by Anonymous on November 26th, 2009

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Is it true mormon "prophesy" says the United States will eventually be the mormon kingdom of Zion and that Joseph Smith said it "Will be that- or the sword"? Does it mean they will kill anyone who doesn't Join them?

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by laie_techie on November 30th, 2009
Twisted, taken out of context, and changed so much I hardly recognize the grain of truth.

There is a prophecy which states that the U.S. Constitution will hang by a thread, and that it will be the elders of the Church who shall save it.

The Church has never endorsed or condoned a "convert or die" mentality.
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- Go to mormonzeitgiest.com and read what an ex- mormon has to say on there. He quotes smith saying a time would come when it would either be the church or the sword. Go read it. I didn't write it though I've heard stranger things from current day mormons. Maybe it's something you've never heard in your church. I'm sure they don't want people talking about it until they are almost ready to take over. When you figure how few people it took for the bolsheviks to take over russia or Hitler to take over most of europe- you can get an idea of how they think it's possible.
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  by Anonymous on December 2nd, 2009
- Anon, I know you didn't write it or make it up. You got it from a whacked-out site. Do not believe everything which is posted on the internet.
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  by laie_techie on December 2nd, 2009
- Oh, but I don't believe it all. But I do believe many of the mormons I've talked to who say some of the same things.
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  by Anonymous on December 3rd, 2009
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by LobsterFang on November 26th, 2009
I'm mormon, and I've never heard anything like that in my life.
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by iDeath on November 26th, 2009
I double dead dog dare them to talk that crap in my neighborhood. Talk is cheap. Mormons are a tiny minority, most men think they are the strongest and bravest. Talk is cheap. Mormons don't knock on doors in my town.
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- Oh gee, it's not nice to scare me like that!
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  by whew4 on November 30th, 2009
- Yeah just like you do in the Temple. Cut my throat will ya?
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  by iDeath on November 30th, 2009
- You just assumed (assume = ass + u + me) that anonymous' question was based on a valid premise?
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  by laie_techie on November 30th, 2009
- I have been to the temple 30 + times.
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  by iDeath on December 1st, 2009
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by whew4 on November 30th, 2009
This is close, but you got off the track after your first word.

There are several prophecies which tells us that the time will come, in the not too far distant future, when the US will become a huge battlefield.

Father's will be fighting and killing their sons and Mothers will be killing their daughters and visa versa.

And mobs will rule neighborhoods, cities and states. Just prior to the coming of Christ.

When that happens everyone who will not take up the sword,(Gun) to defend themselves against their neighbors will have to flee to the Rocky Mountains to seek safety with the Saints in the Salt Lake Valleys.

Our US Government will collapse and the Constitution will hang by a thread. When suddenly the Saints will step forth with a Political organization based on the Constitution and save the country from all other nations wanting to take over our country.

The people of United States will plead to be protected by this new Government set up by the "Mormons".

This organization will not be the Church, and it will not be staffed by "Mormons only, but will have non-Mormons helping to make laws as well.

No one will have to leave their Church, they will be allowed to worship anyway they choose. But this organization,(The Kingdom of God) will ensure everybody's freedom.

And eventually it will rule all the nations of the world, after Christ returns. This is a very short version, but I think you can get the jest of what will happen soon.

You do not have to believe me, but just keep your eyes and ears open, the time for this is not too far distant...Later
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- This sounds an awful lot like Sharia.
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  by Martureo on December 1st, 2009
- Actually, it's interesting you used that term. Because if you go on mormonZeitgiest. com and read the elohim wars, the author likens the mormon plans with Sharia law.
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by Gene H on November 26th, 2009
I wouldn't bat an eyelash in surprise if that were so.
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by Anonymous on November 26th, 2009
The whole story is told on a website called "The Elohim War".
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- Actually the website is Mormonzeitgiest. The story is told on the category called The Elohim War.
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  by Anonymous on November 30th, 2009
- And you actually believe it???
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  by laie_techie on November 30th, 2009
- If it is negative towards the church, Anonymous will believe it. Mormons killed JFK, are trying to take over the US and world economies, are involved with or even run the mob, and currently run Answer Bag. Have I forgotten anything Anonymous?
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  by East Hill on November 30th, 2009
- I was told by a mormon that they were behind the murder of JFK and that they are absolutely trying to take over the country. As far as the mob goes, I knew a non-mormon member of the mafia who said "If all the non-mormons in the mafia knew who all the mormons in it were, they would kill them all in one day".
  
  I talked with a mormon several days ago about them taking over the country and he just chuckled and said "There's nobody who's going to be able to stop us." I tried to get more from him but he wouldn't say another word. Now tell me I'm lying.
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  by Anonymous on December 2nd, 2009
- I think deranged might be a better diagnosis. You suffer from an acute case of MDS (Mormon Derangement Syndrome).
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  by East Hill on December 2nd, 2009
- And I think you a bit deranged to believe smith "translated" the book of abraham from some egyptian funeral papyri. Part of the Biblical separation, I would say.
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  by Anonymous on December 3rd, 2009
- I'm sorry but there's a lot of misinformation and prejudice going on. The LDS Church is a good Christian Church and we are not a criminal group.
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by TenLostTribes on March 15th, 2010
I'm not exactly sure about the U.S. turning into the "Mormon Kingdom" but we do believe that the kingdom of god will spread all over the earth (see Daniel 2:44)--which we interpret to be the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. We do not kill people for not joining the LDS Church--God does not force people to join the LDS Church and neither should we.
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