by N I C K on November 22nd, 2009

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Is lesbianism an abomination to God like gay male activities are (according to the Bible)?

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  • by MRSHINYSHOES on November 22nd, 2009

    MRSHINYSHOES

    According to the Bible, perhaps. According to intelligent thinking and sensibility, no.

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  • by randomness - is now a Maestro on November 22nd, 2009

    randomness - is now a Maestro

    I only recall one part of the bible mentioning lesbianism... It was in Romans:

    1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient


    However, I do believe that it *was* Paul saying that, so I'd take it with a grain of salt.

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  • by Big Dan on November 22nd, 2009

    Big Dan

    Most lesbians I've seen would fall into the category of "undesirables" as far as women go. I consider it a blessing to have them cleaned off the playing field. I don't know what the bible says, this is just my good horse sense.

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  • by Jonathan on November 22nd, 2009

    Jonathan

    There is nothing wrong with lesbianism or being gay for that matter. They are people just like straight people are. The sad truth is most of society is ignorant and intolerable of what their preconceived notions are and blinded by views & opinions ; religious, political, their peers and the way they were brought up. It's a damn shame as far as I'm concerned. +5 Peace, Jonathan

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  • by spock's brain on November 22nd, 2009

    spock's brain

    The suggestion that gay male activities, according to the Bible, are an abomination is far from proven without even touching if lesbians are also.

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  • by Moongrim on November 22nd, 2009

    Moongrim

    Eating Shellfish is an abomination to God. The Bible states so quite clearly.

    http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/

    The bible is a bit murky when it comes to man on man.

    And says nothing about lesbians.

    The "vile affections" mentioned- is a strictly circular argument.

    Someone decided that vile affections means something they don't like so they decided it must mean lesbians.

    But the bible does say quite clearly that: "it is good for a man to not touch a woman".
    1 Cor. 7:1.

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  • by Djinn on November 22nd, 2009

    Djinn

    No, though this may sound harsh I am talking from a place of complete logic not emotion; also I in no way condone rape.

    However it social & biblical issue with gayness is the fact that it is counter productive to procreation. The bible gives clear examples of God going so far as to kill men that pull out when they are suppose to be getting women pregnant.

    The cold hard truth of the matter is that if the men of the world decided to all become gay tomorrow we would be extinct within two generations but if all the women in the world decided to become lesbians men could over power and force reproduction for the sake of human survival. It's just not as much of a threat.
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  • by Kat on November 22nd, 2009

    Kat

    Noooo.

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  • by SanityClause on December 10th, 2009

    SanityClause

    This will blow your mind:
    (From 1 Samuel)
    "The soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul ... And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his garments ... and his girdle." 18:1-4
    "Jonathan ... delighted much in David." 19:2
    Saul is angered by his son's homosexual affair with David and says, "do not I know that thou has chosen the son of Jesse to thine own confusion of thy mother's nakedness?" 20:30
    Saul is a good example for Christian parents that discover that they have a homosexual child: try to kill the child and his or her lover. 20:31-33
    David and Jonathan "kissed one another, and wept with one another" when they parted for the last time. 20:41

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  • by Slap Daddy on December 10th, 2009

    Slap Daddy

    No lesbianism is beautiful and natural but only if they are hot. unlike guys wanting another guys hairy ass.

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  • by Anonymous on November 22nd, 2009

    Anonymous

    I'm not of the opinion that "gay male activities" are an abomination, so the premise of your question is shifty from the word go.

    God created us all - gay and straight alike.

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  • by Conor on November 22nd, 2009

    Conor

    No, Because all religion is fairy tales and people can choose who they love it is their life and decision.

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  • by Regina on November 22nd, 2009

    Regina

    Yes it is....Woman was created for Man and to mutiply. I have never heard of a woman impregnating another woman by natural means.

