• Yes, unfortunately parents teach thier children thier beliefs and it shouldn't be considered abuse even if you don't agree with thier beliefs or methods. I would assume that they believe they are doing the right thing and it's hard to convince them otherwise. All children should be taught to make thier own opinions from many sources, so they can form thier own ideals.
  • Yes, I felt the exact same way after seeing that movie. I found it disturbing.
  • unfortunatelly screwing a kids head up is only abuse if its emotionally harmful, plenty of kids get instilled with misconception, misinformation and are encouraged to be followers; a tradition as old as time.
  • OMG.... that movie was like a horror show to me!
  • Yeah. That's a documentary. One can only hope that later on when they become adults they will see the movie and realize what was done to them.
  • No, because unfortunately, their parents probably sent them to that camp. And probably, the parents believe it too. I think it is unfair, but parents have a right to raise their children as they see fit without emotionally and physically abusing them or neglecting them. I don't think that counts as emotional abuse or physical abuse.
  • That's terrible. Christians are an abomination to this country. Why do they always feel the need to cram their worthless scriptures down innocent people's throats? Our founding fathers would be appalled.
    • pugwashjw65
      Then why this scripture? Matthew 28: 19,20 Jesus asked us to tell people...but whether they listen or not is up to the people...
  • The part that frightened me about this movie was the part about the political machinery and effort motivated by this philosophy that threatens to erode the separation between Church and State in this country. The separation of church and state is what guarantees religious freedom and this is the whole reason our forefathers came here in the first place - to enjoy freedom of religion. If these people want to speak in tongues and prostelitize to others, thats their right, but this is NOT a Christian country, it is a FREE country and that is an important thing for every American to remember and fight to preserve.
  • Yes, I saw that! It may not be child abuse, but it's just darn right stupid enough to make it illegal.
  • Ive just seen a youtube on it, looks pretty damn scary.
  • +5. Wow, I did not see the show so I cannot comment on this particular camp. But a camp were young people are taught about the love of God, where abstaining from sex out of marriage and banning the use of drugs and drinks and smoking. Oh, my, what an awful place, how can our children be abused by wearing decent clothes, respecting their parents and obeying the laws. Yes it is abuse, no wait, it is abuse not to send them.
  • Yes. Yes. More to the YES.
  • It's certainly revisionist history. Highlights from this film:
  • I have seen this. It is alarming and sickening. Funny that people are so alarmed by Muslim children in madrassas being radicalized but think this crap is just dandy. Extremism in the name of any religion is scary and wrong. I feel really sorry for those kids.
    • pugwashjw65
      Non- extremism is doing Catholics sitting in pews...and never questioning what is coming from the pulpit.
  • There is no wrong in teaching about Jesus. He was a loving man who befriended and blessed the outcasts of society. As far as the tactics used at this camp to convey the grace ( unmerited favor )of God , yes I believe it was too severe. You can't expect to love God if you are terrified of Him. But, child abuse? Let's not get to carried away.
  • After reading these answers, I'm going to see if this is available to watch online or clips from it. What I've read is fucked up.
    • Jewels Vern
      The word of God always causes division. It divides believers from unbelievers, and it divides the obedient from the rebellious.
    • pugwashjw65
      Even Jesus said he came as a ' sword'...(Matthew 10:34) Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword. Cutting up families and groups...those who believed him and those who did not.
  • I do not agree with that because doing such a thing could and eventually would result in the violation of many freedoms. Most parents do this because they have also been indoctrinated.
  • Consider the source.
  • Yes. Because the kids are going to be in for a helluva surprise when their beliefs are shown to be false.
  • If you truly believe child abuse is happening then you have a moral responsibility to contact the authorities. I know nothing of what happens in the real "Jesus Camp" or the show. But I do know that you can edit hours and hours of recordings into a one or two hour "documentary" to show just about anything you want, good or bad. You don't really believe that reality TV is reality do you? With love in Christ.
  • 6-30-2017 If you look for bad intent, you are going to find it, no matter what. You start off assuming this is a "frightening show" where they practice "brainwashing", so that is what you see. In fact, a show is frightening only if you choose to be frightened, and brainwashing is required in the USA, where every person is required by law to attend school for twelve years where they are forced to learn political slogans and meaningless baloney that flatters the current regime. Speaking in tongues is a part of the Christian beliefs, and I grant that it can be grossly misinterpreted by people who know nothing of the scriptures. (And most people know nothing of the scriptures, including the ministers.) Your whine is about the same as "OMG, I almost stepped on a crack!" Read a chapter of Proverbs every day. Proverbs has 31 chapters so you can keep your place by just looking at a calendar. There is no religion or nothing in Proverbs and you don't have to believe anything. Just read to find wisdom. When you are comfortable with that, then read the bible from Romans to 2 Thessalonians over and over until you start to remember what it says. That is the part that applies to Christians.
    • Jewels Vern
      As for "child abuse", every parent has a responsibility to teach his children what he knows about living. There is no requirement that what he knows should agree with what you know.
  • "speaking in tongues" was a god given gift to enable the disciples to spread the ' good news' to people from other countries, who had a different language... It was not the babbling claimed by modern ' preachers; It simply does not happen these days. Its the ability to speak and understand another language without formal language training... A miracle. .(1 Corinthians 13:8) Love never fails. But if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away with. (Acts 2:4-6) and they all became filled with holy spirit and started to speak in different languages, just as the spirit enabled them to speak. 5 At that time devout Jews from every nation under heaven were staying in Jerusalem. 6 So when this sound occurred, a crowd gathered and was bewildered, because each one heard them speaking in his own language.
    • Jewels Vern
      Pug, you really need to read the bible and stop making up stuff. The bible says they SPOKE other languages, not that they UNDERSTOOD them. And they were not preaching, they were praising God. And it is not a gift, it is a manifestation of the holy spirit.
    • pugwashjw65
      Truy reading the cited scripture...if they spoke the language of their audience, they would also have had to understand what they were preaching...their thought processes would be the same but the words coming out were of a language understood by the audience...from all was the audience getting the message...
  • YES... They are teaching traditions of men...and not what Jesus asked... (Matthew 15:3) In reply he said to them:

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