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Article on Becks remarks and a link to an audio clip of Becks radio show.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/08/glenn-beck-urges-listeners-to-leave-churches-that-preach-social/
by Glenn Blaylock on March 9th, 2010
"Social justice" is a catch phrase used by those on the left to justify forcibly taking money from those that earn it so that it can be given to those that did not earn it. In other words, it is the battle cry of those that favor socialism. I would walk out on a church that promoted that failed economic system, too.
by Old School on March 8th, 2010
I didn't know that...but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
Glenn Beck could star in the world's shortest episode of "Spot the Loony"...;-D...
by Melissa on March 13th, 2010
No, I didn't know that, but it sounds like something he would say, and I whole-heartedly agree.
by aiar on March 13th, 2010
POLITICS AND CHURCH DON'T MIX - YOU NIT WIT - WHEN DID GOD MENTION SOCIA JUSTICE? - WHEN DID THE PROGRESSIVE SOCIALISTS MENTION IT? THEY ARE ALWAYS MENTIONING IT AND TRYING TO CHANGE AMERICA.
Suggestion: If that's what you want then move to Venezuela, Cuba, China or n. Korea - GET A LIFE AND ABOVE ALL SOME EDUCATION p Might even go and puke at Rev Wright's church where Obammer went for 20 years!!!
by Shari on March 10th, 2010
Beck represents those elements within our society who are all mentally ill but believe that what they think is actually healthy & normal. They live in a religious-utopian fantasy world. Why in the hell would this guy get the air time that he gets? Because a lot of people in America think just like him folks, and IT IS THIS THAT AMERICA NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF. THE RIGHT-WING SEGMENT IN AMERICA IS BECOMING FASCIST. They will destroy America if they gain any significant power. Beck and a lot of other mindless followers like him are right-wing religious fanatics who can only stick within THAT conceptual domain and progress NO further. This is part of the reason why America is so stupid! America is so undereducated.
by Moongrim on March 9th, 2010
A source. Well done.
GAG!
So in other words, Glenn Beck of the Mormon Church says that expecting folks to act Christ-like is a good reason to leave the church.
(Dry-Heaves!)
by MrJosh on March 8th, 2010
I didn't know that, but it sounds like par for the course for him.
by TWA on March 8th, 2010
Charity is socialism. If God wanted Haitians to survive, he wouldn't have earthquaked them.
by Wynper on March 13th, 2010
An Up-date: Beck seems to have angered some evangelicals.
(CNN) -- An evangelical leader is calling for a boycott of Glenn Beck's television show and challenging the Fox News personality to a public debate after Beck vilified churches that preach economic and social justice.
The Rev. Jim Wallis, president of Sojourners, a network of progressive Christians, says Beck perverted Jesus' message when he urged Christians last week to leave churches that preach social and economic justice.
Wallis says Beck compared those churches to Communists and Nazis.
Wallis says at least 20,000 people have already responded to his call to boycott Beck. He says Beck is confusing his personal philosophy with the Bible.
"He wants us to leave our churches, but we should leave him," Wallis says of Beck. "When your political philosophy is to consistently favor the rich over the poor, you don't want to hear about economic justice."
Wallis says he wants to go on Beck's show to challenge the contention that churches shouldn't preach economic and social justice.
Social and economic justice is at the heart of Jesus' message, Wallis says.
"He's afraid of being challenged on his silly caricatures," Wallis says. "Glenn Beck talks a lot when he doesn't have someone to dialogue with. Is he willing to talk with someone who he doesn't agree with?"
Beck did not answer numerous requests for an interview.
Glenn Beck talks a lot when he doesn't have someone to dialogue with
--The Rev. Jim Wallis
But a prominent evangelical leader says he, too, is suspicious of churches that preach economic and social justice.
Jerry Falwell Jr., president of Liberty University, a Christian college in Virginia, says Jesus wasn't interested in politics. He says that those pastors who preach economic and social justice "are trying to twist the gospel to say the gospel supported socialism."
"Jesus taught that we should give to the poor and support widows, but he never said that we should elect a government that would take money from our neighbor's hand and give it to the poor," Falwell says.
Falwell says that Jesus believed that individuals, not governments, should help the poor.
"If we all did as Jesus did when he helped the poor, we wouldn't need the government," says Falwell, the son of the late evangelical leader, the Rev. Jerry Falwell.
