by kcmasterpiece0 on October 2nd, 2009

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Anyone who studies/knows hebrew/greek... what does the original bible text really say about homosexuality?

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  • by The Chief on October 29th, 2009

    The Chief

    Funny you should phrase it this way.

    What you are asking is for a translation of Greek or Hebrew from the original scriptures which make up the books of the Old Testiment and the New Testiment.

    You can get this from any number of different translations of the Bible. Go to the following website and look up some passages as you will, from any of the translations you wish to read:

    http://www.biblegateway.com/

    Genesis 19
    Leveticus 18:22
    Leviticus 20:13
    Romans 1:26-27
    1 Corinthians 6:9

    There are more, but I leave that to you to google.

    If this doesn't satisfy you for an answer, try googling for the scriptural translations themselves.

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  • by Moongrim on November 4th, 2009

    Moongrim

    Diddly squat concerning general homosexuality. It does kind of refer to male homosexuality.

    In Hebrew it says:

    Va’ish asher yish’khav et-zachar mish’khavey ishah to’evah ‘asu shaneyhem mot yumatu damyhem khem

    Translated as:
    And Man who he lay a male with lay a woman hateful thing they made two of them die their blood on them.

    http://www.karaitejudaism.org/talks/Homosexuality_and_the_Tanakh.htm

    Pretty darned specific eh?

    It's STILL open to interpretation- one of which is that if the two men avoid the missionary position (which is the ONLY prescribed sexual position for Jews), they should be fine.

    And the Bible doesn't say a thing about lesbians.

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  • by guardian on November 4th, 2009

    guardian

    I think the first thing is their is no real word of Homosexuality, it is usually used as Sodomy or Sodomite.
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  • by my2cents--Vote for Paul on November 13th, 2009

    my2cents--Vote for Paul

    Lev 20:13 If a man also LIE with mankind as he lieth with a woman both of them have committed an abomination they shall surely be put to death their blood shall be upon them.
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    7901. shakab -------------------------------

    to lie down
    Original Word: שָׁכַב
    Transliteration: shakab
    Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-kab')
    Short Definition: cast down
    cast down, lay self down, make to lie down, down to sleep, still with, lodge, ravish,

    A primitive root; to lie down (for rest, sexual connection, decease or any other purpose) -- X at all, cast down, ((lover-))lay (self) (down), (make to) lie (down, down to sleep, still with), lodge, ravish, take rest, sleep, stay.


    8441. toebah ------------------------------------

    abomination
    Original Word: תּוֹעֵבָה
    Transliteration: toebah or toebah
    Phonetic Spelling: (to-ay-baw')
    Short Definition: Tolaites
    ------------------------------
    Or tonebah {to-ay-baw'}; feminine active participle of ta'ab; properly, something disgusting (morally), i.e. (as noun) an abhorrence; especially idolatry or (concretely) an idol -- abominable (custom, thing), abomination.
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    1 Corn 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God Be not deceived neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor effeminate nor ABUSERS OF THEMSELVES WITH MANKIND
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    733. arsenokoites ---------------------------------------

    a sodomite
    Original Word: ἀρσενοκοίτης
    Transliteration: arsenokoites
    Phonetic Spelling: (ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace)
    Short Definition: homosexual

    homosexual
    From arrhen and koite; a sodomite -- abuser of (that defile) self with mankind.
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    Romans 1:26-27
    26 For this cause God gave them up unto VILE affections for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature 27 And likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another __ men with men working that which is unseemly and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet
    .
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    819. atimia --------------------------------------

    dishonor
    Original Word: ἀτιμία
    Transliteration: atimia
    Phonetic Spelling: (at-ee-mee'-ah)
    Short Definition: dishonor
    dishonor, reproach, shame, vile.

    From atimos; infamy, i.e. (subjectively) comparative indignity, (objectively) disgrace -- dishonour, reproach, shame, vile.


    http://kjvs.scripturetext.com/romans/1.htm

  • by fluffylucy on July 9th, 2010

    fluffylucy

    Hebrew is my native tongue. the oft quoted verse וְאִישׁ, אֲשֶׁר יִשְׁכַּב אֶת-זָכָר מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה--תּוֹעֵבָה עָשׂוּ, שְׁנֵיהֶם; מוֹת יוּמָתוּ, דְּמֵיהֶם בָּם
    basically says that a man who lays down a male like a woman they created an abomination and both shall die death, their blood on them. its slightly incoherent but may well be an admonition against gay men. it is situated somewhere between the bit where cursing your father or mother gets you killed and the bit where divining ghosts gets you stoned to death. not everything is punishable by death of course. having sex with your wife (actually says see each other's nakedness) while she is ovulating only exiles you and banishes you from your family and people forever (once a death sentence in itself). and don't even think of that mother daughter fantasy. even if you married the daughter it merits being burned to death and like a really bad midnight infomercial there's more...

    I honestly don't know how any civilised person can think that this collection of books can provide a proper moral framework for living life. its not all so absolutely brutish but it is still rubbish.

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