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by borasalama on December 21st, 2007
The HQ was revealed about 600 years after Jesus. In that time a lot of misinformation had given rise to confusion about the nature and mission of Jesus. This caused an even bigger error - the corruption of pure monotheism and the main message of Jesus.
The HQ defends Jesus and clears up all the confusions.
For example the HQ says that:
- the conception of Jesus involved only Mary and God's word. The command "Be" which God used to bring into being Jesus without a father and Adam without either father or mother.
- both Mary and Jesus were human beings. They both had humanly needs and did humanly things, like eating food (and by extension answering calls of nature)
- Jesus denies asking people to regard him or his mother as God
- Jesus submitted his will to God (ie was a Muslim)
- Jesus performed miracles with God's power not his own
- Jesus was not crucified
- no one carries the so called "original sin"
- everyone is answerable only for their own sins, not for their fathers' sin
etc etc
by Anonymous on December 9th, 2007
joseph never exsitd. the hoel story in the sheep barn is a lie! you will fiend your answer in the holy quran!
by Ahmed_225 on June 12th, 2009
the only prophet that there is an entire chapter talking (only) about his story is (JOSEPH) :)
for me it's the best chapter and i always love to hear it and recite
in arabic he is called (YOUSOF)
may be smoe engligh version of quran called him (YOUSEF) as in arabic ...
this is a link for chapter (12) (chapter of JOSEPH) http://www.quran.com/12
by JESUS-IS-MUSLIM on June 12th, 2009
It's very simple, The Noble Quran gives the true version of the story because it's the exact word of Allah (God). While the Bible is full of distortions, fabrications and contradictions and therefore it is not a trusted source/book.
Even the Vatican admits that the Bible can not be trusted:
'Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible'
The Roman Catholic Church has instructed the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true, and that they should not expect 'total accuracy' in Scripture. What do you look for when you read the Bible? Do you swear by it?
Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,564-1812166,00.html
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The Story of Jesus & His Mother, Mary (peace be upon them)
In the Noble Quran
[The Noble Quran 3:35-64]
003.035 (Remember) When a woman (wife) of Imran said: My Lord! surely I vow to Thee what is in my womb, to be devoted (to Thy service); accept therefore from me, surely Thou art the Hearing, the Knowing.
003.036 So when she brought forth, she said: My Lord! Surely I have brought it forth a female-- and Allah knew best what she brought forth-- and the male is not like the female, and I have named it Mariam (Mary), and I commend her and her offspring into Thy protection from the accursed Shaitan (Satan).
003.037 So her Lord accepted her with a good acceptance and made her grow up a good growing, and gave her into the charge of Zakariya; whenever Zakariya entered the sanctuary to (see) her, he found with her food. He said: O Mariam! whence comes this to you? She said: It is from Allah. Surely Allah gives to whom He pleases without measure.
003.038 There did Zakariya pray to his Lord; he said: My Lord! grant me from Thee good offspring; surely Thou art the Hearer of prayer.
003.039 Then the angels called to him as he stood praying in the sanctuary: That Allah gives you the good news of Yahya (John) verifying a Word from Allah, and honorable and chaste and a prophet from among the good ones.
003.040 He said: My Lord! when shall there be a son (born) to me, and old age has already come upon me, and my wife is barren? He said: even thus does Allah what He pleases.
003.041 He said: My Lord! appoint a sign for me. Said He: Your sign is that you should not speak to men for three days except by signs; and remember your Lord much and glorify Him in the evening and the morning.
003.042 And when the angels said: O Mariam! surely Allah has chosen you and purified you and chosen you above the women of the world.
003.043 O Mariam! Keep to obedience to your Lord and humble yourself, and bow down with those who bow.
003.044 This is of the announcements relating to the unseen which We reveal to you; and you were not with them when they cast their pens (to decide) which of them should have Mariam in his charge, and you were not with them when they contended one with another.
