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by funnybunny06 on November 29th, 2005

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Does it make me a "slut" if I have only had sex with two guys, and done things with five including those two guys, and I'm 14 years old?

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  • by Anonymous on January 3rd, 2006

    Anonymous

    First of all: "Slut" is a subjective term. Some people will certainly tell you you are, but that is a personal opinion. There's no set definition for the number of people you're allowed to sleep with before you become a "slut", so you need to get that idea out of your head- everyone has different ideas of what is acceptable sexual behaviour, and its your own views on that that matter, not anybody elses. Don't let somebody calling you a slut because they dissaprove of your behaviour hurt your self-worth. Its not their place to judge.
    However, the fact that you're here, asking about it rather than just getting on with it, suggests to me that you are uncomfortable with the situation. Are you really happy about sleeping with all these guys at your age? Does it make you feel happy? Are you really enjoying it or are you doing it to impress, to gain affection, attention, or because you think so little of yourself that you feel like a worthless slut and that you should behave like one? If you were really happy would you even be asking this? It seems to me your hurting yourself by thinking of yourself as a "slut" and behaving in a way that you believe backs up this assertation. The problem isn't whether other people see you as a slut, but that you see it yourself. I honestly think that you should consider talking over your behaviour and perceptions with a qualified counsellor- not because you've slept with too many people, that's nobody's business but your own, but because you seem to be concerned about it. Sex is a wonderful thing, its not something that should damage your self-worth, or make you feel guilty. You should never say Yes OR No for any other reason than because its what YOU want. You need to sort out these issues now before they become even more deeply imbedded.
    I should also enforce what other have said. Please make sure if you do have sex that you know what you're doing with regards contraception. None of us are immune to STD's, and the last thing you need is an unwanted pregnancy.


    EDIT: I'm sorry I feel the need to add thsi, but I feel the need to stand up for the dignity of the original querent. To TheWorm and others: I have no doubt that the majority of fourteen year old's should not be having sex and probably put themselves at a high physical and emotional risk by doing so.

    However, I doubt very much that yelling at this poor girl about how she's still a child who doesn't know her own mind, patronising and talking down to her, or calling her a slut is either going to stop her from having sex or do anything to solve the self-esteem issues she obviously has. If anything this kind of judgemental behaviour will only drive her further into the self-destructive spiral. Most of these answers are serving only to re-inforce the low opinion she has of herself and are frankly completely irresponsible.

    I was under the impression that this section of the site was designed for people to seek advice, not to have moral judgements laid upon them. I am trying to help a troubled and unsure teenager and I hope that my advice has been of some help to her because as far as I can see most of the others who answered this question saw fit only to metaphorically stone her to death.

    EDIT x 2
    If anyone is really desperate to argue this they can email me- or this could end up a very long answer!

    The way you view this question depends on whether you see it as a request for advice, or a request for a moral judgement.

    I see nothing in my answer that encourages or condones underage sex. I don't condone parents letting teenagers run wild- more that they should learn to talk and connect with teenagers in a way that will encourage them to open up and discuss their relationships and consider genuine advice from people who aren't afraid to admit they've been there. Not lay down the law so full on that they feel the need to keep secrets and engage in sexual activity with no parental guidance whatsoever.

    I think its an excelent idea to encourage people to wait until they are older. But if a young girl is ALREADY having sex, she needs advice based on that fact- not simply to be called a slut and treated as a lost cause.

    As far as I could see the querent is engaging in behaviour which is likely to be the result of poor self-esteem and other underlying issues, and rather than condemn her I chose to encourage her to tackle these underlying issues, which hopefully will make her happier in the long run and gain her enough self-respect to engage in more responsible sexual behaviour in future.

    Young people definetely do need to be more responsible about their sexual activities- but calling them names and telling them to wait til they're married cos grown-ups know best isn't going to change anything.

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  • by baldev on January 21st, 2006

    baldev

    No, you're not a slut. You may need to check yourself, but you are not a slut. It is subjective. I don't know what the other people on this site see as "normal", but I'm 17, and by 14 I had lost my virginity. And no, in retrospect, I wasn't ready. But anyway: My advice, after answering is: "Make sure you THINK about what you're doing. You know the consequences, you know the emotional issues. I challenge you to consider your future; not necessarily about STD's or pregancy (these are very important, but it's not what I'm talking about). If/when you find a really good guy who truely cares about you, question how he will(might) feel learning that you weren't his first, and how he'll feel if he happens to think about the other men/guys that have had their way with the one he loves."