What is economic and social justice?
The term "economic and social justice" is not easy to define. It has different meanings for different people.
If we all did as Jesus did when he helped the poor, we wouldn't need the government
--Jerry Falwell Jr.
For some Christians, practicing economic and social justice means that churches should practice charity: setting up soup kitchens, assisting victims of natural disasters, and helping people find jobs.
For other Christians, practicing economic and social justice also means trying to change the conditions that cause people to be poor or unemployed. The Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. subscribed to this definition of biblical justice.
Marty Duren, a Southern Baptist Convention pastor, says some conservative Christians have traditionally thought churches shouldn't get involved in economic or social justice.
"For a long time, Southern Baptists and evangelicals were so focused on the return of Christ that what was happening in the real world was almost incidental," says Duren, who blogs at martyduren.com.
But within the last two decades, Duren says, more evangelical Christians have come to believe that the Bible calls for economic and social justice.
William Wilberforce, for example, is a 19th century British politician who helped abolish the slave trade in his country. He is now regarded as a hero for some evangelicals because he applied his faith to the economic and social justice issues of his day, Duren says.
Did Jesus preach about social and economic justice?
The Bible cares about social and economic justice, Duren says.
"The Old Testament is replete with examples of God threatening to judge a nation because of a lack of justice or carrying out that threat of judgment against a nation,'' Duren says.
He believes Beck was wrong to tell Christians that they shouldn't belong to churches that seek justice.
"If I had any authority at Fox News right now, Glenn Beck would be seeking economic justice," Duren says.
The Rev. Jim Wallis is the president of Sojourners, a network of Christians.
The Rev. Jim Wallis is the president of Sojourners, a network of Christians.
That concern for justice is what helped convert him, says Wallis, president of Sojourners. Wallis, who counts King as one of his faith role models, says the Bible isn't just concerned with feeding the poor -- it's concerned about the conditions that create the poor.
Wallis also evoked the Christians who fought against slavery as well as civil rights activists.
"The Bible just didn't say take care of the victim -- it talks about justice," says Wallis, who is the author of "Rediscovering Values: On Wall Street, Main Street and Your Street."
Meanwhile, Wallis says he's waiting for that public debate with Beck.
"I'll have it," Wallis says, "anywhere he wants."
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/03/12/beck.boycott/index.html?hpt=C2
by jubilee on March 23rd, 2010
In a sense, I understand where Beck is coming from. I'm not a religious person but I grew up with religion and am familiar with the Bible. Jesus did not advocate big government solutions to mans problems. He also did not advocate taking from others by force to "redistribute" to others. It's up to the individual to do his part through acts of charity. Churches have become increasingly political on the right AND on the left. People should not accept having their faith twisted to serve a political agenda.
by aiar on March 11th, 2010
NO I don't, I listen to him and never heard his say that (Just provide me with the proof, or specific date will be just fine).
by Randoley on March 11th, 2010
If you know how "social justice" was used in this instance and what the Bible says about it then Beck said the right thing.
by Wynper on March 12th, 2010
From:http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/11/christians-urged-to-boycott-glenn-beck/?hp
Mr. Beck, in vilifying churches that promote “social justice,” managed to insult just about every mainline Protestant, Roman Catholic, African-American, Hispanic and Asian congregation in the country — not to mention plenty of evangelical ones.
Even Mormon scholars in Mr. Beck’s own church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said in interviews that Mr. Beck seemed ignorant of just how central social justice teaching was to Mormonism.
The controversy began when Mr. Beck said on his radio show: “I beg you, look for the words ’social justice’ or ‘economic justice’ on your church Web site. If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words.
“Am I advising people to leave their church? Yes! If I am going to Jeremiah Wright’s church,” he said, referring to the incendiary black pastor who led the church attended by the Obama family members when they lived in Chicago. “If you have a priest that is pushing social justice, go find another parish. Go alert your bishop and tell them, ‘Excuse me, are you down with this whole social justice thing?’ ”
Religious bloggers, from the Rev. James Martin, an editor at the liberal Jesuit magazine America, to Joe Carter, at the conservative magazine First Things, took Mr. Beck’s decree as possibly an attack on Catholic teaching, and definitely an affront to Christianity.