003.045 When the angels said: O Mariam, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the '. Messiah, Isa (Jesus) son of Mariam, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah).
003.046 And he shall speak to the people when in the cradle and when of old age, and (he shall be) one of the good ones.
003.047 She said: My Lord! when shall there be a son (born) to I me, and man has not touched me? He said: Even so, Allah creates what He pleases; when He has decreed a matter, He only says to it, Be, and it is.
003.048 And He will teach him the Book and the wisdom and the Torah and the Injeel (Gospel).
003.049 And (make him) a messenger to the children of Israel: That I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I determine for you out of dust like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird with Allah's permission and I heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah's permission and I inform you of what you should eat and what you should store in your houses; most surely there is a sign in this for you, if you are believers.
003.050 And a verifier of that which is before me of the Torah and that I may allow you part of that which has been forbidden to you, and I have come to you with a sign from your Lord therefore be careful of (your duty to) Allah and obey me.
003.051 Surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord, therefore serve Him; this is the right path.
003.052 But when Isa (Jesus) perceived unbelief on their part, he said: Who will be my helpers in Allah's way? The disciples said: We are helpers (in the way) of Allah: We believe in Allah and bear witness that we are submitting ones (Muslims).
003.053 Our Lord! We believe in what Thou hast revealed and we follow the messenger, so write us down with those who bear witness.
003.054 And they planned and Allah (also) planned, and Allah is the best of planners.
003.055 And when Allah said: O Isa (Jesus), I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, so l will decide between you concerning that in which you differed.
003.056 Then as to those who disbelieve, I will chastise them with severe chastisement in this world and the hereafter, and they shall have no helpers.
003.057 And as to those who believe and do good deeds, He will pay them fully their rewards; and Allah does not love the unjust.
003.058 This (which) We recite to you of the communications and the wise reminder.
003.059 Surely the likeness of Isa (Jesus) is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was.
003.060 (This is) the truth from your Lord, so be not of the disputers.
003.061 But whoever disputes with you in this matter after what has come to you of knowledge, then say: Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people, then let us be earnest in prayer, and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars.
003.062 Most surely this is the true explanation, and there is no god but Allah; and most surely Allah-- He is the Mighty, the Wise.
003.063 But if they turn back, then surely Allah knows the mischief-makers.
003.064 Say: O followers of the Book (Christians & Jews)! Come to an equitable proposition between us and you that we shall not serve any but Allah and (that) we shall not associate aught with Him, and (that) some of us shall not take others for lords besides Allah; but if they turn back, then say: Bear witness that we are Muslims.
by iraq on June 11th, 2009
there is entire sura in his name
by Theby on July 27th, 2008
He is called Yusuf.
by sydty2 on December 14th, 2007
While Jesus was on Earth, He took on the form of a man, but remained 100% God at the same time. In John 5:30 Jesus is telling the disciples that His job on earth is to do the will of His Father in Heaven. Jesus is God's Son. He is also setting an example for us to follow. He wants us to do nothing on our own iniciative, but to only follow our Father's will. That is why in Lord's prayer in Matthew, He say's "Your will be done."
As far as the Bible is concerned, I am using a man made version of the Holy Scriptures. The Bible that God inspired is written in Hebrew and Greek. I unfortunately can not read Hebrew or Greek, so I study one verse at a time. I can take my Bible version, and look up the words in the original Greek and Hebrew, and see for myself what the words are speaking of. This is how I study my Bible. The words are different, because the versions are different. That is why we are called to study to show ourselves approved unto God. (2 Timothy 2:15)
by sydty2 on December 9th, 2007
I have never read the qu'ran, but I do know that Joseph is not a really signigicant person as far as the birth of Christ is concerned. Jesus did not have an earthly father, because Mary had Jesus as a virgin. Joseph was engaged to Mary, and they did not get married until after the birth of Christ.
by sydty2 on December 14th, 2007
Please see answer 1 above...I wrote it in the wrong place.
by sydty2 on December 12th, 2007
See below.
