Is it just me or does it seem like white people never win when it comes to racism?

Im not sure what you mean "never win" but blacks, mexicans, etc have systematically and historically been the underdog and can't be racist if you are the oppressed in the first place, but thats not to say we have free reign to say whatever.

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You can certainly be a racist even if you are oppressed. Racist means you make a judgment about someone because of their race. Oppressed people are certainly capable of doing that.
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by LynfromNM on November 1st, 2009
I mean that it seems like white people are accused of racism more than anyone else. That's all. It sometimes gets to me because I am white and I do not consider myself racist at all. At the same time, I realize that it may only seem this way to me because I *am* white. With this question, I'm hoping to realize that I'm wrong.
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
Well as a black person my perspective is that alot of blacks and minorities that I talk to regarding the whole racism thing agree that minorites cant be racist, perhaps prejudice but not racist. I mean really how many white folks do you hear saying "damn that cop pulled me over cuz I'm white", or "I bet if I was black I would've gotten that promotion" I do agree that people can be prejudice and bigots irregardless of their race. But racism is a discrimination afforded by the majority -NOT minority - I am not saying that is fair, but try being black and you'd get it
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by Icognegro on November 1st, 2009
I've actually seen cases where the black person just wasn't following the rules and got mad and said things like "It's because I'm black, isn't it?" AT SCHOOL, even if white people were treated the same way in the exact same situation. It's annoying. No, it's not because they were black. It's because they broke the rules. I don't say "It's because I'm white, isn't it?" because that's not the case. It's because I didn't follow whatever rule was in place. I'm not ignorant enough to say that racism doesn't exist, but I am saying that there are times when it's just inappropriate and out of place for somebody to say those things.
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
Being objective, all I'm telling you is that ANYONE can be a racist, whether they are in the majority or the minority. ANYONE who makes judgments and decisions based on race is by definition a racist.
Subjectively, I have a friend who strongly believes she keeps being passed over for law school admission because she is white. And there are any number of employers who, all else being equal will hire a minority candidate over a white person.
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by LynfromNM on November 1st, 2009
I agree that happens and it really discredits the true injustices that occur for myself in paticular. I mean obviously if you cut in line and the lunch moniter says "hey go to the back of the line" there is no need to call the NAACP or Jesse Jackson, or say it's cuz i'm black. Rules are rules. The fact that you acknowledge racism exists means that you are aware of true events that are racist. I get harrassed sometimes it's blatent, other times subtle and I really make sure I am seeing the situation from a birds eye veiw if I am uncertain. And it can really fu!k someone up from ever acheiving anything with that mentality
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by Icognegro on November 1st, 2009
@Lyn: I forgot about that, Lyn. Are you talking about "affirmative action"?
@Blacktastic: I have no argument for you on this one. You clearly know what you are talking about. :)
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
Lyn has her head in the sand. If any race can be racist why is it necessary to use terms like reverse racism anyhow? And Jim Crow wasnt some fairytail. And affirmative action is not why your friend was passed up for law school she probably just needs to step her game up and quit making excuses- Not trying to be rude but if people would look at affirmative action vs statistics minorities account for a very small percentage of the population in the us. It does is equal the playing field for that percentage to not be denied equal opportunities as we had been in the past. We live in a country where not too long ago it was accepted for "whites only" signs to hang in business. Tell your friend to watch eyes on the prize and quit whining and study harder --
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by Icognegro on November 1st, 2009
Well argued, Blacktastic.
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Regarding the prejudice/racism issue, though, I am with Lyn here - if we go by the definitions of prejudice/racism, it is absolutely possible for a minority to be both prejudiced and racist, in that it is absolutely possible for non-whites to make discriminatory generalizations about whites and to act on them. BUT it is nowhere near the same thing as white/oppressor discrimination against minorities/oppressed. When a white person is being discriminated against, he/she really loses nothing (except maybe their temper) because they're still at the "top." When non-whites are being discriminated against, because they are members of an institutionally oppressed minority, there is real damage done to that person both as an individual and as a race.