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  • by Anonymous on July 23rd, 2006

    Anonymous

    You are not a slut, you are a "slut-puppy". since you are 14.

    Where are your morales? out the window, of course. are you a slut?? ask the guys you have had sex and other unmentionals with. bet they have a really good name for you.

    Don't you realize that you are just a one saturday nite stand? you cannot make yourself "popular" by rolling in the hay with every person that comes down the highway. dogs in heat have better reputations. you are suppose to be a human being, not a piece of meat used for whatever purpose anyone desires.

    Do your parents know?? i only hope you have the wisdom to have your body checked for aids, vd and whatever your lovers carry. not to mention becoming pregnant by an unknown.

    I pity you and your future. yes, slut is the appropriate name. get use to it. you will have it the rest of your life.

    People do not forget.......ever!

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  • by sarajetta on December 6th, 2005

    sarajetta

    No, but I would be careful with STD's. At your age and the number of guys you've "fooled" around does put you at a higher risk of catching a STD (sexually Transmitted Disease). Think of it this way, by the time your 18, how many guys would you have fooled around with or had sex with when your already at 5. Be careful.

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  • by KillYourPets on August 16th, 2006

    KillYourPets

    Yes

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  • by Rory969 on August 7th, 2006

    Rory969

    I completely agree with boredasmustard. If you're worried about what you did, and by the sound of it regret it in fear of being bullied- why the hell did you do it in the first place?
    If you went to our school, it wouldn't be a secret (Well, I guess its not now anyway)- in a matter of days it would be around the school, and you would be known as the school slut.
    Sorry to sound so harsh here, but god why?
    You're 14 for goodness sakes!
    Someone I know in my year did what you did, and has a baby now. At 15 years old. She has to drop out of schools, and she'll be lucky if she ends up working at mcdonalds.
    THINK, GIRL, BEFORE YOU ACT!
    You can screw as many people you like when you're both over sixteen, and/or have your qualifications! Its pointless doing it now.

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  • by cyd-ly on July 7th, 2006

    cyd-ly

    You need to stop, and think. You are not a slut. Your like any teenager. Ready to go. But you need to think about what you are doing. There are many STDs out there and most don't show any symptoms at all, and if you get pregnant then that will be very hard on you. you have to think abotu why you are engaging in these activities and with whom you are doing things with. Boys will pretend to like you to get things from you. Don't feel pressured. just walk away if they are trying to get you to do things you don't want. If you do want to do it then make sure its not just with any guy. Especially ones who will turn around and tell everyone about it.

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  • by VinnyC on June 28th, 2006

    VinnyC

    Give all the rationale you wish, but if you are in this situation at 14, you will probably be pregnant by 17 and a mom of 2 by age 20. You can also write off college.

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  • by Tuckers Mommy on June 17th, 2006

    Tuckers Mommy

    I'm not trying to sound like your mom or anything. So hear me out. When i was 14 years old i did some bad things too. I got involved with an older guy who my parents still love and trust. If they ever found out what we did he could get into a lot of trouble and i'm very sure my parents wouldn't love him so much anymore. I'm almost 16 years old now. And ive only had sex with one guy. But your 14 and you've already had sex with 2 guys. Messing around is not as bad as having sex. You really need to be careful about what you do and if it gets around it could ruin your rep and when you get in high school all the older guys will think your easy and ask you to come to there house to "hang out" when really they want to do you. Then if that gets around no guy will ever date you they will just want you to mess with them.This doesn't make you a slut.. but you need to be careful and slow it down. You will end up hurt or getting in trouble or gettin something that you can't get raid of.. ex, HIV, AIDs.. Need to talk? email me.. jenni200509@yahoo.com

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  • by dblitzen on May 18th, 2006

    dblitzen

    I'm a guy and I don't use the word \"slut\" or the word \"whore\" and I did not allow my children to use those words. Those are terrible words and anyone who uses them should take a thorough self-inventory.

    Having said that (or written it rather), you have no business engaging in any sort of sexual activity at 14. Sex is a wonderful thing--a wonderful ADULT thing. As someone has already suggested you can't drink until you're 21 in most states, vote until you're 18, and in most states you can't even drive until you're 16.