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You're reading In the Qu'ran there is no mention of Joseph. Mary is a sacred woman who is helped by many followers, and Jesus was, as we know, a virgin birth. Why is there no mention of Joseph?
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"original sin" What do you mean by no one carried the original sin how is you view different from Christianity's view?
by kitten on June 16th, 2009
Oh and what about Joeseph did he exist as Mary's husband?
by kitten on June 16th, 2009
No the HQ has no mention of that Joseph, it has a long passage on Joseph s/o Jacob.
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The HQ view concurs with that of the OT and that of Jesus. No "original sin".
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In the OT God says in Ezekiel 18
"The soul that sinneth, IT shall die" and
"The son SHALL NOT bear the iniquity of the father"
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People are born sinless. they're NOT born with the "original sin". This is what Jesus said about children “forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven” Mathew 19:14
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HQ 6:164 Say: "Shall I take for (my) Lord other than God, when He is the Lord of all things (that exist)? Every soul gathers (the consequences of its bad deeds) against none but itself: no bearer of burdens (sins) can bear the burdens (sins) of another. Your goal in the end is towards God"
by borasalama on June 17th, 2009
Ok so what do you think the sacrifice system of the Torah was about?
What do you believe Isaiah was talking about?
Isa 53:5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
What do you believe Jesus's mission was?
by kitten on June 17th, 2009
Sacrifice was for the sins THEY had committed. It served as a penalty and a sign of submission to the Law. Paul saw these sacrifices and other burdensome demands of the Torah, such as circumcission, as huge barriers in his determined bid to take Jesus to the Gentiles. But how to abolish the Law? He came up with "we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ ONCE FOR ALL" and now "there is no more offering for sin" and he used a clever argument against sin sacrifices, saying, "in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year" Hebrews 10:10,18,3
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His mission was
- to gather the lost sheep. "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matthew 15:24
- to tighten the Law by shifting the focus from its letter to its spirit, for example, whereas before adultery started with the act, now it started with the look. Matthew 5
- to "preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: FOR THEREFORE AM I SENT" Luke 4:43
by borasalama on June 18th, 2009
So are you saying that the submission to the law covers sin?
If not what does?
I didn't get your answer for 'What do you believe Isaiah was talking about in Isa 53:5?'
As far as Jesus's mission was concerned you see it as being only gathering the lost sheep of Israel and tightening the law (make it more stringent?) by including obeying the spirit of the law.
by kitten on June 18th, 2009
not exactly sure what your first two questions are after. If you clarify I'll answer. I've already said sacrifice was supposed to be in atonement for sins committed.
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It's supposed to be Luke who saw Jesus in Isaiah 53. The Jews do not see it being about Jesus, and being a Jew, neither did Jesus.
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..and preaching the kingdom of God. Note that I've stted what Jesus himself said about his mission.
by borasalama on June 18th, 2009
In my first question I'm trying to ask what pays for our sins?
by your answer "Sacrifice was for the sins THEY had committed. It served as a penalty and a sign of submission to the Law. " Are you saying that a penalty and submission pays for them?
Isa 53:5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. While I get that this may not refer to Jesus, it still says something is bruised for our iniquities and something's stripes heals us. So what does that mean?
I didn't realize you were Jewish up to now I thought you were Muslim and a follower of Jesus.
by kitten on June 18th, 2009
As far as Jesus's mission I was repeating what I thought you meant to make sure I understood. So is the following what you believe?
As far as Jesus's mission was concerned you see it as being only gathering the lost sheep of Israel and tightening the law (make it more stringent?) by including obeying the spirit of the law.
by kitten on June 18th, 2009
if you say "hey, look the law says I've to offer sin sacrifice" and you offer sin sacrifice for the sins you've committed then it means
a- you've believed what the law says and you've submitted to it.
b- by making the sacrifice you'd be expecting the remission of your sins in exchage (sin meaning error)
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phrases like "was] bruisED" and "ARE healed" written about 600 years before Jesus are indicative that they do not refer to the future.