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by quack is whack on November 1st, 2009
Racism of course has more damaging effects upon the oppressed than it does on the oppressor. Nevertheless, no matter who it is making generalizations about others on the basis of race, it is always racism. Racism of any kind is wrong because it leads to false conclusions and hatred, no matter who it is directed at.
Biologically of course there is ONE RACE only, and that is homo sapiens, or humans. If we were different races it would be impossible to interbreed.
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by LynfromNM on November 1st, 2009
I am copying and pasting something from my answer (I edited the last bit in Loving, Quack, and Lynn):
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"Minorities are more likely to experience destructive effects of racism due to being in the minority. That kind of comes along with being in any minority group.
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However, if a white is a minority somewhere (say, Detroit's inner city schools), they are doubly f*cked because not only do they get the destructive racism but they get called "racist" if they complain.
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Minorities, being minorities, taken cumulatively, experience more destructive racism but to deny that whites get it is incorrect. It depends completely on where you live and who is the majority and who is the minority."
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I do not know you to know if this would be an issue to you, Blacktastic, but I wish to point out that I am not white, rather from a quite disliked tiny minority group. I am just stating my observation.
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
You know, I worked in a major midwest retail store. In the layaway department. A black employee was shopping, on company time, and came back to me, wanting me to 'hold' her items until she got off work. I refused, as it was against company policy. She came back with "You just don't want to because you are prejudiced! You don't want to do for me because I'm BLACK!!"
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I replied to her, "You are right, I am prejudiced. I dislike stupid people. I have various ethnicities, religions, and more in my family. What you want can get ME fired. Your self importance is not worth my job."
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Security was actually monitoring it. She threatened me (wait till you get off work, B*tch) and was fired.
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My point is, if you can say 'white people don't get treated like this! YOU are showing racism. You are grouping all of the white population together. Blacktastic, you may be a minority, you may ask your friends whatever, but you show, in your comments, exactly what you say you 'can't be.'
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by Keysha on November 1st, 2009
When I was growing up in the 70's, we (minorities) had no voice. To this day my people have no voice. Flat out, we were screwed... ignored if we complained, the racism piling deeper. I know for a fact due to hearing the stories that we have no voice today.
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I do not know if nowadays other minorities than mine have recourse in school. I have heard that they do to varying degrees but do not quote me on that because, well, I am not growing up now. I DO know that some have recourse at the workplace.
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Anyone who claims that minorities are not racist, just, er, "prejudiced," is being illogical. That is a contradictory statement. Wherever the term reverse racism came from it is incorrect. What is called "reverse racism" is just plain racism.
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Whites and minorities, including mine, can be equally racist.
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
Er, I meant racism against any minorities in the 70's was ignored, the racism piling deeper if any of us complained. My people are still in this boat today.
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
Yep. Anyone can be racist. It doesn't depend on whether you're part of a minority or a majority group. It depends on you. I know this is an extreme comparison, but is murder not murder if a minority group commits it on a majority group? Of course it's still murder and if the minority group denies that, it's not helping them.
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
Okay so LovingLife your analogy equating murder with race is completely absurd. No offense but murder is irreversable, and physco behavior. Racism is generally propelled by fear and usually taught or is fed by a superiority complex.. There are intelligent people that are racist too - And it's not about denial for blacks or me in paticular to feel a minorities group cannot be deemed racist - I say this because look at society, we see Chris Rock say some pretty effed up jokes about whites and we laugh ..hard. And then Kramer from Sienfield gets on stage and yells out the N word and his career is over and he is critisized. Does anyone ever think this "doublestandard" may be due to the fact that there are no racist words that a black person can really call white people- The last time I used the word Cracker it did not illicit the same damage as the N word. My white friends tell me this too. Racism is something our white founding fathers built this country on, it was institutionalized and written into the constitution. Blacks are still struggling to achieve equal stature and just dont have the power or stature in the Nation to be racist.
