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by DukeG on October 21st, 2009
No but its a law they have to have a selection of channels. That's why the sheriff that makes them wear pink broke down and got them three channels. CNN, The weather channel and the Disney channel.
NY gives them cable vision With all the HBO's and Cinemax's Plus they rent them movies on weekends. Nice of them to waste your tax dollars isn't it?
by Frankster PartyMaestro Of Sillyville on October 21st, 2009
ANother way to waste Our Tax Money ;)
by Darth NANAME on October 21st, 2009
It's not a law, but it's fairly standard to give the prisoners luxery. If they don't, the prison gets shut down by the bleeding hearts groups whining about inhumane treatment.
by Hillbilly on October 21st, 2009
Why should they have it..all they need is three hots and a cot.
by Cotton 201 on October 21st, 2009
good question, have no idea Spicy! +6
see you later..going to the golf course!
by TWIST on October 21st, 2009
I don't think it's a federal law - but, what channel are you on? *greasy smile*
by Factotum on October 21st, 2009
I don't like the idea as it is nothing more than something to occupy minds that have other things to do. Worse, citizens do NOT get free cable. What's up with that? Food and sleeping space for the incarcerated I understand. More than that, I am a strong proponent of preventing abuse of prisoners by guards and most especially by other prisoners. That said, pleasures or even distractions are not supposed to be on the paid-for menu.
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There is, I hope, one saving grace for such a thing and that is that it can be denied in the event of a prisoner not cooperating - or something worse. It is hard to produce incentive in people who literally have nothing.
by Scifisuz on October 21st, 2009
I'd wager that the law is silent on that issue. Should it be offered though, I'm sure some sort of regulations apply - either fed or state law...
by bolwerk on October 21st, 2009
I have no idea if it's a right, but prisons probably offer TV for the same reason babysitters have them: it shuts (often illiterate) people up.
Either way, prisoners probably don't get "free" cable television anywhere. The money usually comes from proceeds of goods sold from correctional commissaries, which legally has to be used for the benefit of prisoners.* Prisoners are usually employed to do some menial work (stamping license plates is a famous example). Whatever they make is usually sold through a commissary or through some other channel.
* I don't think watching shitty television benefits them, at least not if they do it frequently, but whatever.
by TWIST on October 21st, 2009
Blah blah blah - I love you Spicy!!
by tata30 on October 21st, 2009
I highly doubt it and if it is then the US has a real wonky view of the penal system. Take away their liberty but don't take away their cable?!!!
by Pistachio on October 21st, 2009
It wouldn't surprise me at all...probly some human rights thing ! +4
by Wind in the Willow on October 21st, 2009
No. It is not. ???? First of all each prison is run by it's own standards and practices mostly.
by Monty5 on October 21st, 2009
I dont Think so but ur hot
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That story cracks me up, I guess it is up to the prison on what they show.
by Spicy Hot on October 21st, 2009
What the hell is his name, I cant think of it. The Sheriff with the Vacancy sign on his prison.
by DukeG on October 21st, 2009
Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona
by Spicy Hot on October 21st, 2009
Arizonia Sheriff
by Seeya says Dont Ever Give Up on October 21st, 2009
It keeps the inmates calmed down
by Seeya says Dont Ever Give Up on October 21st, 2009
Does it?
He is a firecracker, that sheriff.
by Spicy Hot on October 21st, 2009
That sheriff has himself in some pretty big trouble.
by Possum on October 21st, 2009
Why now, He's beaten all the law suits to date.
by DukeG on October 21st, 2009
There's a big class action suit against Sheriff Arpaio in Federal Court.
by Possum on October 21st, 2009
They'll lose like they always do. It a very right wing state.
by DukeG on October 21st, 2009
That's the significance of the case being in a Federal Court. Federal judges are appointed for life by the president-consequently they transent individual administrations and local political pressures.
Arpaio is over the top and it's probably long past time he be reigned in.
by Possum on October 21st, 2009
My understanding is that he's a little crooked and a complete bastard.
