What if the people on acid and other psychedelic drugs are the ones seeing the true reality, and we are the ones in a daze?

Psychedelics are an odd duck.

I was quite the fan when I was young. As many others will testify, there's no question about the transformative power of those experiences: they can indeed provide a window into true self.

But I don't think it's a good way to do spiritual development, and the dangers are quite real: plenty of psychological damage has occurred from psychedelics taken by those who are less than fully stable, or taken in adverse conditions.

Psychedelics disrupt the conditioned / habitual patterns of thinking and perceiving which characterize "normal" consciousness. A mind freed from this conditioning can leap forward immensely along the developmental road and see where it leads -- for a few hours. But the magic wears off, and the individual is left with a bunch of new *concepts* about spirituality or life, which really don't add up to sustainable developmental progress.

I suppose there's a place for getting a sneak preview, if it were carefully managed, and subjects were carefully selected -- there were experiments along these lines in the 60's which showed promise. But I feel on balance that the best way to do spiritual development is the old fashioned way: one day at a time, making steady progress through steady effort... that produces changes which last, without the flash and sizzle -- or dangers -- of temporary chemical enlightenment.

well if thats the case I would be a guru ....lol I took well over 500 trips in the late 60's and 70's !and I am still just like everyone else ....bent ....lol

Well I guess it really is a question of what you call reality. Everything we feel and touch and see is really just and impulse sent to our brainand our brain gives us back an idea of what we touched or saw or whatever. Therefore reality is pretty much just what the majority agrees that there brains are telling them something is. So I suppose if the majority of people are on LSD the different signals that the drug causes their brainto give could be considered reality.

it's the same reality, you're just perceiving it differently.

LSD is a serotonin receptor agonist. Since it is taken up into the 5-HT receptors instead of serotonin, serotonin effectively loses its ability to limit the activity of it's set systems (emotional, sensory, dopamine, etc) and the brain flows as it wants to. The reason for this emotional and sensory govern on your brain is probably because, as anyone who has taken LSD knows, the onslaught of multiple trains of thought and the hallucinations and distortions are very distracting. Imagine going to work every day on four hits of acid.

One side of psychedelics is self discovery. It's basically a shortcut past meditation. The conscious filter for your thoughts and emotions that keep your brain free of mental clutter are dissolved and everything floods with everything else. It's an uncontrollable mess of past and present emotions and different problems, ideas and feelings resurfacing unrestrained. To close your eyes and go inward during a trip is a good way to sort through your issues and in some cases different psychological disorders have been cured by such a thing. This cannot really be done without the drug or years and years of concentration. LSD doesn't really open up a new reality, it just amplifies the current one.

I have no idea, but if I was tripping the answers would pour out of me like water!

some trips are to convincing to think other.

i think pschedelics open your mind to the bigger picture but it is up to the person using it to take what they have learned and not let it fizzle away after the magic has gone that in my opinion is TRUE responsible drug use

this orange juice thing came from a movie. I think it was SLC punk or something. but it makes its point, if you do that much acid you're "not" going to be what you thought you were b4 you took the acid. I can't imagen that actually bieng etched into someones brain that badly, once the mind sleeps and re-awakes I doub it's gona be like "OMG IM STILL A GLASS OF ORANGE JOICE". It would prolly move on to the wall or something atleast...maybe even an hrly happening.

my oppion on acid is this, it's illegal because it's vary hard to show people how to do it safely. and to have it even a remotely safe thing to do for the "public" is a bad idea... thats like going into a school and saying "hi kids! today where gona teach you acid safety"
theres no point,
"lets just not worry about this problem, make it illegal as fuck to scare people into not doing it so we can move onto something else".

the one thing I like, that I noticed about acid...aswell as shrooms and thats guess what. DOGS CANT FIND THAT SHIT! WOOO!
so unless you smoke weed. which you more then likely do, if your even thinking about trying acid, your not gona get cought unless your stupid. "hi copper im trippen face! HA!".

I'v heard storys of people really doing shit like that.
in which case your fucked, and are stupid, and well, I'm glad acid being illegal helped get someone stupid like you of the streets.

it's like the government is litteraly saying "HEY! EVERYONE!, OOPS! we invented acid!, DONT DO IT!...cause theres not much else we can do to stop ya...be safe, oh and don't get caught".

so if your thinking about trying acid, do just that. try it and be safe.
don't warship it, NO ONE understands it..but boy it's fun trying.

"they can indeed provide a window into true self." is more then well put.

it's kinda like having sex,

theres GREAT SEX, and then theres....
BAD, omg wth was i thinking, stuck with 3 kids and I'm still single
AND / or have a std now...sex.

enjoy, be safe, educate your frineds.

*always where a condom*
or in this case
*always have a trip sitter*

some condoms brake,
some sitters take acid too =P

some people say they don't need condoms, but that doesnt always work out.

some people dont't need trip sitters, but they can still eat to much.

acid not only teaches us all how to now only help others, share,
and be peacful, but to use common since aswell.


p.s. I am tripping on acid right now...amen bothers!