by Talimze on May 6th, 2007

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I'm making a PC game set in Medieval Europe where you take control of a nation. I've already made the map, but I have a problem: I'm not sure which nations to include. I can only have fifteen, so which ones should I add based on the time period?

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  • by Kevisaurus is a Carnotaurus today on May 8th, 2007

    Kevisaurus is a Carnotaurus today

    I am a bonified history buff. Here it is, order does not mean rank.
    1) England
    2) France
    3) Sweden
    4) Poland
    5) Russia
    6) Spain
    7) Portugal
    8) German confederated states i.e Prussians
    9) Hapsburg i.e. Austria Hungarians
    10) Serbian and confederate states
    11)Scottish and Celtic states
    12) Unified Italian states
    13) Turkish Sultanate
    14) Kingdom of the Netherlands
    15) Bulgars and Romanians

    This is 100% my best effort.
    Can I have feedback if I was helpful?

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  • by Halskiisaklink on May 6th, 2007

    Halskiisaklink

    Hmm, that's interesting...

    Well, any anglophile gamer would want the Britons, so that's a definite.
    Also, the Spanish Berbers should be worth considering. I'll try for a list:

    The Britons (a gaming standard)
    The Spanish (you could possibly divide this between Christian Spain and Islamic Spain)
    The Franks
    The Hungarians
    The Russians
    Papal States
    The Swedes
    The Celts
    The Byzantines
    The Serbs
    The Bulgarians
    The Norwegians
    The Ruthenians
    The Danes
    The Swiss

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  • by edge is a proud member of LOCLAB on August 14th, 2009

    edge is a proud member of LOCLAB

    OK a list of European countries and city states 13.00 14 00...Some of them ocupy land just outside what is called modern day europe......hope this helps
    Achaia
    Aragon
    Athens
    Bedouin tribes
    Berber tribes
    Bulgaria
    Byzantine Empire
    Castile
    Cyprus
    Denmark
    Empire of Trebizond
    England
    Finns
    France
    Gascony
    Genoa
    Georgia
    Granada
    Hafsids
    Navarre
    Holy Roman Empire
    Hungary
    Ilkhan Empire
    Ireland
    Khanate of the Golden Horde
    Kingdom of the Two Sicilies
    Knights of St. John
    Lapps
    Lithuania
    Libyan tribes
    Majorca
    Mameluke Empire
    Marinids
    Mazovia
    Norway
    Norwegian Iceland
    Papal_states
    Poland
    Portugal
    Sardinia
    Scotland
    Serbia
    small Turkic states
    Sweden
    Teutonic Order
    Vassal states of the Golden Horde
    Venetian Crete
    Venice
    Wallachia
    Zayyanids

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  • by dracjamir on August 21st, 2009

    dracjamir

    if u cud...i'd advice changing the theme frm 'EARTH' to 'MARS'...hear me up...most strategy games (be it medival or futuristic) are made on the 'EARTH' platform...ofcourse these games are great...but if we change the war area from 'EARTH' to 'MARS' then u can add new chracters,nations,weapons,abilities et-cetra et-cetra...and since 'MARS' has no practical map u can make ur own...its just an advice...gud luck with the gamemaking...
    p.s:if u may need anymore advice here's my e-mail; obedjamir@yahoo.com or predop293@gmail.com

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  • by doromo on January 11th, 2009

    doromo

    same as the person uder neath me

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  • by Eaoden on September 5th, 2008

    Eaoden

    I believe you should hav the following factions

    Scotland- cause we're awesome
    England- eh they beat us suppose they can't be that bad
    France- Scotlands old allies against the English
    Spain conquerers of South America
    Russia- Cause Russian's are cool
    Germany- Cause u know those Germans
    Ottoman Empire- They had big Guns
    Byzantine Empire- They kept the roman empire alive
    The Golden Horde- a.k.a Mongolians
    Denmark- Where the Vikings originated
    Finland- some bloodcrudling warriors came from there
    Italy- cant think of much cept they had Merchants
    Egypt- Home of Pyramids
    Poland- dunno what to say really
    Sweeden-were one of the big players back then


    Bonus Factions if in the future you could make these Factions unlockable

    Knights Templar famous for there Destruction on Friday the Thirteenth

    The Teutonic Order- They were the Knights who conquered Lithuania at Poland's request but grew too powerful for them to control.

    Ireland and Wales Traditionally Englands Enemies

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  • by Costantinus on December 7th, 2007

    Costantinus

    I just typed "medieval europe map" into google images and got tons of results, perhaps you want to do the same

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  • by Jack Wallace on December 8th, 2007

    Jack Wallace

    Suggestion: try to find a copy of Games Workshop's board game "Blood Royale" for some excellent ideas as to how to do this, though on a PC you'll be able to go fare more in depth than they ever did - and they only had 5 powers, not 15. (A great game, but it's been out of print for almost 20 years ... God I'm getting old!) Also, check out the PC game *EUROPA UNIVERSALIS II*: it begins a little late (1430) but the map of European provinces will be most useful.

