Who follows the King James version of the bible?

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• So is it interchangable? What religious faction follows it? Many christian faiths or just specific one's? +3

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  by Chad1983 on October 22nd, 2009

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• Have you tried the William Tyndale version?It's pretty hard to.

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  by Jesus is God on October 22nd, 2009

• Even harder, but he did use congregation as the King James was not king yet so he had not yet made a rule about translating ecclesia as Church. http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/tyndale/ /././
  http://www.answerbag.co.uk/a_view/5512717

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  by Texasescimo on October 22nd, 2009

• Haven't tryed that version - though I hear it mentioned alot.†††

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  by Anoname on October 23rd, 2009

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• So all christians use the KJV? +3

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  by Chad1983 on October 22nd, 2009

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• But which factions of christians? +3

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  by Chad1983 on October 22nd, 2009

• I wrote that stupid, backspace is my enemy. Meant to right 'still easy to read' I backspaces and left easy in there twice.
  
  As far as I know NASV is applicable to any denominated of Christianity, although Catholicism might be strict KJV. The NASV is translated off the dead sea scrolls, and is considered to be 99% accurate to the hebrew translation, the one percent only being grammical changes that don't change any of the actual meaning. Its the most accurate version of the bible without having to learn Hebrew

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  by Maul on October 22nd, 2009

• In the little bit of research that I have done, I think that the NASB is one of the more accurate translations also. There are some text that are translated according to tradition, that could be translated that way, but the surrounding verses show that the content call for another valid rendering such as John 8:58. It also follows the tradition of substituting LORD for God's name, which make some scriptures confusing like Psalms 110:1. Although it does not translate Sheol and Hades as Hell like some versions do, it does follow the tradition of translating Gehenna as Hell.
  Other than that, I really think it is one of the most accurate.
  http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/7025764 /./
  
  http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/7133378

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  by Texasescimo on October 22nd, 2009

• Chad, Maul, what differences have ya'll noticed in diferent translations?

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  by Texasescimo on October 22nd, 2009

• Usually its just phrasing, using more modern words. The only specific change I can remember which changes the meaning of a verse is some translations read 'Thou Shall not kill' while it sound be (based on the original Hebrew) 'Thou shall not murder', the difference of course being that Murder is never justify, while there could be justifications for killing someone. I believe it came from the greek only having one word for both, but I'm not a scholar so I could be wrong about that.

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  by Maul on October 22nd, 2009

• Good one, most modern versions favor that rendering of murder.
  http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?t=DBY&b=Exd&c=20&v=13&x=36&y=7#vrsn/13

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  by Texasescimo on October 22nd, 2009

• I've noticed most newer vesions try to dumb down the language.
  
  Is this quote accurate?
  
  "And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon
  every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air,
  upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes
  of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving
  thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green
  herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life
  thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat."
  
  Genesis 9:2-4,

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  by Chad1983 on October 23rd, 2009

• As far as I can tell, it looks right to me. Is there a particular word or verse you are questioning?
  
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%209:2-4&version=KJV;YLT;HCSB;DARBY;NASB
  The word Life is from the Henrew "Nephesh" which is often translated as "soul". http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?t=DBY&b=Gen&c=9&v=4&x=35&y=8#conc/4
  http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H5315&t=DBY

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  by Texasescimo on October 23rd, 2009

• I have been arguing with with a vegan for nearly a week on a blog about how she is wrong in her assertions. She said that Christians should support vegeterianism because if Jesus was alive today he would be a vegeterian. I told her she is misleading people, I said Jesus only goes by God's word not the words of theologians, so I posted that verse along with this one.

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  by Chad1983 on October 23rd, 2009

• "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."
  1 Timothy 4:1-3
  
  Then I told her maybe this verse is referring to her and her group. I just wanted to make sure I am not misrepresenting the facts. I don't think it would be right to share something with someone if it is obscure or false.

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  by Chad1983 on October 23rd, 2009

• It didn't deter her. She is an admitted elitist. She said she is better and more refined than everyone because she doesn't eat meat. I despise elitists. She continues to give animals humanistic qualities. It is very frustrating. I wonder if she even knows what she is doing. I mean I am all for freedom and everything but she supports terrorism and speaks of a lack of compassion in the world. She is a walking talking oxymoron. I just try to point it out to everyone trying to agree with her. I am winning right now, but she won't give up. So I can't.

