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by Djinn on September 20th, 2009
Selected by the asker, Seraphim Shinobi. (What's this?)
I am very sadden to see that the theories of Qi have not been transmitted well to many of you by your Sifu.
Please let me clear some things.
1. Qi or Chi is the same one is Wade Giles the other is Pinyin. However Ki is not the same it is a different theory from a different country.
2. A part of Qi can be measured via bio-electric feedback but this is only the result of Qi. The instrument to see Qi in motion does not yet exist.
3. Reikei has nothing to do with the Chinese Theory of Qi.
4. Qi is not just energy it is a theory that we use not only in Martial arts but in Chinese culture. It is very insulting to say Qi is energy, much like saying water and acid are the same because the look and behave the same.
Qi is not something that needs to proven to you. Do you have consciousness? Prove it, point to the source of your awareness. Measure it on a scientific device? You can not. You can measure brain activity, heart beat, respiration but none of these things are your consciousness, the thing that makes you self aware yet you know that it exists.
Qi is both the shape and application of Tao. Qi can be positive (Yang) negative (Yin) neutral (Wuji) or a mix of positive and negative at the same time (Taiji). Qi is the force that condones Ching via Te. This may confuse you if you are not Chinese as it is a Chinese theory after all but what this means is this; The Tao is the soure of all things, Te is the physical manifestation of the Tao, Ching is the changing of those manifestations based on time, perception etc... Qi is the force that facilitates the change.
So then why would a martial artist study and cultivate Qi? Because just as force is the rate at which mass changes position is accelerates (F=MA) so to are there ways to control the direction and shape of impact not just the force, allowing for greater efficiency in combat.
But as Qi is related to how all things change it has limitless application outside of combat as well.
Understand that I have touched lightly on a very in-depth theory but I hope it helps you to understand that Qi is a Chinese theory based and rooted in Chinese culture and was used before Martial Arts and must be understood as such.
by themyelinsheath on January 18th, 2009
Chi is just another load of mystical crap. There is no evidence of it. There has never been any demonstration of it that hasn't been debunked. It's the stuff of usless traditional martial arts myth.
by Langenschwert on September 6th, 2007
I don't necessarily believe in Chi. When the Amazing Randi (a prominent skeptic) dishes out his cash, then I might be convinced. Even if there is such a thing, it's not going to help you much in a fight. To quote my teacher: "We don't need Ki, we have physics". :)
by iwnit on July 29th, 2009
It is not something that you have to believe or not, in my opinion. It is rather something that you can experience. I don't think they make a lot of scientific experiments about it, though.
by MrVampire on July 29th, 2009
Chi/Qi can be mesured with boelectric sensors. The bioelectric field of a person doing Qi excercises has been measured at significantly higer strengths than when the subject is resting or walking.
by demystiPHI on January 15th, 2009
Chi Qi Ki Prana Ether orgone energy zeropoint etc. It's simple. Substance is all made of energy. This is what "chi" is; the energy.
Stop complicating this intellectually and realise that eastern societies have experienced this energy. Their intention was never to put it under a microscope.
The feeling of the kinetic flow of energy in martial arts and the world can be reduced to cold equations and seem very mechanical. If you need help becoming more aware of the world you exist in, and how your not living machine, but rather a very organic and dynamic system, your first step would be to stop being ignorant and see that this concept is beyond intellectuality.
Here is an exercise: Play with a ouija board, use dowsing rods, or do some automatic writing.
That'll wake you right up. You can feel the energy with these tools. Then, use the same sensitivity you've developed and learn how you can move the energy with Tai Qi and Qi-Gong. All of these tools will help you experience that feeling and allow you to move qi or ki or chi...whatever.
But, be aware, that energy has consciousness, and just like Santa Claus, you are always being watched. I hope you've been a good child.
by Carwash on March 25th, 2008
I'm puzzled by the responses that say Chi/Qi/Ki (Chi from now on) isn't explainable by science.
The development of oriental medicine, philosophy and martial arts are a different culture's way of describing the same things as western science. We all live in the world and act upon it, and different cultures develop different ways of explaining what's happening. Chi, in all its forms, stems from that different way of understanding what's happening.
