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Because then men wouldn't be able to walk normally
They can :)
No complaints here, I would welcome any women to get em out. But then I am a male.
I agree.
I know that since I live next to the beach within a five mile drive, I would go every day, and read a book so that I can get the occasional look and make sure my leers aren't mistook for anything more than for me taking a break from reading that book.
I'd agree with that... Women of the world unite and stand up for equal rights! :-)
Cuz I wouldn't want to have to hit my husband over and over again for staring :o)
The beach where i sunbathe is totally topless..infact if you dont get your baps out you're frowned upon...its la lay! (silly advert)
They do. I haven't been to a beach for years without there being countless topless women. There are even public beaches where nudity is the norm.
Men don't have boobies.
Besides the fat ones. Hey you know what, now that you mention it that doesn't seem to make sense to me either. Good question.
Actually there is no law against it in some states. I heard a news story the other day about a guy out in Idaho or Iowa can't remember but anyway he was out gardening nude. Police said there was no law against it. Ohio car show, girls showing for beads. Cops said no law against it. They will 'bust' you in Florida though.
Hey! I'll sign that peTITion.
Now, it is against the law but I say...
I support women's rights to go topless wherever they want! No, not for my personal oogling pleasure but for their rights! Really. :)
Actually, I do think it is a silly double standard.
They do in france...
It really depends on the beach, I've been to some beaches that had little or no rules about nudity for anyone regardless of their gender
(Through some sick and cruel twist of fate, these beaches seem to be invariably frequented only by elderly people with chronic psoriasis and roughly %95 body fat, most of whom are already married anyway).
As for those beaches that don't allow women to go topless, it's mostly because of the rather outdated views of objectifying women and thinking of their bodies as something "Dirty" and "Indecent".
Which is prudish, sexist, and outright ridiculous on all fronts
(Personally I don't think *Anyone* should have to hide or be ashamed of their body. Yeah, they're called breasts people, either get used to it or just choose not to look!), but those kinds of outdated, pilgrim-eqsue attitudes do seem to be the norm in much of society today.
Society has sexualized the female anatomy ....
Ah they can I do!
Just another symptom of the puritanical American mentality.
It is considered Public Indecency.
There are topless beaches in South Florida, and their are bunches of nude beaches around the world. You should have no problem if you go to those beaches.
In a lot of places it is acceptable to be topless if your a woman.
well there is beaches like that if you want that then go there but i wouldnt want to expose little children to that thats not teaching them to be respectful of there body i mean if there showing them selves dont you think children would start haveing sex eariler
They can, just not in America. They have to go to somewhere like Spain for that.
The power of the female breast is simply too glorious for ANY person to handle.
Amen to that. Funny, I was wondering why men had nipples! All should be fair in the 21st Century! So take it off and be proud, just don't get arrested!
Probably because when we go to the beach we unveil everything but our sexual organs, and since a man's breasts aren't a sexual organ but a woman's breasts are; women can't go to the beach topless (at most beaches)
I feel that they should...I would have no problem with it.
It is illegal! men think they rule!
You know, I think it should be changed ... men shouldn't be able to go topless either. Sometimes men are as endowed as women in that area and it's not a pretty sight. :-)
My sentiments exactly! Why the hell can't they?
Of course you can do anything you wish if provided you are able to defend for your own safety..big blackbelt women will not feel threaten if some men tries to take advantage of them- but not so for those who are less equiped with muscels and courage..some women can be taken advantaged of.
Because Eve took a bite of the apple!
Uhh, that's like asking why a guy can't walk around having his penis hanging out. Imagine families going to beaches and to have it ruined for the kids as they go "What is that on that girl's chest?" The parents going "Don't look there, son" and so on. The reason is because it is a disturbance to the entire community. A guy taking off his shirt is completely different. Not to mention, it is protection for yourselves from bad guys out there. Don't blame that sexually addicted guy when he stalks and rapes you. If you want to take it off in your house or in your bath, or in your swimming pool go right ahead...
It has nothing to do with discrimination, your just overthinking the whole idea that the world is discriminatory toward women... In fact, this law was put in place for the exact opposite reason then discrimination. If we enforced a law that women are allowed to go topless anywhere, that would be an absurd and sexist motivated law. The people that enforce that law, now they would probably be sexist and start treating women like sexual objects. Why in the world would they pass that law other then to see sexy women? The people who want women to wear tops on the other hand, want that because they just want good for the community and for them. What in the world would the thought process be for us wanting you to have to wear bathing suits to the beach, other then for good? People do things for reasons, they don't just randomly pass laws against women because they feel like it. People do not purposely damage another race or gender unless it somehow benefits them. Whites wanted blacks as slaves before because there were less of them, and because they needed slaves to do things better. Sometimes people slam each other's races because it gets them up the populraity chain. In this case, it makes absolutely no sense to say that this law is sexist. There is absolutely no benefit to us men for passing this law. The only logical explanation is that we wanted to make the community good. This law was put in place soley for the good of women and the community and has no sexist motivation whatsoever. There are small things that guys aren't supposed to do either. Does this mean the people are sexist toward men?
