wasnt it Paul who said we are to marry one husband or one wife. I believe it was acceptable in the old testament, for the purpose of populating the earth. I think having more than one wife would be looked upon as greed.
multiple wives is not against the law of yah(god).a man can have as many wives as he wishes,its that simple.the europeans are the only people who dont practice polygomy.this comes from the ancient greeks and romans who were open homosexuals and child molesters.the european culture is very homosexual.they allow pediphilia and homosexuality but forbid a man to take righteously take multiple wives.the bible wasnt written by europeans,who hated polygamy,it was written by hebrews who cherished polygamy.
It was never forbidden. The arguments against polygamy are very weak in my opinion. It sounds like a bunch of people stuck in a Victorian time warp attempting to put words in God's mouth about what he meant. When God told Adam to bond with Eve and be one flesh, Eve was the only one. If Eve had a sister, maybe God would have said be one with her too. Didn't Jesus tell his 12 apostles to be "one" as "I and the Father are one"? So, you can be one with more then one person. It was never forbidden and any attempts to instill 19th century morals are invalid. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Great men of God had multiple wives, men who walked and talked with God. If it was so bad, why didn't God tell them to stop?
Here is the true answer; Yes it is alright to have many wives even 700 of them or more. As I have studied the bible also. It is really all about what power do you want over someone else. Is man still so blind as to still want to make laws agaisnt other mens beliefs? Whether or not you think it is O.K., you may have an opinion but don't break up a mans family of twenty children and eight wives and destroy them in the legal system. They are happy as they are why can't you be happy as you are? What part of the ten commandments don't you understand? LOVE thy neighbor as yopurself! stop dwelling on what you think, and forcing others to beleive like you, stop messing with free will. you are starting something you will regret when you meet your maker.
Genesis 16:1-4 Now Sarai Abram's wife bare him no children: and she had an handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar. And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai. And Sarai ... gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived.
Genesis 25:6 But unto the sons of the concubines, which Abraham had....
Genesis 26:34 Esau ... took to wife Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Bashemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite.
Genesis 31:17 Then Jacob rose up, and set ... his wives upon camels.
Exodus 21:10 If he take him another wife....
Deuteronomy 21:15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated....
Judges 8:30 And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives.
1 Samuel 1:1-2 Elkanah ... had two wives; the name of the one was Hannah, and the name of the other Peninnah.
2 Samuel 12:7-8 Thus saith the LORD God of Israel ... I gave thee ... thy master's wives....
1 Kings 11:2-3 Solomon ... had seven hundred wives ... and three hundred concubines.
1 Chronicles 4:5 And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah.
2 Chronicles 11:21 Rehoboam ... took eighteen wives, and threescore concubines.
2 Chronicles 13:21 But Abijah waxed mighty, and married fourteen wives....
2 Chronicles 24:3 Jehoiada took for him two wives....
Mt.25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
iwnit1,
You have given the best supporting evidence on polygamy that I have ever seen. The thing that most of the Western World has been in denial of is that the cultures in the continent of Africa has been more in tune with the ways of God in their practices of Biblical laws, out of love for Yahwah or their disobedience in the practices of Yahwah's laws , out of rebellion/disobediance. They either obey the laws of Yahwah or disobey them.
The westerners have had the mentality that they are superior , in many philosophies and doctrines, but fail to understand that the movement of Yahwah (God) originated in the African Continent, mainly the Middle Eastern countries. We have to change the state of denial which is prevelant in the other parts of the world, from the African continent. There has been social evolution which caused pollution of the Word and the laws of Yahwah(God). The Western world tried to embrace a new religion (Christianity) Jesus did not start a new religion- He came to fulfill the sacraficial part of the salvation plan of God, which was illuded to in the Passover feast, when the blood of the spotless lamb was placed over the doors of all of the Hebrew dwellings, in Egypt, before the exodus.
Jesus studied and practiced all of the Torah, because he is the Torah. How can "Christians" separate or divorce themselves from the law/Torah, which was given to moses from God for His people to be governed by. If Christians call themselves God's people, shouldn't that include everyone who believe upon the name of Yahwah and His only begotten son, Yeshua(which means Yahwah saves His people, Yahwah is salvation)?
We should not pick and choose what we will accept as the word of God, if the Torah/Bible is what we use as our governing faction of the life we have on this earth , until Jesus(Yeshua) returns for His believers, then quit tearing it down. Embrace every word with the revelation from The Holy Spirit of God. (Ruach HaKodesh!