Since this is a martial arts category, I'll say the following: Whether or not you believe in Chi, it is a useful concept. I have a strong science background, and firmly support the physics of what martial artists do, but what's important for our own practice is to make sure our subconscious and our instincts understand it. If your mind works in a such a way that it understands descriptions given in terms of Chi, and you can act upon them, then please do so. It's a learning tool, and part of the way we can communicate the shared experiences of what we do.
Be wary of those people that try to beef up Chi in terms of science. It will fail, they are different paradigms. Chi as some undefined independent form of "energy" isn't real. Chi as "feeling like energy" is an experience, and the mental model we can use to train.
by Takei-Shihan on August 4th, 2007
... not only do I believe it, I teach methods to control and develop it.
http://www.healing-tao.co.uk/ ... here is a link to an amazing author and one of my instructors ... check out "Awaken Healing Light of the Tao" in the catalog section ... this book has many details for the beginner, it shows how to get started with Chi training and development ...
by Komatsu on November 19th, 2010
I never find any proof Qi-Chi-Ki exist, scientists never find any proof it is real either. I read much of research of accupuncture, it have Qi-Chi-Ki is basis, accupuncture is only placebo scientists find, thus that demonstrate Qi-Chi-Ki not exist. I born Fukushima, Japan, study Japanese karate since age 4, my lover Kyojin's family teach him since he born, he also study many Chinese styles, other Japanese styles, two Korean styles, one Tibetian style, he own several websites, some are of martial arts, he create his own style Go Utsu Bojutsu in japanesse, Wu Da Wu Shu in Mandarin, Eng Da Mou Seut in Cantonese, he speak Japanese, Chinese, English, French, German well know some other languages too. all living creatures have energy, it aannot behave like some tales of Qi-Chi-Ki claim however. Are many frauds of this, George Dillman is recent one.
by shinin1 on September 23rd, 2008
Yes I belive, anyone want to get into quatum physics? I pratice Riki and have done so for over the past 30 years, is it real you bet.
by iLove on March 25th, 2008
Yes I do believe in Chi (in Korean), ki (Japanese) or qi (in Chinese) -- go ahead DR if you want, I don't care.
I also follow many other Chinese and Japanese traditional beliefs, a lot of them which are "supernatural" or can't be explained or proven with science.
by Long Shot on March 20th, 2008
Yes, I use it to prove that you can do great things if you want to practice using you chi. It really is simple and it does work.
by cheesenugget349 on March 20th, 2008
First off, I wouldn't listen to anyone who has answered so far, because they have spelled it Chi, which has started to become an acceptable spelling, but still shows inadequacy. It is spelled Qi. Next, you have to realize that there are a lot of things that happen that can't be explained by regular energy laws, so there must be some outside force or energy (Qi) that exists in the universe.
How would you translate the qing ping jian (tai-chi sword) without the words "chinese" and "double blade"?
by PanikLIji on January 1st, 2009
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Who here believes in Chi? there's so may fakers i'm begining to believe that it doesn't exist, is there any way i can prove to myself that it exists?
by Seraphim Shinobi on August 4th, 2007
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how do u properly do tai chi?do u relax?Tighten ur muscles?What should u be thinking while doing tai chi? Nothing?About ur world? Pls. Help
by SirenNecko1 on November 21st, 2010
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Are there any books on the Wudan sword style, used in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon?
by who cares? who cares? on November 9th, 2005
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If you could travel to China to study martial arts which ones would you choose?
by Mastodon on September 8th, 2008
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Comments
Thank you for clearing some of the fog of doubt of the many skeptics, you explanation is brief enough yet concise enough to give a clue to a beginner ...
by Takei-Shihan on September 21st, 2009
Xie Xie Ni Hing Dai (Thank you brother)
by Djinn on September 22nd, 2009
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by Takei-Shihan on September 22nd, 2009
BRILLIANT ANSWER!
by Seraphim Shinobi on December 3rd, 2010