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Nevertheless it is hard not to cheer on his attitude towards criminals.
by Factotum on October 21st, 2009
I have not seen any evidence that his medieval techniques have done anything to reduce either violent or property crime in Maricosa County. Quite the opposite-it looks like the murder rates are way up. Does he really feel that humiiiation and subhuman treatment are going to make a person better?
by Possum on October 21st, 2009
If you have stats that can weed out illegal immigrants the gang activity that comes with them I'd be happy to look at them but there are a lot more things affecting the AZ crime rate - including the current economic downturn and resulting job losses - than Sheriff Joe.
by Factotum on October 21st, 2009
*and the gang activity
by Factotum on October 21st, 2009
We have to work with the information available and that information indicates that his program isn't helping. If you want to play a "yeah, but...." game that can go on forever. I'm from Texas-which you'd have known if you'd read my profile-don't even talk to me about illegals, gang activity and the economy.
by Possum on October 21st, 2009
My profuse apologies, I hadn't been informed that your profile was required reading.
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With regard to the crime rate in Maricopa County: are you suggesting that Joe's policies are to blame for the increase? That criminals can't wait to get caught and sent back to prison? That non-criminals are eager to become criminals in order to stay in tents and watch the Disney Channel?
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If you want to assume that, then it's your business but your insistence on prison conditions having a causal effect on crime rates does not convince me.
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In the meantime, prisoners on the inside don't commit crimes on the populace which is what I am most interested in.
by Factotum on October 21st, 2009
All I'm saying that if one of the purposes of prison is deterrance, which it is, the Arizona model doesn't seem to be working.
by Possum on October 22nd, 2009
Working in a prison for 26 years, Ive seem the "FUN" they have in prison and it disgusts me. His way may not be a deterrent but at least they are not having the time of their lives when doing time.
by DukeG on October 22nd, 2009
Worked in a prison as what?
by Possum on October 22nd, 2009
Officer.
by DukeG on October 22nd, 2009
There are several purposes of prisons - deterrence is only one of them. The others include; flat out punishment, keeping the offender away from regular people to guarantee (imperfectly) that at least during the time of his sentence he won't be hurting innocent people, state-sponsored 'revenge' on behalf of any victims such that the victims feel they have been taken care of (really cuts down on vigilantism, that) and rehabilitation which itself includes things like discipline, (theoretical) lack of access to drugs, practice getting along in a society - such that it is - a feeling of having 'paid a debt to society' which means that when they get out they can have a sense of completion with regard to the crime they committed and in some cases schooling and job training.
by Factotum on October 22nd, 2009
as in corrections officer? come on-there's a story here and you're not telling it.
of course, deterrence is only one of the reasons for incarceration, that's why I said, "one of the purposes of prison is deterrance".
You take too many words to say that you just like the idea of what "Joe's" doing without any notion of its impact.
Good luck.
by Possum on October 22nd, 2009
I like SOME of what Joe is doing. My understanding is that he's actually bad news.
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The basic idea - that prisoners don't need as many comforts as they have I agree with. I'm on the fence on the tent city thing but it seems like a better solution to over-crowded jails than just letting a bunch of people go because you need the beds - either they need to serve a certain amount of time or they don't. His line about it being good enough for the army resonates with me as well. But it is also DAMN hot in Arizona. I lived there for many years.
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My main thing has always been that prisoners need less comfort and more safety (from each other, generally speaking).
by Factotum on October 22nd, 2009
I have a million stories what do you want to know? But I am the wrong one to talk to if you are for inmate rights because I have seen first hand how they live. It disgusts me. I have seen Grand Fathers, Fathers, And Son on the same Tier. The apple dont fall far from the tree. They probably spend more time with each other in Prison then they had on the street. Its not like you see on TV or read in books and its definitely "NOT" like they complain about.
by DukeG on October 23rd, 2009
Spicy, would you please help and answer this question.
http://www.answerbag.com/a_view/8071568
by Stillme FBB on October 23rd, 2009
Hahaha, sorry, I really did mean to post just the question.:):)
by Stillme FBB on October 23rd, 2009