The Jews regard the verses as applying to their people, their nation.
I'm intrigued by what made you "realize you were Jewish"??
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As for the mission of Jesus, it's only fair to let the great man speak for himself, which is what I did by quoting him. Well, one assumes he knew best what his mission was, and not those who presume to tell us what his mission was.
by borasalama on June 19th, 2009
Thanks, even though I wanted to understand your perspective fuller I will respect your commitment to stick to the text.
I understand the Jewish position of Isaiah but was asking specify what you though these words were referring to. I'm not Jewish. Looking back I think I misread you and though you said you were.
Your argument that Jesus believed the Isa test in the same way as the Jews because he was Jewish is interesting. Do you believe Jesus agreed with the religious philosophy of his day?
by kitten on June 19th, 2009
Hi kitten, I can attend to your comments now that I'm back.
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Did Jesus agree with the religious philosophy of his day? Well, the religious philosophy of his day was governed by the Torah, the Law. As for did Jesus agree with it - again, let the man speak for himself. He openly declares in Matthew 5:17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil”
by borasalama on July 2nd, 2009
I agree that Jesus up held the Torah. Whether or not he interpreted the prophets the same as other Rabbis is questionable? Do you see Israel as the suffering servant illustrated in Isa 53?
by kitten on July 2nd, 2009
Yes, the Rabbis had become devious, they were making sure they could not be faulted on the letter of the law while riding roughshod on its spirit. They started lording it over the people instead of humbly serving them. Jesus brought the focus back onto the spirit of the law with his sermon on the mount.
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Muslims don't take a position on each verse of the Bible. However, the general principle is that if an interpretation veers towards injustice of any kind than the Muslim is likely to reject that interpretation. That includes injustice to the sovereignty of God, any dilution of His pefect oneness. God is perfectly just and He does not approve of any injustice.
by borasalama on July 3rd, 2009
Going back to Isa 53 in verse 5 the verbs are particles and the was is inserted by the translator. Most likely because in verse 4 the first three verbs are completed verbs. So who or what could have fulfilled Isa 53:3-5
Isa 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, [there is] no beauty that we should desire him.
Isa 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were [our] faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
by kitten on July 3rd, 2009
Is there any interpretation that makes Isa 53:6 fair?
Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
by kitten on July 3rd, 2009
All I can see is sentences talking about events in the past. If you are reading something of the future into it, then it is like tarot or astrology or seeing patterns and shapes in a blob of ink. People can see what they want to see. Anyway, whatever interpretation they come up with, a Muslim would accept it or rejet it accoring to the principle I explaine earlier.
by borasalama on July 4th, 2009
So what past events to you believe it is talking about?
by kitten on July 6th, 2009
The verses you've quoted don't tell me what is being talked about. The passage begins with "For he shall grow up before him..." I do not even know, without finding out more, who the "he" and the "him" are.
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There is much in the Bible that Muslims are familiar with and accept, but there is a lot of detail we have not gone into. We will listen to people's interpretations of these. However, if an interpretation requires the approval of injustice then the Muslim will immediately reject that interpretation. That includes any injustice to the sovereignty and oneness of God and approval of any wickedness, evil or immorality.
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So, for example, if anyone puts an INTERPRETATION on a passage to say 'God is a family of two or three' or 'He killed an innocent to spare sinners', a Muslim will point to passages which require NO interpretation and which STATE PLAINLY that God is ONE and ONLY, that it is only the soul that sinneth that dies and anyway God forgives all genuinely repenting sinners.
by borasalama on July 7th, 2009
Thanks for helping me understand your perspective. I've decided to translate this part of the chapter this weekend being careful with the pronouns and including multiple possibilities.
I agree that any interpretation needs to be consistent with God being one. I'm not sure of how the second requirement of injustice will pan out but if your willing to read it we'll see.
by kitten on July 8th, 2009