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by Spaitray on August 15th, 2009
:) you are partially right and partially wrong. Yes Quran, was meant to follow and is meant to be the word of Almighty, so the right way to read it is to read it as if It is talking to you.
2. Quran criticises the deeds if one goes through the context. It is advice esp to muslims not to do as sinners did.
by borasalama on October 16th, 2009
Yes Mohammed had a few scribes who he would dictate the verses of the HQ for them to write down. He would then ask them to read back to him what they had written. He would also instruct on where the verses were to be inserted in relation to the verses that had already been collected.
So although the HQ is, as its name implies, a reading or recitation, it was meant to be written down as a book. It refers to itself as the Book many times. One reference is on the first page after the opening chapter, where HQ 2:2 says "This is the Book; there is no doubt in it, a guidance for those who are God-conscious" Another example is HQ 45:29 "This Book of Ours speaks about you with truth: For We were wont to put on Record all that ye did".
Yes Mohammed did criticise, but he criticised that which was bad in society, irrespective of who the doer was.
by Ahmed_225 on August 15th, 2009
1) Hello Ahmed,
Koran criticizes Jews and Christians as 'ahl-e-kitab,
or 'people of the Book', or 'people who have been given the Book' and that their creed is inferior and false. (At-Tauba: 9:29)
quran doesn't criticizes Jews and christan but rather it describes them as the people of book and it's a huge diffrence....quran call them (People of book) just to remind them that we reveal to you the scripture (Torah and gospel) which clearly state the messege of Islam (one god .. etc).
also Muslims are people of book because they have the quran.
you can see that clearly in these verses
chapter 5
Verily, We did send down the Taurât (Torah) [to Mûsa (Moses)], therein was guidance and light, by which the Prophets, who submitted themselves to Allâh's Will, judged for the Jews. And the rabbis and the priests [too judged for the Jews by the Taurât (Torah) after those Prophets] for to them was entrusted the protection of Allâh's Book, and they were witnesses thereto. Therefore fear not men but fear Me (O Jews) and sell not My Verses for a miserable price. And whosoever does not judge by what Allâh has revealed, such are the Kâfirûn (i.e. disbelievers - of a lesser degree as they do not act on Allâh's Laws[]). (44)And in their footsteps, We sent 'Īsā (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)[], confirming the Taurât (Torah) that had come before him, and We gave him the Injeel (Gospel), in which was guidance and light and confirmation of the Taurât (Torah) that had come before it, a guidance and an admonition for Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2). (46)And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad SAW) the Book (this Qur'ân) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Muhaymin (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures)[]. So judge among them by what Allâh has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allâh had willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so compete in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allâh; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ (48)
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2)Also Koran was not written down as it was revealed.
And in any case, revealing a book over 22 long years seems
too slow for an 'all knowing Allah', don't you think?
ok...this question had been asked a lot 1400 yers ago
these verses answer you
chapter 25
And those who disbelieve say: "Why is not the Qur'ân revealed to him all at once?" Thus (it is sent down in parts), that We may strengthen your heart thereby. And We have revealed it to you gradually, in stages. (It was revealed to the Prophet SAW in 23 years.). (32) And no example or similitude do they bring (to oppose or to find fault in you or in this Qur'ân), but We reveal to you the truth (against that similitude or example), and the better explanation thereof. (33)
so for each action or anything in prophet life..some verses were reaveled to him ..some verses were not suitable to be revealed in the begining of islam..some were suitable to be revealed before prophet dieth and so on ...
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3)Or was Allah limited by His choice of an illiterate prophet? Wouldn't it have been simpler for Allah to to reveal Koran
to some younger, smarter, literate prophet and much much earlier?
???
the all wisdom in choosing illiterate prophet .. yes it's true :)
Arabs in that time were interestead in liteture and words forming (poetry...etc). when quran came..god challenge them to consturct a words like quran .. but they failed ... the challenge is that the quran revealed to the prophet who is illiterate ..who can't write or read .. so how did he construct these nice words which is better than poets they wrote.
chapter 17
Say: "If the mankind and the jinn were together to produce the like of this Qur'ân, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another." (88)
chapter 2
). (22) And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Qur'ân) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him ), then produce a Sûrah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allâh, if you are truthful. (23) But if you do it not, and you can never do it, then fear the Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers. (24)
and quran always call Mohammed the illitrate prophet just to emphasize that how this illitrate wrote the quran..but he didn't .. he get it from the creator of everythings
by Ahmed_225 on August 14th, 2009
mm actually i don't understand ur question100%..so can you please rephrase it??
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Thanks for your answer, which I take as
"Koran is meant to be 'listened to' as 'the word of Allah's instruction',
not ritualistic recitations (100 times, 1000 times, etc.)."
by ScienceSwamy on August 15th, 2009
And I thank you for being so nice. :) that you have guts to listen and accept if something seems reasonable, which we muslims are missing nowadays.
by Spaitray on August 15th, 2009
To me, the main problem seems to be 'closed minds'...