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Yes, being married one man to one woman and hold that together faithfully for a lifetime is the right way Jesus is talking about it is meant to be from the beginning. However, If I walk into just about any church that claims to be Christian nowadays. Theres lots of divorced people and remarried people.So I would hope I would shy away from telling people that Christians do not marry more than one person and have returned to the Plan of God. I would question my honesty. The way I resolve the issue not justify it. Is remembering there are people like Abraham(pressured into polygamy by his own wife, mistake he made was listening to her)and Jacob who was tricked into polygamy.Evidence of True Christianity being practiced is both celibacy and then monogamy and there may even be periods of time within the monogamist marriage that celibacy is practiced for a while also. God forgives sins so if someone has been married and divorced several times he or she can still be a Christian. However, If someone claims something like I've been a Christian now for 7 years . But, in that time he or she has married and divorced. I'm not saying that they cant be Christian. But I am saying there is absolute proof they are having troubles in their Walk with God and their advice is probalby not worth much.Anytime you encounter a Pastor whos been married and divorced several times in his life time thats a True warning sign no matter how wonderful he or she may seem. Jesus never married in the physical sense i.e. he never had a biological wife. Because he has Gods ability fully to not need it. Some People like Paul the Apostle are blessed with no sex drive at all.Some people claim that Paul the Apostle was gay as justification for their being gay and Christian. It is possible to be gay and Christain and the evidence of that is that they are not practicing homosexual sex but are either celibate or married faithfully to the opposite sex. I have met many gay Christians who are able to do this. So I know its possible. Hope this answer helps answer your question even though your question is very old and you may not be around any more
Come on man... You say Jacob was tricked into polygamy? Read Genesis Chapter 30. Here is the breakdown of what Jacob did after he marries Leah and Rachael. If he had more than one wife just because he was tricked then he certainly wouldn't have continued marrying more women. Jacob marries Bilhah and she bears Dan and Naphtali—He marries Zilpah and she bears Gad and Asher—Leah bears Issachar and Zebulun and a daughter, Dinah—Then Rachel conceives and bears Joseph—Jacob works for Laban for wages of cattle and sheep.
There is no strict prohibition of polygamy, but it is definitely not seen as the ideal marriage. In Genesis 2: 24, straight after the creation of woman, we are told
24For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
Jesus, backs this up in the New Testament, by quoting this verse as the ideal: one man, one woman. (Mark 10. this was in the context of discussing divorce which Jesus also said was not God's ideal or plan)
Polygamy is only seen after the Fall (Rebellion) of humans against God in the Garden of Eden. In Genesis 4, after the first murder is spoken of, Adam's descendant, Lamech, marries twice.
In the Old Testament, yes, Jacob was polygamous, as were the kings (Abraham technically was too, because he had a concubine, Hagar) but these marriages are generally portrayed as full of conflict.
In the New Testament, Jesus states the ideal of God, and in 1 Timothy 3, Paul gets the elders of the church to set the example by stressing: one wife only.
That is why, to this day, Christians do not marry more than one woman. We have returned to the plan of God.
You have some good points there. I think that the increasing divorce rate amongst Christians is, indeed, a sign of weaker commitment to the Lord and His commands.
You are of course intitled to your own opinion. I am required to respect your interpretation. You realize though we dont have to go along with each other just respect
Yes, now you are zeroing in. On what I interept Jesus as meaning when he said from the beginning it was not so. In his answer to the the Pharisee & Teachers of the law about Marriage & divorce. i.e. as you know animals are symbolic of people in the Bible. Jesus said go tell Herod that fox etc.When you watch the nature shows on cable tv you remember some animals mate for life.Most dont seem to.Success at marrying one person for a lifetime is a biggy for me in showing a better quality of ones spiritual relationship with God.The vast majority of people I meet who claim to be Christian. Im not saying they arnt. But lots of them have been divorced & remarried over their lifetimes. I've met couples who arnt believers but are successfully married for life. Watch out the other side has an imitation of almost everything of God.
Thanks for chatting.
As you know the devil doesnt run around in the open in a red suit at half time at a live tv football game and say run run run I'm the devil. Genesis says hes more subtle than that.For instance people who arnt Christians. I think they really havent been challenged much in life as Christians are.Or if challenged greatly have reached a position of knowing how to get real comfortable in complacency. The unbeliever gets trials too but I think they are very watered down trials.Because both satan & God are taking it easy on them. If your're a parent you want your kids to be strong & grow & be independent & yet be humble enough to observe & listen to our years of experience especially our mistakes. So they can learn more.
No ! The Bible does not specifically forbid polygamy.
Why to people choose to embrace some parts of the Torah and not others. Yeshua said that not one dot or tiddle will be changed or destroyed until the end of days when the earth and the heavens pass away. If Hashem allowed Polygamy it is not a sin. He is the same,yesterday, today and forever. Man changed the laws, not The Lord. Monogamy was practiced in countries where dynasties were not shared with many.
It was all about power and money. The Romans, Greeks, and other European powers did not want to share the inheritence with many wives and children. Those who practiced Polygamy , according to the stipulations of the Torah , did not commit adultry. Those who just took extra wives without obeying the Torah were sinning.
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