If you want to fight for something, fight for something more important, such as equal pay and other things. But when it comes to women complaining about things like this, it just annoys me greatly... It's like they just want attention and want to be told that they have it worse then men and deserve far better, and to be treated like angels. If you really want equality, fight for something more important. I am for equality for everyone in the world, but this topic has nothing to do with it. This is the most ridiculous question I have ever heard. I like women that stand up for women's EQUALITY, but this is nothing of the such. The fact that you posted this rather then something more important, shows me that you simply want attention.
Now I don't care if you want to go to an adult only beach, where men and women can go and women can take their tops off. You do what you want, so long as you don't affect kids. However, I would not advise it.
And I also read the discussion that it actually makes you look more attractive with bathing suits on... Well, that may be true sometimes, but the point of it is that it doesn't attract attention from the public. Only a pervert guy looking for sex would stare at you with a bathing suit on. Without the bathing suit, everyone would stare, just as women would probably stare at a guy's penis if it was just hanging there.
Well because guys can't handle it and Moms would be putting blind folds on their kids at the beach. Not a cool idea. That's why they have special places for that kind of freedom.
Some women don't look that good topless
I don't see why they shouldn't.
Because a greater percentage of women would rather not display their breasts. Namely, very few women (relatively speaking) have breasts that they feel are firm enough, pretty enough, or large enough to be displayed.
Rounder tits:-)I wouldn't go topless but why not,really??:-))
Yes, you are right. Men should cover up! ;-)
Because for some reason unbeknownst to me, female breasts are considered sexually stimulating, whereas male chests are not.
Unless, of course the woman is lactating, in which case Florida law states that the breast will NOT be viewed in any way as sexual in nature, and it is illegal for anyone to comment on the exposed breast in question.
Yes. I'm confused too.
I don't see a problem with it... Would make me want to visit the beach more! ;-)
Because we live in a prude country.
They can. I guess you live in some backward area.
Because men have dirty minds. And besides, most women would feel uncomfortable going topless.
On some beaches, it's not illegal though. I've seen women sunbathe, topless. But here (on the tip of the "god awful" bible belt), it is definitely illegal.
Because I will yell at them and get them arrested. Women, keep your tops on. Make the guy buy you dinner before you show off your goods.
victorian moral ethics...there is absolutely no reason that women can't go topless in my opinion...
I've wondered about that. Many guys have "man-boobs" that are bigger than the breasts that some women have. And, they're gross! Seems like a double standard.
Why is it considered indecent for a woman, yet not for a disgusting man?
They can in many places, however I'm going to answer in the reference that there are places that they cant.
This is not a matter of equality, it is a matter of reason, men without their shirts on are not exposing a area of large sexual importance, while it is almost universally accepted that womens chests is an area of sexual importance. Just like men cannot expose our penises (and women for the most part cannot expose their vagina's, though I don't think people would stop you if you did at a beach) because it is a place that is universally accepted as sexual.
Now, I personally don't know why people find sex to be a private or disgusting matter, when it is the most natural act of life, however in this culture anything related to sex is shushed down, thats why women cannot display their chests in public. (and believe me, I disagree with this)
There is no problem with topless sunbathers in most European countries I know of, Norway, France, Spain and Italy it is definatly ok.
1) They can't do it in countries, states or places where it is prohibited by law, or this would be a criminal offense:
"Indecent exposure is the deliberate exposure by a person of a portion or portions of his or her own body under circumstances where such an exposure is likely to be deemed an offense against prevalent standards of decency and may in fact be a violation of law."
"What qualifies as indecent exposure varies with the authority having jurisdiction. Indecent exposure is often prohibited as a criminal offense."
"In the fifty states of the United States indecent exposure is defined by state law as exposure of the genitals and/or the female breast in a public place and may in some states require evidence of intent to shock, arouse or offend other persons. The act is prohibited by state laws titled variously as Indecent Exposure, Sexual Misconduct, Public Lewdness, and Public Indecency. It is a criminal offense in all fifty states and is punishable by fines and/or imprisonment, and in some states a conviction results in having to register as a sex offender."
"A majority of states have enacted statutes specifically permitting the exposure of the female breast by women breast-feeding infants, or exempting such women from prosecution under applicable statutes."
Source and further information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_exposure
2) Some information about toplessness:
"Being topless or bare chested means not wearing any clothing above the waist, exposing the entire torso. The term "topless" is in general only applied to women, though it can be applied to men."