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
Here is an example of some insults that I have heard of white people that I would be offended by:
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"you racist white f*ck"
"damn Nazi"
"white trailer trash"
"go burn a cross on somebody's lawn"
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Those are insults against whites that I have heard used against whites. Cracker, honky, and so forth are, I would think, rather bland compared to the insults I listed. Those I listed are horrid. I am certain that there are more of the level I listed but, not being white, I do not hear them against me.
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That guy from Seinfeld got in trouble for attacking the everloving bejeesus out of his audience. Have you seen the clip? Good Gods he went stark raving insane on that guy.
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You do not expect to see that out of that guy. If you go to a Chris Rock show you expect him to take the mick out of whites and everyone else. He also does not lose his cool.
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The people that guy from Seinfeld attacked had NO clue this was going to happen and it was obviously the guy going mental.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
First, comedians like Cris Rock get 'acclaim' for their jokes because if whites complained, they would be shouted down by the blacks because it 'oppresses' their freedom of speech. The black 'minority' in the USA is the most vocal, even if they do not have the numbers.
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The fact that you believe 'cracker' is not as 'infuriating' shows racism. *I* find it highly offensive. But, because you are racist, you don't understand that any white would. As far as the oppressed cannot be effective at promoting racism, first, blacks, for the most part, are NOT oppressed in this country any more. Notice, I said FOR THE MOST PART. I did not say all, as you do with whites.
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Second, where does it say that racism has to be promoted or effective, in the main. ONE person being racist will effect one or more people. Don't think so? What if one person burned a cross on the lawn of a black person? It affects the whole community.
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Yet, because you don't want to see it, you make excuses. Here is the facts:
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You are, indeed, racist.
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by Keysha on November 2nd, 2009
Racism against minorities is, indeed, institutionalized, has happened over a bloody long time, and has not stopped to this day.
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Does that invalidate, say, a white sophomore in an inner city Detroit school, 90% black, who faces racism JUST as much as I did as one of 7-8 minorities in a school of 1800? Said white student, IF they speak out about it, is going to be laughed at or worse. Today guns are plentiful in school so this hypothetical white sophomore is in more physical danger than I was.
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Does the fact that minorities still undergo institutionalized racism make this sophomore's trials and tribulations less important?
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
For over a century there were actual anti-Gypsy laws in America. If you do not believe me... ask. Most are now null and void if they have the word "Gypsy" in them, however, the ones that do not allow our traditional lifestyle are on the books. The direct anti Gypsy laws were only RECENTLY rendered null and void.
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Does that and the part of in the Constitution you mentioned invalidate whites who experience racism? Does that invalidate the sophomore described above?
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Does any of that give us, of the minority populace, the right to be racist towards whites? Do whites have the right to be racist towards us?
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No. Each racist is a cur. Excusing racism, on either side, is vile. White racists say, amongst other things, "they act like that, they deserve it." Minority racists say "we have been oppressed, we have the right."
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NO.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
I see that you rewrote to take out the constitution reference.
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No matter. My points are still valid.
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I am just pointing that out so people know that I was discussing something in your comment.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Okay Keysha pump your brakes, I will say this once I am not racist. In fact I hate to use this defense, but date primarily whites :) I am just looking at what is being said here and it seems as if the word prejudice is being transposed for racism. I do not go around calling people cracker - I merely used that as an example of a situation where I got called the N word and that was my rebuttle. It really lacks the same magnitude was my argument. There was no mock burial for that derogatory word as the NAACP did the N word. And yes Kramer did go crazy and Chris Rock is calm. BUt never the less it speaks volumes that even white a talk show host must be careful about being PC because of this nations history on racism targeted towards blacks.
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
How does "prejudice" not equate "racism"?
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I want to hear this.
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Racism is targeted towards blacks only? Not any other minority? No whites are targeted? That hypothetical sophomore is not a target of racism?
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I want to be absolutely clear of your position so I ask, in order:
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1) how, exactly, does prejudice not equal racism?
2) are blacks the ONLY targets of racism in this nation... nobody else?
3) on a personal note, I, myself, have never experienced racism?
