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It's the rap music that started degrading black women. Im an African American woman and I dont listen to rap because of the lyrics. There are so many young girls runnig around singing the lyrics to the song and dancing to it and they love to go to the club to shake their a** to it and I have a problem with that. I try to explain to these girls but they dont listen. They say why should we stop listening to the music, it's not going to change anything. I tried....as long as my daughter dont listen to that crap, Im fine.
Women have not fared well in most societies and in most ages, but this is the first, to my knowledge, that glorifies treating them badly. I grew up in the time of feminism, where we struggled to gain respect for women, and did make some breakthroughs. Then along comes a whole generation that says "Forget about equality. Let's call women ho's and bitches, denigrate mothers, and treat women as just sex objects. What's more, we'll promote artists who will glorify this attitude in their music and their video clips."
Guys, I am a singer. I know the full gamut of music from even before the start of rock, and I have never heard women treated so badly as they are in hip hop and rap in any musical genre. Blues and soul also came out of horrific social backgrounds, but they gave birth to Motown, with its classy women and Atlantic records, where Aretha sang "Respect" and got it.
I think it's a vicious cycle: rappers sing about what they know or what they think their audiences want to hear. Those who listen to this music then have the notion that degrading women is normative & socially acceptable. Because they don't think it's a problem, they want to listen to more, so the rappers & hip hop artists create more to satisfy demand. It's especially true when it's what someone grows up listening to and it's all they hear.
Hip-hop is a culture like any other. Within this culture are people called rappers who rap about things that either a. they know from their personal life or b. things they think listeners want to hear about or c. both.
Society is to blame on why some rappers degrade women and their heritage within their music, not hip-hop. You cant blame a culture for the ignorance of a few.
I blame the ignorance of a whole generation of people that listen, and make that kind of "music". And we as women, do it to ourselves. When we run around calling each other whores, sluts, and bitches, we're only saying that it's okay for men to call us by that as well. I blame everyone equally, even myself.
My opinion is simple and applies not only to hip hop, but to movies that degrade women and teach young boys violence is cool and if your smart you are a loser and my message is simple. "QUIT BLAMING ISH ON THE MEDIA AND TAKE BACK YOUR COMMUNITIES". The reality is rap is reality in a way. People dump on it for being hardcore but most guys in the profession come from hardcore places. Where guns get shots, where females have 0 respect for themselves, where crack gets sold where cops do illegal stuff at. It dont justify them making violence some glorious things or womens some belittled things but alot of these guys when they rap about women really don't rap about women they rap about (going to offend people) Bitches and hoes. Girls who sleep with the whole neighborhood, chicks who rob dudes who go to the club get drunk don't know what they did and who they did it with and feel its cool. Now not all rap is about crime and sex as people try to claim but the ones that are speak about a real problem in the community in a way that is offensive because they belittle women instead of inspire them to change. When it comes to hip hop,video games, movies they dictate 0 actions if you become a well rounded person. But sadly America does a terrible job of creating well rounded human being because a vicious uncheck cycle has grown and spread to the point that it could be years before we get better schools, more educated parents better police to keep these kids mind straight. To me if we create better communites the drug slanging, pimping, gun shooting women degrading aspect of hip hop would be gone because it wouldn't be there anymore to bring to light. No matter how offensive and deluded rappers may appear to you everything they rap about happens on the daily but the question is not are we going to censor rap or any form of the media we deem corrupt but are we going to take responsiblity for our communities because believe me all these entertainters trying to get paid they ain't trying to save the world.
To the rapper and those who enjoy the music (women included), the music is not degrading. It is meant as a way to have fun and not meant to be serious. It also may describe what people are going through in life, good and bad. It helps people deal with the bad and enjoy the good. It's what sells and as Eminem says "We're entertainers, of course this shit's affecting our sales You ignoramus. but music is reflection of self We just explain it, and then we get our cheques in the mail"
b) rapping about what they know
You could replace most hip hop titles and lyrics with, "Look at me, I'm the best."
you know what i have heard some of that crap , and its degrading , and rude and it has no respect for any of us women , who is to blame for this crap , i wish i knew , and they call it music , no it is not music .
"I can see the logic in that. What about the people who live in these ghettos and this is how they feel, and they don't stop buying the records. What then? "
I think thats a cop out. If there is no music like that to buy than what? they may have to change the way they think. Its horrible to think that anyone thinks of women like this. the lyrics in these songs are over the top and they don't necessarily convey how everyone thinks or feels in the ghetto. these songs could make a turn for the positive and teach people in the ghetto a different way to feel.
The culprit is the love of money. As long as the public continues to buy music of this type, music companies are going to produce it and performers are going to record the vulgar lyrics that devalue women. Society has to ban together and not support this travesty.
Hip-hop is a culture like any other. Within this culture are people called rappers who rap about things that either a. they know from their personal life or b. things they think listeners want to hear about or c. both.
Society is to blame on why some rappers degrade women and their heritage within their music, not hip-hop. You cant blame a culture for the ignorance of a few.
No more than rock music.
I don't think that Hip Hop is the culprit and that 100% of the blame should be put on it for the disrespect of women, but I think it holds it's share. If we stop producing this music, it won't be glamorized, and maybe we can plant some seed that when you call a woman a hoe or a bitch that you are saying that to someone's mother, sister, daughter and or friend. Would they want someone saying that about their mother or sister, etc? I also believe that we teach people how to treat us. If we respond positively by dancing at the clubs to these offensive songs, and buying the CD's, that's positive reinforcement, and that needs to be stopped as well. It's a cycle.
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that is wounderfull to hear, what kind of music does she listen to .
by SG QOTABD RIP SHELLA DARLING on April 20th, 2007
I believe that we teach people how to treat us. If someone shouts out 'Hey, hoe!' and you turn around and respond positively, they start to think it's okay to say these things. It's the same with rap music. If they continue to call women bitches and hoes, and then get these women to dance in their videos and dance in the clubs to it, and buy the music, how will we ever get them to stop? Thanks Beauty for your input.
by Penny The Wise on April 20th, 2007
Good on you Beauty. You are a shining light.
by singwell-is off researching a lot on May 25th, 2007