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  by Chad1983 on October 23rd, 2009

• Oh, I see. The word translated as "meats" really just means "food". That being said, meat is still food. According to the Bible, there is nothing wrong with eating meat since the time of the flood. Of course, there were some restrictions for the Jews when they were under the Mosaic law, but even that is no longer in effect. A mature Christian should not have a problem eating meat, at least for biblical reasons, but under certain circumstances it might be respectful to not eat it in front of someone that would be strongly offended. You might see Romans 14:1-17.
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2010:13-15;%20Romans%2014:1-17&version=NASB;KJV;HCSB;DARBY;YLT
  http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Ti&c=4&v=3&t=NASB#vrsn/3
  http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G1033&t=NASB

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  by Texasescimo on October 23rd, 2009

• OK, thank you.

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  by Chad1983 on October 23rd, 2009

• I like how that passage asserts that we all should be free to choose and we should not be judged by our fellow man for our choices. That is the point I keep trying make, although I may be aggressive in my attempts, I try not to judge her, but rather assert my stance on the issue and point out her agenda. Thank you for your guidence on this one.

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  by Chad1983 on October 23rd, 2009

• Your welcome. Sometimes we can get a little upset over things of faith. We just have to remember to seek peace.
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  Personally, while I do try to reason with people of what ever background who honestly inquire or that are willing to listen and reason when approached, I don't think a debate usually gets good results, as most who are prepared to debate are not likely to be inclined to listen. http://bible.cc/acts/17-2.htm /./ http://bible.cc/proverbs/17-14.htm
  
  In his inspired letters to Timothy, the apostle Paul referred to men who fomented “violent disputes about trifles.” Paul described them as “mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words.” (1 Timothy 6:4, 5) He instructed Timothy to “turn down foolish and ignorant questionings, knowing they produce fights,” and to instruct the congregations “not to fight about words, a thing of no usefulness at all.” (2 Timothy 2:14, 23) Much religious debate in our time has fit this description and has proved to be a pointless waste of time.

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  by Texasescimo on October 23rd, 2009

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• When those three contradict the King James, do you go with the King James?

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  by Texasescimo on October 22nd, 2009

• I haven't found any contradictions,they have the same meaning.Just because they are worded different doesn't mean the have a different meaning.Language changes.

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  by Jesus is God on October 22nd, 2009

• You may notice that the others usually either omit late additions (spurious test), or else tell you in a foot note that they were not in older manuscripts. Compare these to the King James (1Tim 3:16, John 3:13, 1John 5:7, 2 Corinthians 13:14, John 1:18) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Tim%203:16,%20John%203:13,%201John%205:7,%202 Corinthians%2013:14,%20John%201:18&version=NASB;NKJV;ESV;AMP;KJV

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  by Texasescimo on October 22nd, 2009

• Same meaning.Thanks for the link,bible gateway is a very good resource.

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  by Jesus is God on October 22nd, 2009

• 1Tim 3:16 King James says "'God' was manifest in the flesh". The older manuscripts say 'he'.
  John 3:13 King James adds "which is in heaven.", the older manuscripts do not have that addition.
  1John 5:7 King James says "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one", the older manuscripts say "For there are three that testify".
  No difference on 2Cor 13:14, I put that in by mistake.

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  by Texasescimo on October 23rd, 2009

• John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." John17:3;1Cor8:5-6;1Cor11:3;John14:28;1Cor15:27-28
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John17:3;1Cor8:5-6;1Cor11:3;John14:28;1Cor15:27-28&version=KJV;NKJV;ESV;NASB;HCSB
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  Did you notice a link between between knowing the Father who is "the only true God" and eternal life? The Trinity did not fully develop until the 4th century and as time passed, verses were added or twisted to suppoert that idea.
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  The 1st century Christians thought that Jesus was the son of God. (John 20:31; Mat 16:15-16; Heb 1:1-2; Mat 14:33; 1John 4:14-15) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2020:31;%20Mat%2016:15-16;%20Heb%201:1-2;%20Mat%2014:33;%201John%204:14-15&version=NASB;NKJV;YLT;ESV;KJV
  John even tells us the reason that those things were written, so that we would believe that Jesus is the Christ, "the son of God".