    The list of things minors can't do is long and varied--and for good reason. IN the case of sex, not only do you run the obvious risk of pregnancy and diseases that can prevent pregnancy in the future, you also run the less obvious risk of non-trivial emotional trauma, and cervical cancer later in life.

    Here's what is probably in store for you if you continue your current behavior:

    - Permanent damage to your body caused by a sexually transmitted disease
    - Pregnancy with a child you can't care for which leaves you the option of either giving it up for adoption, abortion, or having a family member raise the child you helped to create
    - Either a jaded attitude that makes sex no longer seem special, or a lifelong sexual addiction that can result in the items I've previously listed

    Have you spoken with your parents about this issue? You need help, and at 14 you should seek it from your parents.

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  • by Shadowstrike on September 12th, 2006

    Shadowstrike

    NO! Your sexuality is your own and your own only! If u like sex THATS GREAT just make sure you know it is safe to have sex with who u r.

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  • by AntigoneRising on September 8th, 2006

    AntigoneRising

    Words like slut, whore, and promiscuous are reserved for use with groups we devalue, primarily females and homosexuals/bisexuals. For this reason, I do not use the words and I do not respect those who do use them.

    The word slut is defined by Merriam-Webster's online dictionary as:

    Main Entry: slut
    Pronunciation: 'sl&t
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English slutte
    1 chiefly British : a slovenly woman
    2 a : a promiscuous woman; especially : PROSTITUTE b : a saucy girl : MINX

    First of all, I do not see sex or sexual activity as bad. So long as it is between two consenting parties (assuming your partners to be of your relative age plus or minus a year or two because of your age), I am not going to make a value judgment on it or you.

    What I am going to say to you is that sex and sexual activity comes along with risk and responsibility. You are special, as is your body. You need to respect yourself, your boundaries, and be ready to equally take care of yourself. HIV and pregnancy aren't the only risks.

    One out of five of the total adolescent and adult population is infected with genital herpes.

    Infection is more common in women (approximately one out of four women) than in men (almost one out of five).

    Male-to-female transmission is more efficient than female-to-male transmission.

    One in five Americans have genital herpes (yet at least 80 percent of those with herpes are unaware they have it).

    About 80 percent of American adults have oral herpes (cold sores).

    An estimated 25 percent of American adults have genital herpes.

    Approximately two-thirds of people who acquire STDs in the United States are younger than 25.1,3

    About one in five people in the United States over age 12 (approximately 45 million individuals) are infected with HSV-2, the virus that causes genital herpes.2

    http://www.herpesonline.org/articles/herpes_statistics.html
    http://www.globalherbalsupplies.com/herpes/stats.html
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/dstd/Stats_Trends/Stats_and_Trends.htm
    http://www.cdc.gov/std/chlamydia2003/default.htm

    Some of the things you can get won't make you pregnant and probably won't kill you, but they are NOT curable. So, you are making decisions you cannot reverse. You need to be very sure that you make the right decisions for your physical health, mental health, and emotional health. Your decisions need to be free of social pressure and come from what you are personally able to handle.

    Sex is an adult decision with adult implications, ramifications, and consequences. While it can be the most beautiful, loving act...it can also be one of the most devastating.

    My guess (and this is based upon your one line question), is that if you are second-guessing yourself, you need to step back and make sure you are ready for this - and that includes ready for it morally within your moral system. If it is something you believe is wrong, you are going to subject yourself to some serious emotional pain.

    Good luck...know yourself...protect yourself...and BE SAFE.

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  • by Beege69 on August 29th, 2006

    Beege69

    Sex is a powerful thing. Being fourteen is confusing enough without adding sex to the mix. Lots of older people have difficulty with sex and they have more experience. Take it slower and try to understand what you are doing, it can be beautiful and gratifying but it can become destructive.

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  • by Anonymous on August 12th, 2006

    Anonymous

    yup

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  • by xabbiex on July 29th, 2006

    xabbiex

    im in a very simalar situation and im 14 ive even been called a slut . if you dont think theese guy were a bad idea to do this with and regretting it u might want to think twice before it happens again. are you branding urself a slut because you know u shudnt have done theese things?,dont feel like you have 2 sometimes you may feel presured into doing things just to please a boy wich isnt right.take things slow and have sex with someone you really love and who loves you back xxxx

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  • by Mudville9 on January 17th, 2006

    Mudville9

    14, stop now, whatever you doing.
    Your boy freinds will treat you like a slut and wosrt of all if you're not careful you will be a baby having a baby. Than everyone loses.

