH MEMBERS PART 1 DISCUSSION Look about your ‘lucifer theology’ you are lying! You are a deceiver William Cook; you teach 100% lies of satan which benny hinn, myles, td jakes and john hagee are teaching. Look, I am not against them, I am against the lies they have propagated by lack of bible study and reading by the help of the Holy Spirit, taking other (deceivers)people’s references, books and thoughts and saying the same error to millions of children in faith(novices), who are defenseless and without bible truths. In Africa, there are thousands of pastors and millions who have heard them say that error, and are preaching the same thing (deception, error), till today. Their influence above other pastors, when it comes to unbiblical doctrine must be questioned with love and warning, as did apostle Paul to Peter (Gal 2:11, 1 Tim 1:20, 2 Jhn 9). Not to condemn but to warn and save (Jude 1:23). WHAT WAS SATAN FROM THE BEGINNING? What is satan? he is a devil, a murderer from the beginning.(JHN 8:44) the word beginning means "where things began". now, Jesus said "the devil was a murderer from the beginning" JESUS; not you or theology! He (Jesus) said the devil was a murderer from the beginning! BEGINNING! Did you know the beginning? The BEGINNING (who is JESUS) said: satan (devil) was a murderer from the beginning. He NEVER said he was an ARK angel of worship, a leading angel of worship, nor an angel of light in the BEGINNING. He said "satan was a devil" from the beginning and that devil was a murderer. HOW DARE YOU TWIST THE WORD OF JESUS! JESUS is GOD, and my God (Jesus), is TRUTH, only he alone speaks the truth, the rest are liars, no matter who or what they are. yOU HAVE PROVED YOUR SELF TO BE ANTI WHAT JESUS SAID and that simply means you are an antiCHRIST, a satanist, a satan worshipper, a child of iniquity, evil, child of satan. You theologians like adding things that are not in the bible; you think you are wise and clever than JESUS(GOD)! You use scriptures to say things that are not in the bible. The bible further says he (satan) is a thief. As a thief to kill, steal and destroy (Jhn 10:10), a thief according to the bible has never entered or approached heaven (God’s throne). JESUS said where no thief approacheth" (Luk 12:33). How did he (satan) approach heaven when JESUS said no thief ever approached HEAVEN (God’s throne). God’s throne is God’s seat, and his throne is HEAVEN (Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). You are confused! Because you do not know which heaven is JESUS referring to! You must study “heaven, heavens, generations of heavens, heaven of heavens, heavenly” FIRST! Did you know that God created satan a serpent. He (satan, devil) is a serpent you read in Gen 3 which tempted the Eve. Verse 1 of Gen 3 says "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made" (KJV). DO YOU SEE ‘HATH MADE’! THE LORD GOD HATH MADE! That serpent is the same serpent you read in Rev 12:9, 20:2 is satan! And that serpent is a devil which the Lord God hath made in Gen 3:1 and you know that, it is just that your lying ‘theological’ nature does not permit you to accept that. If you ask benny hinn, hagee, td jakes and all preachers all over the world "who is the snake that tempted eve or the serpent that spoke to Eve, they will all say: ‘it is satan’. But they don’t want to accept that ‘the serpent is satan’ which God created in Gen 3:1. They are deceived (in error, led astray) like you. THEY ACCEPT what they want the rest they distort and refuse! God formed the crooked serpent by his hand (Job 26:13)KJV. The word ‘crooked’ means: evil, subtil, wicked, vile. Bismark (a Zimbabwean novice preacher), said and I quote: “serpent was a healer, good in the beginning, created to destroy viruses” while JESUS said: ‘’the devil (satan, serpent) was a murderer in the beginning’. Bismark who claims to be an apostle, preached this error (deception) at Eddie Long’s church in the US. Bismark further said: “the word subtle means, intellectual, the serpent was wise to clean the garden”. satan according to the bible is not intellectual, the word ‘subtil’ is the word: ‘evil, subtil, wicked, vile’. While he said that the people were screaming and shouting not hearing the error he was speaking. The heaven which is implicated and you read in Rev 12:7-8 which satan fell from is Gen 1:7-8. satan has never been in heaven (God’s throne, God’s seat); he (satan) is a murder a thief, a liar and God NEVER permits liars, murderers, thieves in his throne. Heaven is God's THRONE (seat)- Matt 23:22. It is not a place of fighting; it is God's ruling throne. AND HIS WILL IS DONE IN HEAVEN!(Mtt 6:9-10). Rev 12 is speaking about the birth Jesus, Mary, Herod (red dragon) who killed the 3rd of the children of Rama; and it reveals satan (great dragon,devil). Never take scriptures out of context and mix verses you have no business mixing.AS YOU DO EZEK 28 with ISAI 14. Isai 14:12 is a proverb against the king of Babylon (not satan), Ezek 28 is a lamentation against King of Tyrus. These two kings are evil kings, they had to be judged and cast to hell, the same way Jesus said would happen to Capernaum(Matt 11:23, Luk 10:15). Before you read Rev 12 have you read Rev 9. IF YOU HAVE NOT READ Rev 9, you will propagate and proliferate what you said because you have never read the bible from genesis to revelation non-stop. You have used your carnal mind and have taught what other deceivers have taught. GOD CREATED THE CROOKED SERPENT BY HIS HAND (Job 26:13). And that serpent is satan, devil, crooked serpent, liar, deceiver of all the world, great dragon, old serpent, belial, and he (satan) has his beginning as a devil and will burn in the lake of fire forever and ever (Rev 20:10). ALLELUIYA! satan is called the angel of the bottomless pit, not angel of heaven(read REV 9:11). He is a king over the evil beasts you read in the book of revelation. He is NEVER called LUCIFER but "They have as king over them, the angel of the BOTTOMLESSPIT; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon." The word abyss is the phrase in KJV "bottomless pit" not HEAVEN. The names of satan are ABADDON and APOLLYON, one is destructor and another destroyer. And God created the destroyer (waster) (Isai 54:16). Search the scriptures! You will see that for yourself. Do not add to the bible. Satan was NEVER an angel of light and has never been in heaven (God’s seat, God throne) leading worship. 2 Cor 11:14 "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light". satan himself is transformed into an angel of LIGHT. HIMSELF! If he transformed himself to an angel of light, it means HE WAS NEVER an angel of light. That is faking! It is the same sin for which the evil angels in the book of Jude 1:6 are reserved in darkness for and in chains for, they are there for the sin of making themselves light as did satan (Jude 1:6). Satan transformed himself. The bible says HIMSELF! God never made him a worship angel of light. SATAN does that himself! NOT GOD made him an angel of light. The light is Jesus(Matt 4:16, Jhn 1:4-5,9, 3:19,8:12,9:5,12:35-36,46). satan WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF JESUS(LIGHT,GOD). AND GOD IS LIGHT AND GOD NEVER MADE satan an angel of worship! The scripture NEVER TEACHES that, you lying theologians teach that. You market satan as an angel of LIGHT(JESUS). In other words you are his (satan) messengers, false apostles, promoting satan (2 Cor 11:13-16). one false preacher said and I quote: “Lucifer[satan,devil] was holy, pure and he held an office of significance in heaven]”. What did JESUS say? He said he(satan) was a DEVIL [MURDERER] from the beginning but they say JESUS (GOD) is wrong, lying, they proclaim’ satan was an angel of worship, an ark angel protecting the throne (heaven, seat) of GOD. This is what lying pastors say! Furthermore if you claim LUCIFER to be satan as an anointed cherub. Do you know what you are doing? you are saying satan (devil, murderer from the beginning) was anointed. And do you know what the anointing is? it is the HOLY SPIRIT and POWER, that means you are saying satan had the HOLY SPIRIT and POWER. And that is a sin that WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN IN THIS WORLD AND IN THE WORLD TO COME. HARD! HMMM, this is an african preacher who is not afraid of theologians but a man who is a prince of the of the ROYAL BAKWENA BAMARE-A-PHOGOLE, Prophet S.STEPHEN Mogagabe. International Cell No.:+27820532122 (website http://mogagabess.magix.net/website). Address: PO Box 7001, Bamare-A-Phogole, 2843, South Africa. PART 2-DISCUSION I QUOTE WHAT YOU said: "My friend, you confuse me". NO! I do not confuse you are have been confused by lying pastors who taught you that satan was in heaven (God’s throne) when he was never in the heaven (throne of God) but heaven which is the firmament (Gen 1:7-8). the heaven you read in Rev 12 which you have quoted not in the KJV (which is another error you are doing not reading the bible in KJV), that HEAVEN is FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8)-read KJV! Thief (is satan), murderer is satan, dragon is satan, satan is devil, father of lies, ALL THIS WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne, God’s seat)! Did you not read what Jesus said when he said "thieves cannot approach HEAVEN". Satan is a murderer and murderers are never permitted (Rev 22:15,21:8) in heaven(God’s throne, God’s seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) GOD who said murderers are never permitted in heaven (Rev 22:15,21:8) has never changed; he has been the same and his word has never changed. God, is the same, yesterday, today and forever. If he (God and Word) said that; he has forever said that. When JESUS said: "I saw satan fall like lightning from heaven" this heaven you read is the same as the one you read in GEN 1:8 (read KJV). Because he (GOD) is the Lord God who created the heaven and the earth, and the same Lord God said “heaven is firmament”. The second part with all preachers you claim that there is one heaven , and you are lying. The bible teaches about heaven as: 1. firmament (sky) expanse, dome- Gen 1:7-8 KJV, this firmament (heaven) is going to be burned with fire together with the earth when God judgment takes place (2 Pet 3:12,7). this is the heaven where the PRINCE OF PERSIA withstood Gabriel the angel of God (Dan10:13). those whom the Lord Jesus showed this heaven knows and have seen it , and have said it is dark, evil and gross darkness, this is where the devil was. This is an evil spiritual celestial realm, called high places (Eph 6:12). 2. generations of heavens (Gen 2:1) 3. heavens Gen 2:1 KJV 4. heaven of heavens- this one look it for yourself! 