    AS to your map questions:

    First problem: in Medieval Europe there are not "nations" as such -- at least as "nation states". As far as who the players should be, players should represent dynasties, not nationalities. (After all, the "nationality" of every prince of Medieval Europe was the same as every other prince's nationality: Franco-German -- just like today!)

    Second problem: The Time period is also vast (500-1500 AD), and things change. The political boundaries and the locations of peoples are in constant flux (the latter, more than the former). Consider the following maps (which are crude to say the least, and give the wrong impression that these were actually monochromatic unified nations rather than patworks of feudal estates)

    998 AD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Europe998new.png
    1328 AD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Europein1328.png
    1470 AD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Europe_in_1470.png

    Third problem: the Kingdom of France and the Holy Roman Empire, were typically just confederations of (often inter-warring) feudal states - many of them great powers in their own right (Burgundy, Saxony, Florence, Venice, Normandy, to name but a few); strong kins and emperors were rare. And then there's the problem of overlapping domains: e.g., Henry II of England who was also Duke of Normandy, Count of Anjou, Maine & Touraine, Duke of Aquitaine (Guienne & Gascony), Count of Poitou - and thus a "vassal" of the king of France - who ruled 5x more of France than the king did.

    Additionally, there's the problem of the trbal peoples of the frontiers (the Welsh and Irish in the West, the Slavs in the East) who had no central government or monarchy, and were gradually conquered and colonized by their "chivalric" neighbors. Then there's the problem of the Moslem Moors in Spain and the Turks in the East. And do you want to include the Crusader States of The Holy Land and the Teutonic Knights?

    Finally, you have to figure out what you're going to do about elective monarchies and the great republics: The Holy Roman Emperor (King of Germany (and northern Italy)) was elected by 4 great princes (Duke of Saxony, Margrave of Brandenburg, King of Bohemia, Count Palatine of the Rhine), and 3 great prince-archbishops (Mainz, Cologne, and Trier) of the Empire. Similarly, the Pope (and Patrimony/the Papal States with him) was elected by the Cardinals. If you have the Teutonic Knights (ruled Prussia & Livonia), they were ruled by an elected Grand Master subject (in theory) to the Pope. And finally how will you handle the Venitians, the Genoese, the Florentines, and the Hanseatic League?

    All that being said, if you want to go for national/cultural/regional/traditional boundaries, rather than feudal political ones, then you can pretty much use most of the country names we have today:

    1 *Germany (which would included Austria, Switzerland, BeNeLux,
    eastern France, and western Poland)
    2 France (minus Aquitaine, Franche Compte, Alsace &Lorraine)
    3 England (but Ireland is ruled by many petty kings, and Wales is a
    bunch of tribes under chiefs until conquered in the 1280s.)
    4 Scotland
    5 "The Spains" (only the far north of the peninsula at first, as the rest was controlled by the Moors, and there were several "kingdoms" over the period, most at the same time: Castille, Leon, Asturias, Aragon, Navarre, Valencia, & the County of Portingale (Portugal)).
    6 Norway
    7 Denmark (includes southern Sweden)
    8 Sweden (not much of player until the Reformation, though -- might want to forget it and split "The Spains" into Aragon & Castille.)
    9 *Italy (which in medieval times was strictly NORTHERN Italy, including Rome) - always subject to the Holy Roman Emperor, who was also king of Italy as well as Germany.
    10 *Siciliy (including southern Italy and Sardinia)
    11 Hungary (includes Slovakia, and most of Romania)
    12 *Bohemai (Chzech Republic and Silesia in southwest Poland)
    13 Poland-Lithuania, lead by an elected king and a parliament of nobles where every noble had an absolute veto power.
    14 The Byzantine Empire (Turkey, Greece and the Balkhans)
    15 Aquitaine (southern France) - ruled by a duke vassaled to the king of France

    *Note: The Holy Roman Empire included Germany, Bohemia, Italy, and sometimes Sicily (as defined above)

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  • by denidowi on May 8th, 2008

    denidowi

    Don't use real names for a game, Man!

    You make up the game?
    You make up the name!

    How many top-selling novels do you know that use real country or city names??

    Make up some fun titles, such as : Atu, Gabbaland, etc.
    Invent ya stuff.
    Look at Hogwarts!
    ... and Lord of the Rings!
    They just is not real.

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  • by Midgardsormr on December 7th, 2007

    Midgardsormr

    If it helps, here's a political map of Europe at 1100 A.D.:

    http://www.euratlas.com/big/europe_1100.jpg

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