"washed brains are so dirty, even confession to Original Sin, holy communion, or Zam-Zam water wouldn't clean them!"
"washed brains are like raped minds, often damaged beyond repair…”
Mind is like a parachute. It works only when it is open.
“If mind were a six-sided box subject to gravity, the best door to ‘open’ it would be the floor,
so there would be no room for any [irrational superstitious] junk to be left behind!!”
by ScienceSwamy on August 15th, 2009
Islam to me means to apply it on my own self, instead we are doing it all wrong, we tell other but do not follow it our self. The God I know, loves all of the humanity and tell us to show them truth not just tell them.
by Spaitray on August 15th, 2009
We are again wrong when we hate Americans or English or India, The Islam I know of tells us to hate the bad act and not the one doing it. We must love the one doing bad and in result we will try to free him/her of the wrong deed.
by Spaitray on August 15th, 2009
If I'm muslim, I should do something special good that way world could be able to see Islam and accept it if there is truth in it because pure truth once revealed cannot be hidden. Truth is so powerful that it will find its own way the only thing is to reveal it.
by Spaitray on August 15th, 2009
To me, the biggest problem of today is terrorism, extremism, hate. Today is the time that we all, no matter what our religion is, to get together against it. To make peace, once peace is restored, people are now wise enough to find the truth.
by Spaitray on August 15th, 2009
I'm a man of practice not just theory. I know a way to achieve peace. The only thing I need is help of friends. The irony is that those around me don't have time to listen to me, therefore I took the help of internet.
by Spaitray on August 15th, 2009
The beauty of the way of peace I know about is that no one can misuse it because it will only work if we follow it all the way. So I always feel free to tell it to anyone who chooses to listen.
by Spaitray on August 15th, 2009
And I'll appreciate anyone who help me propagate it after convincing his/her own self, I don't like those who blindly follow.
by Spaitray on August 15th, 2009
I like Zam-Zam water with a twist of lime.
by TomFluflu on September 3rd, 2009
reasonable answer, max points
by borasalama on September 7th, 2009
Whatever its purpose, isn't it hypocritical of one book to criticize others for following another books that predated it?!
by ScienceSwamy on October 15th, 2009
'The way of peace'... First you must eliminate all who disagree with your way of peace. After all they are not true musloms... they are infidels... we know what the korun says to do with infidels...
by TomFluflu on October 15th, 2009
@ ScienceSwamy if you read HQ 5:44 you'll find that far from "criticize(ing) others for following another books" it actually urges them to do so. There can't be many followers of other faiths that do that. The verse says "It was We who revealed the Law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who were Muslims (meaning submitted their will to God) by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of God's book (the Torah) and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not my revelations for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what God hath revealed, then they are (no better than) Unbelievers"
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@ TomFlewFly I think you'd better stick to your "Zam-Zam water with a twist of lime", or was that with a twisted mind? :)
by borasalama on October 16th, 2009
Borasalama, HQ 5:44... Hmm, then He (Mohammed, PBUH) made a U-turn in At-Tauba 9:29, "fight the people of Book"!
You should listen to Wafa Sultan on YouTube...!
by ScienceSwamy on October 16th, 2009
the highest authority in Islam is the HQ, and the best explanation for the HQ is the HQ.
by borasalama on October 16th, 2009
A circular argument.
by TomFluflu on October 16th, 2009
how's that "A circular argument"?
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It's a characteristic of good scripture. Just like a good well thought out contract would explain itself. For example if it says "the transaction shall take place at the agreed price" then the best explanation for "transaction" and "agreed price" will be the contract itself, no need to look elsewhere.
by borasalama on October 16th, 2009
The Arabs believed Ishmael is their great ancestor. They believed they are descendants of Abraham through Ishmael (Abraham’s son, whom he had through his bond woman, Hagar).
The Quran teaches that all Nation was given warners (prophets or messengers). Sura 16:35-36 “The worshippers of false gods say: “If Allah had so willed, we should not have worshipped aught but him- we nor our father- nor should we have prescribed prohibitions other than his.” So did those who went before them. But what is the mission of the messenger but to preach the clear message? For we assuredly sent amongst EVERY PEOPLE a messenger (with command), serve Allah, and eschew evil: of the people were some who Allah guided, and some on whom error became inevitably (established). So travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth).”
Sura 35:24 “Verily We have sent thee in truth, as a bearer of glad tidings, and as a warner: and there never was a people, without a warner having lived among them (in the past).”
If you should ask any Muslim if there were any prophets sent to them prior to Muhammad, most will say no, some may say Ishmael. My questions are: where is the prophecies of Ishmael? What did the Arabs do with them?
