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As an Atheist, I am often accused by Christians of having made up my mind about the bible before I read it, so I ask Christians: Have you already decided that the bible is true before you sit down to read it?

By MrJosh Asked Sep 12 2009 11:30PM
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by fantasy child on Sep 12, 2009 at 11:32 pm Permalink

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I know GOD is real, before I read the bible, based on my parents beliefs.. as I read the bible I learn they are correct..
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Avatar fantasy child Sep, 25 2009 at 11:17 PM
I am much to old to change the way I believe, I will always believe in God. he has helped me with many many problems. I am very happy you have not had to call on him.. Thank you eclipse for all your help as well. I like to read what Mr. Josh writes i think he is very intelligence as well. I use to ignore ppl whom didn't share my love for Christ. I haven't come to understand they aren't crazy or sick, they just are who they are.. Again Mr. Josh I can't help you with this question, I do have faith you will find your answer
Avatar MrJosh Sep, 25 2009 at 11:28 PM
Thanks Fantasy Child!
Avatar fantasy child Sep, 25 2009 at 11:29 PM
sure Josh keep up the great answers I do love reading them

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by true love conquers all on Sep 12, 2009 at 11:34 pm Permalink

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well i was raised catholic and i always believed that the bible is true.
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Avatar JakobA lo_0l Sep, 13 2009 at 06:49 AM
Thank you.
@ MrJosh sorry for the hijack, hope its OK ;-)
Avatar MrJosh Sep, 13 2009 at 07:06 AM
No prob, just looking for conversations.
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Thanks for your story true love!
Avatar true love conquers all Sep, 13 2009 at 07:26 AM
hehe yw take care =)

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by Phillis - Zacks little sister on Sep 16, 2009 at 5:02 am Permalink

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I have nothing against Athiests, but this is like comparing apples to oranges. Christians DO read the Bible, then suss out what they believe and don't believe. That's what Sunday school is for....teaching Bible verses and such. I don't often hear of Athiests who do, although there are a few who converted after becoming disappointed/disillusioned with their religion.

I've said it before on AB, and I'll say it again. I'm so disappointed in my Christian peers! The hate and blatant disrespect for fellow human beings spewing forth like a never-ending font has hurt my heart on more than one occasion. Mr.Josh, your saying you've been "accused" is merely one incident in thousands that plainly demonstrates that this "Christian" approach DOES NOT WORK.

At what point did Christians decide that, if they could just be NASTY enough, they might win an argument, or convert a soul? Come on, guys.....God wants a THINKING Christian, not a hapless sheep. +5
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Avatar MrJosh Sep, 16 2009 at 09:54 AM
Thanks for your perspective!
Avatar Texasescimo Oct, 27 2009 at 12:02 PM
Nice answer Phillis.
Avatar Phillis - Zacks little sister Oct, 27 2009 at 05:31 PM
Thank you! I feel very strongly about nasty Christians :(

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by Artemus on Sep 15, 2009 at 10:56 am Permalink

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In my opinion, most Christians approach the bible in a far more bigoted way than most atheists. Christians KNOW they are right, while Atheists admit there is much they don't know.
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Avatar LeopoldClanner Sep, 16 2009 at 08:46 AM
Many atheists are convinced they are right, others are not. You will always get some Christians saying atheists are wrong, and some atheists saying Christians are wrong. These are only small minorities of each group, as you can also find discussions on answerbag where neither atheists nor Christians are saying the other is completely and utterly wrong.
Avatar MrJosh Sep, 16 2009 at 09:49 AM
Phillis: I think that depends on your perspective. I'll bet many Ateists here on AB would argue the opposite. Most likely, reality probably falls somewhere in the middle.
Avatar Phillis - Zacks little sister Sep, 16 2009 at 01:28 PM
You're probably right about that, Mr.Josh.

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by my2cents on Sep 16, 2009 at 4:44 am Permalink

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Most yes. Many started reading to prove it wrong but something happened along the way. And they began to believe. My former preacher was that way, he did not believe until he researched and every point he thought of he found in the Bible.
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by Moongrim on Sep 13, 2009 at 8:21 am Permalink

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They accuse you of what they themselves are guilty of.

Apparently we're supposed to read the bible with the same 'spirit' of gullibility as they do.

Never mind that 2 billion christians all read the bible and darn near come up with thousands of differing interpretations.
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Avatar MrJosh Sep, 16 2009 at 09:52 AM
ethicalbro: I was (apparently failing at) being sarcastic. I seem to get that response from believers of any religion when I discuss that religion. If I ask, "What about people who do X in the name of your god?" "Well, they aren't true Christians (Muslims, etc)."
Avatar ethicalbro Sep, 16 2009 at 09:55 AM
sorry!
Avatar MrJosh Sep, 16 2009 at 09:59 AM
No prob!