5. heaven (God's throne) 1 king 22:19, psa 11:4 So before you confuse yourself; study heavens, heaven and all heavens in the bible; you will stop coming to hasty conclusions. JESUS IS NOT CONFUSED WHEN HE SAID HE SAW SATAN FALL LIKE A LIGHTING FROM HEAVEN; HE SAID FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8). BECAUSE HE(JESUS) WAS THE MAN CHILD WHO YOU HAVE READ OVER IN THE SAME BOOK OF REV 12:5 YOU’ve QUOTED! Rev 12 speaks of Jesus Birth as the man child who was caught up to HIS THRONE, DO YOU SEE THRONE, AND DO YOU SEE HEAVEN! TWO DIFFERENT WORDS USED IN THE SAME REVELATION 12! how blind can you be! Micheal and the dragon fought in the HEAVEN(FIRMAMENT)-GEN 1:7-8. John the apostle, wrote ‘throne; and ‘heaven’ in the same verse to show you the truth, but you still do not want to accept his testimony. Your eyes are covered with satanic blindness and deception! When you read Rev 12:1 is speaks of Mary the woman who is clothed and carrying what he is carrying, the red dragon is Herod who killed the 3rd of the children of RAMA (Matt 2:15-19,20), and the man child is JESUS who was caught up to his throne. The great dragon that dragon is not the red dragon, that great dragon which is not red is satan; and he (satan, devil, old serpent) was cast out of heaven (firmament). "AND LORD CALLED THE FIRMAMENT HEAVEN"(Gen 1:7-8).The firmament is called heaven! YOU CANNOT FIGHT IN GOD'S THRONE (HEAVEN, God seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). But you can fight in the firmament which is (heaven-the sky). This is the exact realm called high places (Eph 6:12), were the prince of Persia withstood Gabriel (Dan 10:13). This heaven (firmamanet) is not GOD’S THRONE (HEAVEN, SEAT). Before you start reading Rev 12 have you read revelation 9? where did that dragon you are reading about come from? THE BOTTOMLESS PIT! HE CAME AS A KING OVER THEM "evil creatures", and that king is called the angel of the bottomless pit, abaddon and appolyn". Do not jump verses! read, and read and read and read! Be humble let the word of God teach you, do not come with our opinions and thoughts. PART 3 DISCUSSION I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “If you care to read Isaiah 14:12 you will see that God is speaking of Satan as, Lucifer, son of the morning." STOP, YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! LUCIFER to be satan or as satan. All this is what theologians teach! And it is untrue, you like saying things you do not know, don't you! That verse you have quoted never said what you are claiming. You said: “you will see that God is speaking of satan”. THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT! GOD NEVER SPOKE THAT. YOU HAVE LIED ABOUT GOD AND HIS HOLY WORD! DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE PATORS IN HELL WHO ARE BURNING FOR TWISTING GOD’S HOLY WORD LIKE YOU. (Read the revelations of hell by those JESUS appointed and took to hell in order to record it for your learning). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer if you care to search the scripture's is a created being, one of only four angels mentioned [Michael, Gabriel, Lucifer and Apollyon] in the Bible." LYING! THERE IS MORE THAN FOUR ANGELS (Heb 12:22), and there are EVIL ANGELS (Psa 78:49), YOU LYING, THERE IS MORE THAN FOUR ANGELS, YOU LYING THING! YOU ARE FULL OF LIES, LUCIFER IS NOT AN ANGEL CREATED, THE BIBLE NEVER SAID THAT! WHICH BIBLE SAID THAT? NOT KJV, i sure know that, maybe it is the bible you have written or the one which benny hinn, tb jakes, myles , hagee are propagating. JESUS (GOD) said the devil, was a devil, murderer from the beginning, HE (JESUS) never ever said he was “LUCIFER”. The devil was a serpent subtil from the beginning. Read Gen 3:1, Job 26:13, Isai 54:16 the serpent was made a serpent (devil, waster). This serpent is called old serpent in the book of Revelation 12:9 I QOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Isaiah 14:12-15 declares that this created being who is named Lucifer, son of the morning, in his pride because of his desire to usurp God Almighty from His Throne, was thrown down out of Heaven where he [Lucifer] had a place of significance". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! “LUCIFER CREATED?”. HMM...ALL LIES! Lucifer ‘heylel’ is Light Bringer, Light Bearer, Morning Star. And Jesus is the Morning Star. Light bearer and bringer (Below I have quoted all the verses that shows us all that, look at them and stop your lies). Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus which you also misquote). Don’t be blind how can you mix two kings (tyrus and babylon) and make them satan. You are lying and you know that! LUCIFER [satan, devil] as you said HAD A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE? WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT? NO WHERE, NOT IN THE KJV OF THE BIBLE! IT IS YOUR OWN WORDS, NOT THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE NEVER SAID, AND I QUOTE YOUR WORDS: “his desire to usurp God Almighty from his throne”. YA! YOU ARE REALLY FULL OF LIES, REPENT AND BE SAVED FROM THE BURNING FIRE OF HELL THAT SHALL BURN ALL WHO MAKE LIES AND TWIST THE WORD OF GOD LIKE SATAN DID WHEN HE SPOKE TO EVE. Satan has never approached God’s heaven(seat), when did he enter heaven(Luk 12:33) , to usurp GOD Almighty as you claim? DO YOU KNOW WHO GOD ALMIGHTY IS? GOD ALMIGHTY IS JESUS (Isai 9:6). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “Lucifer [Satan, devil, dragon] said his haughtiness". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, LUCIFER IS SATAN WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT. Lucifer is Light Bringer, Light Bearer, Morning Star. And Jesus is the Morning Star, Light Bearer and Birnger (Below I have quoted all the verses that shows us all that, look at them and stop your lies). Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus which you also misquote). JESUS SAID: "the devil was a murderer from the beginning (Jhn 8:44)!"JESUS SAID THAT HE(satan) WAS A DEVIL, A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING NOT ANGEL of worship! JESUS SAID A “DEVIL” WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING! Not an angel of worship, ark angel, and protector of the throne of God from the BEGINNING. When things began he was a devil, a murderer NOT ANGEL OF WORSHIP,OR A PROTECTOR OF THE THRONE OF GOD AS YOU SAY! NOT WHAT YOU SAID. I DISAGREE AND REJECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, you are spreading evil lies, deception, iniquity, blasphemy and you make lies (Rev 22:15). JESUS is God! And God NEVER lies, He(JESUS) is the TRUTH. I QUOTE YOU SAID: "down out of Heaven where he [Lucifer] had a place of significance". LUCIFER[who you call satan] NEVER HAD A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE IN HEAVEN (GOD'S THRONE-seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! YOU LIE AGAIN BY SAYING LUCIFER IS, I QUOTE: Lucifer "[Satan, devil, dragon]". Satan NEVER held the title of LUCIFER ‘heylel’, LIGHT BEARER, LIGHT BRINGER, MORNING STAR. WHEN DID HE DO THAT , BECAUSE JESUS IS THE MORNING STAR. AND JESUS WHO IS THE LIGHT BEARER, BRINGER ‘heylel’, IS GOD, AND HE HAS BEEN GOD FOREVER. WHEN DID SATAN OCCUPY HIS(JESUS, GOD) PLACE? He(satan) has never and shall never!!! Never be morning star. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "And for this reason it cost him his esteemed place in heaven." YOU ARE LYING AGAIN "him" NEVER HAD AN ESTEEMED PLACE IN HEAVEN (GOD’S THRONE)! HEAVEN IS GOD’S THRONE (SEAT), AND HE (satan) NEVER HAD IT; THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT, IT IS WHAT ALL THEOLOGIANS TEACH! And you know you are lying. GOD'S THRONE (HEAVEN, God seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). SATAN[DRAGON,DEVIL,OLD SERPENT], is from the bottomlesspit READ THE BIBLE(Rev 9:1-13) NOT HEAVEN (God’s throne- God’s seat)! HEAVEN IS GOD'S THRONE! (Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) SATAN NEVER HAD A THRONE IN HEAVEN(GOD’S THRONE)! THE STAR OPENED THE BOTTOMLESS PIT (REV 9) AND EVIL CREATURES CAME OUT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT WAS A KING OVER THEM, THAT KING IS ABADDON, APOLYON, SATAN, DEVIL. THE BIBLE DID NOT SAY HE CAME OUT OF HEAVEN BUT OUT OF THE BOTTOMLES PIT! BUT YOU WON’T AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU LIED ABOUT THE BIBLE, you have jumped chapter 9, in your un-teachable attitude. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID:"the serpent, became the vessel through which this fallen angel Lucifer [Lucifer has the ability to disguise himself in any way] could communicate with Eve to beguile her". JESUS IS ‘heylel’ in KJV is written ‘LUCIFER’, and LUCIFER means (light bearer,light bringer, morning star). See verses and bible references I have listed below in the study, you will stop saying what you are saying. AHA, I WANTED to hear what you are saying and you made it clear that you are confused! SATAN IS NOT A FALLEN ANGEL! HE IS AN ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT AND THE KJV BIBLE SAYS THAT; NOT FALLEN ANGEL, BUT ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT! YOU ARE full of LYING, LUCIFER DOES NOT DISGUISE HIMSELF AND HAS NO ABILITY TO DISGUISE HIMSELF, NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT TEACH THAT, BUT LIKE ALL THEOLOGIANS YOU LIE ABOUT THINGS AND ADD TO THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE SAYS: "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.". IT NEVER SAID SATAN WAS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. IT SAYS HE IS AN ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT[Rev 9] NOT LUCIFER OF HEAVEN AS YOU SAID.THIS SCRIPTURE IS SAYING SATAN HIMSELF! DID YOU HEAR? Satan HIMSELF! IT NEVER SAID GOD MADE HIM AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, BUT SATAN HIMSELF! HE WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF LIGHT IN THE BEGINNING AND JESUS SAID THAT HE(satan) WAS A DEVIL IN THE BEGINNING! AND JESUS IS GOD, AND GOD(JESUS) SAID SATAN WAS A DEVIL (MURDERER) IN THE BEGINNING; I BELIEVE HIM(JESUS) NOT YOU! MY JESUS CHRIST NEVER LIES, you are the ones who lie. I QUOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: "No sir you are wrong in your assumption that the serpent is the devil, or Lucifer or Satan" THE BIBLE TEACHES US THAT SATAN IS AN OLD SERPENT(Rev 20:2)! DOES NOT IT! WHAT IS A SERPENT? OH! I SEE, YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE, YOU BELIEVE LIES; THE BIBLE CALLS SATAN AN OLD SERPENT, YOU SAY NO! HE IS NOT, HE IS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT(ark angel, throne protector of God, worship angel). SO WHAT ARE YOU? A CHILD OF SATAN OR GOD? YOU PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL NOT JESUS’ GOSPEL. THE BIBLE SAYS WE MUST NOT ACCEPT SUCH A PERSON LIKE YOU WHO PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL(2 Cor 11:4, 2 Jhn 1:10,9). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer led a rebellion in heaven against God and was thrown out of God's Kingdom taking with him 13 of the heavenly hosts". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! GOD'S ANGELS NEVER REBEL AND NEVER DO. THERE ARE HOLY ANGELS AND EVIL ANGELS.READ THE KJV (PS 78:49) "He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels [among them]". YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU DO NOT READ THE BIBLE, WAKE UP THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS. READ THE REVELATION OF HELL BY THOSE THE LORD JESUS HAVE SHOWED HELL, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS, CREATURES, BEASTS IN HELL, AND YOU WILL STOP, BLASPHEMING THE NAME OF JESUS. Be humble! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “was thrown out of God’s Kingdom”. HEY! YOU ARE RELY FULL OF LIES, SATAN WAS NEVER IN GOD’S KINGDOM, HE IS AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD NOT IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, HE WAS AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD, murderer, devil from the beginning. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? CAN’T YOU JUST ACCEPT THE SCRIPTURES THE WAY THEY ARE AND STOP ADDING TO THE HOLY WORD OF GOD(Deut 4:2,Prov 30:5). LUCIFER NEVER took 1/3 OF THE ANGELS; WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT. YOU HAVE LIED AGAIN. THE 1/3 OF THE STARS THAT FELL WHERE THE CHILDREN OF RAMA (Mat 2:15-18,20). "In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping [for] her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not." THE RED DRAGON you read in Rev 12 is HEROD. And the woman you read about in Rev 12:1-2 IS MARY and the man child is JESUS, who was caught up to HIS THRONE. DID YOU SEE HIS THRONE IN THAT KJV BIBLE. HEAVEN IS JESUS THRONE! AND HE SAT ON IT! As he sat on his throne he saw SATAN FALL FROM HEAVEN (FIRMAMENT) (READ GEN 1:7-8). This heaven is not GOD's throne but the sky the KJV say FIRMAMENT! By the time satan fell, JESUS was sitting in his throne (heaven- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "You can read about this revolution in Isaiah 14:12-20 and Ezekiel 28:11-19. Ezekiel's lamentation concerning this fallen-being gives one an indication of the beauty of Lucifer." HMM.., FULL OF LIES..YOU STILL YOU MIX EZEK 28 WITH ISAI 14, that’s what all liars say. You teach deception, deceit, error, lies, doctrines of devils not JESUS DOCTRINE! Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus (Ezek 28) which you also misquote). I have heard that and the bible does not say that error, deception! THE BIBLE SAYS: "That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon" IT NEVER SAID SATAN! It said king of Babylon. DOES YOUR BIBLE HAVE KING OF BABYLON or did it change itself to replace the phrase “king of Babylon” to satan. I GUESS NOT! YOU ARE STILL FULL OF LIES, YOU TWIST VERSES AND BIBLE SCRIPTURES. THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU! EZEK 28, is a lamentation to the King of Tyrus, not satan. YOU ARE FULL OF LIES! I QOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: “Furthermore if you care to read up on Job 1:6-7, you will see that the sons of God, the angels, came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan was among them [v6]" STOP! HERE IS ANOTHER LIE, SONS OF GOD, THE ANGELS, NEVER!!! THE BIBLE SAYS THE SONS OF GOD NOT ANGELS, THE KJV SAYS: “SONS OF GOD”. ANGELS ARE NEVER SONS! AND THEY WILL NEVER BE FOR ETERNITY. THE SCRIPURE SAYS: "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? " Heb 1:5 ANGELS ARE NEVER SONS , THAT IS ANOTHER LIE WHICH THEOLOGIANS AND PASTORS PREACH! YOU LIE ALL THE TIME! THERE IS NO ANGEL WHICH IS A SON OR SONS! I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY GOD NEVER ALLOWED ME TO STUDY THEOLOGY, THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR PROTECTING ME FROM LIES. I GIVE YOU HONOUR AND GLORY. THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING MY HEART FROM DECEPTION BY YOUR HOLY WORD. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Notice that Satan says walking. If Satan as you say is a serpent then how come he is walking as verse 7". THIS IS ANOTHER CONFUSION; YOU FORGOT WHAT THE BIBLE SAY: HE IS A FATHER OF LIES.THIEF, MURDERER, DEVIL, DRAGON, ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, SERPENT (OLD SERPENT). YOU QUOTED THE WORDS OF satan, you quoted his lies. God never said that; but satan said that, so satan’s children like to say what you are saying. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "So Satan, devil, Lucifer is summoned from time to time to appear before God Almighty,because God is still the Sovereign Ruler of his creation, and when He summons angels, fallen or otherwise they obey. " YOU ARE LYING; THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY SATAN IS LUCIFER THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE LIKE THAT IN THE BIBLE; AND NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT SATAN APPEARED BEFORE GOD FROM TIME TO TIME! NO WHERE! HE IS AN ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN (Rev 9:10); BUT THE SCRIPTURE NEVER SAID HE APPEARS BEFORE GOD FROM TIME TO TIME. THE KJV SAYS: “for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before God DAY AND NIGHT”. DO YOU SEE DAY AND NIGHT? Not from time to time, you are a liar, you add to the bible, and the same book of Revelation says: “if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add him the plagues that are written in this book, and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, GOD shall take away his part out of the book of life” (Rev 22:18-19). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer is known by several different names. Rev 12:9 states, "And the great dragon was cast out, 'that old serpent', called the Devil, and Satan which deceives the whole world". DO YOU SEE THIS VERSE YOU HAVE QUOTED? IT SAYS GREAT DRAGON, OLD SERPENT, CALLED THE DEVIL AND SATAN”. Do you see that there is no angel of worship, or ark angel or Lucifer. IT SAYS SATAN! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU STILL BLIND, THAT YOU CAN’T SEE THE VERSE YOU HAVE QUOTED? WHEN I CAST OUT DEVILS; I HEAR THEM SAY “I AM LUCIFER”, THEY ARE STILL LYING EVEN IF THEY SAY THAT; THEY ARE LIARS AND SATAN IS THE FATHER OF LIES. LUCIFER IS NOT SATAN, LUCIFER IS THE HEBREW WORD, WHICH MEANS: “heylel”. This word means: light bringer, light bearer (Acts 9:3, Jhn 12:46,36,35, 9:5, 3:21,19, 1:9,5,4 ). ONLY JESUS IS THE LIGHT AND LIGHT BEARER AND BRINGER! SATAN HAS NEVER BEEN A LIGHT BEARER AND BRINGER, JESUS SAID HE WAS A MURDERER, DEVIL FROM BEGINNING. JESUS NEVER SAID HE(satan) IS A LIGHT BEARER, DID HE? YOU ARE SAYING JESUS “SAID HE(satan) IS A LIGHT BEARER, BRINGER AND THAT MAKES YOU A LIAR (DEVIL). YOU ARE A LIAR! A DEVIL, CHILD OF SATAN, THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU AND IN YOU TONGUE, REPENT! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "but rather the man-child spoken of is the many Jews who will come into repentance during the Great Tribulation." YOU ARE LYING, child of satan! THE BIBLE SAYS THE MAN CHILD NOT JEWS! AND IT SAYS “TO HIS THRONE”, NOT THEIR THRONES! YOU ARE LYING, little viper! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Your continuous mention that Satan was never an angel of light is unfounded because scripture implies that he was (2 Corinthians 11:14)." YOU LIKE QUOTING VERSES YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND, DON’T YOU? YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, IT SAY SATAN HIMSELF! NOT GOD HIMSELF TRANSFORMED HIM (satan) INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT". HE (devil) WAS NEVER angel of worship, HE (satan) TRANSFORMED HIMSELF, HE WAS NEVER an angel of worship, leading worship BY CREATION, HE DOES THAT(transformation) HIMSELF! DO NOT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES! IF HE (satan) TRANSFORMS/TRANSFORMED HIMSELF, INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, IT MEANS HE (satan) WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF WORSHIP, LIGHT. YOUR IGNORANCE IS HUGE AND BLINDING YOU. Satan was created serpent (waster, devil, murderer)- Read Gen 3:1, Job 26:13, Isai 54:16 the serpent was made a serpent (devil, waster).. YOU ARE MARKETING HIM (satan) AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT WHEN JESUS SAID HE WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING! In simple terms you are his servants doing satan’s bidding marketing him to be good, while he was a devil, murderer from the beginning. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Satan was in his original state the Morning star. He was once known as the [bright day-star] morning star". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN HE WAS NEVER A MORNING STAR THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT, HE (satan) WAS NEVER A BRIGHT DAY STAR, YOU SAY THAT NOT THE KJV BIBLE. JESUS SAID: “HE WAS DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING” (Jhn 8:44). HIS ORIGINAL STATE WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER ACCORDING TO JESUS (GOD). AND YOU ARE NOT GOD (JESUS), you are a liar. YOU ARE AGAINST GOD’S WORD AND GOD IS HIS WORD (Jhn 1:1).YOU SAY HE (satan) WAS A MORNING STAR, HOW CONFUSED CAN YOU BE! YOU ARE CHILDREN OF SATAN, YOU TWIST SCRIPTURES, THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID : "Jesus Christ is now the worthy title holder of "the bright morning star". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, JESUS HAS BEEN WORTHY BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD! JESUS HAS NEVER BEEN UNWORTHY! HE WAS WITH GOD AND IS GOD, MIGHTY GOD (Jhn 1:1, Isai 9:6). HE IS THE MORNING STAR IN OUR HEARTS!(2 Pet 1:9, Rev 22:16). JESUS WAS, AND IS THE MORNING STAR FOREVER. HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER. SATAN NEVER HELD THE TITLE OF MORNING STAR. JESUS IS THE MORNING STAR FOREVER. HE IS THE BEGINNING (MORNING STAR) AND THE END (MORNING STAR). MORNING STAR IN THE KJV IS DAY STAR! DONT LIE TO ME! I HATE LIES! I HAVE RECEIVED THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH (JESUS). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Satan when he was Lucifer in heaven was an anointed cherub, because God set it so". YOU ARE FULL OF LIES ARENT YOU? SATAN when he was lucifer? JESUS SAID HE WAS A DEVIL FROM THE BEGINNING. THE BEGINNING IS WHERE THINGS BEGAN! HE BEGAN A DEVIL NOT AN ANOINTED CHERUB! AND JESUS SAID THAT!(Jhn 8:44). YOU SAY, “because God set it so’. NO WHERE DID GOD SET IS SO IN THE WHOLE KJV BIBLE. YOU SAY HE(satan) WAS ANOINTED? NO; HE WAS NEVER, SATAN WAS NEVER ANOINTED AND WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne)! WHEN THE ANOINTING COMES ON YOU CANNOT LIE AND YOU ABIDE IN THE TRUTH!