Isn't it odd that the people who did the ACORN sting video self financed it, are profiting from it, and had to try it multiple times before they found ACORN members dumb enough to go along?

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• acorn is a digrace. we all knew it last year during the election. it is of no suprise that they have finally met their demise

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  by charliethegreat on September 25th, 2009

• http://mediamatters.org/research/200909170031
  Is a police report evidence enough for you?
  
  And as for why they are suing... Um, taping someone without their consent and knowledge is.. what's the word..? oh yes.. a Crime.

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  by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on September 29th, 2009

• taping someone without their consent is not a crime. it happens all the time

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  by charliethegreat on September 30th, 2009

• So, which is the greater crime here, taping someone without their knowledge or permission or knowingly helping someone to setup a child prostituion ring? If you ask me, I think that all this bellyaching about illegally taping someone in who was willing to do such a thing is just so much trying to deflect blame away from those that are truly guilty of corupt behavior.

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  by Glenn Blaylock on September 30th, 2009

• carefully deflecting away from the proof that they tried at more offices than they reported, and failed... A police report is great evidence.

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  by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on September 30th, 2009

• And, it is illegal to tape a conversation or phone call unless both parties are aware and consent. The only exception is the police, and only with a warrant.

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  by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on September 30th, 2009

• even in a publically financed groups office? i wonder, but i dont know for certain.

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  by charliethegreat on October 3rd, 2009

• It is a crime. Period.

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  by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on October 3rd, 2009

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• didn't say that.... but the Stingers weren't acting out of some noble purpose to uncover the truth. They were playing "Gotcha" to make a profit.... and they tried and failed, and kept trying until they lucked out.

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  by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on September 11th, 2009

• And what about the Washington bureau of ACORN that got busted for the same thing?

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  by East Hill on September 11th, 2009

• And what is wrong about making a profit on this "Gotcha" type of journalism? Do all the other major news organizations operate as non-profits?

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  by East Hill on September 11th, 2009

• Well, how about in all fairness and out of full disclosure they actually tell how many times they tried and failed, as well as how much money they've made? I have to think with any large organization there will be a few less competent, less than honest people. How long did they have to work to find them? I imagine with enough time and effort and the promise of a huge payday I could come up with a great "gotcha" video on you.

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  by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on September 11th, 2009

• Right. I agree. And the point is? The point is NEVER HELP someone who comes into your office asking for help on setting up a prostitution ring of underage girls and avoiding any taxes. THAT way, if some greedy, evil Republican comes in with a camera on his head, you won't get busted. I can't believe you have so much outrage for the guy who filmed these people, and yet you have nothing bad to say about the horrific attitudes of these ACORN employees. Would you have this much outrage if someone undercover busted an organization George W. Bush was in bed with in like manner?

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  by East Hill on September 11th, 2009

• 2 people working for an organization of how many? Yep.. they were fired, as they should be, but it doesn't make the organization bad. The fact is ACORN has been targeted as evil by the right for how long? They've been accused of how many horrific things, from voter fraud to blatant theft, and this is it? Two stupid people acting a hell of a lot like blase' bureaucrats, not listening to their "clients" and repeating a lot of bureaucrat babble by rote?
  BFD.
  I get bad service daily.... at the grocery store, at city hall.... It's not what they did that's getting all the attention, it's that they're ACORN employees, targeted specifically, because the right doesn't like 'em.

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  by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on September 11th, 2009

• I respectfully disagree. It IS what they did that's getting all the attention. Of course politics plays a part in all of this. I agree with you there. But nonetheless, these people in two separate agencies for ACORN offered to *help* these people set up prostitution rings for underage girls. I don't care if they are republicans, democrats, or libertarians, these people need to be hung out to dry. In my never to be humble opinion.

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  by East Hill on September 11th, 2009

• No, it was not two separate agencies of acorn. It was five. Also according to the people that did the sting, the only offices that they went into WERE the ones shown in the videos. So, it was five out of five that were willing to help setup a criminal enterprise involving underaged prostitution. Additionally, I find it odd that, if this organization is as outraged by the behavior of their representatives as they claim that they would be going after the ones that exposed them. If the behavior of these people was truly not in keeping with the values of ACORN, then they should be thanking the ones the conducted the sting for exposing the bad apples in their midst. Are they doing that? No. So, I am left to conclude that the are upset because the organization is, once again, exposed for the corrupt group that they really are.

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  by Glenn Blaylock on September 25th, 2009

• Case in point: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/24/acorn-sues-bretibart-pimp-hooker-duo/

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  by East Hill on September 26th, 2009

• Well Glenn if they say "the only offices that they went into WERE the ones shown in the videos" they are lying. They went into a few offices in NYC who proceeded to call the cops on them. Makes me question the credibility of the "investigators".

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  by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on September 26th, 2009

• Do you have a record of the alleged call to the cops? Or are you perhaps referring to their visit to this New York ACORN office (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrpRGZq7Z-U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue_2_dhh1zo&feature=player_embedded).

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  by Glenn Blaylock on September 26th, 2009

• http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/pagespage/2009/09/how-acorn-sting-got-stung.html
  As I recall, you tend to dismiss any media source that disagrees with your pre-conceived notions.

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  by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on September 26th, 2009

• Rude Bear: This link supports my earlier statement. I'm flabbergasted that the only condemnation Clarence Page makes of what the ACORN employees did comes in one little statement near the end of his column that says "Of course, lack of candor, transparency or accountability by ACORN's young critics does not excuse the sins of the sinners they caught, but it does raise questions about the reliability of biggovernment.com "journalism." That's it? No calls to further investigate ACORN? Instead, he attacks the methods of the "two young right-wing pranksters." Would he be this defensive of a conservative group that helped set up a child prostitution ring and then was "tricked" by a couple of "left-wing pranksters"? No way. This is absolutely amazing.

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  by East Hill on September 26th, 2009

• Getting back to my original point: The "stinger" appear to have a self promoting and financial motive, and as such, I find their findings suspect. If all they say is true and documented, why don't they release all the tapes, rather than an edited version? Why not list all the branches they visited? There are reports where the counselor figured out she was being punked and played along with it... There are numerous reports of the police being called in... How many times did they try and fail? Are we to believe every branch they walked into fell for their scam? Doubtful.

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  by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on September 26th, 2009

• *sigh* OK, how about this: Do you think child prostitution is wrong?

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  by East Hill on September 28th, 2009

• Or better yet, Rude Bear, are you still going to keep on trying to defend ACORN now that the memo has come out showing that the problems with the organization are not just limited to a few bad apples that were working for them? The problems with the organization are pervasive and systemic. The leadership of the organization was warned about the problems and did NOTHING to clean them up.
  http://spectator.org/archives/2009/10/01/acorns-prophetic-lawyer
  http://biggovernment.com/2009/10/01/exclusive-acorn-legal-memo-confirms-depths-of-troubles/

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  by Glenn Blaylock on October 3rd, 2009