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Arisztid in a Coat - I think you do have a valid point if racism and bigotry were written into the constitution it means that those groups experienced defacto racism. The same kind the Hitler imposed on the Jews. This doesnt however mean there will anytime soon be a defacto pratice towards their equality or even any minorite group. Anglo's and I speak generally, are not going to make the arguement that they are racially profiled or have the same racial barriers blacks have, that is the group I am speaking about
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
Hitler targeted two people in the Final Solution itself, killing each equally: Jews and Gypsies. I can back this up with fact. I just said that because it is a common misconception... no animosity towards you.
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I have seen a few whites say that they are facing, or going to face, the same barriers that blacks face. However, they are very few. Most never make such a claim.
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I do not remember the part of the Constitution you describe but think that it would only apply to blacks. However, that does not eliminate or invalidate the racism anyone else goes through. Here is a compilation answer of mine describing a bit of what I go through:
http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/5215912
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I am not saying this to whine but to say that not only blacks face it as badly as blacks.
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Another example is that white sophomore, in her school years, faces it just as badly as any black person. She is hypothetical but there are many real students like her.
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Would you have the quote about blacks in the Constitution? I keep things like that.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Oh I thank you for listening to me and thinking about my words. :)
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Okay I will answer In order -

1) how, exactly, does prejudice not equal racism?

Well for one prejudice (dictionary lol) .An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
b.A preconceived preference or idea.
By that assesment I can be prejudice towards mexican music ...and love the food, and people. OR I can be prejudice towards a political party, for instance if I say hated democrats for the liberal stance ..NOW Racism is a complete hatred of ..hmm RACE...were not talking about pizza crust or music.

2) are blacks the ONLY targets of racism in this nation... nobody else?

Nope I think blacks get hit the hardest it might be a tossup with Native Americans (hence many of thier tribes genocide) followed by most of the other brown races

3) on a personal note, I, myself, have never experienced racism?
I don't know that you have experienced racism ..your definition is rather loose concerning it. May have been prejudice -
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
I shall reply in order:
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1) prejudice, in the context we are using it in, is referencing prejudice towards humans, almost always negative. Prejudice, itself, is neutral: pre judge. Negative prejudice towards a group of people, whatever group, is racism, which is acting out against a group because of, well, prejudices.
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I used my prejudice towards coffee to decide to drink it rather than soda. That is neutral. If I use my prejudice to think badly of a ethnicity/race, it falls into racism. Racism can be both a thought and an act. An act, of course, is much worse than a thought.
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2) Ok and thankyou. Historically, I think Native Americans have had it the worse, then blacks. That is historical, however, and does not invalidate what others have gone through. Non blacks, today, go through as much as blacks... today.
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3) here is a link describing what I have been through. I leave you to judge for yourself:
http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/5215912
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Please click the links in that. It is a compilation answer.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Okay well, I think that you are in fact a victim of racism. Is this because of your skin color or some false stigma associated with Gypsies is the question. I know that Gypsies can be any race, these days. And the harsh comments seemed to bash the stereotypes involved with your culture. I have seen crazy things in my day. I have even opened this guy I dated eyes to racism because before me he was just this white guy with rose colored glassed unaware racism existed. It was'nt until he experienced PREJUDICE because of me that he connected the dots. And to address the white chick in a perdominatly black schools frustration of the system seem like a cycle that was passed onto her. She was outnumbered in that situation. Do non whites experience racism..I still have to say no. That girl may have seen the repricussions of what this society has created, which is division and distrust in some NOT all circumstances. But that prejudice she encountered was rooted far back in the days of Thomas Jefferson
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
False stigma associated with Gypsies.
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Gypsies cannot be any race. Rromani Gypsies are a distinct genetic ethnicity with DNA markers unique to us. There are other ethnicities called "Gypsy," some related to us, some not. One link of a kazillion proving genetics:
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2350/2/5
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However, I am using myself as an example. I am also using the white sophomore as an example.
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Regarding that girl... does the frustration of the other students invalidate the racism perpetrated on her? Does the racism minorities experience because of preconceptions invalidate the racism we experience?