"For many non-western cultures, including southern Africa and South America (for example the Namibian Himba people and Ancient Minoans on the island of Crete) toplessness was the norm for both men and women."
"In Western culture it is much more common for men to be bare chested than women. "Bare chested" itself and the euphemisms "stripped to the waist", and shirtless are commonly used for men. The principal difference between toplessness and bare chestedness is that the female breast has strong overtones of sexuality, while the male chest is not considered as sexually provocative, so local decency laws often discriminate specifically between women and men not putting clothes on their upper bodies. For the debate on this issue and the position that the breast is not primarily a sexual organ, see breastfeeding."
"Most western cultures disapprove of or punish women who reveal their breasts in public. A movement, topfree equality, opposes this view."
Source and further information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topless
3) Here some information about the Topfreedom movement:
"Topfreedom is a social movement which seeks to accord women the right to go topless in public should they so choose, where men have the equivalent right. Examples of public spaces which might be covered include beaches, swimming pools and parks. The reasons cited include keeping nursing mothers from having to find a hidden place for breastfeeding, allowing women to sun tan, comfort in places such as pools and beaches, and sex equality issues."
"Western culture generally tends to oppose public female toplessness because of the idea that females breasts are sexual organs, and thus indecent. In contrast, the male chest is not commonly considered to be sexual.
Biologically there is no particular connection between mammary glands and copulation, but breasts have conventionally been regarded by many cultures as sexually arousing, and some zoologists (notably Desmond Morris) believe that through human evolution, female breasts have acquired secondary sexual characteristics as a counterpart of the buttocks in other primates. For more information, see breast.
Some courts in North America have ruled that mammary glands are nurturing organs, not sexual organs, a relevant distinction in light of laws in certain jurisdictions that specifically restrict the public display of sexual organs."
Source and further information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topfree_equality
4) Other Countries' Rules:
"A burqa (also burkha, burka or burqua) is an enveloping outer garment worn by women in some Islamic traditions for the purpose of cloaking the entire body. It is worn over the usual daily clothing (often a long dress or a shalwar kameez) and removed when the woman returns to the sanctuary of the household."
"Before the Taliban took power in Afghanistan, the chadri was infrequently worn in cities. While they were in power, the Taliban treatment of women required the wearing of a chadri in public. Officially, it is not required under the present Afghan regime, but local warlords still enforce it outside Kabul. Due to political instability in these areas, women who might not otherwise be inclined to wear the chadri must do so as matter of personal safety."
Source and further information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa
Because beaches are rated G.
Still Topless In Ontario
Even though "EI Nino" weather patterns this year have warmed up most of Ontario, it has fortunately not been warm enough to encourage women to bare their breasts this winter. With spring and summer rapidly approaching, however, no doubt we can expect a few women to expose their breasts again, to the leering enjoyment of some men, and the disgust of more rational women and men. (See "Topless in Ontario", Reality, July/August 1997, p. 5).
The topless issue in Ontario has not died down. Quite the contrary. The controversial decision in 1996 of the Ontario Court of Appeal, that women exposing their breasts in public was legal, based on their "equality" with men, and not an indecent act under the Criminal Code, was referred last summer by the federal government to the Criminal Law Section of the Uniform Law Conference. The latter organization consists of representatives from the federal and provincial governments and the legal community. The Conference will report in August, 1998 on whether legislative change is necessary or desirable on the topless issue.
Meanwhile, the public has not been idle. Carole Faraone formed a group in Toronto that collected 60,000 names on a petition against toplessness in an attempt to protect children from public indecency and to protect women from sexual assaults. The petition was tabled in Parliament in early February by Independent MP, John Nunziata, who predicted that unless the government acts, public nudity by both sexes could take place without penalty. This latter petition followed a 40,000-name petition tabled in Parliament last year as well as many other smaller petitions tabled by MPs from various regions across the country.
In spite of this, however, feminist Justice Minister, Anne McLellan, has so far chosen to ignore the demands of the public. When the 60,000-name petition was tabled in February, she quickly ruled out any action by the federal government, saying that local governments are in the best position to settle the topless controversy with regulations reflecting community standards. Ms. McLellan, as a lawyer, knows full well that public nudity and indecency are criminal offenses, which fall solely within the jurisdiction of the federal government. The only jurisdiction that local communities have to curb toplessness is to pass municipal by-laws regarding property. This is scarcely sufficient to deal with the problem. According to the Lawyer's Weekly (Feb. 27, 1998), topless women seem to be at the bottom of Ms. McLellan's legislative list.
Perhaps Ms. McLellan should learn something about democracy: it is the voting public, not the Minister, surrounded by her faceless bureaucrats, who should make decisions as to which laws are best for society.
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