by themightythor on February 25th, 2007

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Do you think Bush really won the 2000 election?

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by VOD on February 26th, 2007
Bush stole both elections. he never won anything. he takes, without regard for anyone else.
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by anonymous on February 25th, 2007
no i dont
if you think he did
watch farenheit 911
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- Farenheit 911 - lies and damned lies
  
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  by Someguy on March 12th, 2007
- There may be some exaggerations, but its not all lies. As someone from PB County (and who's mother was one of those poor souls on tv each night looking at hanging chads through a magnifying glass) I can tell you there was a LOT of shadiness surrounding that whole situation.
  
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  by Mrs.mezzo is a Wagnerian soprano on April 20th, 2007
- the crap that went on in florida in 2000 went on in ohio and new mexico and nevada -- that is the sham - Bush lost New Mexico by about 700 votes and he did not argue it - there was a ton of illegals voting in NM - that election could have gone either way. - You're never going to accurately count millions of anything without discrepency - those that think you can are on the losing side of the count
  
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  by Someguy on April 20th, 2007
- Anything Moore does is completely fraudulent.
  
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  by Will on June 29th, 2007
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by Subject Matter Expert on February 25th, 2007
NO
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by bootlace on February 26th, 2007
I am a little confused by the answers to this question - the recount showed that Bush did actually lose the election! How could anyone still say he won?

He is the president, but he is not the president because he won the election, he is the president because he took advantage of a confused situation.
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- He most certainly did win the popular vote. People believe what they want to believe without a bit of research into the truth, and then rate people down who speak it. Points +
  
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  by gone on February 26th, 2007
- the exact opposite is true. Every legal recount in Florida shows that he won that election. With that, he won the electoral college vote. Who cares about the popular vote.
  
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  by Someguy on March 12th, 2007
- I care about the popular vote.
  
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  by Brew Guy wishes he was icefishing... on April 20th, 2007
- let Gore win the popular vote. America is not a Democracy.
  
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  by Someguy on April 20th, 2007
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by Anonymous on February 26th, 2007
Yes, indisputably, he did win the election.

It got down to one state — Florida — where the vote was very close. The initial count had Bush ahead by a slight margin. The Sore/Loserman team demanded every possible different way of recounting the ballots (Remember all the nonsense about “hanging chads” and “pregnant chads” and such?) and every way they counted them, Bush was still slightly ahead.

There are those who point out that Gore was apparently ahead in the popular vote, but there are a few things that need to be stated about that.

First of all, the popular vote isn't how we elect a president. I can understand the point of view that argues that it should be, but it isn't.

As counted, the popular vote was effectively a tie. The slight lead by Algore was well within the expected margin of error. If you think the recounts in Florida were a circus, imagine the recounts that would have had to take place to establish a solid result for the popular vote. We would probably still — six years later — not have been able to establish a solid result. This gets me into the next point…

I would say that the 2000 election demonstrates why the Electoral College system is more desirable than a straight vote. In this instance, it worked exactly as it was supposed to, turning what would have been a tie, into a meaningful result.

And finally, because the popular vote isn't what matters, and because Gore had already solidly won California, the absentee votes from California were not counted and included in the popular vote statistics. Historically, absentee votes have always tended to be significantly more conservative than non-absentee votes. If the California absentee ballots had been counted, it is likely that they would have put Bush ahead in the popular vote.
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- Good points on everything except your second-to-last paragraph. There shouldn't be any margin of error whatsoever. Instead of punching holes, we should be doing something else, perhaps writing your choice. If some say that even the illterate should be able to vote, then I suppose we're done for.
  
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  by Aristocles on February 26th, 2007
- Idealistically, Aristocles, I'd agree with you. We'd like our election system to be perfect, so that there's no margin of error at all. If, out of hundreds of millions of votes, one candidate beats the other by one vote, we'd like to be able to trust that result. The fact is, we do not have the capability of creating a system that will work on that scale, with no error at all. There will be some errors introduced into any voting system that operates on such a scale; we need to be able to estimate what the margin of error is, and we need to know that a result is outside of that margin in order to trust it.
  
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  by Anonymous on February 26th, 2007
- Point taken.
  
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  by Aristocles on February 26th, 2007
- Aristocles, you suggested having the ballots such that the voters write in the name of the candidate for whom they wish to vote as a way to eliminate error. As a teacher who has to wade through answers written by students, let me assure you that that would not eliminate errors. The legibility of hand writing varies from person to person. Sometimes it can be very difficult to tell what someone has written. This problem can be compounded if two of the candidates have similar names. So, no, hand written ballots will not eliminate errors. They would just create other sources of error.
  
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  by Glenn Blaylock on June 1st, 2007
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by unknown on February 25th, 2007
He really acted like the president. He really moved into the White House. People really treated him like he won. So, I think he really won.
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- Someone in denial of reality stopped by. Have six to point you back up. If you'd like to return the favor, thanks...6
  
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  by Mirage V2.0 AWOL on February 25th, 2007
- Yeah, he really presidented hard.
  
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  by Mrs.mezzo is a Wagnerian soprano on April 20th, 2007
- Thanks Mirage @ Miss. I didn't say he did a stand up job I said that I believe that he is indeed the pres.
  
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  by unknown on April 20th, 2007
- I didn't say I thought he wasn't the president.
  
