California: Are voters fed up with being asked to bail out the failed policies of their state leaders?What are your thoughts re solutions?

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• I agree and I think we're going to see some recalls started too. I'd like to empty the whole legislature and exec office and start fresh. For a long time now, the choice at the voting booth has been between worse and more worse.
  
  Our elected officials spend more time protecting their own power and influence than doing their jobs.

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  by Scifisuz on May 20th, 2009

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  But here's the problem - the State is so diverse and so polarized that all we do is argue and finger point rather than develop cooperative consensus.
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  Until each of the groups starts cooperating and taking ownership for decisions I just don't see anything changing for our beloved state.
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  For example I despise Barbara Boxer.
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  But Northern California and the Entertainment Industry Oligarchy keeps sending this incompetent burned out hippy back to the US Senate again, again, and again.
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  I didn't vote for her - I never have but I can point fingers at Boxer and blame her for MY California not being well represented in the Senate.
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  That's just one of many examples I could cite.

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  by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on May 20th, 2009

• I don't like Boxer either - and lots more. But I see it differently. Across the Board, all the elected reps refuse to cut spending, cut programs, cut useless agencies, worthless commissions, obsolete projects. They keep spending, keep taxing (we have the highest taxes and the highest population per capita in the nation) and never even trim when mass surgery is what is needed. This is Dems, GOP, every party, every diverse subgroup.
  
  I think this latest rejection re props a thru e - is the electorate sending a strong message to the politicians - NO MORE BUSINESS AS USUAL.

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  by Scifisuz on May 20th, 2009

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  I agree with your assessment.
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  A big part of the problem is that the people of the State seem to want more and more State Services BUT want someone else to pay for it.
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  If make that state smaller Northern California can't blame the "idiots" in L.A. while trying to steal their money, Southern California can't blame the "morons" in San Francisco while stealing their water, and Central California can't blame all of them while stealing their infrastructure.
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  "We have met the enemy and it is us!"

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  by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on May 20th, 2009

• I can't speak for everyone but I'm willing to cut many programs. I can give you a list of state agencies that could be eliminated tomorrow and no one would notice for a year...except the unions and the staff. And that's the point after all.

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  by Scifisuz on May 20th, 2009

• Wow guys. You are bringing it all in. Maybe there needs to be two States where there is now one. Very interesting.

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  by Rollie on May 20th, 2009

• >I can't speak for everyone but I'm willing to cut many programs. I can give you a list of state agencies that could be eliminated tomorrow and no one would notice for a year...except the unions and the staff. And that's the point after all<
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  Pretty much says it for me too!
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  And Rollie, I can't speak for everyone but I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it any more!
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  ;-)

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  by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on May 20th, 2009

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• Yes, I've even heard thirds (separating out Central/Fresno - Farmers - whose needs are completely diff than Sac/SF vs Los Angeles...

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  by Scifisuz on May 20th, 2009

• Splitting into Thirds makes sense too. I can see that.
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  IMO, the state is just too darn big and too diverse to be well managed by anyone or anything.
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  The time has come.

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  by Mister IT is trying to Liahona outta here on May 20th, 2009

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