by AntigoneRising on August 1st, 2007
This question has quite a few problems.
#1 - A burger isn't inherently unkosher. It is the way the animal is slaughtered and processed that makes it kosher or unkosher (with the notable exception of pork/pig). Cheeseburger would be unkosher by strict observance because it brings dairy and meat together at the same time (see comments).
#2 - Judaism isn't a religion focused on the afterlife, as is Christianity. It isn't focused on reward or punishment in the afterlife. It is focused on how to live by Yahweh's law in THIS life. Therefore, whether or not you eat unkosher food isn't about what happens to you after you die, it is about your relationship with Yahweh while you are alive.
#3 - Judaism does not share the same ideas about the afterlife as does Christianity. Sorry, it just doesn't. The concept of the firey pit of Hell is Christian, not Jewish. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/judaism/FAQ/06-Jewish-Thought/section-9.html
So, no, they wouldn't.
by Sunblynd 5.0 on August 1st, 2007
It doesn't matter what you eat, even Kosher meat products are not as Kosher as one may believe. "EARTHLINGS" is a feature length documentary about humanity's absolute dependence on animals (for pets, food, clothing, entertainment, and ... all » scientific research) but also illustrates our complete disrespect for these so-called "non-human providers." The film is narrated by Academy Award nominee Joaquin Phoenix (GLADIATOR) and features music by the critically acclaimed platinum artist Moby.
I included Parts 1,2, and 3. I recommend viewing #1 if your interested in viewing of where your Kosher beef and cheesburgers come from. This is the complete five part version.
by ChabadRabbi on August 2nd, 2007
Judaism really isn't into the "burning in Hell" thing. We believe that after this life, your soul gets exposed to G-d's truth.
If you have lived your life according to His will, that exposure is a very pleasant experience, which people like to call Heaven.
If you have not lived your life according to His will, you undergo a period of burning shame (that's why people associate hell with fire). This is a short-term experience, until you are allowed access to Heaven.
Judaism believes that only the worst of villians (the Hitlers of history) burn in Hell eternally.
by peterpam on August 1st, 2007
Not for doing that but they would probably burn in the stomache!
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Thanks-I didn't know that. Does Judaism have any kind of afterlife concept?
by Emma is sick of ignorant bullies on August 1st, 2007
Yes, read the link. Many people in Western societies view Christianity as an extension of Judaism, but it didn't just extend Judaism, it changed several key theology points. For instance, in Judaism, the devil works FOR Yahweh. There never was a rebellion.
by AntigoneRising on August 1st, 2007
Good answer! I gave you four points but the negative went grey... I keep clicking plus... some glitch, I hope it gave you the +4!
by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on August 1st, 2007
Thanks, Zandalee.
by AntigoneRising on August 1st, 2007
Very good answer!
by Farino on August 2nd, 2007
I have to disagree, unfortunately.
1) A cheeseburger IS inherently unkosher, as the Torah forbids eating meat & milk ("Do not cook a kid in its mother's milk).
BUT, I definitely agree on the point that Judaism isn't Hell-bent : )
by ChabadRabbi on August 2nd, 2007
If meat is inherently unkosher I'll need you to inform my Jewish friends about that. Incidentally, what is the point of kosher hotdogs then, if all meat is banned, isn't "kosher hotdog" an oxymoron? Or specifically prohibiting pork when all meat is banned? And why are you referencing a quote about a "kid" (goat) in a discussion about hamburger (beef)? Are you saying Jews are vegetarian?
by AntigoneRising on August 2nd, 2007
I think chabad meant meat *with* cheese was unkosher... not inherently that meat OR cheese were ... hence the comment about the goat. I am only guessing but that is how I read it. I also think, from my extrapolation of what the user said: laying a piece of cheese on kosher meat is not the same as boiling a kid in it's mother's milk. Cooking meat in milk is unkosher... putting them together afterward wouldn't be... I think. ( My studies in to Judaism were limited)
by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on August 3rd, 2007
I've heard that cooking meat in milk is unkosher (per the quote above), but have not been exposed to the idea that they cannot be consumed together. I see no reason why the cheese cannot be put on the meat after cooking is through. I'll have to look into this further. Apparently Orthodox Judaism sees consuming them together as a problem: http://www.askmoses.com/article.html?h=146&o=276 . Apparently, "milk" has been interpreted to mean anything dairy, and "cook in" has been interpreted to mean "consume simultaneously". Interesting. Another link: http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/practices/kosher.htm I've edited my answer to accomodate this.
by AntigoneRising on August 3rd, 2007
We live and learn I guess.
by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on August 3rd, 2007
@ AntigoneRising: Sorry, I should have clarified. Orthodox Judaism teaches that Jews may not cook/ eat any meat & dairy mixture (milk, cheese etc. etc.) and the "kid" in the verse is merely an example of what's forbidden.
by ChabadRabbi on August 3rd, 2007
Hamburger helper will never be served at a Judaic function/celebration. That's a good thing.
by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on August 3rd, 2007
Hamburger Helper...ewwww...*shudders*
by AntigoneRising on August 3rd, 2007
lol. Exactly!
by Zandalee.Lonely.Lunatic.3yrs-here on August 3rd, 2007