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  • by Grant aka Guybrush Threepwood on November 22nd, 2009

    Grant aka Guybrush Threepwood

    being a lesbian is still being gay, so yes.

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  • by Vaporeongirl on November 22nd, 2009

    Vaporeongirl

    Yes, according to the bible there is no difference between homosexual and lesbian activities. Both are wrong.

  • by Theophilous on December 10th, 2009

    Theophilous

    I am sorry to have to post this in the answer section, but my comments on a previous answer are not posting properly.

    In reply to Spock’s Brain answer

    The suggestion that gay male activities, according to the Bible, are an abomination is far from proven without even touching if lesbians are also.

    Really? So the following verses do not prove that those acts are considered an abomination?

    Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

    Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death ; their blood [shall be] upon them.

    Romans 1:26-27 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    Romans 1:31-32 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    1 Corinthian 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

    This seems to clearly indicate what the opinion of God is towards such actions. If you have a different opinion, then recognize that you are setting yourself up as superior in judgment to God. That is not an enviable position to take when one considers your position in the afterlife.

    You may now downgrade my answer in your objection to the truth of God’s word.

  • by Theophilous on December 10th, 2009

    Theophilous

    I am sorry to have to post this in the answer section, but my comments on a previous answer are not posting properly.

    In reply to Sanity Clause’s comment to my previous answer

    This will blow your mind:
    (From 1 Samuel)
    "The soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul ... And Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him, and gave it to David, and his garments ... and his girdle." 18:1-4
    "Jonathan ... delighted much in David." 19:2
    Saul is angered by his son's homosexual affair with David and says, "do not I know that thou has chosen the son of Jesse to thine own confusion of thy mother's nakedness?" 20:30
    Saul is a good example for Christian parents that discover that they have a homosexual child: try to kill the child and his or her lover. 20:31-33
    David and Jonathan "kissed one another, and wept with one another" when they parted for the last time. 20:41

    Hi Sanity Clause,

    Actually it doesn’t blow my mind. However your interpretation of what is described is incorrect.

    With regard to 1 Sam 18:1-4. The incident in question took place after David brought back the head of Goliath to Saul. The conferring of garments is a way of honoring or rewarding someone. To give garments that were the personal tokens of the king or of the royal family is an especially high honor. In an earlier quote, 1 Sam 17:38-39 Saul gave him his own armor and shield as a sign that he had Saul’s blessing and authority to fight Goliath in single combat.

    We see in 1 Sam 18:1 that Jonathan and David became very good friends. We see in 1 Sam 18:2 That Saul took David to become a member of the royal household. In the full quote from 1 Sam 18:4 we see that “Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was upon him; and gave it to David, and his garments, even to his sword, and to his bow and to his girdle.” In doing so he was signifying that David was favored by the heir to the royal line. He had the trust of the royal family in that they not only allowed him to be armed in their presence, but that they trusted him sufficiently to have him bear their personal arms.

    This honoring does not imply a homosexual relationship, but rather a deep and abiding friendship.

    You assert that 1 Sam 20:31-33 shows that Saul tried to kill David for having a homosexual affair with his son Jonathan. But in earlier chapters we see the real reason for Saul’s anger. In chapter 18, when David returns from slaughtering the Philistines the crowd sings of Saul killing his thousands, but David killing tens of thousands.

    1 Sam 18:8-9 “And Saul was very wroth, and the saying displeased him: and he said, They have ascribed unto David ten thousands, and to me they have ascribed but thousands’ and what can he have more, but the kingdom? And Saul eyed David from that day and forward.”

    Thus we see that the wrath of Saul was not because of any homosexual relationship, but because Saul thought David represented a threat to the continuation of his line as king of Israel.

    As for 1 Sam 20-41, it is not unusual in middle eastern countries, even to this day for men to kiss each other at greetings or partings. When Judas greeted Jesus in the garden to betray him, the kiss was not one of homosexuality. It was and is a common cultural practice without sexual significance.

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