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Does it matter to each victim of racism WHY they are victims of racism? Yes, there are factors. Do they make one racism worse than the other? Should not racism against all parties, no matter why it began, be condemned and an attempt made to extinguish it?
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
If you met that girl eye to eye, would you shrug off her pain and, most likely, bruises? Would you shrug off what she has been through because of what blacks have been through?
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Is her pain less valid for any reason?
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Or would you look at that girl and want to help her.
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The prejudice my people experience has been rooted in many, many, many centuries. We were enslaved in Romania for 500 years, ending in the mid 1850's. When we were freed, we were given a boot to our asses and are, at this time, undergoing another genocidal massacre in EU. Yes I have proof to back up what I say.
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My point in saying that is not whining. I say that to preface this:
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Despite slavery (that was not the only time, just the most recent), genocide, etc. I do not say that anyone else is more deserving of racism than myself.
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If you dig into the past of ANY ethnicity, you shall find atrocities perpetrated upon them.
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Are you saying that anyone deserves racism more than blacks?
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Okay dude, I get you. I understand what you are saying, I am even curious to know more about Gypsie ethnicities and authenticity...Okay so here is where I am at honestly after a life long belief. A belief in part indoctrined by my mother and most of my family. One -
Blacks can be racist, perhaps the heirachy of it all aside this cannot be denied
TWO - is that I am probably wondering why now it has been so important for me to never acknowledge that people who arent black/brown ever feel the repricussions of racism. We both agreed right away the different reasons and severity of it.
#3 - I am not sure yet, I really only am allowing myself to be empathetic to whites being subjected to racism now
#4 IF you have ever watched that stupid show on MTV called PuNKD - I think i just got punked lol
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
what just happened..hmm My mom is has very strong convictions regarding this. SHE also has much more facts to draw upon and is makes one helluva arguement or debate if you will. I am dying to know where she would stand after talking to you..
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
I have written a basic "what is" essay about my people if you are interested:
http://proudromani.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-is-gypsy.html
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Our genetics:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1235543/
Genetic identification as Rroma of a 1000 year old corpse (we came to Britain about 500 years ago)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1617141/
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1) re blacks being able to be racist: we all are.
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2) most blacks I have known do not deny that whites experience racism. I have no clue why you were taught this. I have heard it before and did not understand it then as well.
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3) Just the beginning of empathizing with whites is a start. Considering that you have experienced #2 above, I am not surprised that this is new to you.
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4) I have not watched television since 2003 so, no. I think that the fact that you are considering a different view is admirable.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
From what I have seen, it is harder to convince older people of a diametrically opposite point of view. After all, they have lived with their current one a LOT longer than we have. I am more set in my ways at 47 than I was at 17, for instance.
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What I suggest is take what I say, what she says, any other information you gather on the topic. Then sit down, break it down in your mind and form your own conclusion.
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Whatever conclusion you reach shall be a more informed conclusion.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Well that Arisztid, Its probably a good thing you don't watch tv wow since 2003. I have been weening myself off of it, and by golly my veiws of the world couldnt be anymore different without the biased agendas being shoved down my throat. But that show punkd is basically this young guy that pranks celebrities into thinking a false scenario is really unfolding. And then he reveals after they make a fool out of themselves that it was all a prank and they just been PUnkd. I know you are dying to get to a tv now lol. But knowledge is power and now I can see that perhaps its something blacks need to hold onto (non white racism) in order to justify their negative perspectives they carry as if they are some how justified. As for my mom she is 65 and very set in ways, I am 27 alot more pliable given the proper information and being able to see things in a new light is a relief. Hatred is hatred irregardless of dispostion or historical facts, it all lead to more racism and hatred black or white
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
Thanks for the links I will check them out, lest I call some Gypsie something insulting by accident lol. But really that just isnt taught in school, so I will have to educate myself on your people
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
I have heard that television has become even more vapid since I have turned it off. I only miss a few programs.
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Biased agendas are going to be shoved down your throat even if you shut it off. You are going to get them from friends, family, acquaintances, people treating you badly due to racism or other bigotry, see it online (AB has LOTS of it), and much more.