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  by Texasescimo on October 23rd, 2009

• The truth is out there. We have to pray for Holy Spirit to help our understanding, read with an open mind, and be willing to let go of any preconceived ideas as we find out that they are not really from the Bible. The Bible writers showed that there was to be an apostasy until the time of the end. (Mat 24:11; 2Pet 2:1; 2Tim 4:3-4; 2Cor 4:3-4; 2Thes 2:3) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mat%2024:11;%202Pet%202:1;%202Tim%204:3-4;%202Cor%204:3-4;%202Thes%202:3&version=NASB;YLT;HCSB;DARBY;NLT (1Tim 4:1-3; 2Tim 4:3) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Tim%204:1-3;%202Tim%204:3&version=NASB;KJV;HCSB;DARBY;HCSB
  Acts 17:11 "Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so".
  Daniel 12:4: "And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant."
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  There are older manuscripts such as the Vatican MS 1209 and the Sinaiticus to compare now. http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/7025764
  We are in the time of the end and there are so many resources available now that most that want answers should be able to do research to find out what is true. http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/7133378

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  by Texasescimo on October 23rd, 2009

• Going back to the days of Jonathon Edwards,Charels Haddon Spurgeon,George Whitfiled, and John Calvin is not going back far enough. There were flashes of light that they saw in the dark days of limited Bible reading being allowed, but the truth was not to come back to the fore until the time of the end.
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  Trying to go back to the above mentioned people, (like you state in your profile) who I am sure had good intentions and helped towards the furtherence of the truth, is like the Catholics try to go back to what the suppossed "early Church Fathers" taught.
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  Why not go back to what the Bible writers taught?

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  by Texasescimo on October 23rd, 2009

• So you don't believe Jesus is God?I have a preacher friend who speaks greek and hebrew,and he says they line right up with the old.He also believes Jesus is God.Very brillant man.

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  by Jesus is God on October 23rd, 2009

• http://destinymusic.net/faith/jesusisgod.html

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  by Jesus is God on October 23rd, 2009

• JIG, as sincere as I believe that you are, have you not noticed how many times something like "Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian because they think that Jesus was lying about being God in the flesh". Isn't it odd that the older manuscripts say "he was manifest in the flesh", rather than "God" was manifest in the flesh? Same thing about 1John 5:7. Isn't odd that the Bible never mentions the Trinity, and that trinitarians have to peice together a bunch of scriptures, some of which are additions, some of which can be translated more than one way and usually should be translated differently because of the context, some of which do not contradict the Trinity but don't necesarily support it either? Why do so many recognize that there were things in the 16th and 17th centuries that were not correct, but refuse to go any further in correcting them?
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  In another thread that we had a while back, you had balked at "there are many God's". I don't think that you actually look up all of the scriptures that I cite when we are conversing, or you would have seen where I got that. I usually try to post links to popular translations. There are many God's, but one God the Father. The Father is the only true God. I will quote from the NWT:

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  by Texasescimo on October 23rd, 2009

• (1 Corinthians 8:5-6) For even though there are those who are called “gods,” whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.
  (John 17:3) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
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  If most translators would not follow the tradition of replacing God's name with LORD, I don't think that there would be as much confusion. I know that many say "Sola Scriptura". I don't believe that anyone could read the Bible from Gen 1:1 all the way through Revelation, without a preconceived idea of the Trinity and come up with that on their own. Even reading the King James Version. When I first started studying the Bible with JW's, a friend from work invited me over for icecream. When I got there, he had a friend with him and they had concordances and a couple of translations of the Bible. He complained that JW's add Jehovah at Isaiah 43:11. They handed me the Living Bible and suggested that I started reading from John 1:1. I did alot of research and alot of praying since then. I have found out that however sincere my friend was, he was misled.Please reread the Bible with an open mind.

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  by Texasescimo on October 23rd, 2009

• Are you Jehoavah's witness?I have read the bible and JESUS IS GOD.

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  by Jesus is God on October 23rd, 2009

• ...............

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  by Jesus is God on October 23rd, 2009

• http://www.gotquestions.org/deity-of-Christ.html
  http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Word-God.html

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  by Jesus is God on October 23rd, 2009

• Yes, I am. Didn't Jesus say "my Father is greater than I", at John 14:28? Don't the other scriptures mentioned above show that the Father is the only true God?

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  by Texasescimo on October 23rd, 2009

• Yes,because Jesus for awhile was made LOWER than the angels.Have you not read that?Wow I didn't know you were Jehovah's witness.That explains alot.Have you not read Galatians 1:9?

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  by Jesus is God on October 24th, 2009

• http://www.gotquestions.org/Jehovah-Witness-Christian.html

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  by Jesus is God on October 24th, 2009

• If Jesus isn't God then the bible is one big lie,the link shows if He isn't then there are alot of contradictions.So,whom do I believe the bible,or you?Not a hard answer there.The big one is God sais in Isaiah that He would share His glory with no one.Yet Jesus shared in that glory.So either Jesus was God,or one big liar.That link explains it wonderfully and you need to rethink your stance on your beliefs.This is serious here.Don't go by what you was taught,but what the word of God says,and don't take certain ones out of context to fit what you have been taught.