The Quran Implies that Abraham had a fatherly relationship with Ishmael, and they even built the Kabah together- Sura 2:125-129. The Kabah is a place of worship so Ishmael must have known the services required by the God of Abraham, unless he was a stupid son, who did not seek to acquire his father’s wisdom. WAS THERE A PROPHET SENT TO THE ARABS BEFORE MUHAMMAD?
“And relate the story of Ishmael as mentioned in the Book. He was indeed true to his promises. And he was a messenger, a prophet. He used to enjoin prayer and alms-giving on his people, and was well pleasing to his Lord.” Sura 19:54-55, 58.
Notice the Quran states that Ishmael was a messenger and a prophet to his people (the Arabs).
The Quran also implies that Ishmael was given the Book (the scriptures); the same scriptures that were given to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, David, Solomon, Job, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Zachariah, John, Jesus, Elias, Elisha, and Jonas. “These were the men to whom We gave the Book (the scriptures), and the authority, and prophethood: If these (their descendants) reject them, behold We shall entrust their charge a new people who rejected them not.” Sura 6:84-89.
The Arabs cannot be this new people because their father Ishmael was given Book (the scriptures) and taught his people the way of Allah. The descendants of Ishmael (the Arabs) must have rejected Allah for hundreds of years before Muhammad. This is evident by the lack of knowledge of the where about of Ishmael’s prophecies.
The Quran also teaches of two (2) non-Israelite prophets/messengers: “Behold, their brother Hud said to them: “Will ye not fear (God)? I am to you an apostle worthy of all trust” Sura 26:124-125.
“Behold, their brother Salih said to them: “Will you not fear (God)? I am to you an apostle worthy of all trust” Sura 26:142-143.
I know that Ishmael was not a Prophet, but for the Muslim who does not know this, here is where the Quran starts to get creepy (real scary):
As stated before, the Quran implies that Ishmael was a prophet. A prophet prophesies to a people, therefore Ishmael prophesied to a people. What people? we should ask ourselves. The Quran states that that Ishmael used to enjoin prayer and alms-giving on his people. Sura 19:54-55, 58. Who are Ishmael’s people? If the Arabs are not Ishmael’s people then Deuteronomy 18:18-20 could not be referring to Muhammad.
Now, here is where the Quran went awry:
Muhammad accepted Abraham, Moses, Jesus and other bible prophets, as true prophets of Allah. The question to Muslim scholars is: Why all these prophets did not mention Muhammad if he is such a significant prophet? Quick to the defense of their beloved “prophet” these
by Nabihigh on December 25th, 2009
scholars used Deuteronomy 18:18-20 as one of their weapons against the critiques of Muhammad (without thinking). They claimed that Muhammad is a descendant of Ishmael, thus making him brethren with the Israelites. They claimed the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18-20 is fulfilled in Muhammad. If the Arabs are descendants of Ishmael then the Arabs had a prophet before to Muhammad, and have no excuse for worshiping idols. But the Quran contradicts itself and the claim of these Muslim scholars. Remember the Quran saying, We assuredly sent a messenger amongst EVERY people? The Quran suddenly take a twist:
“By the wise Koran, thou art truly among the envoys on a straight path; the sending down of the all-mighty, the all-wise, that thou mayest warn a people whose FATHERS WERE NEVER WARNED, so they are heedless.” Sura 36:2-6. Is this talking about the Arabs?
Remember the Quran saying, Ishmael is a prophet and is including among the people to whom the BOOK was given?
“But we have NOT given them BOOKS which they could study, NOR SENT MESSENGERS TO THEM BEFORE THEE AS WARNERS.” Sura 34:44
This sudden confusion of Allah does not support the Muslim scholar claim to Muhammad’s fame, as a prophet of the God of Abraham. It contradicts the Scholars claim the Muhammad is a descendant of Ishmael. If Muslims claim this was referring to non-Arabic people then Allah would be a liar. (The disciples and the apostles were sent to all the nations of the earth). John 10:16 - “And I have sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed to my voice. So there shall be one flock, and one shepherd.” Matthew 28:18, 19 - “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations.”
Muhammad knew that there were Arabs who would not believe his lies so he wrote: “Or do they say, “He forged it”? Nay, it is the truth from the Lord, that thou mayest admonish A PEOPLE WHOM NO WARNER HAS COME BEFORE THEE: in order that they may receive guidance.” Sura 32:3.
CONCLUSION: Ishmael, the father of the Arabs, was a prophet who was given the same book that was given to Moses. He taught his people to pray and give alms, but the fathers of the Arabs were never warned because they did not have a warner before Muhammad. This does not make sense.
Gabriel did not speak with Muhammad.
Muhammad is not a true prophet.
Allah is not the same god as the God of Moses and Jesus
Peace and love,
Nabihigh.
by Nabihigh on December 25th, 2009