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Oh Gods no, I would rather shoot myself than be on TV!
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I believe that ALL knowledge is power. Even bad information, if you break it down and learn from it, can turn into good knowledge.
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My father taught me to take what he taught me, break it down in my mind, learn everything else I could about whatever, break IT down, and form my own conclusions. I have followed that advice my entire life.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
And... bingo. :) Now I have been leading you towards that one I admit. Guess what: whites who are this way cling to negative perceptions of minorities, lumping us in as "all," to validate THEIR prejudices.
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Here is the catch: neither "need" to... they just FEEL like they "need" to. It is not a survival skill, it is not useful. The need is false.
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"Hatred is hatred irregardless of dispostion or historical facts, it all lead to more racism and hatred black or white"... you took the words right out of my mouth. I am glad to let you do so.
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I am not easily offended... if you call me something wrong, I am not going to get bent. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. The penultimate site about us is:
http://www.synthetic.clara.co.uk/patrin/
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
I saw some of things youve been called an can acertain youve got rather thick skin. I will keep asking questions until I the wall of confusion can become some wisdom hopefully - thanks for the link. Need is interesting I tend to see that word used in every mishape but its true. Its a bit disturbing that I feel/felt that I should put my and my ppls trials/tribulation on a pedalstal and then kinda shrug off many other ppls situations such as yours for instance, really never occurred to me as I guess even real i suppose ?!?!.. Yikes that is the truth I had believed to be at least , very wierd and self loathing to a certain degree - But that is interesting what u said ..lumping us in as "all," to validate THEIR prejudices. Your father gave good advice
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
" I will keep asking questions until I the wall of confusion can become some wisdom hopefully"...
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... THAT is how you learn. I intend to keep doing it until I die. The big thing is that now you have more information about this whole issue.
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My father was a grand man. My mother, by the way, died birthing me. I feel like I knew her because he kept her alive in our lives.
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Black people who do this hold onto their past and their negative perceptions of white people. White people who do this tout various nasties about black people ("look at the CRIME rate" without understanding socioeconomics for example). Both groups use different tools to do the SAME thing. Groups who use "all Gypsies are criminals" are, likewise, doing the SAME thing. Etc.
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Want a giggle? This is an example of how I deal with stupid Gypsy questions:
http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/4938537
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Well here is the reason my sister had just replied to me after I posed the question can blacks be racist:
Please, blacks cannot be racist! Last time checked, black people weren't in a position of power that enables them to discriminate and segregate themselves from others, promoting a superiority belief along the way. You can't be racist if you're fighting for equal opportunity, wages, education, justice, etc.
YOu see this is going to be a battle, but hey if my mind can be opened to something different maybe she as well -
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
That is good you can gather good from that situation about your mother, sorry to hear that.
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
Here would be my rebuttal:
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You do not need to be in a position of power to be racist. Your position does not dictate if YOU are racist. Racism is only from within YOU. The ability to act on racism is affected by positions of power. What is inside a person's mind is not affected.
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You can be racist if you are fighting for equal opportunity... you do not have as much physical effect but what is in your heart does not change.
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Remember that prejudice against people is almost always negative. Hence, in my eyes, that is racism because racism is thinking ill of "all" of [whoever] or more of your own ethnicity.
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Yes, it is going to be a battle but you, my friend, are a strong young Lady. You showed me that by giving my words any credence.
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I am blessed in that, despite my mother having passed when she did, I truly feel that I knew her. Thankyou most kindly. :)
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Blacks aren't in a position of power? Don't you think the situation has changed somewhat with the election of a president with an African ancestor?
I want to thank and congratulate the participants in this thread because this is a discussion we should be having in our workplaces, neighborhoods, places of worship and seats of government. Although the participants here are passionate and invested, they are listening to each other as well.
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by LynfromNM on November 2nd, 2009
This explains more about how I was raised:
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"Have you ever been discriminated against? how did you feel about it and what did you do about it? "
http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/8152374
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Amen Lyn! This sort of thing needs to NOT be glossed over in the workplace, neighborhood, etc.
