by MORE GOOD on October 5th, 2011

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im a valuable asset to my company & very needed - but my line manager under values me and severely underpays me ..what should i do ?

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by Occams Electric Razor on October 5th, 2011

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Imo you really only have 2 choices. You can look for another job and leave the company or look for another job and If you are as you say, a very needed asset, then it is you who has the best bargaining chip.
I think the best approach is to be honest and direct about it. Meet with your boss or manager, state your grievances, explain that you have other offers but you would like to stay with this company but you feel it is fair that you receive (whatever it is you want...more money, a promotion or whatever) if you do stay. Give examples to illustrate why you deserve whatever it is you want. If they don't want to try to compromise or give you what you want then you already have another job lined up and you put in your notice or resignation. No point in staying where you are if it's a dead end career.
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- great advice thanks... I have also been recommended to meet and ask for a payrise, but to me the damage is done...why cant my boss offer a bonus / payrise or even give me some encouragment?
  
  What is this modern business world of idiots who swallow text books but have no skills communicating with real people ?
  
  Im supposed to ask for what i think im worth, but any company that cant appreciate me or approach me and offer something - wont get me, and im very very sure its going to be their loss.. i will teach them a lesson that they will never forget, because when i leave...i leave with all the success they have been reaping.
  
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  by MORE GOOD on October 6th, 2011
- In a perfect world we all would receive recognition for our accomplishments and endeavors as well as pay that is relevant to the quality and amount of work we do...unfortunately businesses are in the business of making money and no one can expect their boss to fully notice or even be aware of one's accoplishments and contributions and surely most bosses will dodge paying you more unless they have to. More often than not, one has to simply find happiness and fulfillment themselves and consider it a treat when the boss notices your contributions.
  But you can never expect a company to come to you and offer you a bonus or pay raise on their own! It might happen but it rarely does and so YOU have to make sure that you can adequately convey to your superiors your ability and be able to effectively negotiate bonuses, promotions and pay raises..you have to go get it...if you wait around for a company to come to you, then you might be waiting forever.
  Sadly most businesses are run incorrectly and those who do the most and work the hardest are at the bottom of the corporate foodchain....we can hope for change but until it does happen, you have to go out there and get what you want!
  Ture the damage might already be done and moving on is best, but what if the next job turns out the same? I guess you could always leave that job too, but then you have a weak, spotty work history/resume and have to deal with all of the annoyances of constantly starting new jobs with new companies.
  
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by Possum on October 5th, 2011
Why the differnce in perception between you and your manager?

If not your manager, who says you're, "a valuable asset to my company & very needed."
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- sorry i dont understand
  
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  by MORE GOOD on October 6th, 2011
- @more-You're tooting your own horn but the person closest to you at work doesn't agree.
  
  Is this value and need all in your head or does someone else agree?
  
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  by Possum on October 6th, 2011
- yeah im making it all up..its in my head that our weekly profits have risen 70% since i started ..also since i started we have recieved a certificate of excellence for 2011.. and its also in my head that for my position and duties im underpaid by around 16,000$
  
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  by MORE GOOD on October 6th, 2011
- Hey-you don't have to sell me on anything. But no far no one but you has said you were worth a damn.
  
  Maybe your being there and the instututional performance was just a cooincidence. Maybe having a drone to do the grunt-work while the smart-guys made things happen caused the performance increase.
  
  You haven't said a thing about your job or what you do-just that you showed up and everything got wonderful. Maybe you replaced someone even less competent than you and things started to click.
  
  Tell me one thing you did to make that sub-shop work better. You arrogant little prick.
  
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  by Possum on October 6th, 2011
- @more-since you have said virtually nothing about yourself or your job situation, maybe I came on too strong.
  
  But might I ask why you feel you are so valuable when the accomplishments you mentioned are institutional?
  
  Did you:
  
  -find a way to brng in more customers
  -develop a technique for increasing per-customer sales
  -impliment a customer-retention program
  -identify cost cutting opportunities while maintianing service levels
  -or any one of about 1/2 a dozen other things?
  
  Just because you where there when then happened doesn't mean you had anything to do with the cuase of theire happening.
  
  Are we now talking the same language?
  
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