(1 JHN 2:27). SATAN NEVER ABODE IN THE TRUTH (Jhn 8:44). THE ANOINTING IS THE HOLY SPIRIT AND POWER! (Acts 10:38).HOW WAS SATAN ANOINTED WITH THE HOLY GHOST? YOU ARE LYING AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE LYING! Child of satan! Your tongue is full of poison (false doctrine, doctrine of devils, seducing spirits). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID "As an anointed cherub he walked in beauty and splendor amongst the Holy Mountain of God, up and down in the midst of the stones of fire, Ezekiel 28:14. Yes he was an anointed angel; but lost that pure, holy and perfect anointed state because of rebellion. But Satan can, given the opportunity anoint a human being with evil, hatred, murder, envy, maliciousness, corruption etc.” YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, HE WAS NEVER PURE, HOLY AND PERFECT, JESUS said he was a devil (murderer) from the beginning! SO ACCORDING TO YOU, satan was holy, pure, in other words, you are a satan worshipper, you proclaim him to have been holy and pure, WHEN JESUS said he (satan) was a DEVIL, MURDERER from the BEGINNING (Jhn 8:44). YOU ARE NOT arguing with me, you are arguing against GOD (Jesus), who said: “he (satan) was a DEVIL, MURDERER from the BEGINNING” (Jhn 8:44). And be rest assured you will never win against GOD (Jesus)-Acts 5:39, 23:9. No matter how ,much you try to come up with ways to make your ‘lies’ complex, you will remain a liar and GOD (Jesus), will remain true. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "My writings are purely research based on facts and scripturally sound”. SO FAR NOTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS BIBLICAL; IT IS CARNAL AND THEOLOGIAL, AS ALL THEOLOGIANS LIE; YOU HAVE SAID EXACTLY THAT (LIE); IT IS NOTHING NEW BUT WHAT THEY TEACH! MAY BE YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID: “my writings are evily satanic based of satan and satan spoken”. NOTHING YOU SAY IS BIBLICAL! REPENT FOR THERE IS HELL FIRE AND THE LAKE OF FIRE THAT WILL DESTROY FOREVER AND EVER THOSE WHO MAKE LIES LIKE YOU (Rev 21:27, 22:15). TODAY, YOU ARE GIVEN A CHANCE TO REPENT AND TURN FROM YOUR WICKED WAYS! (I, S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE, PROPHET OF THE LIVING GOD; FORGIVE YOU THIS DAY, FOR SPEAKING LIES WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD OTHERS SPEAK, HAVE WROTE AND TEACH, I FORGIVE YOU IN JESUS NAME. AND I URGE EVERYONE WHO WILL READ THIS MESSAGE TO FORGIVE ALL THOSE WHO SPOKE THIS ERROR AND DECEIT. FORGIVE THEM; BUT CONTINUE TO STAND AGAINST ERROR [DECEPTION], DOCTRINES OF DEVILS (1 Tim 4:1). IF YOU SEE YOUR BROTHER ERR, CORRECT AND REBUKE HIM, IN THAT WAY YOU WOULD HAVE SAVED HIM FROM DEATH (Lev 19:17, 1 Jhn 5:16)). PART 4 DISCUSSION I QUOTE: YOU SAID "Now, you do raise an interesting point about the Son's of God. I don't believe that the "son's of God in Genesis 6 are angels but I do believe the one's in Job are. [shrug] Satan and the other sons of God were angels but as we learned in several places; Jude, James and Revelation, they rebelled against God. YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! AS ALL THEOLOGIANS DO! Gen 6 is talking about the “SONS OF GOD” it NEVER said they are angels. It said they are SONS OF GOD, read the KJV bible. WHICH OF THE ANGELS DID GOD EVER SAY YOU ARE MY SON? ANSWER ME! WHICH? NONE IN ALL THE BIBLE, YOU HAVE HEARD THAT FROM THEOLOGIANS WHO ADD TO THE BIBLE AND READ IT IN PIECES. HEB1:5 READ IT IN KJV! THE BOOK OF JOB IS SPEAKING about the "sons of GOD" not angels! READ KJV! YOU SAID AGAIN "satan amongst angels". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! Read KJV it says satan amongst the SONS OF GOD! HOW CROOKED can you be! SONS AND ANGELS ARE NOT THE SAME AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME FOREVER AND EVER! DO NOT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES YOUR IDEAS. READ HEB 1:5 BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND AND CONFUSED, YOU SAID: "I believe that he was an angel created by God to serve but who rebelled". WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY HE WAS AN ANGEL WHO SERVED? SATAN WAS NEVER AND ANGEL WHO SERVED! NEVER! HE (satan) WAS A DEVIL (MURDERER) FROM THE BEGINNING AND JESUS (GOD) SAID THAT. You are all saying that JESUS is a LIAR because you think He (JESUS) is lying, JESUS SAID HE (satan) WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING. When things began he (satan, devil) began a devil (murderer). THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH! and JESUS who said that is GOD and LORD.AMEN! I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART, HE IS MY GOD AND I WILL NEVER BE ASHAMED OF HIS WORDS. I LOVE THEM AND I WILL ABIDE IN THEM FOREVER. YOU SAID AGAIN: "Jude6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" KJV. DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS? Read the bible those are the angels. Read Psa 78:49 (read KJV). BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND, LET ME OPEN UP YOUR EYES. 1. ANGELS ARE SPIRITS (search for this verse, you will see it in the bible) 2. EVIL ANGELS (Psa 78:49), are EVIL SPIRITS 3. EVIL SPIRITS ARE DEMONS, DEVILS 4. WHEN YOU READ THE REVELATION OF HELL, by those JESUS appeared to, they have recorded, that Jesus said: “the demon which was cast out, was having one wing, the other wing broke, when the man of God cast it out to the abyss (deep)”. THE PROBLEM WITH YOU PASTORS YOU ARE NOT HUMBLE, YOU REFUSE THE BIBLE AND PREACH LIES IN JESUS CHURCH (Acts 20:28). You are become [grievous] ravening wolves (Acts 20:29). CONCLUSION: I am not against preachers, I love them, I urge them to repent, I am 100% against lies they have taught and teach. If and when they repent our Heavenly Father will forgive them, Jesus will forgive them, and the Holy Spirit will forgive them. I urge you to study the bible correctly with the Holy Spirit, and preach the truth of God whether people [co-partners or pastors] like you or not. JESUS never lies and never lied, he is THE TRUTH. I desire all preachers teach no other doctrine, but Christ’s doctrine and sound doctrine. I am here to tell you to repent, for I am sent to warn you and to tell you to return to the bible. Do not preach lies, fables, stories. Preach the word in season out of season, line upon line, precept upon precept, teach the sound doctrine and add nothing to it. Do your best to read the revelations of hell and heaven by those whom the Lord appeared to, I read them, I soak myself in them for they are the words of JESUS to warn this perverse and adulterous generation. Now i declare unto you this day as a prophet of the living God, i forgive you. i forgive you for teaching error(doctrine of devils, spirit of error) in the church. i stand on behalf of the church of the living God, i stand to forgive you, start today to preach the truth. your sins are forgiven. I forgive you benny hinn, td jakes, myles, hagee, i forgive you in Jesus name! Start afresh! Jesus (God) loves you. I release you from that chain of satan, that held your tongue and release you from accusation. The anointing will teach you all things From PRINCE S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE To contact PRINCE S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE (Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe) Email: mogagabess@yahoo.com Website: http://mogagabess.magix.net/website Cell Number: +27820532122 (International Line) Address: PO BOX 7001, BAMARE-A-PHOGOLE, 2843, SOUTH AFRICA BIOGRAPHY OF PROPHET S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE S.Stephen Mogagabe is the first born son of King Harry Diale and Queen Pauline of the Royal Bakwena Bamare-A-Phogole Nation, a nation of black people in South Africa, whose land was taken away from them by whites in order to mine gold from it. Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe, has learned valuable lessons from his up-bringing in pains, sufferings and imprisonment for lies. From these experiences he stand fast and firm on the word of KING JESUS. He is unmovable from the words of his KING. He suffered tortures at age fourteen until twenty five for standing for JESUS and accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour. He is sent into the ministry as a prophet to correct teachers, leaders, kings and world presidents, this was the first anointing that came upon his life. The second anointing he received was teaching, to teach God’s sheep the word of God. He has seen many angels, and spoke to them and have answered their questions, recently has seen a man from heaven, who taught him the bible, and has also seen the hand of the Lord, and the Lord Jesus gave him words to tell the people. He is not sent to entertain but to tear down lies that are taught in church, and to tell people to return to the bible. Of recent, his right hand and finger vanishes when he speaks to people God’s word, as a sign for his calling (see pictures of the man of God, prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe). You may request the pictures of the vanishing prophet at mogagabess@yahoo.com.

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LUCIFER THEOLOGY IS NOT TRUE (PART 1-4) by Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe This message has been send to over 4700 US churches, seminaries, theologians, theology lecturers and professors, to South African, Africa, and Asian famous pastors, and assistant pastors, evangelists, teachers, and bible schools. Many have asked for forgiveness through email as a result of hearing this message from the man of God, prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe. Korean missionaries have asked for more lessons and have accepted the truth revealed to them in the scriptures. The man of God, has send the same messages to US pastors who are pastoring big churches, ministries, para-churches, networks and most importantly to benny hinn, myles, td jakes, hagee, ernest angley, creflo dollar, jimmy swaggart, dag mills, jerry savelle, bismark and etc. Many US theology universities, colleges and seminaries have accepted the correction, including pastors networks, apostles and prophetic teams, women breakfast networks. From over 4700 emails sent to churches, pastors, seminaries, we have thus far received only four (4) replies who have rejected the bible truth, and remain deceived, and refuse to accept the bible truth sent to them for warning and correction. Baptist churches and seminaries have seen their errors, but most importantly the seventh day Adventist preachers who have preached the Lucifer theology to millions have moved away from the Ellen white lucifer ‘satan’ theory of deception. TO : SENIOR PASTORS, EVANGELISTS, PASTORS, TEACHERS, CHURCH MEMBERS PART 1 DISCUSSION Look about your ‘lucifer theology’ you are lying! You are a deceiver William Cook; you teach 100% lies of satan which benny hinn, myles, td jakes and john hagee are teaching. Look, I am not against them, I am against the lies they have propagated by lack of bible study and reading refusing the help of the Holy Spirit, taking other (deceivers)people’s references, books and thoughts and saying the same error to millions of children in faith(novices), who are defenseless and without bible truths. In Africa, there are thousands of pastors and millions who have heard them say that error, and are preaching the same thing (deception, error), till today. Their influence above other pastors, when it comes to unbiblical doctrine must be questioned with love and warning, as did apostle Paul to Peter (Gal 2:11, 1 Tim 1:20, 2 Jhn 9). Not to condemn but to warn and save (Jude 1:23). WHAT WAS SATAN FROM THE BEGINNING? WHAT IS THE ORIGIN OF SATAN? HOW DID HE BEGIN? What is satan? he is a devil, a murderer from the beginning.