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  • by adviceneeded on December 25th, 2005

    adviceneeded

    Why should you even be having sex at 14 i didn't even know what it was at 14 then again i matured very late at everything....my person opinion is just stop having sex there are lots of things out there that you can catch and your still a child and you dont need those kind of issues in your life and i'm not telling you this so you will rebel but be very careful and carry condoms but since your not 18 to buy them got to plan parenthood and they will help

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  • by natalienicolenc on October 9th, 2006

    natalienicolenc

    Labels are overrated!!!People that label others have low self esteem and don't have a life. Words are only a way to communicate not a way of life!

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  • by va_freaking_nessa on October 2nd, 2006

    va_freaking_nessa

    Slut is a pejorative term for a person (usually female) who is more sexually promiscuous than is deemed socially acceptable. The term has traditionally been applied to women and is generally used as an insult or offensive term of disparagement.

    Generally, a slut has no self respect for herself.

    But still, 14 is a very young age to be engaging in such things; many people will disaprove of it.

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  • by TanaRatt on May 24th, 2006

    TanaRatt

    I can sit here and say the polite thing... No you are not a slut you are just exploring and you need to be more careful, but the fact of the matter is if i were in school with you i would think you were a slut - every girl would and would only like you to your face - the boys would know you as an easy piece and you would still search and crave their negative attention even though it didn't fulfill your emotioal needs. the only advice that i can think of as helpfull is to stop what you are doing and go to church!!!

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  • by YeahImSoEastSide on December 29th, 2005

    YeahImSoEastSide

    First of all, you should definitely not be having sex at the age of fourteen.You're still devoloping and sex is technically not supposed to even exist until marriage, but you're philosophy is different from mine I guess. Let me put it this way: Other people most likely think that of you because you're young and chances are, you didn't love both of them. As for doing "other things" with these two and a different three, were you involved in a serious relationship with any of them? If you weren't, you told people about it, and if I went to your school, I'd probably see your name somewhere written on a bathroom wall followed by your phone number and "Call her to have some fun!!"

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  • by Anonymous on October 12th, 2006

    Anonymous

    When you say you have done "things with five people" what do you mean? Kissing? Fingering? Oral sex? Anal Sex? 69? There are a lot of "things" you could have done. And oral sex and anal sex is sex, so honey is your sex list number 2 or 5? Well ask yourself this, be honest. If you had a 14 year old, would you want her screwing? I hope not! I am sure you have been told the possiblites of STDs and pregnancy so much it probably doesn't mean a thing anymore. But that is not going to happen to you anyway! No that kind of thing happens to other people! WRONG! Most kids your age, and that is what you are a kid, don't think anything bad is going to happen to them! That is why 14 year olds are screwing, drinking, and getting high. I have a friend who lost her virgnity at 15, and when she talks about it, she doesn't seem proud. And honey, at your age no 14 year old boy is concerned with your pleasure. They probably climaxed, pulled it out and left your ass. You know he did. Yeah you are supposed to climax too. Shocker huh? I have one more question. Do you have stuffed animals on your bed. Still get excited when you see a commercial for Disney World? Yeah I thought so. no matter if you call yourself a slut or not, Herpes itch, babies cry, and aids kill.

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  • by Van_Houten on October 11th, 2006

    Van_Houten

    "Slut" is just a label. If you enjoy sex, you enjoy it. No one can judge you for that.

    As far as being only 14 goes, just be careful. Make your male partners use condoms to prevent STDs and pregnancy. Believe me, neither of those are something you want at your age. They'll both ruin your life if you're not careful.

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  • by Tuckers Mommy on September 28th, 2006

    Tuckers Mommy

    I'm honestly sick of seeing crappy answers on here. This question really doesn't have an answer. Its more opion on what you think. Some people dont care.. others do. Some think she's a slut. Others dont. The real question she should have asked and thought to herself about is.. "what would my mother think?" " would she be upset or mad at me?" I'll put my own story in here. I'm 16 years old. I've had sex with 4 guys. I was 14 when i lost my virginity.All of the guys i've slept with were 18 or 17. I'm not a whore. its not like i slept with all of those guys at one time.. It was all at differant times. And i was being safe about it. My mom doesn't know. I'm sure she'd be really mad at me if she did know.Which is the reason i stopped. I thought to myself what might or could happen to me. I scared myself. I told myself i was going to wait till i found i guy i really liked.. and was with for awhile.