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I, too, think this is a great thread.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
Yeah very much so a good thread that has me looking at things in different perspective, and my head is hard as a oak tree lol
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by Icognegro on November 2nd, 2009
Mine too. :P
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Thank YOU for listening to me.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009

Sounds accurate to me, Ari.
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by LynfromNM on November 1st, 2009
Thank you for understanding what I'm trying to say. :)
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
Thankyou both. :)
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I tried to cover all sides of what I thought you were trying to ask, Loving Life. I am glad I succeeded. :)
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
You're welcome. :)
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I appreciate that. :)
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
I try to be objective at all times, succeeding, I think, more often than not with a 2.78% possibility of error (I also make up statistics on the spot).
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I read other comment threads, Loving Life, and have seen you get nailed. I just wanted to say that I am not white. :) I am from a tiny minority group that is generally quite disliked.
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
We've met on here before. I used to be AnonymousGirl. :)
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
Well hello there! Pleased to see you again. :) Glad to see the new name.
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
You too. Me too. I'm a lot happier now. I'm also with a new guy. :D How have you been?
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
Good deal. :) Eh, I am living and still with Keysha. I expect that last bit to be for the rest of my life.
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
Yep. That's awesome. :)
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
We think so. :)
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My old Ragged cat is also still going strong. Last we spoke, I believe, he was still recovering from hemobartinella. Not only has he made a full recovery but he continues to get better despite being about 18 years old. He has kitty crazies daily, eats well, etc. The only problem is he is going blind in his sighted eye (the other was blind when I found him).
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Oh, I got one of the most heart wrenching answers today about that very topic:
http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/8157355
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I am sure that she was searching for information about the disease and found my answer. I hope she comes back to check it.
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
It's awesome to hear that your cat is still going strong. :) That lady is very lucky that you are on here.
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
Frankly I do not think her vet knows what he is doing. I believe he is soaking her for money but transfusions are expensive. Why did he not give that cat a transfusion?? ANY vet worth his salt knows that severe anemia means difficulty breathing. He also, I would bet money, does not know FIA.
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I hope she checks back but, frankly, I think it is too late. :(
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
Hopefully it isn't. She did post the answer very recently as well...
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
I hope so. I would bet that her cat has better body health than Rags... he was skeletal and too weak to even take the stress of a vet visit for 3 weeks. I called the vet and he told me to build him up a bit, deflea him, deworm him, and bring him in when he was stronger. AFTER building him up and GAINING weight, he weighed in at 3.4 lbs at the vets. However, his anemia was not terrible.
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This cat sounds very far along in the anemia... very. His CBC has to be in the toilet for those symptoms. That means the FIA, itself, has been taking a toll on him for a long time. Old age, no teeth, going blind, and the FIA (it causes loss of appetite as one of the symptoms) is what had Rags so down but the FIA had not taken him far into anemia.
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
You're definitely packed with information on this subject, Arisztid. It's hard for me to understand all of this as I've never really been close to a cat who's gone through this. I'm trying to understand, though. :)
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
It is a pretty complex disorder. As far as nursing sick cats, I have been doing that for decades. Rags is not the only almost dead cat that I have brought back.
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by Arisztid on November 2nd, 2009
"We've met on here before. I used to be AnonymousGirl. :)"
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Ah, I was wondering who you are when I saw that you have a user name that I hadn't seen before but have been here for over 3 years and that you're a level 80.
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by Brian on November 2nd, 2009
@Arisztid- :)
@Brian- Well, now you know. :)
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by AnonymousGirl on November 2nd, 2009

I probably should have worded my question better. To me, it seems like white people are accused the most of racism. That's what I meant.
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
Ah, gotcha. Ariztid has an excellent response to that.
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by quack is whack on November 1st, 2009
I agree. :)
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009
Thankyou quack. :)
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
... and Loving Life (that was rude of me).
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by Arisztid on November 1st, 2009
You're welcome. That's alright. :)
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by AnonymousGirl on November 1st, 2009

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