(JHN 8:44) the word beginning means "where things began". now, Jesus (GOD) said: "the devil was a murderer from the beginning" JESUS; not you or theology! He (Jesus, GOD,the WORD) said the devil was a murderer from the beginning! BEGINNING! Did you know the beginning? The BEGINNING (who is JESUS) said: satan (devil) was a murderer from the beginning. He(GOD,Jesus) NEVER said he was an ARK angel of worship, a leading angel of worship, nor an angel of light in the BEGINNING. He said "satan was a devil" from the beginning and that devil was a murderer. HOW DARE YOU TWIST THE WORD OF JESUS! JESUS is GOD, and my God (Jesus), is TRUTH, only he alone speaks the truth, the rest are liars, no matter who or what they are. You are against what Christ said, that means you are antichrist, a satanist, a devil worshipper. You are not of God, you are a wolf IN A SHEEP skin. You twist the bible, the same way your father satan twisted the words of God before Eve in the book of Genesis. You theologians(children of satan) like adding things that are not in the bible; you think you are wise and clever than JESUS(GOD)! You use scriptures to say things that are not in the bible. TWISTING bible verses. You reject the truth (JESUS), men of corrupt minds (2 Tim 3:8), you shall not proceed any further, for your foolishness shall be made manifest unto all men. You have not received the love of the truth that you may be saved (2 Thes 2:10,12) as a result you are damned you do not believe the scriptures. You are destitute of the truth (1 Tim 6:5). The bible further says he (satan) is a thief. As a thief to kill, steal and destroy (Jhn 10:10), a thief according to the bible has never entered or approached heaven (God’s throne). JESUS said: “where no thief approacheth" (Luk 12:33). How did he (satan, thief) approach heaven when JESUS(GOD,the WORD) said no thief ever approached HEAVEN (God’s throne). God’s throne is God’s seat, and his throne is HEAVEN (Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). You are confused! Because you do not know which heaven is JESUS(GOD) referring to, when he(JESUS) said satan fell! You must study “heaven, heavens, generations of heavens, heaven of heavens, heavenly, and all the heavens in the bible” FIRST! Did you know that God created satan a serpent. He (satan, devil) is a serpent you read in Gen 3 which tempted the Eve. Verse 1 of Gen 3 says "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made" (KJV). DO YOU SEE ‘HATH MADE’! THE LORD GOD HATH MADE! That serpent is the same serpent you read in Rev 12:9, 20:2 is satan! In the book of revelation he is called the ‘old serpent’.And that serpent is a devil, satan which the Lord God hath made in Gen 3:1 and you know that, it is just that your lying ‘theological and satanic’ nature does not permit you to accept that. If you ask benny hinn, hagee, td jakes and all preachers all over the world "who is the snake that tempted eve or the serpent that spoke to Eve, they will all say: ‘it is satan’. But they don’t want to accept that ‘the serpent/old srpent is satan’ which God created in Gen 3:1. They are deceived (in error, led astray) like you. THEY ACCEPT what they want the rest they distort and refuse! God formed the crooked serpent by his hand (Job 26:13)KJV. The word ‘crooked’ means: evil, subtil, wicked, vile. The serpent (satan,devil) was evil, subtil, wicked, vile by creation, not pure, holy, good as you have claimed. Bismark (a Zimbabwean novice preacher), said and I quote: “serpent was a healer, good in the beginning, created to destroy viruses” while JESUS said: ‘’the devil (satan, serpent) was a murderer in the beginning’. Bismark who claims to be an apostle, preached this error (deception) at Eddie Long’s church in the US. Bismark further said: “the word subtle means, intellectual, the serpent was wise to clean the garden”. satan according to the bible is not intellectual, the word ‘subtil’ is the word: ‘evil, subtil, wicked, vile’. While he said that the people were screaming and shouting not hearing the error he was speaking. To know more about subtility of the serpent read 2 Cor 11:3, 1 Tim 2:14. The scriptures says the serpent deceived Eve, by subtility (evil). The serpent was never good, never a healer, never created to destroy viruses. He was evil from the beginning, a devil, murderer (Jhn 8:44). The heaven which is implicated and you read in Rev 12:7-8 which satan fell from is Gen 1:7-8. satan has never been in heaven (God’s throne, God’s seat); he (satan) is a murder a thief, a liar and God NEVER permits liars, murderers, thieves in his throne, heaven, city (Rev 21:8, 22:15). Heaven is God's THRONE (seat)- Matt 23:22. It is not a place of fighting; it is God's ruling throne, and the holy city (Rev 22:19,14) is for his children. AND HIS WILL IS DONE IN HEAVEN!(Mtt 6:9-10). Rev 12 is speaking about the birth Jesus, Mary, Herod (red dragon) who killed the 3rd of the children of Rama; and it reveals satan (great dragon,devil). Never take scriptures out of context and mix verses you have no business mixing.AS YOU DO EZEK 28 with ISAI 14. Isai 14:12 is a proverb against the king of Babylon (not satan), Ezek 28 is a lamentation against King of Tyrus (not satan). These two kings are evil kings, they had to be judged and cast to hell, the same way Jesus said would happen to Capernaum(Matt 11:23, Luk 10:15). Before you read Rev 12 have you read Rev 9. IF YOU HAVE NOT READ Rev 9, you will propagate and proliferate what you said because you have never read the bible from genesis to revelation non-stop. You have used your carnal(eartlhy,satanic) mind and have taught what other deceivers have taught. GOD CREATED THE CROOKED SERPENT BY HIS HAND (Job 26:13). And that serpent is satan, devil, crooked serpent, liar, deceiver of all the world, great dragon, old serpent, belial, and he (satan) has his beginning as a devil and will burn in the lake of fire forever and ever (Rev 20:10). ALLELUIYA! satan is called the angel of the bottomless pit, not angel of heaven(read REV 9:11). He is a king over the evil beasts you read in the book of revelation. He is NEVER called LUCIFER but "They have as king over them, the angel of the BOTTOMLESSPIT; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the Greek he has the name Apollyon." The word abyss is the phrase in KJV "bottomless pit" not HEAVEN. The names of satan are ABADDON and APOLLYON, one is destructor and another destroyer. And God created the destroyer (waster) (Isai 54:16). Search the scriptures! You will see that for yourself. Do not add to the bible. Satan was NEVER an angel of light and has never been in heaven (God’s seat, God throne) leading worship. 2 Cor 11:14 reads "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light". satan himself is transformed into an angel of LIGHT. HIMSELF! If he transformed himself to an angel of light, it means HE WAS NEVER an angel of light. That is faking! It is the same sin for which the evil angels in the book of Jude 1:6 are reserved in darkness for and in chains for, they are there for the sin of making themselves ‘messengers of light’ as did satan (Jude 1:6). Satan transformed himself. The bible says HIMSELF! God never made him a worship angel of light. SATAN does that himself! NOT GOD made him an angel of light. The light is Jesus(Matt 4:16, Jhn 1:4-5,9, 3:19,8:12,9:5,12:35-36,46). satan WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF JESUS(LIGHT,GOD). AND GOD IS LIGHT AND GOD NEVER MADE satan an angel of worship! The scripture NEVER TEACHES that, you lying theologians(vipers) teach that. You market satan as an angel of LIGHT(JESUS). In other words you are his (satan) messengers, false apostles, promoting satan (2 Cor 11:13-16). one false preacher said and I quote: “Lucifer[satan,devil] was holy, pure and he held an office of significance in heaven]”. What did JESUS say? He said he(satan) was a DEVIL [MURDERER] from the beginning but they say JESUS (GOD) is wrong, lying, they proclaim’ satan was an angel of worship, an ark angel protecting the throne (heaven, seat) of GOD. This is what lying pastors say! They are wolves in sheep skin. Furthermore if you claim LUCIFER to be satan as an anointed cherub. Do you know what you are doing? you are saying satan (devil, murderer from the beginning) was anointed. And do you know what the anointing is? it is the HOLY SPIRIT and POWER, that means you are saying satan had the HOLY SPIRIT and POWER. And that is a sin that WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN IN THIS WORLD AND IN THE WORLD TO COME (Matt 12:31). “but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men” HARD! HMMM, this is an african preacher who is not afraid of theologians but a man who is a prince of the of the ROYAL BAKWENA BAMARE-A-PHOGOLE nation, Prophet S.STEPHEN Mogagabe. International Cell No.:+27820532122 (website http://mogagabess.magix.net/website). Address: PO Box 7001, Bamare-A-Phogole, 2843, South Africa. PART 2-DISCUSION I QUOTE WHAT YOU said: "My friend, you confuse me". NO! I do not confuse you are have been confused by lying pastors who taught you that satan was in heaven (God’s throne) when he was never in the heaven (throne of God) but heaven which is the firmament (Gen 1:7-8). the heaven you read in Rev 12 which you have quoted not in the KJV (which is another error you are doing not reading the bible in KJV), that HEAVEN is FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8)-read KJV! Thief (is satan), murderer is satan, dragon is satan, satan is devil, father of lies, ALL THIS WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne, God’s seat)! Did you not read what Jesus said when he said "thieves cannot approach HEAVEN". Satan is a murderer and murderers are never permitted (Rev 22:15,21:8) in heaven(God’s throne, God’s seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) GOD who said murderers are never permitted in heaven (Rev 22:15,21:8) has never changed; he(God, Jesus) has been the same and his word has never changed(Heb 13:8). God (Jesus), is the same, yesterday, today and forever. If he (God and Word) said that; he has forever said that. When JESUS said: "I saw satan fall like lightning from heaven" this heaven you read is the same as the one you read in GEN 1:8 (read KJV). Because he (GOD) is the Lord God who created the heaven and the earth, and the same Lord God said: “heaven is firmament” Gen 1:8. The second part with all preachers you claim that there is one heaven , and you are lying. The bible teaches about heaven as: 1. firmament (sky) expanse, dome- Gen 1:7-8 KJV, this firmament (heaven) is going to be burned with fire together with the earth when God judgment takes place (2 Pet 3:12,7). this is the heaven where the PRINCE OF PERSIA withstood Gabriel the angel of God (Dan10:13). those whom the Lord Jesus showed this heaven knows and have seen it , and have said it is dark, evil and gross darkness, this is where the devil was. This is an evil spiritual celestial realm, called high places (Eph 6:12). When Jesus took them to heaven (God’s holy and pure heaven of heavens), they passed this dark ‘heaven’ inhabited by evil principalities. You do not know because you do not read the many testimonies that Jesus has provided to help your aid you away from ignorance. 