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  by Jesus is God on October 24th, 2009

• Isaiah 43:11,I am Jehovah and besides me there is no SAVIOUR.But Isaiah 53 says who Jesus was.Take Isaiah 43:11 and Luke 2:11.You have two choices there,either Jesus is God,or a liar.

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  by Jesus is God on October 24th, 2009

• Jesus said he does not accept glory from men but to seek glory from the only God and everything he did was for the glory of God.
  John 5:41-44) I do not accept glory from men, 42 but I well know that YOU do not have the love of God in YOU. 43 I have come in the name of my Father, but YOU do not receive me; if someone else arrived in his own name, YOU would receive that one. 44 How can YOU believe, when YOU are accepting glory from one another and YOU are not seeking the glory that is from the only God?
  (Isaiah 42:8) “I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to graven images.
  (1 Thessalonians 2:6) Neither have we been seeking glory from men, no, either from YOU or from others, though we could be an expensive burden as apostles of Christ.
  (Philippians 2:11) and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
  (Romans 16:27) to God, wise alone, be the glory through Jesus Christ forever. Amen.
  (Galatians 1:3-5) May YOU have undeserved kindness and peace from God our Father and [the] Lord Jesus Christ. 4 He gave himself for our sins that he might deliver us from the present wicked system of things according to the will of our God and Father, 5 to whom be the glory forever and ever. Amen.

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  by Texasescimo on October 24th, 2009

• I believe the scriptures show that since Jesus died for us, that God is our savior through our Lord Jesus. Jude 1:25: "to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen" (Jude 1:25, John 3:16) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jude%201:25;john%203:16&version=NASB;ESV;HCSB;DARBY;NLT
  God is still our savior rather it is through his only begotten son Jesus, or through Othniel or Ehud. Similar wording is used at Judges 3:9,15 as that at Acts 5:30,31, but no one thinks they are God. Even though Isaiah 43:11 says that there is no Savior besides Jehovah, he can still raise up prophets or even his son to save them through. http://bible.cc/isaiah/43-11.htm
  (Judges 3:9,15; Acts 5:30-31)
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges3:9,15;acts5:30-31;&version=YLT;ASV;KJV;NIRV;AMP;

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  by Texasescimo on October 24th, 2009

• I can't believe you can't see how your twisting the scripture.Bottomline we are to worship God and him alone,so why did Jesus allow the desciples to worship Him?How you can't see the evil behind Jehovah's witness is beyond me.

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  by Jesus is God on October 24th, 2009

• Hebrews 1:8,But unto the Son He saith,Thy throne O GOD,is forever abd ever:a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of the kingdom.John 8:58,Before Abraham was I Am.hmmm didn't God say those same words when describing Himself to Moses(Tell them I AM sent you).Acts 20:28,you see that God purchases the church of God with His own blood.It is right there,how can you deny Jesus as God?

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  by Jesus is God on October 24th, 2009

• Though I have answered every verse that you have put forth so far, I don't feel the same coming back. I don't usually push, but it seems as if you don't bother you that the King James and the Textus Receptus have several late additions added by some who try to support the trinity.
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  Not a unanimous consensus on that rendering.
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%2020:28&version=CEV;ESV;NLT;DARBY;KJV
  “with the blood of His own Son” The Holy Bible in
  Modern English, by
  F. Fenton, London
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  “through the death of his own Son” Today’s English
  Version, American Bible
  Society, New York.
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  "with the blood of his own" Darby
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  "with the blood of his own Son." Revised Standard Version
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  "with the blood of his own Son" New Jerusalem Bible
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  "his own through the blood of his Son" Good News Translation
  http://www.biblestudytools.com/gnt/acts/20.html
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  http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2009/10/acts-2028.html

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  by Texasescimo on October 24th, 2009

• Jesus is God,so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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  by Jesus is God on October 24th, 2009

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• Why did you buy one to begin with?I didn't go buy the origin of species.Hmmmm

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  by Jesus is God on October 22nd, 2009

• I actually don't have one at all. I answered for comic value only. Flippant Friday...

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  by Friartuck on October 22nd, 2009

• So you lied?Don't have one,yet you bash it.hmmm

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  by Jesus is God on October 22nd, 2009

• Oh bloody hell you are an obstreperous person - I have told you how long I was a christian before no longer believing. I gave away my bibles in the end - to the Salvo's...
  Twerp.

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  by Friartuck on October 22nd, 2009

• Atleast you had the respect to give them away,instead of trasing them,i'll give you that.Twerp huh?God Bless.

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  by Jesus is God on October 22nd, 2009

• I'm trying to cut down on my swearing. It's a personal thing.

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  by Friartuck on October 22nd, 2009

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