by socratus on November 15th, 2009

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What does Religion expect from modern Science?

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  • by socratus on November 18th, 2009

    socratus

    ‘ QT . . . ,we do not understand the theory as fully as we should.
    We shall see in what follows that important interpretative
    issues remain unresolved. They will demand for their
    eventual settlement not only physical insight but also
    metaphysical decision ’.
    / ‘ Quantum theory’ by John Polkinghorne /
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Polkinghorne
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    So, maybe, Aristotle was right separating the knowledge
    of Nature on two parts: Physics and Metaphysics.
    ==== .
    Socratus.

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  • by socratus on November 17th, 2009

    socratus

    John Polkinghorne and his book ‘ Quantum theory’.
    === .
    I like to read his books because they raise many questions.
    And these questions give information for brain to think.
    John Polkinghorne took epigraph of his book ‘ Quantum theory’
    the Feynman’s thought : ‘ I think I can safely say that
    nobody understands quantum mechanics. ‘
    Why?
    Because, he wrote:
    ‘ ,we do not understand the theory as fully as we should.
    We shall see in what follows that important interpretative
    issues remain unresolved. They will demand for their
    eventual settlement not only physical insight but also
    metaphysical decision ’.
    / preface/
    ‘ Serious interpretative problems remain unresolved,
    and these are the subject of continuing dispute’
    / page 40/
    ‘ If the study of quantum physics teaches one anything,
    it is that the world is full of surprises’
    / page 87 /
    ‘ Metaphysical criteria that the scientific community take
    very seriously in assessing the weight to put on a theory
    include: . . . .’
    / page 88 /
    ‘Quantum theory is certainly strange and surprising, . . .’
    / page92 /
    ‘ Wave / particle duality is a highly surprising and
    instructive phenomenon, . .’
    / page 92 /

    Togetherness.
    John Polkinghorne, as a realist, want to know
    ‘ what the physical world is actually like’, but until now
    physicists don’t have the whole picture of Universe.
    And in my opinion John Polkinghorne was right writing
    what to understand the problems of creating the Universe:
    ‘ They will demand for their eventual settlement not only
    physical insight but also metaphysical decision ’.
    === .
    Best wishes.
    Israel Sadovnik. Socratus.

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  • by bagicide stayed 10 months too long on November 15th, 2009

    bagicide stayed 10 months too long

    I can't speak for all people of all religions, but I expect it to stay science: a tool for study, and refrain from becoming a religion unto itself: a statement of belief.

    I have to laugh when I see someone on here state with perfect sincerity that they believe more in science than in religion. To believe in science is to turn it into a religion.

    No matter how far science progresses, there will always be unknowable things. To believe that science will figure everything out someday is also to turn it into a religion. Science deals in hard facts, things that are knowable and quantifiable. It can ask questions about what it doesn't know. It can study what it doesn't know. It adds to knowledge every day. But it doesn't deal in belief. In fact, belief can hamper the process of doing good science, because it can lead you to skew your results to fit your beliefs.

    No matter how far science progresses, it doesn't deal with why or with meaning. It isn't set up to do that. You cannot do more than speculate about why something happens, except in the case of something hard and fast like chemical attractions or things of that nature. There is much speculation and political agenda that passes for science, but that doesn't stand up to scrutiny under the rules of science.

    Let science be science and let God be God.

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