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by ScienceSwamy on Sep 13, 2009 at 8:52 am Permalink

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That is the only way one could EVER believe in Bible!
It starts falling apart from the first page:
Day 1: God 'made' light, calling it the day.
Day 3: Plant vegetation appeared without sunlight!
Day 4: God 'made' sun ('greater light' to govern the day) and moon ('lesser light' to govern the night) and also stars (no particular reason).
Q: Where did the 'daylight' come from on Days-1-2-3?
(A: God's shiny fragrant arse!)
Obviously god knew less of light than Newton & Einstein!
(But He 'must' have inspired them to know the truth, while He told a different, less pertinent Truth
to Jesus Christ!) Bah, humbug!
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Avatar MrJosh Sep, 16 2009 at 09:50 AM
But the brilliance of God made the plants grow before the sun. ;)
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Anything can be rationalized.

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by Trissinger on Sep 16, 2009 at 8:24 am Permalink

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That's a fair question MrJosh. (And thanks for asking it respectfully.)

I decided through a long process of questioning it and my faith, in a reasoned way. (Bible school; does what's taught in the Holy Writ 'work' in real life; seen tons of miracles; on and on like this, for me.)

I've read the Bible through from cover to cover at least 4 times now.
(Not that I claim to be any kind of 'definitive authority' on the topic, but having at least read what one claims to believe IS, usually, at least a good start!) ...
 
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Avatar MrJosh Sep, 16 2009 at 09:59 AM
Thanks for your story and kudos to you for questioning your beliefs, regardless if you discovered that you agree with me or not!
Avatar Trissinger Sep, 16 2009 at 03:02 PM
:) --- Happy to peacefully either agree with you or disagree with you MrJ. Hope you had a good one, today! (Unless, of course, you're just BEGINNING your day: then: Hope you'll have a good one! lol!)

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by PhileoTruth on Sep 15, 2009 at 11:19 am Permalink

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Valid question and thank you. +4

I did not become a Christian until I was an adult. (I did not grow up religious.) Even then, once I came into the faith, I wanted to ensure that I was following the right faith and to make sure that no one was going to seduce me into anything cult-like. I became a student of the Bible and its history for a solid five years. Almost exclusively for five years, I read the Bible and supporting materials to help explain it historically and interpret it.

From my study of the Bible, I saw that it is internally consistent and verifiable as a historical document. I had to prove to myself that it stands as the source of truth, because I did not want to be religious for the sake of being religious. I had to know for myself that I could trust it-- especially because it was now going to inform how I would live the rest of my life. If my skepticism (even as a young Christian) had not been put to ease, then I would have doubted whether or not I was actually a Christian.

To answer your question-- I had to convince myself through study if it was true. Thankfully, I found that it was.

Good question. Very earnest. Thank you.
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Avatar PhileoTruth Sep, 16 2009 at 07:26 AM
Mr. Josh: I hold that the Bible is 100% accurate and reflecting the perfection of the God whom it reveals. There are definitely symbols, allegories, figures of speech, etc. in Scripture-- not every thing is to be taken as 100% iron-clad literal. That would be a horrendous mistake in Biblical interpretation.
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However, as Jesus, who is recognized as a bonafide historical figure gave historical credence to creation, Jonah, and other OT characters, we must also take them as being historical. He did not refer to them as if they were made-up, but rather, He validated them as actual historical beings.
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For example, when Jesus used the story of Jonah as an allegory of Himself (Matt. 12:39-41), He was validating that as Jonah spent three days in the belly of the whale, so too would He rise on the third day. As Jesus did rise historically on the third day, it lends even more credibility to the historicity of Jonah coming out of the whale after three days.
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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/
Avatar PhileoTruth Sep, 16 2009 at 07:40 AM
RE: how to determine what was history and what is parable--
Hermeneutics are the systematic methods of Biblical interpretation. In the link are some practical tips to help you ensure that you are correctly understanding what you read in the Bible. http://www.xenos.org/essays/herme.htm
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Note: there are different methods, each with its own strengths and weaknesses. If you read the Bible using one method consistently, you should recognize the cohesiveness of the Scriptures, subjugate any assumptions that you may bring, and receive an objective comprehension of what the author intended to the original audience. The Bible is 66 books--consider the genre (poetry, narrative, instructive letters, etc.) of each book you read. From that understanding, you can draw valid conclusions about what you have read.
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As a bonus, alleged contradictions in the Bible and other unclear passages will be easier to reconcile with through hermeneutics.
Hope this helps!
Avatar MrJosh Sep, 16 2009 at 09:45 AM
Thanks!

Answer 10 out of 30

by guardian on Sep 15, 2009 at 11:10 am Permalink

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great question +2
yes... but still great question...a lot of time we get into something that we don't really know about, or we just say ...ummm yeah i believe... but look deep inside and you will find out if you really believe or just thought you did.
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