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  • by Anonymous on September 10th, 2006

    Anonymous

    Of course it does. Slutty is as slutty does. But there is nothing wrong with being a slut if you are OK with it yourself. Stay fit, stay clean, improve your mind, help others, respect people and you will be a slut worth knowing.

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  • by etzlersucks on August 16th, 2006

    etzlersucks

    Yes... slut.

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  • by VolleyGirlChels on August 11th, 2006

    VolleyGirlChels

    I've been called a slut and I'm a virgin. No lie. But I think it's wrong that you are that age with that expirience.

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  • by Louie91 on August 10th, 2006

    Louie91

    I am also 14 and no you aren't a slut. I haven't had sex but I have been intimate in other ways with a few guys also but that doesn't mean that I'm a slut either! If you were comfortable doing those things then it's really up to you and it is also up to you to make the decision of whether you think you're a 'slut' or not.

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  • by Anonymous on August 5th, 2006

    Anonymous

    I personally think you are a slut and have no idea why you are having sex when you are only in middle school or a freshman or you have un caring parents or this is one of people's stupid practical jokes sex is not about laghs it's about comitment you do it or you don't mamma raised no fool i doubt that you would be having sex with 5 guys when you where just 10 years old in 5 th grade if it is a joke get a life or if it's real stop foolin around you're too young you can even drive yet what you are doing is so far beyond wrong. I think you should tell your parents what you are doing you need cycological help. >:(

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  • by Anonymous on June 11th, 2006

    Anonymous

    Well, i wouldnt go straight to "slut", but... I definately think u need to slow down, because you are only fourteen years old. Just think keeping this rate, imagine how many that you will sleep with by the time u are 18.

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  • by clayton bateman on January 30th, 2006

    clayton bateman

    Sorry for the hard Truth of this , but the fact of the matter is the only thing of valus that you had and or have(the difference being how you conduct yourself in mind) is your virtue. In this socity your only tradable goods is the amount of trust you can acrue; that being said it is measured by how often you have deluded yourself. Some man must now choose you out of all the others...... Why? He has already possessed your mind, validated by your body. A man will want what he can not have. Unless he can not handle what he already has. Do you really think you can do that to a man? By all means give as much away as you can; it can only hurt you( in ways can't even understand now.). best thing to do is keep you legs closed and act like the little girl you are or, in this world, you will get F#$K%D. I am not even tring to hurt your self image, just hoping to bring it in to focus.

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  • by likeabledevil on October 5th, 2006

    likeabledevil

    how silly you are. You are worried about what people around you think of you.

    You already know the answer....if you don't, why are you asking the question??

    None of the replies will be able to absolve you and I'll bet you get plenty of attention from the boys.....you will be a talking point for them as to whom is next.

    Best you modify your behaviour if you are worried about your reputation. Reputation is something we all have one shot at. If we screw up, it is difficult to repair....people always remember. I am 37....to this day in conversations about school, most people always remember others by reputation!! I don't say it's right......it just is.

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  • by Ezzy on September 29th, 2006

    Ezzy

    not exactly. but don't grow up too fast, kids your age arn't ready for sex yet. it's not a smart thing to do....considering what could happen...aids....you could get pregnant and have a kid at fourteen or have to live with getting a abortion...it's not worth it that soon

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  • by heartbroken285 on September 14th, 2006

    heartbroken285

    It dosent make you a slut it just simply shows that you have no self love or self controll.

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  • by Kgazos on January 25th, 2006

    Kgazos

    This is misleading and as a 14yr old you must realise that their are good and bad choices. Please make the right ones!

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  • by wthing8 on October 9th, 2008

    wthing8

    nope
    but dont go broadcasting it!

