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Our Homeowners association sends all mailings and voter ballots in the first name on the account, mainly the male or husband. I think it's sexist and disciminatory but do we have legal grounds to make them change this practice?

By homeowner Asked Jun 23 2009 6:00AM
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by Im Alec on Jun 23, 2009 at 6:40 am Permalink

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It seems reasonable for them to send it to the first name on the account - any other decision is almost certainly more discriminatory. But it seems reasonable for you to decide which name goes first.
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Avatar homeowner Jun, 23 2009 at 07:18 AM
The property management company that actually sends out the mailings says that the way their data base works, we cannot change it to my name or use both names. Since I am the one on the committee and the one who actually pays the HOA dues and votes I think I should at least have name recognition.
Avatar Im Alec Jun, 23 2009 at 08:16 AM
I agree: I think they have a rotten database. I suggest that you (both) legally change your names, so that the person on their database no longer exists. What are they going to do now? Do they not have a statutory liability to correct databases which contain faulty personal data? You are probably in the US, but in the UK I could make a case that they are required to correct the database by the Data Protection Act, which can impose serious fines (£1000 per day) if they do not reasonably conform.

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by scubaduba on Jun 23, 2009 at 6:06 am Permalink

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Probably only if the house is not titled in your husband's name. When I was on our HOA board (this happened before I was on the board, but it was my board that had to deal with the law suit), we were sued because we had been sending the mailings to the husband in the house regarding an empty lot the family owned, however,the lot was in his wife's name, so technically, she never received notification.

I feel the same way when receiving mail from my university alumni association. It is always addressed to Mr. and Mrs. John Doe. I was the one who went to Graduate school there, so I was there longer, but they can't even bother to put my name on the mailing. Also, when they call they ask for Mrs. Doe. My name is Smith-Doe, so I tell them since I have asked on multiple occasions for them to change it to my proper name, and they don't bother to do so, then I can't be bothered to send them any money.
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Avatar homeowner Jun, 23 2009 at 07:24 AM
Both names are on the deed and registered with the HOA. They don't even have the consideration to put "Mr. and Mrs. John Doe"....They just plainly put "John Doe". That means that when I go to vote on issues with the HOA, I am voting by proxy or under my husbands name. I have requested they change this, both through the property management company and the HOA board even just to my name instead of my husbands but they say it is a data base problem.
Avatar scubaduba Jun, 23 2009 at 06:08 PM
If you have requested that it be changed, you may be able to take legal action, however, you have to decide if it is worth it to you to spend the money on that issue. Data bases can be changed, so that's a lame excuse.

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by dumdum on Jun 23, 2009 at 6:07 am Permalink

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Doubt it. Another option might be to just make a request and my other thought would be who in the heck cares - but I guess you have answered that. Myself - I try to pick my battles. Good luck to you.
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Avatar homeowner Jun, 23 2009 at 07:21 AM
I have made the request many times to the property management company that works for the HOA. I have done this verbally, by e-mail and by certified mail. Many times I didn't even receive a reponse to my request. Finally, I was told that the labels they use won't print both names. This makes me irritated specifically when it comes to voting issues and the ballots only have my husbands name.
Avatar dumdum Jun, 23 2009 at 11:04 AM
We each have to decide what is of important to us. If this is an issue that you feel a passion about I would encourage you to spend the effort and time towards it as you wish. As I mentioned to me there are other concerns but I understand that others see things differently and I applaud those those that pursue their cause. As to both names cannot be printed with the labels that are being used I have no doubt that is a load of bunk -either the software needs to be changed or someone needs to put forth the effort to change the program. Now not responding to your requests and when they do with a lame excuse; to me that is inexcusable. There are real jerks in this world.

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by Twisted Taco on Jun 23, 2009 at 6:02 am Permalink

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Sure, go ahead and sue them. Next time, you may get the mailing and ballots in your name...and the increased bill to pay for the legal fees!
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Avatar homeowner Jun, 23 2009 at 07:26 AM
If I take legal action I would take it primarily against the property management company hired to work for the HOA. They are the ones that send out the mailings and won't change it to both names or else just to my name.


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