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If (when) a terrorist group uses nukes to hit 2 or 3 or 4 major US cities, then presents us with the ultimatum to withdraw from the Middle East and cut off aid to Israel, what alternative is there to complying?

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by Tom on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:29 am Permalink

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From what I've learned, it is the policy of the USA to never submit to terrorists. Period. So this would probably trigger the biggest millitary invasion in world history.
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Avatar Old School - In Memory of Harley Oct, 05 2009 at 09:33 AM
And who, exactly, would we invade? The US already occupies Iraq, Afghanistan, Qatar, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.
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And how would we pay for the $300/bbl. oil that's needed to power all of the tanks/planes/APCs/trucks/etc.?
Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 05 2009 at 09:41 AM
Tom, I can see your point, but dang details... The US would have to institute a draft to raise enough troops to invade & occupy Iran or Pakistan, either of which would be Iraq x 5 or 10 in terms of difficulty and casualties. Who would pay for that when the US is in a depression due to the loss of NY and other cities, and China has cut off our credit because we're no longer a good risk? And the perps would be a few smallish cells moving around; millions of soldiers couldn't defend against that.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but the devil's in the details.
Avatar Tom Oct, 05 2009 at 09:57 AM
I agree. I also think it's wrong. I'm just pointing out what the US is likely to do based on thier advertised policy and their history in similar situations. I don't think that it is the right thing to do, and I definately have some issues about what "Old School" had to say about how we have to pay for this. We are in such a financial recession right now, the last thing we need is an expensive war to pay finance. Now that we no longer have a member of the Bush family in office, maybe the new administration will hopefully take a look at alternatives.

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by qwerty on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:44 am Permalink

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tactical nukes
they can easily wipe out a country without collateral damage
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Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 05 2009 at 09:59 AM
Oops, forgot points.
Avatar qwerty Oct, 05 2009 at 10:07 AM
well I wold think if the country would allow this to happen, even without being invloved the US would hold that country accountable
like I said the did it with Iraq, there was never and concrete evidence that any terrorist group was based in Iraq, Bushy boy went on shady data and did it anyway
I think the same would happen to any country that would have lax enough security thay wouls d allow nukes to be stolen
Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 05 2009 at 10:24 AM
Yeah... I just feel like there's no "good" answer.

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by Randoley on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:41 am Permalink

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I don't think the terrorists are that stupid. I don't think any country or group is that stupid. It would be their death sentence.
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Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 06 2009 at 09:35 AM
They'd waffle and give up a few small fry at most, or, more likely, refuse and give excuses and trust in their god.
Avatar Randoley Oct, 06 2009 at 10:02 AM
then, BOOM!
Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 06 2009 at 10:06 AM
That'd kill millions and probably cause a revolution to install an Islamist shadow gov't who wouldn't hesitate to nuke us again. Plus the Arab world would immediately embargo oil for our "attacks on Islam", sending us into a depression.
I don't know what the least-worst answer would be.

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by ExactlyTwentyLetters on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:31 am Permalink

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If that happened you could rest assured that there would be no more Middle East or North Korea. They would be gone...
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Avatar ExactlyTwentyLetters Oct, 05 2009 at 10:06 AM
I respectfully disagree. I think if a nuclear bomb was detonated in a major US city, everything we know about the rules of engagement would change dramatically.
Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 05 2009 at 10:19 AM
You might be right. Maybe especially if Washington, DC is nuked and the gov't decapitated.
Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 05 2009 at 10:21 AM
But I also doubt that much of the US public understands that just because we might "leave terrorists alone", they'd leave us alone... so there'd be pressure to retreat and save hundreds of thousands of US lives.

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by King of the Cheeses on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:31 am Permalink

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Nuke all their nukes; politely refuse and ask if you can talk about it over crumpets; lift your kilt and moon them until they can't stand it any more and give up.
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Avatar King of the Cheeses Oct, 05 2009 at 10:04 AM
There can't be a Muslim world if the world under them was boiled away. With nukes.
Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 05 2009 at 10:24 AM
We might have enough to hit every city over, I dunno, 250,000 people (????????) in Syria, Iran, Pakistan, killing (murdering, IMO) tens of millions, but that would leave about 900 million.
Avatar King of the Cheeses Oct, 05 2009 at 10:35 AM
Almost 50 years ago the Russians created a nuke with an 8km fireball (and much larger blast radius). After they halved it's size. I'm sure that today if America really wanted to they could build nukes in large enough numbers and power to take care of any number of pesky innocent civilians.

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by Jim in a Nautilus COAT on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:03 pm Permalink

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It is inconceivable that a terrorist group could develop a working nuclear bomb on their own. But say they did get a few, we've got thousands. We would launch an all-out attack against the nation state that provided them the weapons and against any state giving them sanctuary.

There is no compromising with religious fundamentalist when they reach the intensity of killing innocent people to get their way. Their eventual goal is to either convert or kill everyone not accepting their own belief system.
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Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 06 2009 at 09:40 AM
But do we nuke Islamabad and other Pak. sites to punish a few dozen people who are responsible for giving the terrorists the nukes? The Arabs would immediately cut off oil to us, sending us into a depression, and millions of Pakis would be resolved to do anything to nuke us again.
Avatar Jim in a Nautilus COAT Oct, 06 2009 at 07:53 PM
If four of our major cities were wiped off the face of the earth and millions dead, then if they wouldn't handle rounding up those responsible and putting them on trial, yes.

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by Siyanor on Oct 5, 2009 at 9:31 am Permalink

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I believe the best alternative would be waking up.

Terrorist groups don't have nuclear weaponry.
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Avatar Randoley Oct, 05 2009 at 04:52 PM
yet!
Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 05 2009 at 07:16 PM
Iran will within a matter of years. Pakistan already has them.
Avatar Randoley Oct, 06 2009 at 04:58 AM
That is why the Taliban is fighting so hard to take over Pakistan.

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by Moongrim on Oct 6, 2009 at 4:36 am Permalink

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Teach the muslims the notion that allah doesn't like them after all.
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Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 06 2009 at 09:38 AM
Well, we *could* destroy Muslim civilization by murdering millions, at the cost of destabilizing large parts of the world and isolating ourselves into an oil-less depression. But not all of the bad guys would be gone, and more bad guys would sign on to hit us with more Pakistani nukes.
Avatar Moongrim Oct, 06 2009 at 04:41 PM
You can't circumsize muslims.
There's just no end to those pr**cks.

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by Occams Electric Razor on Oct 5, 2009 at 8:05 pm Permalink

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well as far as I know there is no chance to comply because as soon as someone launches nukes at us we automatically launch nukes at them and then everyone will probably jump in and that's pretty much the endgame.
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Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 06 2009 at 09:41 AM
Terrorists don't "launch", they slip a bomb into NY or DC. We could trace that it originated in Pakistan, probably, but then what do you do - kill millions because of rogue Islamist officers who allowed the nukes to be "stolen"?

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by hawaii.jake on Oct 5, 2009 at 1:19 pm Permalink

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Who are you? And what have you done with my friend the Blob?
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Avatar Amorphous Blob blobs by not blobbing Oct, 06 2009 at 09:42 AM
Beware of the Blob.


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