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  • by Louie91 on November 15th, 2006

    Louie91

    First of all ignore any rude comments that are on this page! I am 15 years old and the position your in is a natural thought to go through any 'active' teenagers mind. You are not a slut unless you convince yourself your a slut, no one is a 'slut' in my point, everyone has different values. Some people wouldn't dream of sex or affection until they are much more mature and others like you and I are free to experiences. I think if those guys were people you didn't know before you were with them or if you didn't know of their personal hygiene then that is probably something to consider in the future. But no, you aren't a slut, you're a human being.

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  • by ononymuso on November 7th, 2006

    ononymuso

    yes you are a slut.

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  • by RFlagg on September 23rd, 2006

    RFlagg

    Being a slut is all in how you think of you're self. You should realy try to improve you're self view for you're own good or you could very easily end up pregnant at 17, forced to raise the child on you're own, and quite possibly end up with an STD, any one of wich could completly ruin you're life. And, on a slightly less, important note, if you develope a reputation for being promiscuis, then any men looking for a serious relashionship will likely stay away, and all you'll be able to find is a relasionshionship in wich you you get little to no respect, so in the event that you end up alone with a child, that will also make it very hard to find a companion to help support you.

    I'm just telling you this for you're own good, not to try and shame you or anything, but you should realy try and think of you're self as a better person, and value you're self and you're bodie more highly.

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  • by Berenise on March 1st, 2007

    Berenise

    well im not about to give you a long ass answer...

    as long as you are not asking for money in return then no you are not a lut.

    you are just someone who is not afraid to let go of her sexuality. you are a horny person and there is nothing wrong with that...enjoy your life, sex feels good so i dont blame you for liking it just please make sure you use protection...dont worry about if it feels good to them or not, just put this way: would they be around if u get infected and need help? no then have my fun with them the safe way.

    good luck and dont worry you are alone, i love sex...i just have one partner now, but i had my fun before, if only i could tell you

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  • by Nam1310 on February 28th, 2007

    Nam1310

    I have one question for you, what's the rush?

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  • by texasbluedarter on November 11th, 2006

    texasbluedarter

    YEP!

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  • by allknowing on November 1st, 2006

    allknowing

    Not at all. You have shown that you are able to make your own decisions at a very young age, which I think shows great maturity. Making the decision to have oral sex for example rather than intercourse is a tough one, as you are pleasing your mate rather than yourself, and again shows a wonderful sense of caring. Be proud of who you are and you'll go far.

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  • by Anonymous on March 31st, 2006

    Anonymous

    I lost my virginity at 18 to a girl who had had 6 previous sexual parteners, 5 months later we are still together and love each otehr dearly however I don't know that I will ever get over the fact that she was so much more experienced. I didn't want to fall in love with a girl who slept with me on the first night but maybe thats a bit hypocritical. You are not a slut but think very carefully about how your future boyfreinds will feel when it appears to them that you don't value your body as something special/sacred the way they value it. I can accept that my girlfirend slept with other boyfirends but is the guys that meant nothing to her that hurt the most, obviously after one night I was one of those but we can't choose who we fall in love with.

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  • by andywho on December 31st, 2005

    andywho

    No you are not a "slut'. You are a woman not a "girl" anymore. Congradulations. Being a woman and man carries responsibilties.

    Job, kids, "this sucks"

    Knock yourself out, but do not have children that no one wants.

    Enjoy Life and make a contribution.

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  • by Alexmarr72@gmail.com on February 26th, 2010

    Alexmarr72@gmail.com

    You are so young and should not be having sex but you will do what you wish. It is also very illegal to have a partner older than you. Rethink what your doing before something bad happens. Nothing is more expensive then regret.

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  • by laugh learn live on July 12th, 2009

    laugh learn live

    no i would say not but try not to only have sex have a relationship, but also i would say im a little older than you and i would like to tell you you should stay away from sex at your again. I know its not my place, but alot of my friends have had many scares of becoming pregnant. so get on the pill if you have sex and use condoms.

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  • by anonymous on March 22nd, 2010

    anonymous

    I think Clerks best explained that situation when Dante says to his girlfriend like:
    "My only problem with you having oral sex with 36 other guys is when I kiss you I can taste 35 other guys."

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  • by Wheels7 on November 13th, 2006

    Wheels7

    No it just makes me wish I knew you

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  • by avalanche7625 on November 22nd, 2010

    avalanche7625

    ONLY those two guys uve had sex with and then sexual things with five in total... Yes total slut especially cuz ur only 14.

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