Father Martin wrote on the Huffington Post: “It is not enough simply to help the poor, one must address the structures that keep them that way. Standing up for the rights of the poor is not being a Nazi, it’s being Christian. And Communist, as Mr. Beck suggests? It’s hard not to think of the retort of the great apostle of social justice, Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife, ‘When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.’ ”
Mr. Beck himself is a convert to Mormonism, a faith that identifies itself as part of the Christian family, but which is nevertheless rejected by many Christians. Two Mormon scholars said in interviews that social justice is integral to Mormon teaching too.
Kent P. Jackson, associate dean of religion at Brigham Young University, said in an interview: “My own experience as a believing Latter-day Saint over the course of 60 years is that I have seen social justice in practice in every L.D.S. congregation I’ve been in. People endeavor with all of our frailties and shortcomings to love one another and to lift up other people. So if that’s Beck’s definition of social justice, he and I are definitely not on the same team.”
Philip Barlow, the Arrington Professor of Mormon History and Culture at Utah State University, said: “One way to read the Book of Mormon is that it’s a vast tract on social justice. It’s ubiquitous in the Book of Mormon to have the prophetic figures, much like in the Hebrew Bible, calling out those who are insensitive to injustices.
“A lot of Latter-day Saints would think that Beck was asking them to leave their own church.”
Mr. Barlow said that Mr. Beck’s comments were particularly ill-timed because just this year, the church’s highest authority, the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, issued a new “Handbook of Instructions” to church leaders in which they revised the church’s “three-fold mission” and added a fourth mission statement: care for the poor.
by Legend In Your Own Mind on March 12th, 2010
What? Social justice has any redeeming quality? You mean that NOT allowing innocent people to rot in prisons is a bad thing? Feeding starving children is such a farce. It must be. Why if those little innocent starving kids want food they should get jobs! There are plenty of sweat shops they can slave in for Bleuck..
Elderly old widows who can't walk really ought to be kicked to curbs.. they might make good asphalt material and why should anyone even remotely care about them anyway? So what they're someones mothers?
You know..It really wouldn't break my heart if Beck someday needed some form of social justice.. That would make the perfect excuse to do as he says.. Tell him to go fuck himself then!
When is primary election day?
by Answerbag Staff on February 27th, 2010
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are you for cutting down defense industries? Or are you into now walking into iran and starting a war there?
by shunyata on February 8th, 2012
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Hypothetical: If the US became a theocratically ruled country, would the government be any less corrupt?
by Anonymous on February 8th, 2012
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Would you vote for a person that said they would work judicially to impose term limits in all offices of election and appointment?
by wiseacre on February 7th, 2012
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How soon do you expect Obama-lauded taxpayer-financed SunPower to crater just like Solyndra and leave taxpayers out $1.2 billion?
by More2Be on February 8th, 2012
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You're about as bright as Beck.. How does it look from the darkest spot in the universe?
by Legend In Your Own Mind on March 12th, 2010
I don't know. Why don't you tell me what it is like where you live.
All that I can say is that every time I have heard someone speak of social justice, they have then proposed socialist policies as the solution to the problems that they see. So, what else am I supposed think about them?
Oh, I would also be careful about judging Beck based on the linked article. I notice that it only includes one short paragraph of what he said and it isn't the complete paragraph. It does not include his reasoning for make that statement. So, you might want to withhold judgment until you see the whole statement in context.
by Glenn Blaylock on March 12th, 2010
I have to almost agree with Legend. I think Beck is fairly intelligent, much more so than the other loony is (Blaylock). I think it is funny, every time I happen upon Beck's show, he is always telling his listeners to research their history. He is always harping on people for blindly accepting the history that the media is shoving down their throats.
What a hypocrite, Beck is. He need only even attempt to open his eyes to his precious Mormon history. The history that he blindly accepts.
by Joseph Smith was a fraud and Eisegete on March 14th, 2010
Have you noticed that none of the answers are really talking about what He said? They are just attacking Beck and people who like him.
by Randoley on March 15th, 2010
As I pointed out above, we don't have a complete record of what he is alleged to have said. All we have is one edited paragraph of what he said. So, it is really hard to discuss what he said when we don't have the full context. However, this does not matter to most of those that have posted on this question. They just have knee-jerk reactions to attack anything that conservatives say.
by Glenn Blaylock on March 15th, 2010
I watch his show daily and what he is saying is right.
by Randoley on March 15th, 2010