2. generations of heavens (Gen 2:1) 3. heavens Gen 2:1 KJV 4. heaven of heavens- this one look it for yourself! 5. heaven (God's throne) 1 king 22:19, psa 11:4 So before you confuse yourself; study heavens, heaven and all heavens in the bible; you will stop coming to hasty conclusions. JESUS IS NOT CONFUSED WHEN HE SAID HE SAW SATAN FALL LIKE A LIGHTING FROM HEAVEN; HE SAID FIRMAMENT (Gen 1:8). BECAUSE HE(JESUS) WAS THE MAN CHILD WHO YOU HAVE READ OVER IN THE SAME BOOK OF REV 12:5 YOU’ve QUOTED! Rev 12 speaks of Jesus Birth as the man child who was caught up to HIS THRONE, DO YOU SEE THRONE, AND DO YOU SEE HEAVEN! TWO DIFFERENT WORDS USED IN THE SAME REVELATION 12! how blind can you be! Micheal and the dragon fought in the HEAVEN(FIRMAMENT)-GEN 1:7-8. John the apostle, wrote ‘throne; and ‘heaven’ in the same verse to show you the truth, but you still do not want to accept his testimony. Your eyes are covered with satanic blindness and deception! When you read Rev 12:1 is speaks of Mary the woman who is clothed and carrying what he is carrying, the red dragon is Herod who killed the 3rd of the children of RAMA (Matt 2:15-19,20), and the man child is JESUS who was caught up to his throne. The great dragon that dragon is not the red dragon, that great dragon which is not red is satan; and he (satan, devil, old serpent) was cast out of heaven (firmament). "AND LORD CALLED THE FIRMAMENT HEAVEN"(Gen 1:7-8).The firmament is called heaven! YOU CANNOT FIGHT IN GOD'S THRONE (HEAVEN, God seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). But you can fight in the firmament which is (heaven-the sky). This is the exact realm called high places (Eph 6:12), where the prince of Persia withstood Gabriel (Dan 10:13). This heaven (firmament) is not GOD’S THRONE (HEAVEN, SEAT,CITY). Before you start reading Rev 12 have you read revelation 9? where did that dragon you are reading about come from? THE BOTTOMLESS PIT! HE CAME AS A KING OVER THEM "evil creatures", and that king is called the angel of the bottomless pit, abaddon and appolyn". Do not jump verses! read, and read and read and read! Be humble let the word of God teach you, do not come with our opinions and thoughts. PART 3 DISCUSSION I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “If you care to read Isaiah 14:12 you will see that God is speaking of Satan as, Lucifer, son of the morning." STOP, YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! LUCIFER to be satan or as satan. All this is what theologians teach! And it is untrue, you like saying things you do not know, don't you! That verse you have quoted never said what you are claiming. You said: “you will see that God is speaking of satan”. THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT! GOD NEVER SPOKE THAT. YOU HAVE LIED ABOUT GOD AND HIS HOLY WORD! DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE PASTORS IN HELL WHO ARE BURNING FOR TWISTING GOD’S HOLY WORD LIKE YOU. (Read the revelations of hell by those JESUS appointed and took to hell in order to record it for your learning). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer if you care to search the scripture's is a created being, one of only four angels mentioned [Michael, Gabriel, Lucifer and Apollyon] in the Bible." LYING! THERE IS MORE THAN FOUR ANGELS (Heb 12:22), and there are EVIL ANGELS (Psa 78:49), YOU LYING, THERE IS MORE THAN FOUR ANGELS, YOU LYING THING! YOU ARE FULL OF LIES, LUCIFER IS NOT AN ANGEL CREATED, THE BIBLE NEVER SAID THAT! WHICH BIBLE SAID THAT? NOT KJV, i sure know that, maybe it is the bible you have written or the one which benny hinn, tb jakes, myles , hagee are propagating. JESUS (GOD) said the devil, was a devil, murderer from the beginning, HE (JESUS) never ever said he was “LUCIFER”. The devil was a serpent subtil from the beginning. Read Gen 3:1, Job 26:13, Isai 54:16 the serpent was made a serpent (devil, waster). This serpent is called old serpent in the book of Revelation 12:9 I QOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Isaiah 14:12-15 declares that this created being who is named Lucifer, son of the morning, in his pride because of his desire to usurp God Almighty from His Throne, was thrown down out of Heaven where he [Lucifer] had a place of significance". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! “LUCIFER CREATED?”. HMM...ALL LIES! Lucifer ‘heylel’ is Light Bringer, Light Bearer, Morning Star. And Jesus is the Morning Star. Light bearer and bringer (Below I have quoted all the verses that shows us all that, look at them and stop your lies). Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus which you also misquote). Don’t be blind how can you mix two kings (tyrus and babylon) and make them satan. You are lying and you know that! LUCIFER [satan, devil] as you said HAD A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE? WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT? NO WHERE, NOT IN THE KJV OF THE BIBLE! IT IS YOUR OWN WORDS, NOT THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE NEVER SAID, AND I QUOTE YOUR WORDS: “his desire to usurp God Almighty from his throne”. YA! YOU ARE REALLY FULL OF LIES, REPENT AND BE SAVED FROM THE BURNING FIRE OF HELL THAT SHALL BURN ALL WHO MAKE LIES AND TWIST THE WORD OF GOD LIKE SATAN DID WHEN HE SPOKE TO EVE. Satan has never approached God’s heaven(seat), when did he enter heaven(Luk 12:33) , to usurp GOD Almighty as you claim? DO YOU KNOW WHO GOD ALMIGHTY IS? GOD ALMIGHTY IS JESUS (Isai 9:6). Satan has never had an entrance into God’s heaven, sit, throne and city, for satan to enter he must enter through the door, and the door is Jesus, Jesus said he is the door of the sheep(Jhn 10:7,9), not door of satan! Satan has never had an entrance and will never have it for ever, you lying thing!! He(satan) has never had a place in the throne, seat and city of God. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “Lucifer [Satan, devil, dragon] said his haughtiness". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, LUCIFER IS SATAN WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT. Lucifer is Light Bringer, Light Bearer, Morning Star. And Jesus is the Morning Star, Light Bearer and Bringer (Below I have quoted all the verses that shows us all that, look at them and stop your lies). Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus which you also misquote). JESUS SAID: "the devil was a murderer from the beginning (Jhn 8:44)!"JESUS SAID THAT HE(satan) WAS A DEVIL, A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING NOT ANGEL of worship! JESUS SAID A “DEVIL” WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING! Not an angel of worship, ark angel, and protector of the throne of God from the BEGINNING. When things began he was a devil, a murderer NOT ANGEL OF WORSHIP,OR A PROTECTOR OF THE THRONE OF GOD AS YOU SAY! NOT WHAT YOU SAID. I DISAGREE AND REJECT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, you are spreading evil lies, deception, iniquity, blasphemy and you make lies (Rev 22:15). JESUS is God! And God NEVER lies, He(JESUS) is the TRUTH. I QUOTE YOU SAID: "down out of Heaven where he [Lucifer] had a place of significance". LUCIFER[who you call satan] NEVER HAD A PLACE OF SIGNIFICANCE IN HEAVEN (GOD'S THRONE-seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! YOU LIE AGAIN BY SAYING LUCIFER IS, I QUOTE: Lucifer "[Satan, devil, dragon]". Satan NEVER held the title of LUCIFER ‘heylel’, LIGHT BEARER, LIGHT BRINGER, MORNING STAR. WHEN DID HE DO THAT , BECAUSE JESUS IS THE MORNING STAR. AND JESUS WHO IS THE MONRING STAR, LIGHT BEARER, BRINGER ‘heylel’, IS GOD, AND HE HAS BEEN GOD FOREVER. WHEN DID SATAN OCCUPY HIS(JESUS, GOD) PLACE? He(satan) has never and shall never!!! Never be morning star. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "And for this reason it cost him his esteemed place in heaven." YOU ARE LYING AGAIN "him" NEVER HAD AN ESTEEMED PLACE IN HEAVEN (GOD’S THRONE)! HEAVEN IS GOD’S THRONE (SEAT), AND HE (satan) NEVER HAD IT; THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT, IT IS WHAT ALL THEOLOGIANS TEACH! And you know you are lying. GOD'S THRONE (HEAVEN, God seat- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). SATAN[DRAGON,DEVIL,OLD SERPENT], is from the bottomlesspit READ THE BIBLE(Rev 9:1-13) NOT HEAVEN (God’s throne- God’s seat)! HEAVEN IS GOD'S THRONE! (Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18) SATAN NEVER HAD A THRONE IN HEAVEN(GOD’S THRONE)! THE STAR OPENED THE BOTTOMLESS PIT (REV 9) AND EVIL CREATURES CAME OUT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT WAS A KING OVER THEM, THAT KING IS ABADDON, APOLYON, SATAN, DEVIL. THE BIBLE DID NOT SAY HE CAME OUT OF HEAVEN BUT OUT OF THE BOTTOMLES PIT! BUT YOU WON’T AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU LIED ABOUT THE BIBLE, you have jumped chapter 9, in your un-teachable attitude and spirit of error. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID:"the serpent, became the vessel through which this fallen angel Lucifer [Lucifer has the ability to disguise himself in any way] could communicate with Eve to beguile her". JESUS IS ‘heylel’ in KJV is written ‘LUCIFER’, and LUCIFER means (light bearer,light bringer, morning star). See verses and bible references I have listed below in the study, you will stop saying what you are saying. AHA, I WANTED to hear what you are saying and you made it clear that you are confused! SATAN IS NOT A FALLEN ANGEL! HE IS AN ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT AND THE KJV BIBLE SAYS THAT; NOT FALLEN ANGEL, BUT ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT! YOU ARE full of LYING, LUCIFER DOES NOT DISGUISE HIMSELF AND HAS NO ABILITY TO DISGUISE HIMSELF, NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT TEACH THAT, BUT LIKE ALL THEOLOGIANS YOU LIE ABOUT THINGS AND ADD TO THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE SAYS: "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.". IT NEVER SAID SATAN WAS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. IT SAYS HE IS AN ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT[Rev 9] NOT LUCIFER OF HEAVEN AS YOU SAID.THIS SCRIPTURE IS SAYING SATAN HIMSELF! DID YOU HEAR? Satan HIMSELF! IT NEVER SAID GOD MADE HIM AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, BUT SATAN HIMSELF! HE WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF LIGHT IN THE BEGINNING AND JESUS SAID THAT HE(satan) WAS A DEVIL IN THE BEGINNING! AND JESUS IS GOD, AND GOD(JESUS) SAID SATAN WAS A DEVIL (MURDERER) IN THE BEGINNING; I BELIEVE HIM(JESUS) NOT YOU! MY JESUS CHRIST NEVER LIES, you are the ones who lie, you came out of your father satan, you lie like him, there is no truth in you. I QUOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: "No sir you are wrong in your assumption that the serpent is the devil, or Lucifer or Satan" THE BIBLE TEACHES US THAT SATAN IS AN OLD SERPENT(Rev 20:2)! DOES NOT IT! WHAT IS A SERPENT? OH! I SEE, YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THE BIBLE, YOU BELIEVE LIES; THE BIBLE CALLS SATAN AN OLD SERPENT, YOU SAY NO! HE IS NOT, HE IS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT(ark angel, throne protector of God, worship angel). SO WHAT ARE YOU? A CHILD OF SATAN 100% , you ARE NOT GOD! You speak against GOD(Jesus). YOU PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL NOT JESUS’ GOSPEL. THE BIBLE SAYS WE MUST NOT ACCEPT SUCH A PERSON LIKE YOU WHO PREACH ANOTHER GOSPEL(2 Cor 11:4, 2 Jhn 1:10,9). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer led a rebellion in heaven against God and was thrown out of God's Kingdom taking with him 13 of the heavenly hosts". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! GOD'S ANGELS NEVER REBEL AND NEVER DO. THERE ARE HOLY ANGELS AND EVIL ANGELS.READ THE KJV (PS 78:49) "He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels [among them]". YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT YOU DO NOT READ THE BIBLE, WAKE UP THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS. READ THE REVELATION OF HELL BY THOSE THE LORD JESUS HAVE SHOWED HELL, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS, CREATURES, BEASTS IN HELL, AND YOU WILL STOP, BLASPHEMING THE NAME OF JESUS. Be humble! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: “was thrown out of God’s Kingdom”. HEY! YOU ARE RELY FULL OF LIES, SATAN WAS NEVER IN GOD’S KINGDOM, HE IS AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD NOT IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, HE WAS AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD, murderer, devil from the beginning. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? CAN’T YOU JUST ACCEPT THE SCRIPTURES THE WAY THEY ARE AND STOP ADDING TO THE HOLY WORD OF GOD(Deut 4:2,Prov 30:5). LUCIFER NEVER took 1/3 OF THE ANGELS; WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT. YOU HAVE LIED AGAIN. THE 1/3 OF THE STARS THAT FELL WHERE THE CHILDREN OF RAMA (Mat 2:15-18,20). "In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping [for] her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not." THE RED DRAGON you read in Rev 12 is HEROD. And the woman you read about in Rev 12:1-2 IS MARY and the man child is JESUS, who was caught up to HIS THRONE. DID YOU SEE HIS THRONE IN THAT KJV BIBLE. HEAVEN IS JESUS THRONE! AND HE SAT ON IT! As he sat on his throne he saw SATAN FALL FROM HEAVEN (FIRMAMENT) (READ GEN 1:7-8). This heaven is not GOD's throne but the sky the KJV say FIRMAMENT! By the time satan fell, JESUS was sitting in his throne (heaven- Matt 23:22, Rev 4:2, Acts 7:49, Matt 5:34, Isai 66:1, Psa 11:4, 2 Chr 18:18). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "You can read about this revolution in Isaiah 14:12-20 and Ezekiel 28:11-19. Ezekiel's lamentation concerning this fallen-being gives one an indication of the beauty of Lucifer." HMM.., FULL OF LIES..YOU STILL YOU MIX EZEK 28 WITH ISAI 14, that’s what all liars say. You teach deception, deceit, error, lies, doctrines of devils not JESUS DOCTRINE! Isai 14:12 is addressed to the king of Babylon, who wanted to be worshipped and be equal to JESUS (Morning Star), and God sent the prophet to tell him he will be cast to hell. STOP LYING!! (God did the same with Capernaum, King of Tyrus (Ezek 28) which you also misquote). I have heard that and the bible does not say that error, deception! THE BIBLE SAYS: "That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon" IT NEVER SAID SATAN! It said king of Babylon. DOES YOUR BIBLE HAVE KING OF BABYLON or did it change itself to replace the phrase “king of Babylon” to satan. I GUESS NOT! YOU ARE STILL FULL OF LIES, YOU TWIST VERSES AND BIBLE SCRIPTURES. THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU! EZEK 28, is a lamentation to the King of Tyrus, not satan. YOU ARE FULL OF LIES! I QOUTE WHAT YOU SAID: “Furthermore if you care to read up on Job 1:6-7, you will see that the sons of God, the angels, came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan was among them [v6]" STOP! HERE IS ANOTHER LIE, SONS OF GOD, THE ANGELS, NEVER!!! THE BIBLE SAYS THE SONS OF GOD NOT ANGELS, THE KJV SAYS: “SONS OF GOD”. ANGELS ARE NEVER SONS! AND THEY WILL NEVER BE FOR ETERNITY. THE SCRIPURE SAYS: "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? " Heb 1:5 ANGELS ARE NEVER SONS , THAT IS ANOTHER LIE WHICH THEOLOGIANS AND PASTORS PREACH! YOU LIE ALL THE TIME! THERE IS NO ANGEL WHICH IS A SON OR SONS! I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WHY GOD NEVER ALLOWED ME TO STUDY THEOLOGY, THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR PROTECTING ME FROM LIES. I GIVE YOU HONOUR AND GLORY. THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING MY HEART FROM DECEPTION BY YOUR HOLY WORD. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Notice that Satan says walking. If Satan as you say is a serpent then how come he is walking as verse 7". THIS IS ANOTHER CONFUSION; YOU FORGOT WHAT THE BIBLE SAY: HE IS A FATHER OF LIES.THIEF, MURDERER, DEVIL, DRAGON, ANGEL OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, SERPENT (OLD SERPENT). YOU QUOTED THE WORDS OF satan, you quoted his lies. God never said that; but satan said that, so satan’s children like to say what you are saying. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "So Satan, devil, Lucifer is summoned from time to time to appear before God Almighty,because God is still the Sovereign Ruler of his creation, and when He summons angels, fallen or otherwise they obey. " YOU ARE LYING; THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY SATAN IS LUCIFER THERE IS NO SCRIPTURE LIKE THAT IN THE BIBLE; AND NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT SATAN APPEARED BEFORE GOD FROM TIME TO TIME! NO WHERE! HE IS AN ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN (Rev 9:10); BUT THE SCRIPTURE NEVER SAID HE APPEARS BEFORE GOD FROM TIME TO TIME. THE KJV SAYS: “for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before God DAY AND NIGHT”. DO YOU SEE DAY AND NIGHT? Not from time to time, you are a liar, you add to the bible, and the same book of Revelation says: “if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add him the plagues that are written in this book, and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, GOD shall take away his part out of the book of life” (Rev 22:18-19). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Lucifer is known by several different names. Rev 12:9 states, "And the great dragon was cast out, 'that old serpent', called the Devil, and Satan which deceives the whole world". DO YOU SEE THIS VERSE YOU HAVE QUOTED? IT SAYS GREAT DRAGON, OLD SERPENT, CALLED THE DEVIL AND SATAN”. Do you see that there is no angel of worship, or ark angel or Lucifer. IT SAYS SATAN! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? ARE YOU STILL BLIND, THAT YOU CAN’T SEE THE VERSE YOU HAVE QUOTED? WHEN I CAST OUT DEVILS; I HEAR THEM SAY “I AM LUCIFER”, THEY ARE STILL LYING EVEN IF THEY SAY THAT; THEY ARE LIARS AND SATAN IS THE FATHER OF LIES. LUCIFER IS NOT SATAN, LUCIFER IS THE HEBREW WORD, WHICH MEANS: “heylel”. This word means: light bringer, light bearer (Acts 9:3, Jhn 12:46,36,35, 9:5, 3:21,19, 1:9,5,4 ). ONLY JESUS IS THE LIGHT AND LIGHT BEARER AND BRINGER! SATAN HAS NEVER BEEN A LIGHT BEARER AND BRINGER, JESUS SAID HE WAS A MURDERER, DEVIL FROM BEGINNING. JESUS NEVER SAID HE(satan) IS A LIGHT BEARER, DID HE? YOU ARE SAYING JESUS “SAID HE(satan) IS A LIGHT BEARER, BRINGER AND THAT MAKES YOU A LIAR (DEVIL). YOU ARE A LIAR! A DEVIL, CHILD OF SATAN, THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU AND IN YOU TONGUE, REPENT! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "but rather the man-child spoken of is the many Jews who will come into repentance during the Great Tribulation." YOU ARE LYING, child of satan! THE BIBLE SAYS THE MAN CHILD NOT JEWS! AND IT SAYS “TO HIS THRONE”, NOT THEIR THRONES! YOU ARE LYING, little viper! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Your continuous mention that Satan was never an angel of light is unfounded because scripture implies that he was (2 Corinthians 11:14)." YOU LIKE QUOTING VERSES YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND, DON’T YOU? YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, IT SAY SATAN HIMSELF! NOT GOD HIMSELF TRANSFORMED HIM (satan) INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT". HE (devil) WAS NEVER angel of worship, HE (satan) TRANSFORMED HIMSELF, HE WAS NEVER an angel of worship, leading worship BY CREATION, HE DOES THAT(transformation) HIMSELF! DO NOT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES! IF HE (satan) TRANSFORMS/TRANSFORMED HIMSELF, INTO AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, IT MEANS HE (satan) WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF WORSHIP, LIGHT. YOUR IGNORANCE IS HUGE AND BLINDING YOU. Satan was created serpent (waster, devil, murderer)- Read Gen 3:1, Job 26:13, Isai 54:16 the serpent was made a serpent (devil, waster).. YOU ARE MARKETING HIM (satan) AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT WHEN JESUS SAID HE WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING! In simple terms you are his servants doing satan’s bidding marketing him to be good, while he was a devil, murderer from the beginning. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Satan was in his original state the Morning star. He was once known as the [bright day-star] morning star". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN HE WAS NEVER A MORNING STAR THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THAT, HE (satan) WAS NEVER A BRIGHT DAY STAR, YOU SAY THAT NOT THE KJV BIBLE. JESUS SAID: “HE WAS DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING” (Jhn 8:44). HIS ORIGINAL STATE WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER ACCORDING TO JESUS (GOD). AND YOU ARE NOT GOD (JESUS), you are a liar. YOU ARE AGAINST GOD’S WORD AND GOD IS HIS WORD (Jhn 1:1).YOU SAY HE (satan) WAS A MORNING STAR, HOW CONFUSED CAN YOU BE! YOU ARE CHILDREN OF SATAN, YOU TWIST SCRIPTURES, THERE IS NO TRUTH IN YOU! I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID : "Jesus Christ is now the worthy title holder of "the bright morning star". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, JESUS HAS BEEN WORTHY BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD! JESUS HAS NEVER BEEN UNWORTHY! HE WAS WITH GOD AND IS GOD, MIGHTY GOD (Jhn 1:1, Isai 9:6). HE IS THE MORNING STAR IN OUR HEARTS!(2 Pet 1:9, Rev 22:16). JESUS WAS, AND IS THE MORNING STAR FOREVER. HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER. SATAN NEVER HELD THE TITLE OF MORNING STAR. JESUS IS THE MORNING STAR FOREVER. HE IS THE BEGINNING (MORNING STAR) AND THE END (MORNING STAR). MORNING STAR IN THE KJV IS DAY STAR! DONT LIE TO ME! I HATE LIES! I HAVE RECEIVED THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH(Holy Spirit), AND THE TRUTH (JESUS). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "Satan when he was Lucifer in heaven was an anointed cherub, because God set it so". YOU ARE FULL OF LIES ARENT YOU? SATAN when he was lucifer? JESUS SAID HE WAS A DEVIL FROM THE BEGINNING. THE BEGINNING IS WHERE THINGS BEGAN! HE BEGAN A DEVIL NOT AN ANOINTED CHERUB! AND JESUS SAID THAT!(Jhn 8:44). YOU SAY, “because God set it so’. NO WHERE DID GOD SET IS SO IN THE WHOLE KJV BIBLE. YOU SAY HE(satan) WAS ANOINTED? NO; HE WAS NEVER, SATAN WAS NEVER ANOINTED AND WAS NEVER IN HEAVEN(God’s throne)! WHEN THE ANOINTING COMES ON YOU CANNOT LIE AND YOU ABIDE IN THE TRUTH!(1 JHN 2:27). SATAN NEVER ABODE IN THE TRUTH (Jhn 8:44). THE ANOINTING IS THE HOLY SPIRIT AND POWER! (Acts 10:38).HOW WAS SATAN ANOINTED WITH THE HOLY GHOST? YOU ARE LYING AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE LYING! Child of satan! Your tongue is full of poison (false doctrine, doctrine of devils, seducing spirits). I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID "As an anointed cherub he walked in beauty and splendor amongst the Holy Mountain of God, up and down in the midst of the stones of fire, Ezekiel 28:14. Yes he was an anointed angel; but lost that pure, holy and perfect anointed state because of rebellion. But Satan can, given the opportunity anoint a human being with evil, hatred, murder, envy, maliciousness, corruption etc.” YOU ARE LYING AGAIN, HE WAS NEVER PURE, HOLY AND PERFECT, JESUS said he was a devil (murderer) from the beginning! SO ACCORDING TO YOU, satan was holy, pure, in other words, you are a satan worshipper, you proclaim him to have been holy and pure, WHEN JESUS said he (satan) was a DEVIL, MURDERER from the BEGINNING (Jhn 8:44). YOU ARE NOT arguing with me, you are arguing against GOD (Jesus), who said: “he (satan) was a DEVIL, MURDERER from the BEGINNING” (Jhn 8:44). And be rest assured you will never win against GOD (Jesus)-Acts 5:39, 23:9. No matter how much you try to come up with ways to make your ‘lies’ complex, you will remain a liar and GOD (Jesus), will remain true. I QUOTE WHAT YOU SAID: "My writings are purely research based on facts and scripturally sound”. SO FAR NOTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS BIBLICAL; IT IS CARNAL AND THEOLOGIAL, AS ALL THEOLOGIANS LIE; YOU HAVE SAID EXACTLY THAT (LIE); IT IS NOTHING NEW BUT WHAT THEY TEACH! MAY BE YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID: “my writings are evily satanic based of satan and satan spoken”. NOTHING YOU SAY IS BIBLICAL! REPENT FOR THERE IS HELL FIRE AND THE LAKE OF FIRE THAT WILL DESTROY FOREVER AND EVER THOSE WHO MAKE LIES LIKE YOU (Rev 21:27, 22:15). TODAY, YOU ARE GIVEN A CHANCE TO REPENT AND TURN FROM YOUR WICKED WAYS! (I, S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE, PROPHET OF THE LIVING GOD; FORGIVE YOU THIS DAY, FOR SPEAKING LIES WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD OTHERS SPEAK, HAVE WROTE AND TEACH, I FORGIVE YOU IN JESUS NAME. AND I URGE EVERYONE WHO WILL READ THIS MESSAGE TO FORGIVE ALL THOSE WHO SPOKE THIS ERROR AND DECEIT. FORGIVE THEM; BUT CONTINUE TO STAND AGAINST ERROR [DECEPTION], DOCTRINES OF DEVILS (1 Tim 4:1). IF YOU SEE YOUR BROTHER ERR, CORRECT AND REBUKE HIM, IN THAT WAY YOU WOULD HAVE SAVED HIM FROM DEATH (Lev 19:17, 1 Jhn 5:16)). PART 4 DISCUSSION I QUOTE: YOU SAID "Now, you do raise an interesting point about the Son's of God. I don't believe that the "son's of God in Genesis 6 are angels but I do believe the one's in Job are. [shrug] Satan and the other sons of God were angels but as we learned in several places; Jude, James and Revelation, they rebelled against God.” YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! AS ALL THEOLOGIANS DO! Gen 6 is talking about the “SONS OF GOD” it NEVER said they are angels. It said they are SONS OF GOD, read the KJV bible. WHICH OF THE ANGELS DID GOD EVER SAY YOU ARE MY SON? ANSWER ME! WHICH? NONE IN ALL THE BIBLE, YOU HAVE HEARD THAT FROM THEOLOGIANS WHO ADD TO THE BIBLE AND READ IT IN PIECES. HEB1:5 READ IT IN KJV! THE BOOK OF JOB IS SPEAKING about the "sons of GOD" not angels! READ KJV! YOU SAID AGAIN "satan amongst angels". YOU ARE LYING AGAIN! Read KJV it says satan amongst the SONS OF GOD! HOW CROOKED can you be! SONS AND ANGELS ARE NOT THE SAME AND WILL NEVER BE THE SAME FOREVER AND EVER! DO NOT ADD TO THE SCRIPTURES YOUR IDEAS. READ HEB 1:5 BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND AND CONFUSED, YOU SAID: "I believe that he was an angel created by God to serve but who rebelled". WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY HE WAS AN ANGEL WHO SERVED? SATAN WAS NEVER AND ANGEL WHO SERVED! NEVER! HE (satan) WAS A DEVIL (MURDERER) FROM THE BEGINNING AND JESUS (GOD) SAID THAT. You are all saying that JESUS is a LIAR because you think He (JESUS) is lying, JESUS SAID HE (satan) WAS A DEVIL, MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING. When things began he (satan, devil) began a devil (murderer). THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH! and JESUS who said that is GOD and LORD.AMEN! I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART, HE IS MY GOD AND I WILL NEVER BE ASHAMED OF HIS WORDS. I LOVE THEM (his words) AND I WILL ABIDE IN THEM FOREVER. YOU SAID AGAIN: "Jude6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" KJV. DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE EVIL ANGELS? Read the bible, those are the angels. Read Psa 78:49 (read KJV). BECAUSE YOU ARE BLIND, LET ME OPEN UP YOUR EYES. 1. ANGELS ARE SPIRITS (search for this verse, you will see it in the bible) 2. EVIL ANGELS (Psa 78:49), are EVIL SPIRITS 3. EVIL SPIRITS ARE DEMONS, DEVILS 4. WHEN YOU READ THE REVELATION OF HELL, by those JESUS appeared to, they have recorded, that Jesus said: “the demon which was cast out, was having one wing, the other wing broke, when the man of God cast it out to the abyss (deep)”. THE PROBLEM WITH YOU PASTORS YOU ARE NOT HUMBLE, YOU REFUSE THE BIBLE AND PREACH LIES IN JESUS CHURCH (Acts 20:28). You are become [grievous] ravening wolves (Acts 20:29). CONCLUSION: I am not against preachers, I love them, I urge them to repent, I am 100% against lies they have taught and teach. If and when they repent our Heavenly Father will forgive them, Jesus will forgive them, and the Holy Spirit will forgive them. I urge you to study the bible correctly with the Holy Spirit, and preach the truth of God whether people [co-partners or pastors] like you or not. JESUS never lies and never lied, he is THE TRUTH. I desire all preachers teach no other doctrine, but Christ’s doctrine and sound doctrine. I am here to tell you to repent, for I am sent to warn you and to tell you to return to the bible. Do not preach lies, fables, stories. Preach the word in season out of season, line upon line, precept upon precept, teach the sound doctrine and add nothing to it. Do your best to read the revelations of hell and heaven by those whom the Lord appeared to, I read them, I soak myself in them for they are the words of JESUS to warn this perverse and adulterous generation. Now i declare unto you this day as a prophet of the living God, i forgive you. i forgive you for teaching error(doctrine of devils, spirit of error) in the church. i stand on behalf of the church of the living God, i stand to forgive you, start today to preach the truth. your sins are forgiven. I forgive you benny hinn, td jakes, myles, hagee, i forgive you in Jesus name! Start afresh! Jesus (God) loves you. I release you from that chain of satan, that held your tongue and release you from accusation. The anointing will teach you all things From PRINCE S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE To contact PRINCE S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE (Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe) Email: mogagabess@yahoo.com Website: http://mogagabess.magix.net/website Cell Number: +27820532122 (International Line) Address: PO BOX 7001, BAMARE-A-PHOGOLE, 2843, SOUTH AFRICA BIOGRAPHY OF PROPHET S.STEPHEN MOGAGABE S.Stephen Mogagabe is the first born son of King Harry Diale and Queen Pauline of the Royal Bakwena Bamare-A-Phogole Nation, a nation of black people in South Africa, whose land was taken away from them by whites in order to mine gold from it. Prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe, has learned valuable lessons from his up-bringing in pains, sufferings and imprisonment for lies. From these experiences he stands fast and firm on the word of KING JESUS. He is unmovable from the words of his KING. He suffered tortures at age fourteen until twenty five for standing for JESUS and accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour. He is sent into the ministry as a prophet to correct teachers, leaders, kings and world presidents, this was the first anointing that came upon his life. The second anointing he received was teaching, to teach God’s sheep the word of God. He has seen many angels, and spoke to them and have answered their questions, recently has seen a man from heaven, who taught him the bible, and has also seen the hand of the Lord, and the Lord Jesus gave him words to tell the people. He is not sent to entertain but to tear down lies that are taught in church, and to tell people to return to the bible. Of recent, his right hand and finger vanishes when he speaks to people God’s word, as a sign for his calling (see pictures of the man of God, prophet S.Stephen Mogagabe). You may request the pictures of the vanishing prophet at mogagabess@yahoo.com.