by Ender is back.. And slightly confused. on September 30th, 2007

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If I'm trying to get a job as a programmer, what programming languages should I be fairly proficient in? I'm decent in C++ and beginning to learn LISP, but should I also learn PHP and MySQL?

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by Koz - Passion Perseverance Patience on September 30th, 2007
It would depend on what field you are going in. C++ would be sufficient for most jobs. LISP would be for scientific research and AI, PHP and MySQL if you wanted to do Internet related jobs as well as PERL and maybe XML. Game companies use programmers who are sufficient in C and assembly. The best advice would be to check out the companies that you want to work for that have openings for programmers or software engineers and see what the requirements are.
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by Magenta on September 30th, 2007
What do you want to do specificaly?

There is no one job called "programmer". There are lots of different programmers.

You need PHP, JSP, and/or ASP.NET if you plan on developing web-based applications. If you plan on writing desktop applications they won't help you.

C++ is the main programming language for desktop applications, but many companies have a large financial investment in internally developed applications created in other languages, like Microsoft Visual Basic or even Delphi (Pascal).

If your focus is Microsoft, I'd recommend C#. It's easier and more elegant than C++, and C# is the primary language for Vista development.

Java is another option- many companies focus on Java development.

There are also assorted industry-specific rapid development tools. I worked in training development, so we used Authorware, ToolBook, and a few others.

Databases are used in all kinds of applications, so you need to learn some SQL, but database specialists spend their whole careers just within Oracle or SQL Server, creating database structures, stored queries, etc without ever using any external programming languages at all.

You need to pick a specialization first!
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- Software, non-web-based, using Object-Oriented languages, cross-platform (Mac and PC), either Database, Game, or Financial Software programming..
  
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  by Ender is back.. And slightly confused. on September 30th, 2007
- If you want Mac/PC cross-platform, Java is an obvious choice, plus another option is C++ with TrollTech:
  http://trolltech.com/
  For 2D cross-platform gaming Flash is simple and versitle.
  For 3D, I've been learning Microsoft XNA within C#. While it is only for Windows and XBox 360, the games can run on Mac with Parallels.
  Right now, there are no jobs for XNA, but hopefully that will change. Most gaming jobs are in specific engines (like Unreal) or in C++ with DirectX.
  For true cross-platform 3D, you have to learn OpenGL, usually within C++.
  
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by Barrat per negòci on September 30th, 2007
yes, it's for the best and JavaScript.
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by -O-uknow on September 30th, 2007
Sounds good. Have they started programming "pig latin"? Why dontchay programmay DOS? ;)
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by nunya on December 18th, 2007
You want a job? Learn .NET - I have been programming in VB.NET and C# since the beta in 2001. I have over 5 years experience in it now and my resume speaks for itself. Whenever I turn it on, the calls and emails start flooding in, the market is HOT for it right now and I don't see that ending soon with all the legacy apps being ported over. Trust me, learn C# or VB.NET (and get some time in the ASP.NET world (either language) as well, as there are many people porting their apps to a web based platform.
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by .avallach on September 30th, 2007
Totally depends on what type of job you're looking for. Software company where I used to work only wanted people who were C++ experts. If you're looking for something more webbish, you'll need PHP ASP etc.
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  by Ender is back.. And slightly confused. on September 30th, 2007
- Depends on the hiring manager. I don't have a degree myself and barely look at the education part of a resume, only experience. People with higher degrees tend to look for more education.
  
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