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  by Mrs.mezzo is a Wagnerian soprano on April 20th, 2007
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by Nice on February 26th, 2007
Yes, get over it.
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- ok ok he did not.. happy?
  
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  by Nice on February 26th, 2007
- I also got a - for saying yes, plus a comment telling me to read between the lines which I found annoying, so points for you.
  
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  by Dog_Star on March 12th, 2007
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by Dog_Star on February 25th, 2007
He is the President of the United States of America, its obvious Bush won.
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- OH there is often so much more than meets the eye...think my friend. Read between the lines. History will make sure and make clear that he did not.
  
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  by Anonymous on February 26th, 2007
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by Spunts.answered 67 questions in 1 hour. on February 25th, 2007
yes he did.
consider this,al gore lost his home state of tennesse.
what does that tell you of someone who wants to be the president of u.s.a.?
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- Algore is a lunatic
  
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  by Will on June 29th, 2007
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by Jade on April 20th, 2007
It's 2007..hasn't that particular horse been beaten to death already? Whether he did or whether he didn't, his time is almost up.
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by Miss. Tandra on April 20th, 2007
-yes
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by Jannes on April 20th, 2007
YES and just to add to Bob Blaylock’s great and very educational response; why would we want our President to be elected by only 3 or 4 coastal states?
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- Cause they're smarter that the ones in the middle? J/K!
  
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  by Mrs.mezzo is a Wagnerian soprano on April 20th, 2007
- Inside is where Real America is!
  Show me the Values in the big Coastal Cities, specially ones like San Fransico, do they represent the Real America?
  
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  by Jannes on April 20th, 2007
- Good point, after all middle America did give us Fred Phelps.
  
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  by Mrs.mezzo is a Wagnerian soprano on April 20th, 2007
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by RFlagg on March 10th, 2007
No.

If he had won the election, he wouldn't have had to be appointed by the supreme court.
He is not the president elect, he was not chosen by the people, he was appointed to the position.
If he had won, then they would have been able to count up the votes and say "He got the most.", but apparently, they couldn't do that.
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by Mr. Chairman on March 10th, 2007
Yes. The questions of ballots only came from strongholds of the oppiside party. Plus the questions were bizarre and most frivolus. Look up historical record of the newspapers at the time.
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by Mirage V2.0 AWOL on February 25th, 2007
To the victor go the spoils.
And poor George has sure had his presidency "spoiled."

BTW: He's cashing the President's paycheck, must have had the right ID with him.
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- Good answer, how true.
  
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  by Dog_Star on February 25th, 2007
- Good answer and here is your return.
  
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  by unknown on April 20th, 2007
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by Jannes on April 20th, 2007
I am really confused here, are most of you joking or just plain ignorant and stupid?
There aren’t any honest doubts as to the validity of the elections; the Supreme Court did not give the election to GW.
Bush won every single count of the Florida votes and the POPULAR VOTE DOES MATTER as it directly affects the results of the Electoral College; that ultimately decide who the President Elect is.
If Al Gore had won I would not had been such a sore looser, though I don’t like him I respect the Office and position of the President and he would had been my president just like Clinton was and GW is now.
This fight and hate in between parties is a political phenomenon that is NOT healthy to America and the only ones laughing are the Canadians, French and Radial Moslem countries, among other countries that are far less perfect than the USA but are jealous of this greatest country on earth!
GOD BLESS THE USA and all of our Presidents!
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by DavidHume on March 10th, 2007
No, he stole the election, it is common knowledge. He did win the 2004 election though.
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by Will on June 29th, 2007
Like it or not he won them both. The bigger question would be did JFK win.
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by peterpam on June 1st, 2007
He does and nobody is going to snatch victory from him.
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by Brian I on June 1st, 2007
If the president of the mightiest country on earth is in office for any reason other than winning we all have problems.
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by denise on April 20th, 2007
No, ET did
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- Would have been the best choice!
  
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  by Will on June 29th, 2007
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by faceshutup on April 20th, 2007
Didn't the Supreme Court rule that Bush won? I mean, come on guys, lets let this go, hes gonna be out of office soon enough anyways. I hope you are all looking forward to Barak Obamba, Lord knows i am. (not sarcasm)
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- OH please...NO not Obama. I'd take Hilary over him and I'm a Republican. haha
  
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  by NightOwl on June 1st, 2007
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by jin jang on April 20th, 2007
He did not,and if people stand by and allow this sort of thing to happen without a public outcry,what is voting about.They should banish electoral votes and concentrate on the public vote.So much for the Republic.
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by Tamilze on April 20th, 2007
Since he's almost out of here, as far as I'm concerned he did. He's already served his time and we can't go back and change it, so it really doesn't matter.
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by Penny The Wise on June 29th, 2007
No. I don't. Isn't it nice having a brother in the state you're dependant on for the election? Gee, how coincidental.
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by Cannabis its just a plant on June 1st, 2007
NO wild conspiracy theory deal thing, they are after us...

Yes he won, an interesting question would be what would Al Gore have done if elected?
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- Had Algore won we wouldn't be here now.
  
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  by Will on June 29th, 2007
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by FreeRadical Jetpacking for Nelson on June 1st, 2007
Well, I certainly think he purchased it.
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